>>2867254
Get a mesh tent and an overhead tarp instead. It'll be way more comfortable and dual-purpose.

>>2867254
Just use a mosquito net then if its good weather. Why would you need more if you already dont want a full tent?

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>1000 lbs tent
Ishiggydiggy

I really like bivvy bags. I've used the woodland USGI one pretty extensively, and got to try out the Kelty Varicom(?) when that was in development. I like the Kelty better. It's way easier to use and set up than a tent, but lacks any comfiness. What ended up working best for me was bivvy for my sleeping bag, and then set up a poncho in a ranger diamond for my backpack/gear/whatever else. I still use the bivvy a lot, especially when kayak camping, just because I don't have the space/time/energy to set up a full tent. Bivvy bags also work well in situations where things are damp (inside buildings that leak, under trees, under a tarp) where you aren't getting rained on, but will get damp. Would definitely recommend a bug net, but if you're able, I'd recommend a bigger bug net, like the one from Coughlan's. I've found that if bugs are going to annoy me while sleeping, they'll also annoy me when awake, and I would like to have an area where there are no bugs period.

>>2867257
I always slept better in a tent than with a tarp (have used poncho shelters as well as an 8'x10' aquaquest tarp), and would rather have an enclosed space to sleep. Rain can still in at an angle

>>2867259
wind

>>2867254
idk why not get a tent they are quite incredible nowadays unless you just want to be some contrarian performative larper

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>>2867261
>8'x10' aquaquest tarp
That's a great tarp. Which weight did you get?
You can peg the tarp right into the ground over a mesh tent, and hang your rainshell up on one end as a 'door'. That will give it much, but not total, protection. Anyways, I know what you mean about personal preference.

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>>2867272
I think it's the medium weight one. It seems more durable than the ponchos I mentioned. I like the idea of hanging a rainshell over one end to serve as a "door".

The aquaquest is a great size for most things. It comfortably sleeps me and my gear, or me and one other person. It's also super useful for setting up a sun shade if you're going to be in one spot for a bit. The poncho can do all of these things, and doubles as a shell/pack cover, but it's also too small to do most things really well.

picrel is a few different setups with the aquaquest. We expected rain on the one with the bivvy and didn't get any, and I woke up wet in the one without. Is that your setup? It looks really comfy. Also cool that you can sit up in it, unlike in a bivvy.

>>2867261
any online shop link for those?

>>2867315
https://ebay.us/m/giqlVG

I think this is the one I have. Part of the feedback we gave is that the single rib over the face doesn't keep it off your face (it just falls over), looks like Kelty updated this to add 2 ribs). Another issue was that it doesn't really breathe that well, so you have to leave it a little unzipped (and therefore not totally waterproof, which is why it's better under a tree or something). It was cool to get for free, but desu i'd just go with a USGI bivvy, you could even cut your own fiberglass rod and bend that in the inside of the bivvy to get it off your face.

Crazy how this board has been around so long and it’s still just garbage newb shit like this.

You know why bivvy bags aren’t more popular? Because they fucking suck; condensation problems and lack of utility for no real benefits.

borah makes a highly breathable splash resistant bivy with custom sizing , zipper length, and hoods (get the more enclosed one for warmth). very fair price when i bought mine 4 years ago. perfect for fair weather when i want to keep my sleeping gear clean , and i pair it with a tarp or smd gate wood cape for rain.

>>2867656
how would you sleep in a cemetery (unironically speaking)

While we're on the topic of sleeping bags, why hasn't anyone made an actual waterproof sleeping bag?
I mean something you can stand in a lake with

>>2867263
Pick better campsites. Or get a better sleeping bag. Wind can worse inside something like a bivy anyway because you hear WHACKWHACKWHACK of plastic all night

>>2867781
They exist and generally suck because of condensation issues. Also, that’s what a bivvy bag is. They’re very, very useful-case specific. Like, any other viable option is better.

>>2867272
>>2867276
I love windbreaks so goddamn much

I'd love to see if anyone set one up meant to protect a whole portion of camp. Say, tent guarded and then another one secured to trees 10ft away

>>2867806
>that’s what a bivvy bag is
It definitely isn't
I said waterproof sleeping bag, not water resistant cover

>>2867835
You don’t know what a bivy bag is. They do not have hoops no matter what marketing gimmick you see. They are not water resistant. You buy the sack so you can use your existing bag (which is used in many conditions where a bivouac sack isn’t appropriate). If the bivy is damaged or can be replaced more easily and cheaply. Dry-cleaning chemicals can destroy waterproof layers.

Why am I expanding this? You’re allergic to google, I guess.

>>2867254
>>2867261
Imagine being stuck in rain in one of those coffins.
For just 300g more you can have a tent.

>>2867783
Bivvies are for when the camp site selection sucks, usually because you're above treeline and on rocks. In those situations you bring earplugs regardless of your shelter choice.

>>2868369
They have to imagine it, because it’s not something they’ll ever experience. A severe lack of utility is another reason to not buy the larpsack.

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>>2867259
stealthcamping is a thing thoughbeit

>>2868369
for just 300g less you can put a hammock up, and sleep off the ground like a real human