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Did I have an atypical experience being homeless?
I literally had no money and had to rebuild my gear every year or so, but I traveled all over and got into and out of various vehicles and traveling modes, even rode a horse for some time, and I had an amazing time and a huge sense of freedom.
I miss being homeless now, I've got a place to live and a good vehicle but I feel like I'm wasting a lot of my time being in a home. I don't miss being stressed on resources, but I know these things kept me in my best shape and forced me to socialize with people I would never have talked to, forming lifelong friendships and bonds with people that go well beyond what most people ever have in any society.
Then I try to find other people who were in my situation and it's mostly bitching about how bad and dangerous being homeless was. I was never in any danger, maybe of heat stroke once or twice but it wasn't even that bad. These people talk about having to "be on guard while taking a piss or shit in case you get ambushed" and I have to wonder if they were just living in the ghetto homeless like a homebum or actually traveling around. Even when I stayed in some Californian cities for a month or two it never got anywhere near that bad. It isn't drugs either because I did hella drugs a lot, just not meth or fent. I'd drink almost every day too.
Now I work in manufacturing for in-ground vaults for waste or storage, and it's good money, but I feel like I'm wasting my life when before I was truly living it even in the bad times. I already felt like that before I was homeless.
When I bring this up a lot of people get uncomfortable or even angry, I guess it goes against this preconceived propaganda-ish notion that being homeless is the worst possible thing? Maybe it removes much of the victim-value in it which those people have used as the foundation for their slop politics or something.
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>>2869552
Cont.
Like, any time I bring up how great traveling broke felt and how cool it was doing all these odd jobs or weird plans to make money and then going off to do other cool shit and camping in amazing places constantly in-between was people always focus on things like "but what about other people judging you?" or "how did you get food?" and it makes me realize how domesticated a lot of people are, and completely ignorant of their own self-value as an individual. If I'm around the kind of people who get angry about it they just want to call me a liar, I can feel it in how they act, but I have too much to show for it that so they end up getting frustrated and just throw insults at me about it out of nowhere. It's a fucking pathetic little monkey dance and it really diminishes my respect for people as a whole that there's so many like this.
It was incredibly easy to go walk out of town and find an undisturbed patch of land to camp when I needed to, if I truly needed money and couldn't get it I would just go directly ask people for the things I needed and I don't think I ever had anyone not oblige me unless they weren't able to help, and even then they'd send me over to someone who could. Most of the time I could get hired to work for a few days somewhere on the spot though, most people were incredibly eager to hire me and most even paid under the table. I never starved, for a period I was even in the middle of fucking nowhere Missouri in places where locals don't go because of all the snakes and I still survived fine. Ticks sucked though. I think the only dangerous shit in the world for the homeless community in America is the fucking drama from attentionwhore retards.
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For most people, sedentary life is what gives them those lifelong bonds you're talking about. You can't have a sense of purpose and belonging in a community as a homeless bum. You just look out for yourself. It's different. It can feel exhilarating to just focus on surviving for yourself, but at the end of the day, you have nothing to show for it. You are nothing to no one except a burden. People start families, work jobs that directly contribute to their community, and it gives them a place to belong and a sense of purpose.
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>>2869552
Anon, most people who are homeless for extended periods of time are homeless for a reason.
Often the reason is drugs or mental health problems.
And these people don't just occasionaly get drunk, they are never sober.
>no meth or fent
And that's a big one as well, opioids and meth can get you hooked quickly, and make you think about nothing but drugs.
Hence homeless shelters are often full of drugs and crime.
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>>2869553
How'd you find consistent odd jobs/money?
I mean yeah, if you can find a way to make money then being homeless is piss easy (as long as you're not in Alaska or something).
>>2869673
Sitting around in your tiny apartment scrolling on tickcuck and working office job isn't showing 'agency', dumbshit
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>>2869706
I retired at 38 and paid my house off two years ago.
I spend most of my time with my kid, my livestock, and in my very large garden.
We raise, process, and preserve about 60 percent of our own food.
I sell eggs and meat and that covers the property tax and keeps me in kind bud from the dispensary.
Right now my wife is putting the kid to bed and I’m potting plants while a flock of starlings harass my chickens. The lightning bugs are out in full force despite the sky still being light.
I assure you, I cannot fathom what you’re even talking about.
What I can fathom are every three months having to run off some scummy smelly homeless junkie scoping my property or actively breaking into my outbuildings.
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>>2869673
I'm about to own 20 acres to go homeless again just so I can milk passive income and rub my huge wallet in the faces of people like you, looking forward to mogging golems is the only reason I'm grinding and living in a house right now.
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>>2869759
>I retired at 38 and paid my house off two years ago
Fucking how? What'd you do for work and where in the country did you buy? Or was there just a hefty dose of family money?
Regardless of how you ended up there, I'm jealous that sounds pretty ideal.
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>>2869802
Worked my ass off for 20 years. Paid heavily into retirement then cashed that out because it will be insolvent in 6 years. Rolled that into some favorable stocks in 2020 during the Rona and cashed out quickly.
I live rural and the house was 55k with half an acre.
>sounds ideal
Don’t worry my shitty mental state and ptsd fucks it up routinely.
>family money
I also came into a life insurance policy when my mom passed in 2023.
Dividends and hobby farming pays for fun stuff and wife works as a librarian (so it’s not like she makes much).
We drive an older cars but they’re paid off.
It just sucks to work very hard then have some entitled homeless junky try to rob your shit or destroy property.
Go fucking build a whack shack in the woods or something?
>>2869779
>own 20 acres to go homeless
Lol whut?
>>2869790
Clearly you did. I caught seeth from this post.
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>>2869803
So a combination of hard work, fortunate timing and prudent decisions. Fair enough then, you deserve to be able to retire early if all those factors come together. Sorry about your mother too.
Meanwhile I'm 34 and it feels like I've spent my life up to this point just fucking around. I've got a decent income now (on six figures working 20/wk) but basically nothing in terms of wealth and I don't see the relationship I'm in lasting. Housing is such a fuck post covid.
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>>2869810
Basically yeah just lucky as fuck. 42 now and most of my peers are fucked.
I graduated college and BAM 2008 recession destroyed most of my classmates prospects at ever owning anything.
I get the appeal of the road, and if the homeless only targeted big box stores and landlords for property crime they would have nothing but my support.
As it is though, homeless are walking biohazards, leave refuse and litter everywhere, leave human excrement everywhere, many are mentally I’ll and refuse medication or self medicate with street drugs, most commit crimes in order to fund all of these choices.
You don’t want to participate in society?
Fine! Who the fuck does?!
Go build a cabin in the woods or hitch to some remote area and set up a new life. Go live on some remote pacific island or be a fire watcher in Alaska.
Turn a patch of desert into an oasis.
But no they’d rather ride out a midwestern winter, smoke meth and shoot fent, thieve and scrap copper out of abandoned houses because it’s easier than taking agency and building a better life for yourself.
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I don't really know what the point of this thread is.
OP, yes, you had an atypical experience. Most homeless people are severely mentally retarded, seriously mentally ill, have crippling addictions, or just such extreme personality disorders that they are incapable of maintaining meaningful relationships with others. It's these very issues that result in both their homelessness and their deplorable conditions and experience. People like you and I, or others I met on the road who were hopping rail or hitchhiking or bush camping are the exception by far.
I had a more similar experience to you - I had no money, I kept moving, I met lots of interesting and friendly people, I was never in danger. Uncomfortable at times, stressed or anxious at times, but never had a seriously negative experience. I mostly camped outside towns but occasionally in cities when I couldn't find a last minute place to crash. It will always be remembered as one of the best times of my life, even though it was pretty short.
The issues were the lack of real long term relationships, the lack of something I could really build on over time, and the inability to start a family - the lifestyle doesn't support these things. It's why I settled down, got a full time job, and now I wagie grind 40+ hours a week. I have more memories from one year on the road than any 5 years of domestic life, and that feels bad sometimes, but the comfort and satisfaction I get from my wife and child and home are immeasureable. Someone I got to know really well never gave up the nomad life, and he's getting old now. He'll either die out in the woods somewhere or end up begging one of his few remaining old friends for a place to sleep when he can't do it anymore. He's bitter and lonely, even if he lived an amazing life for the most part. I don't want to die like that. I want to die in a place I love, that I poured my life into, with my family at hand.
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>>2869835
You’re just mad I pointed out how scummy and gross most homeless are.
I’m not “derailing” the thread, I am pointing out that most homeless are scum and I will continue to treat them as such.
I have zero sympathy and do not support any efforts to “help” the homeless.
Most of them choose that lifestyle and that’s not my problem.
Go ahead tell me why it’s everyone else’s fault that you’re homeless.
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>>2869860
Nothing the OP said had anything to do with the shit you're crashing out about unc. OP was obviously not the type of fent head homeless person who keeps leaving your water spigot running or whatever you're freaking out about.
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>>2869865
Op asked if his situation was atypical. I’m simply pointing out that most homeless are shitbags (like yourself) and yes OP did exemplify himself as a typical stinky ass street sleeper.
>I got into and out of situations
>I did hella drugs a lot, just not meth or fent. I'd drink almost every day too.
No one should glorify being a disgusting filthy homeless and I fucking promise OP stole from some random innocent homeowners or worse some asshole paying rent just trying to get by.
Fuck you and fuck the homeless.
I help them whenever I can… into the back of a squad car.
The most recent one picking his toes with a Bowie knife. I called the cops and said he was threatening and brandishing a weapon.
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>>2869870
Proactive approach. How is swinging a knife around in public not a threat?
Last ones I caught busting into a garage window with an improvised flail.
You’re right I should just wait until they become violent. Oh no wait that’s retarded.
Go be homeless somewhere else with your zip tied bike handle, dog chain, and crude monkey paw.
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Had to snap out on another junkie trying to trespass on the abandoned house next door. Sad story, used to be an respectable old black lady, she died at like 98 and her grandson (a respectable old black guy) rented the place out until he got too old to manage the property and it fell into disrepair. The tenants destroyed the water heater and subsequently the foundation and it got condemned and then he died.
It’s all in probate and the city refuses to just tear it down.
It’s a magnet for scum looking for copper (the former tenants already removed all of that) and a place to do drugs.
I will file another complaint and it’ll go nowhere.
>dood just let them do whatever they want!
No. If I have to follow rules so do they.
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>>2869552
I also had an atypical homeless time. Was all screwed up from medical problems before medicaid for the poor was a thing(and after a few months oit poof it WAS a thing) and needed time to recover. It was hella dangerous and I moved to a big city from a small town. Met a few decent people, good hearts but mentally ill or PTSDed out. Got a Bachelors in Street Smarts from the School of Hard Knocks that has improved my life greatly. Made one very good friendship that lasted about a decade until mental illness took them from me after a few years of caretaking. It was an adventure. A real one. Not a few hours ziplining bullshit. An adventure that destroyed my old life and forged my new one and changed how I look at the world, but, of course things could have been better but honestly I had been on track to bust my hump in retail till I died as some Department Supervisor.
The world is changing fast with AI and mass immigration changing the job market and if I ever and up homeless again, Ill be well prepared so I can look for work or keep working, no sweat.
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>>2869552
i just spent a week travelling hobo style with a tent, hiding in cities to sleep, walking around from 5am to 10pm. so much freedom, you stop giving a fuck about everything. it was honestly most fun i had in years. there were a few moments it felt sketchy (niggers) but nothing extreme. i honestly think i'd enjoy being homeless