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We can argue about which country has the best mountains but deep down in our hearts we all know it's Switzerland and people only say otherwise cause it's expensive as fuck
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>>2870669
Switzerland is beautiful and the Alps are one of the best mountain ranges on earth, you'll hear no argument from me there. The problem is, those mountains are for the most part bare, or solely coniferous.
There's really no beating the White Mountains of New Hampshire in the autumn.
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>>2870693
>don't get the recognition they deserve.
I don't think so. I would say spring is the only season with cult following. And it's pretty reasonable because imo spring has the best weather but autumn is the most aesthetic.
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>>2870728
There's like two tree species over there and shit tons of posted hunting preserves everywhere that you can't see on Google maps. East coast is real nature and you can go anywhere and do anything you want. West coasters have no Bushcraft skills because there are almost no natural resources and any place you can possibly drive to is heavily monitored land or private property. The greatest state in the country is Vermont.
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>>2870842
>West coasters have no Bushcraft skills because there are almost no natural resources and any place you can possibly drive to is heavily monitored land or private property.
lmao what? The west coast and way, way more public land than the east coast. Have you ever actually been to the west coast?
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>>2870849
Yes, and that's how I know that what you're saying is a myth. Northern New England is nothing but public land. You can walk into any woods you see, make fires, do target practice, even cut trees down and make a fort. In my experience, I couldn't maintain that kind of lifestyle when I lived out West. All the land within a reasonable driving distance of where I worked either ended up being private when I showed up, was inaccessible, had weird laws, etc. It really sucked and I had a bad time, moved back to New England within 4 months. I'm sure there's good country out West, but not within day trip distance of any place you can actually live or work. Out is a lifestyle for me and not something I just do on vacations so I need good public land in my backyard.
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>>2870842
>screeching reeee
literally none of this is true. Are you retarded? my local national forest is half the size of vermont. My state has public land equaling 5x the size of the entire state of vermont. lol
>You can walk into any woods you see, make fires, do target practice, even cut trees down and make a fort.
Which you can do in any NF of which there is vastly more of in the West
>East coast is real nature
lol. Without an apex predator llike griz, wolves or lions...it aint real nature. I have all those on my prperty
>I'm sure there's good country out West, but not within day trip distance of any place you can actually live or work
Are the retard who lived in grand junction and complained about forest service roads being to rough for your car? lol. This such an ignorant opinion thats not true in the slighest.
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>>2870693
Eh. I don't like the light green of the leaves, I prefer when they darken. Plus spring stinks, whereas fall smells delicious, and there are many more bugs in spring than there are in the fall. As an added bonus, the undergrowth clears out massively in fall, whereas springs up massively in... spring. Makes off-trail wandering very annoying and the ticks, bleh.
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>>2870669
I moved to Switzerland from Canada a few years ago. The views are stunning, but the downside is I've found it's much more difficult to get that feeling of remoteness here and it's something I miss.
Like along that Augstmatthorn to Harderklum ridge in your photo, you can see Interlaken most of the way there, along with little huts and farms and cows all along the other side of the ridge.
Even doing multi-day alpine pass hikes, after a full day of slogging up the mountain you're usually met with a staffed, full-service hut at the top. The hot meal is nice but it kind of feels like you've spent the whole day trying to get away from civilization just to be met with civilization at the top.
Plus you have to deal with the fucking Swiss every day you are here.
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>>2871251
You know how when old people retire and run out of real problems to worry about in their daily lives, they start to invent things to obsess over and be upset about instead? Like staring out their windows all day and calling bylaw on anyone who parks on their street for 1 minute longer than they're allowed to? That is the essence of Swiss culture. The entire country feels like you are living in a spiteful retirement community or an HOA.
I have genuinely never met such a miserable group of people anywhere else I have travelled in the world. They are completely intolerant of the most basic physical and social existence of other people around them. We have had our neighbors bang on our door and threaten to call the police on us for taking a shower past 10:00 PM. This is not an uncommon occurrence here.
Obviously there are good people individually but as a generalization the Swiss are just incredibly unfriendly, arrogant, self-interested, and rude. We live in the French-speaking side of the country and my wife has had multiple French coworkers move back to France explicitly because they couldn't handle how rude and obnoxious the Swiss are. Do you know how bad it has to be for the FRENCH to find you too rude and arrogant to deal with?
We are planning to move back soon too for the same reason. The nature and salaries are genuinely not worth the misery of dealing with Swiss culture.