>>2869309
It does work and it stays working for at least 5 washes. I've had ticks explode on my legs after touching the sock almost a year after treatment. Once it's dry you can wear and wash the clothes normally.

Now let me ask you something. Is anything you typed real? Have you ever found a single tick on yourself? Because I haven't been bitten by a tick since I was a child and feel maybe 2 a year on average crawling on me then take care of them. Do you really just find them randomly in your car all the time or are you making shit up because you saw a youtube video?

>>2869313
No I'm being serious... a few years ago I was walking on some downed cat tail reeds and every step I took like dozens of nymphs scattered away from my foot it was like a horror movie.
The other day I was kneeling down on just regular length grass and I found seven ticks on me when I got back to my car and then when I got home I found three more in my sweater.

I do wildlife photography, and I get into the thick of it, and recently they've become a real problem.

The stuff makes ticks explode?

>>2869315
Young ones yeah. By the time you roll your pants leg up to pick them off they are dead with their guts spilled out. You get absolutely covered with ticks all the time due to being a working wildlife photographer and just now started wondering about permethrin and instead of buying a 10 dollar bottle to test out you decided to go to 4chan?

>>2869318
When i was a kid they weren't an issue, when I was a teen and early twenties, they weren't a problem, my late twenties they started to be noticed, and I just used a more concentrated deet solution.

It has only been within the last I'd say five years they have become a big problem, so I need to start looking at alternatives to deet. Interesting how the stuff makes them explode.

>>2869313
Not them but after the first trip I went on where ticks were present (we only have them in the East side of the state), my buddies car was crawling with the fuckers. I also had some crawl out of my laundry bin after I got home. Thankfully, none of us got bit, but I think it was mainly from our long clothing and constant checks.

>>2869309
use jungle juice, it's the only thing that makes Alaska tolerable in mosquito season.

>>2869309
It'll give ya cancer.

>>2869487
How?

>>2869644
by being carcinogenic

>>2869645
Everything is carcinogenic... we living as creatures that consume oxygen are literally burning to death. The point that needs to be made is, what in this spray speeds up or causes cancer?

>>2869313
>>2869313
If you live/work/recreate in places with real bad ticks, they absolutely will get in your car. "Truck ticks" are what me and my coworkers call them. I rarely get actually bit, but I'll usually find one or two a day crawling on me after I've been out, and they'll sometimes just end up in weird places you wouldn't expect because they've been riding around on your pants or whatever. I found one on the side of the laundry hamper earlier today. Probably from one of my work pants earlier this week.

Unrelated but maybe someone here could give me advice
Is picaridin better than deet to keep away black flies and other nuisance flying insects? Or can you use both at once?

>>2869309
I tried drinking this stuff because I thought it would make my sweat naturally bug repellant, since one time I was really sick took some of my bro's old antibiotics which cured me but changed my sweat to be orange colored for a few days. Anyways drinking this stuff made me really fucked up I was nauseous throwing up muscle cramping, even fever a bit I think. to be honest I would have taken myself to hospital if i had health insurance at the time but i didn't and luckily it cleared out of my system on its own. All in all I wouldn't recommend permethrin because of that although i do feel them skeeters came to me less for the next few weeks

>>2869335
>>2869653
you guys are misidentifying bed bugs as ticks

>>2869648
>muh oxygen is killing us
you steal that from a t-shit you saw at hot topic, you emo 14 yearold?

its not "whats in it", it fucking IS it, its the chemical itself and the other constituents its made of
i don't really know how else to explain this to you, other than the fact it damages your DNA at a rate that is accepted to be dangerous enough to be classified as "carcinogenic"

now, i know what your mongoloid fingers are gonna type next: bbuuttt anonnn!!!! h-howw does it do dat in duh fwirst pwace?????
answer: because we aren't fucking made to guzzle it in nature. you see any gorillas and chimps using it? no, you don't. because its not natural, and while sure, not all unnatural things are carcinogenic nor are all natural things free of being carcinogens either, you're still not gonna see me drinking hydrazine or breathing radon for fun

>>2869309
Be careful if you have kitties- the ONLY reason I don't use permethrin is it's HIGHLY toxic to domestic cats. Shuts their kidneys off like a light switch or something like that

>>2869792
Charred meat is also carcinogenic. Did you know that anon? Will I get stomach cancer for eating too much jerk chicken?

How is spraying a small amount of this stuff on your clothes going to give you cancer? Which type of cancer? As stated in the OP, does sweating in the clothes sprayed with the stuff cause any negative outcomes?

>>2869801
From what I've read cats livers lack the ability to excrete the proper enzymes to break down one of the chemical compounds and it just cycles in their bodies until they either vomit it up or pass it out which causes havoc on their stomachs and kidneys.

>>2869804
>Will I get stomach cancer for eating too much jerk chicken?
unironically yes, and i'm not even being a hypochondriac by saying that

at the end of the day, you can't argue it's carcinogenic qualities away
spraying it on your clothes raises the risk of cancer, its not a high risk, yet its still a risk
if you don't mind your skin absorbing it through prolonged contact & perhaps giving you melanoma or whatever, then spray away
and honestly, you probably have a higher chance of getting cancer from an insect bite

if i didn't have cats myself, i'd be using it too, so don't think i'm against its usage

>>2869792
you're pretening to be smart, but you're the one lacking nuance. It's considered a likely carcinogen via ingestion at relatively high volumes. There's not sufficient data that suggests a very high likelihood to cause cancer in humans from trace topical exposure via clothing.

>>2869309
>Permethrin
>Anyone have experience using this stuff?
>>2869309
yes
>Does it actually work
fabulously
>can I get sweaty in the clothes treated with it
you won't notice it other than the smell
>how long does it last on clothes.
6month up to 2years
and a few washes, maybe 5-10 max

>Any other advice will be appreciated.
if you're in the EU
you will only get the lower concentrations stuff and you'll need more bottles aka more expensive,
they limited used (in 2024 I think) pretty severely

permethrin is a bitch to the environment
so kinda right to regulate but still

>>2869322
Same. I remember back in the 90s I'd go play in the woods all the time. I'd cross the creek on a dead fallen over tree bridge. Lay in the grass. All that kind of shit and never once got tick.
Only time I'd see a tick is if they were on a friend's dog.

>>2869322
>has only been within the last I'd say five years they have become a big problem
>>2869837
>90s
>never once got tick
yeah that's because of climate change

milder winters and longer summers means their population is lot bigger and more mobile
especially for the varieties that carry lyme and FSME

in the EU (where the data is very good)
you can literally see the "tick belt" moving northwards every year since like 2015
the EU made a taskforce a few years ago about this, but there's little you can do, except vaccination campaigns for FSME

>>2869931
the US literally airdrops ticks around it's countryside, its not even a theory, they just do that
it has nothing to do with climate change, just the shitty decisions of the ruling class

>>2869932
>the ticks, they're coming from the sky!
Oh?
>yea, the aliens flying around in their spaceships hiding in the clouds with their cloaking devices.
In the clouds?
>yea the clouds that were seeded by the governments chemtrail program funded by George soros and Bill gates!
>It's all part of a bigger plan!!

You idiots will do anything but address climate change for what it is and what it's doing to our planet.

>>2869937
>These last 2 years have had mild wet winters! It's the climate change!

The only constant in this world is that it's constantly changing.

>>2869932
does the US also drop them in the EU or Asia?
because tick populations exploded everywhere

not sure why you deny the climate change influence
you can literally confirm all variables yourself...
just read a fucking thermometer outdoors and you'd know that summers get hotter and longer and winters milder
then take a few ticks and see yourself how they behave in today's climate vs that of 20y ago
>faster reproduction cycles
>longer active (mobile) season
>more winter survival
>less drying out
an average temp increase of 1°C (1.8°F) means tick population 10x within 5y, with mild winters even more

take your meds schizo

>>2869939
Yes and we need to learn to actually work around it and with it. Climate change has collapsed entire civilizations, so why deny that it's happening?

>>2869940
What perplexed me this year where I live is that we had a pretty had, cold winter. And our last frost was like may 18th, very late. Yet the ticks are still out of control this year. The mosquitoes got hit hard, haven't even been bit once yet.

>>2869943
>Climate change has collapsed entire civilizations, so why deny that it's happening?
So "climate change" is a thing that has been ongoing how long in your mind?

>>2869944
Since forever. But this current saga or earths changing climate has been in overdrive because of human activity. It's supposed to be a slow long drawn out process.

>>2869947
Is it? Why is that the supposed way? Have you ever been to the grand fucking canyon?

>>2869949
Yes I have. Hiked right down to the bottom and back up again. Never agin.

But what does that have to do with climate change? If you brought up ice core samples, then we can talk. Or perhaps the Sahara desert.

>>2869951
So you hiked down to 2 billion year old rock and never wondered about how much flooding it took to carve that shit out even though you knew damn well in your mind just how far 5 thousand feet of elevation is? But you thought "nah, couldn't be me."

Nigger you are an idiot.

>>2869952
The grand canyon is on multiple fault lines anon... it wasn't just the river systems that carved it out. Stop watching Graham Hancock.

>>2869931
>yeah that's because of climate change
And also because of shit-tier land management.

Ticks LOVE the young deciduous forests that are everywhere because the entire floor is leaf litter that keeps them cool and damp and the goddamn leaf litter also smothers out forbs and shrubs and the immature trees are poor habitat for critters. In mature forests you have less leaf litter and more forbs and shrubs as well as much better habitat for the birds and small mammals that eat loads of ticks both in the trees and on the ground. In healthy grasslands you have forbs and shrubs and graminoids that provide food and shelter for things that also eat ticks and the dead material on the ground in these places is much less friendly to ticks in general.

>>2870036
>young deciduous forests that are everywhere
>entire floor is leaf litter that keeps them cool and damp
true
but also
central European forests are heavily used for like >1000y by now
e.g. there's almost no forest in Germany that is 120y or older
and you can still see the "tick line" creeping up north

forest mismanagement is more of a local issue

>>2870047
Right, that's why I said "and also". It's warming up and ticks are inching north but there would still be a hell of a lot less of them in those marginal latitudes if awful land management wasn't providing them with free pussy.

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>>2869309
its great, i recommend buying the concentrated bottle from amazon or your local farm store, pic related. its much more value, the sawyer stuff is pricy. mix it yourself in a spray bottle, or mix some in a bucket and dip your clothes in it and hang them to dry. farmers spray it on their animals and around their pens to protect them from ticks and stuff.

Reminder: it's already been posted in this thread but wet permethrin is extremely toxic to cats

>>2870187
>wet permethrin is extremely toxic to cats
not only to cats
permethrin also kills fish or reptiles in low doses

luckily it's not a forever chemical
within 1-2y it's completely gone
usually much quicker, within a few days in water

I'm thinking about getting a battery operated fogger and some Ecovia MT for my yard. Anyone have any experience with this or other ideas?

>>2869787
I missed this comment.

Can't be serious lol or is this top tier 4chan?

>>2869309
i treated my shit with it a few weeks ago and havent gotten a tick since.

i had gotten one earlier this year on my crotch, the little bastard. but not since i tweaked out and treated my socks, gaiters, pants and shoes

seems good, ill probably treat again within 4 weeks instead of the 6 it says on the canister