Why three letter agencies need to be put on notice every once in a while

>>533258049
Well. He was abusing children and modifying firearms illegally.

>>533258049
Ever played the game Far Cry 5? It was based on this but the game was much more interesting, with the nuclear attacks at the end

>>533258049
fucking other mens wives

>>533258049
>"OH MY GOD THE GOVERNMENT WONT LET ME ALLOW MASS RAPE OF CHILDREN AND STOCKPILE FIREARMS TO CLEARLY ATTEMPT A MASSIVE TERRORIST ATTACK FUCK"

>>533258049
Wacing off?

>>533258157
I don't believe that though

The beginning of the Great War on Terrorism. In this case, with terrorists who also molested children and held hostages.

>>533258049
Was it WACO or Ruby Ridge where the government deliberately sold him a shotgun or made him cut down a shotgun that was a poofteenth below the legal length?

>>533258209
definitely, and making wives out of those mens 12 year old daughters. also, what finally got them noticed was ordering loads of empty grenade casings and explosives to make them function.
ATF totally screwed the initial warrant serving and search for firearms and explosives, and it went to shit from there. in the end, it came down to a war of wills and the ATF guys decided to roll in with tear gas tanks. the fire started in all that confusion, possible started by a few hardcore koreshites, possible by space heaters getting knocked over by the tanks knocking holes in the walls.

>>533258207
>you know this interesting historic event, well there’s a shitty video game with an ending that breaks all suspension of disbelief

k

>>533258388
theres really no doubt that he was 'marrying' underage girls (multiple) and having his way with them, along with the adult wives of group members. no interview with anyone connected to the group denies that part. they generally believe that he was entitled to do that because his super duper special role etc etc.

>>533258049
>gun brought a lot of guns
>ATF wanted to look
>instead of arresting him when he was in town and going to the compound with a warrent they decided to pull up out the front and start shooting
>turns out people that believe the government wants to kill them will fight back when the government shoots at them

Basically the ATF wanted to play army so went for the Ranger style assault without any of the skills or training required to pull it off.

the replies to this thread are so fucking jewish they might as well have come directly from the fucking torah

>>533258049
Revealing the 7th seal.

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>>533258512
And now heres the truth.

>>533258157
People dont like that fact because it muddies the "fuck the feds" narrative that WACO pushes.

>>533258049
Opertion PAT-CON
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/patcon2:f

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>>533258049
total goverment control against possible dissidents
>and
people in the 70's not having proper fire control measures

>>533258207
good taste
>>533258405
>>533258264

did they molested children as some ritual shit?

>>533258049
Proclaiming the first zionist occupied goverment

>>533258758
That fact? Which ones got disproved more lmao. Feds made that shit up to villainize the cult. He’s a fucking nut. BUT, is been proven many times that both of those claims are false. Multiple survivors have denounced that. The feds needing a “good” win after the slaughter at Ruby Ridge. So Davey boy became the boogey man. They manufacture those crimes to somehow make murdering them ok. People hate bringing up how many children died. Muddles it up

>>533258758
It's not true you fucking kike.

>>533258049
The feds didn't like that he was smashing loli cunny on the reg

>>533258512
Why didn't the FBI/ATF just arrest Koresh when he went into town to collect his mail and go shopping, which he regularly did? Why did they want to force a dramatic showdown?

>>533258157
No he wasn’t lol. Worst thing he did was commit adultery lmao. He faggots have ruined that Dresden flag btw

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>>533258049

The compound was next-door to a private-airport that was running ZOG-Pimp / Nigger&Jew Human-Trafficking and Drugs...

The Waco Church had been observers / recorders of the ZOG-Pimp-Operations, and tried to report-it.

They allegedly had video / audio surveillance of the Anti-American ZOG-Pimps, and details of (((their))) operations.

Burned to the ground.

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Great music from Scotland

>>533259036
of course they should have done that. they even had that surveillance team set up right across the road from that place for weeks...with one of the guys going inside and getting to know people.

>>533258264
>MASS RAPE OF CHILDREN
Didn't happen. Not saying there was no abuse. But nothing out of the ordinary for any insular group like the amish or immigrants.
>STOCKPILE FIREARMS
Shall not be infringed.

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>>533258049
Wish we could ask this guy

>>533259055
he really was getting with the young girls. right from his first time with the BDs back when Lois Roden was this prophetess he was after some of the members young daughters. Then he had a sexual affair with Roden too.

ive seen no ex or current member testimony that disputes these things.

>>533259109
>of course they should have done that
But they didn't. Why didn't they?

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>>533258157
>that comment
>that flag

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>>533258049
>White Christians attempt separatist movement
They really didn't need an excuse beyond that

>red pill me on x
>1pbtid
>time wasting question
>OP is a faggot

>>533258049
The government will say it was about stopping a kooky cult from stockpiling weapons and doing stupid things with them, protecting the public and all that.
What it was REALLY about, was stopping a community from forming that could potentially be anti-government, which is no good if you're the government, so they were killed and made an example of.

>>533258049
Violent retards (ATF) dealing with regular retards (BD).

>>533258049
It was about preventing communities from becoming self sufficient. Communities that trade, barter and work together prevent world finance from taking its cut. Essentially, Waco burned for the exact same reason that Germany under Hitler was attacked. People who refuse to enslave themselves through debt are enslaved through force.

>>533258049
Anti government cult leader says possibly incriminating things and it tips off the zogbots to come and arrest him. Zogbots botch the plan though. Thats it. Both sides were huge fuck ups and dozens of people died for it. Both are to blame

>>533259295
Probably a data-mining thread.

>>533258479
Ruby ridge. He also never even did it. They had to drop the gun charge.

>>533259239
well, they'll say that they didn't want to give the others chance to hide evidence, which might have some truth to it....but of course, they were also looking for a higher profile chance to show off and make themselves look useful, and no doubt some guys wanted to play at being tough guys.

>>533259215
> “Perry said the team hadn't found any evidence to support President Clinton and U.S. Attorney Janet Reno's contention that the cult children had been abused.”

>”So far no evidence exists that any of the children released before the fire were sexually abused, he said. He said that the children reported they discussed sexual matters during Bible studies and that the children exhibited a great knowledge of sex”

Notice how nobody is actually answering OP's question?

>>533259300
>stopping a community from forming
>forming
the BDs had been around for decades being exactly that and never been bothered by the law. im not saying the government is generally against groups standing against them but this group wasnt doing anything unusual really. they just got on the radar with the firearms stuff, with some prior attention from child services.

>>533259453
>released before the fire
im not talking about those. none of those were considered to be koreshes wives.

>>533259215
>he really was getting with the young girls.
So why didn't the FBI/ATF ever raid Epstein's NYC mansion or his ranch in New Mexico?

>>533259055
He was in a catch 22 with the law. It was lefal in texas to marry a teen with parents consent. But he also had multiple wives. It was statutory rape or polygamy no matter how you sliced it. That doesn't mean the atf and fbi were justified in their actions. They could have simply arrested him but they wanted to male a statement.

>>533259503
i think pretty much everyone is trying to answer that question from wherever they stand on the issue.

>>533258049
Notice that he was a sexual predator. Christianity is also actually a sex cult, except it's a gay cult (with preferences to women).

>>533258677
Doesn't help they also took foster care of runaway children and Koresh said they were subject to paid2pedo stuff, so the FBI/ATF also took out possible future witnesses.

>>533259554
So wtf you talking about then? The kids the Feds murdered were victims of abuse?
>those kids were abused.. no wait the other ones!

Notice (almost) everything is about sex, you dumb goyim animals.

He fucked young women/girls. Christianity is about men fucking other men/boys.

Fucking iddiots

>>533259562
of course he wasn't in the club. im not saying there arent huge and obvious double standards in teh world

>>533259579
yeah this. you dont have to deny the under age girls and many wives issues in order to see the terrible behavior of the ATF in how they did stuff. theres no excuse for what the did.

>>533259075
The Church allegedly had phone-techs living at the compound that had tapped-into a "Trunk-Line" or some-shit that served a bunch of properties around there...

They were privately recording private conversations at the ZOG-Pimp-Compound (aircraft-runway-property)...

>>533259648
im talking about koresh 'marrying' multiple underage girls. those aren't the kids that were sent out. he wouldn't let his wives or his own kids out (maybe one of the adult wives split, i cant remember now).

who had the higher power level: Branch Davidians or FLDS cults?

>>533259609
It was an odd situation no doubt but he really wasn't a predator. It kindnof a shitlib belief to think these things are pure selfishness but that is a cynical view. Koresh was similar to traditional mormon thought when it comes to this.

>>533258049
He wanted to live off the grid and out from under the heel of the state. I remember watching it on the news and all the accusations were made up. His family was murdered to send a message to the millions of people who at that point, were completely outside the political process in the USA. Obama?Trump made everything about race and USAmericans started talking about politics so much we had to make a retard holding facility to get the cunts off /b/

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>>533258049
A bungled press piece by the ATF so all those children had to die horribly.

>>533259743

Since most of the people are Dead or Silenced?

All we have is the ZOG-Pimp version of events?

>>533259764
>but he really wasn't a predator.
i kind of think he was, in a way. what kind of a guy does it take to come up with a 'new revelation' that only he is allowed to have sex with the members wives, while those members are no longer even to live with their wives? what kind of a guy does it take to 'marry' multiple young girls (10-14yo)?

>>533259871
im sure there was a bunch made up the media at the time. thats how media is.
>He wanted to live off the grid and out from under the heel of the state.
well, that was part of it, but the group had been doing that for decades even before they moved to the site near Waco. Koresh wanted to be the prophet for this age and be in charge of all the guys wives. He wanted to think he had the most amazing new revelations and teachings ever.

Koresh was a narcissist in many ways but he wasnt cynical. He actually believed he was who he was and what they were doing. It wasnt just a greedy man coming up with a scheme that tricks people into giving him a harem and servants. Him and his followers were throroughly convinced they were correct.

>>533258049
kike luciferian nutjobs getting smoked by kike glowie nutjobs

>>533258157
Except he wasnt. The worst thing they did was make those disarmed grenades on stands that had "complaints department" written on it with "take a number" on the pin.

Actual history, the ATF was looking at huge budget cuts if they couldn't justify their existence, so they went after the waco people who were a thorn in the side of the CIA because they were interrupting human trafficking operations. The government painted them as bad people and when they hit resistance, they simply murdered them all.

>>533258157
just like Michael Jackson was "a pedo" because (((they))) didn't like him buying the Beatles anthology?

not a single survivor that left during hostage negotiations backs up that narrative.

>>533258049
It was about the ATF trying to get a win, convince the public that evil white religious people were planning an insurrection, and erode civil liberties. It was a glow op from start to bottom and every fucking kike that killed those kids deserves to burn.

>>533258049
https://gematriaeffect.news/the-waco-siege-on-the-87th-day-of-the-masonic-lodges-age-april-19-1993/
https://gematriaeffect.news/the-jesuit-order-connecting-waco-oklahoma-city-bombing-9-11-2001/

>>533259962
you can read interviews with very very many members and relations and survivors that were taken with months of the fire, along with the records and writings of sympathetic outsiders who knew the group before during and after.

beyond that its not possible to know anything i suppose.

>>533258264
Except they didn't. They rescued kids from human traffickers.

>>533258049
Some guy that did adultery, and the ATF; surrounded him and destroyed his compound, because he was doing some commie plot.

>>533258049
People wanted to be weird in an organized fashion, and gubment wouldn't allow it. Feds drastically overstepped, but at the same time, this almost certainly would've ended poorly for a lot of people if there was no intervention. Charismatic doomsday leader taking people's wives as a messiah? Bad news. Still not justification for the preemptive interference, and certainly not for the method in which it was done.

>>533260001
When I think predator I think of someone that is malicious. I dont think he actually thought he was using people for his selfish desires. I believe he was sincere.

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>>533259679
have some more truth, my satanic enemy.

>>533260032
dude, god just so happened to tell him to sleep with hot girl and with his friends wives

i do not doubt that in his mind, it wasnt a straight up conscious scam. he had to believe that he was divine in some way, but also he had to know it was bs deep down

>>533260116
do you have any evidence of that?

same for them selling the 'complaint department' grenades.

>>533258049
To promote his band, Waco Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E0auqlXkhU&list=RD1E0auqlXkhU&start_radio=1

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>>533258264
Didn't happen, and even if it did, Koresh was going into town with no protection of any kind 3 times a week where he could easily be arrested, and he was friendly with local law enforcement and would have (and already did when asked) accepted to come talk with police. The feds burned dozens of children alive because they wanted to, simple as.

>>533260092
>buying the Beatles anthology?
And being paid with worthless Sony BMG shares until they started being not worthless and he decided to not make his music with Sony because he didn't like their biz model while still keeping the shares.
And naming them several times as oppressors.
And being one of the leaders for children in the entertainment industry syndicate.

>>533260202
i tend to look at their actions. crazy people can do all kinds of things and sincerely believe its good

>>533260116
>They rescued kids from human traffickers.
Sure thing buddy, see: >>533259901

>>533258049
Whites giving one more reason to replace them with Jeets.

>>533260216
I think its very easy is be cynical and its very hard to think someone wpuld do that with sincerity but I think its possible and in this case I believe its likely. Malicious intent would have manifested itself in other ways. By all accounts he was very transparent and intentional and didnt have much sneaky activity to the detriment of his followers

>>533258049
the government telling goyim quitting society has consequences. back to the plantation. weapon stockpiling is grounds for the government to murder you because you are becoming independent and able to defend yourself

>>533260221
They were using sonic weapons on them before the fire, including v2k. They were pulsing messages like "why do you have to expose them?" and "might as well burn you", before the fire.

Evidence here: https://youtu.be/7PQeOBrnZgg

And if you don't know what you're listening to, you have a very deep rabbithole ahead of you.

Whatever the case may be, the exits were bulldozed trapping everyone inside.

>>533260395
and why would anyone able to live by himself and be able to fend off attackers voluntarily pay the goy tax every month? people with guns surrounded by barbed wire and landmines won't pay shit and thats what the government fears the most

>>533260384
didn't have to be sneaky, because he'd convinced them that everything he did was 100% what God wanted him to do, and for them to tolerate as a test of faith etc etc. thats how it works in cults - if you disagree you get kicked out, which means losing everything you've got, since you've already given up everything to be there.
then theres the fear of rejecting Gods will for your life, and ESPECIALLY of rejecting Gods Prophet. THAT is probably the most powerful hold of all when it comes to Christian-ish cults like this.

>>533258157
Ok Reno. Rot in hell.

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Reminder that the jews made THREE (3) propaganda movies to convince the public that ZOG was innocent, and the Branch Davidians were a pedo doomsday cult that burned themselves alive.

>>533258207
Far Cry 5 is what happens when Meth becomes a religion, and in the end the nuke still happened.

>>533260547
>if you disagree you get kicked out, which means losing everything you've got, since you've already given up everything to be there.
But that's bullshit in this instance, as expected of a leafjeet. Every adult in the compound had a job and was free to come and go as they please, they still had normal jobs and the compound didn't get money from extorting its members, it sustained itself by selling weapon-related things like empty grenades, all those activities being 100% legal in that state.

In the absolute worst interpretation of the evidence, Koresh was a sexpest schizo who fucked a few young teens. Nothing justifies laying siege to the place, much less the intentional audio torture using animal death gurgles to induce sleep deprivation followed by the burning alive of 70 people. The ATF even shot in the back BD who were just burying their dead. All feds are fucking animals and must be hanged.

>>533260468
oh i know about that stuff anon, it was really nasty evil sounds being aimed at them. i mean, if you wanted to make a Christian group think you're satanic, do exactly what teh ATF did right there.
was just wondering abut evidence of them having rescued children. ever seen anything to support that from any interview or other source.

>>533260693
lmao imagine all the shit they used to get away with before there were cameras on phones and the internet. we are all cattle living on the zog plantation

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>>533259609
Being attracted to girls in puberty is the normal thing
Being a trannyfaggot retard is not

>>533260810
its not false at all. im not saying they were imprisoned in the place anon. im talking about membership in the group. I've been in a cult and studied the phenomenon for years. the holds i described are absolutely the things that leads any doubters to squash their doubts and carry on.

ive not said anything justifies what the ATF did. the opposite in fact.

>>533260890
Jesus Christ.

>>533260974
You talk about "losing everything they've got", that's blatantly false. Nobody was shackled to the place, they weren't isolated from the outside world and prohibited from interacting with it, they did so constantly. They had jobs, talked to normal people every day, and went outside the compound every day. That's not what any normal cult does, that degree of freedom does not exist in any average cult. That place was a community, a weirdo community led by a schizo sure, but still just a community, not a cult and certainly not a dangerous one.

With the rules they impose, the Amish are far more of a cult than the BD.

>>533260547
You're describing modern globohomo, which is a cult that you're a part of. And if you're not, then you're incredibly naive.

>>533261120
>You talk about "losing everything they've got", that's blatantly false
you're not getting it. membership and acceptance in that group was predicated on accepting the message of what people believed was a true prophet of God, the last messenger before the end of the world. once youre in that deep, being part of that IS everything. to leave that, or be kicked out for doubting the prophet, is so absolutely terrifying that it leads people to suppress any doubts.
thats the basic hold of a cult, no matter how restrictive or otherwise it might be. its not about you being forced to stay anon - its about you making yourself stay because to leave is unthinkable....the same as forsaking God entirely.

>>533261140
go on, tell me more.

>>533258388
The reason people start cults is so they can tell their followers that God says it's OK for the leader to diddle his followers' children and/or have sex with their wives

>>533258049
jewish blood sacrifice

>>533261351
If we use your definition, every single normie in existence is in a cult since they believe in jabs and are afraid and angry and want to kill you if you're antivax. Same with evolution, moon landing, dinos, climate change, germ theory... It's not a very useful definition when only a very tiny minority of people are not in it.

>>533260815
Sorry, can't lie, I don't actually know where to find it. I know the official story is wrong but it's hard to find even revisionist stories on the topic. Schizos claim their channels get messed with when they bring it up. All I know is there's probably something to it, since the ATF is pulsing messages into their house mocking them for being vigilantes. "Why do you have to expose them?" is a weird message to pulse in for no reason.

>>533258049
degenerate hippie fags and government fags conflicted over which dick they want to suck more, it's really that simple and boring, like most sick stories to come out of Amerifart

>>533261528
you keep missing the point. yes normies can be said to be in a cult, of course. after all, what a cult is, is a construct.

however, people keep leaving their country or changing their political views and its not as bad as leaving what people call "a cult". not to mention, even if society is retarded, cults will typically be more unhinged, and it will have worse consequences to be in one than to be a normie.

>>533261528
its so much a definition of what a cult is, but of one way in which members come to think of the group. its one part of what goes on. that much is absolutely undeniable.
that a similar kind of thing can be found in other places is hardly surprising because its just part of how people think and behave. for some people the whole covid experience was vaguely akin to a cult indoctrination.

>>533261550
i dont deny that the sonic attack shit was bizarre. im not sure what some of those little pieces were actually saying, if anything. would have to look into that. i
d also question if those incredibly short and slurred utterances, if they are speech, could be understood by people on any level at all. its possible but i couldn't say so right now.

>>533261528
NOT so much a definition of what a cult is.....i missed the NOT out

>>533258049
How we should blindly trust le hecking government because they have our best interest and surely wouldnt try to kill us the moment we are not dependent on them

>>533258049
Rock n roll and fuckin teens. Motley crü but with jesus

>>533261807
Keep in mind that when pulled out of a recording the voices sound mechanical, but when conducted against your sinus cavity, sound very realistic

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>>533261854
try living inna woods. people think its an option so they cope with being goycattle by thinking i can always quit society and go inna woods. until you actually try it and get hunted down on hauled off to prison for squatting on public land without permits and shit

>>533262118
remember ruby ridge? they killed the guys family because he wouldnt sell ATF agents a sawed off shotgun

>>533262170
to that note you could buy a small parcel of land and live off of it but still. even that is a huge tradeoff for convenience sake

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The start of the end.

>>533262170
They killed his family because he refused to be an informant on NS groups in the region. The entire shotgun stuff was entrapment and was ruled as such, no one gave a shit about the gun, the feds just wanted revenge because he refused to be their bitch.

>>533262079
im just not clear on if the content is understood at by the brain. it would be almost a subliminal effect in this case and thats im not really convinced works.
theres no doubt that the over all effect of the sounds played at the BDs was really creepy and nasty. if they played that at my house with my family inside it, theres not a single chance id be coming out, let alone send my kids into their arms. ATF must have intended that reaction because its so damn obvious how christians are going to react to such awful hellish stuff.

>>533262170
same damn sniper too. same guys at both places.

>>533262214
no problem buying some land but at the end of the day you are never truly free and once they know where you and your buddies are living off grid they can always come and shut you down with made up bs charges

>>533262442
to either get you back on the plantation willingly or shoot you right there

The real people to blame for Waco are the evangelicals and Christians who were against his chapter or flavor of kool-aid Koresh was drinking.

They even mocked the residents of waco by flashing their asses (including the women) and playing loud music at night.

Americans are yids

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>>533262170
It’s “sawn off” shotgun, not “sawed off”. They “corrected” sawn off to sawed off but that was a linguistically incorrect correction, that is not how words work and sawn off was correct all along because it is a noun (a name) when used as the name of a type of firearm and not a verb (a doing word, sawed is usually the correct verb but its not a verb that is being applied this particular case sawn is a an arbitrary noun). Nouns come from common usage, its a “sawn off shotgun” because that is what people call it, that’s its noun (its name) not a description of what somebody did to it even though the noun is derived from the verb.
>words, words, words…
…It’s like the arsey scottish idiots of the woke left all decided to enter the victimhood olympics by objecting to the word “scotch” being applied to them
>scotch is a drink not a people I am “Scottish” you will address me as such if you please.
They all started copying that exact little brainfart speech from each other verbatim as if to win outraged victim points.
Well as it happens scotch is a 100% perfectly accurate description of anything hailing from or originating from Scotland and they were (and still are in many cases) 100% absolutely wrong as well as morally out of order.
>Oh look it’s a SAWN OFF little SCOTCH GIT
You could object to the use of sawn again in this sentence but its linguistically perfect since in this case it is not intended to purvey that someone has participated in actually sawing something. “Sawn” becomes slang in this example.
And i think we’ve all learned something here today, be yourself and if you love something set it free, i think he’s gonna do juuuust fine. Doody doody doody-doo.

>>533263072
It's an adjective, nigger. More precisely, it's a passive participle.

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>>533262596
Can we see the asses?
Make with the asses Gupta.
Where have the asses come from?
I demand to see the asses.
Did you just make that up.

>>533258157
So obviously the correct thing to do if you're the government is to burn those kids alive, right?

>>533258049
Koresh knew he was fucked for fucking kids if any of his flock escaped, so he decided to convince them they were being persecuted so they'd all die there instead of him going to prison. The rest of the story is window trimming.

>>533263507
>any of his flock escaped
quite a few did leave the place though. some were out when it started and couldnt get back in (one was shot trying), some were farther away out of state etc, some didn't live full time there etc etc. everyone knew that koresh had married young girls and was claiming members wives for his own to have 'special' children with. it wasn't a new thing at all.

>>533263072
10/10. I love righteous grammarian rants, the more niggling and esoteric, the better. Now correct me, you wonderful bastard.

>>533263238
It's leathern coat, not leather coat, you fucking doodyhead.

>>533264077
In that case that is a noun adjunct or an attributive noun.

It was an end times harem for some guy who believed he had access to the Seals of Revelation (Abrahamic elder scrolls) and their prophet got a little carried away with 14 year old girls.

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>>533258049
Koresh having illegal weapons (and yes, I am aware that a 2A argument concerning the unconstitutional nature of the NFA can be made, so spare me the le/k/ture) is really the only thing that was proven to be true. Attorney Dick DeGuerin admitted that Koresh told him he had illegal firearms, though whether or not those guns were there the day of the raid is something we'll never know. Legal or not, a compelling argument could likely be made (especially to a Texas jury) that converting semi-autos to full-auto is 100% justified simply to match the firepower of ATF agents who just recently attacked your home with excessive force. As for everything else (sexual abuse, the "mass suicides," etc) none of that has ever been proven. The tl;dr can be seen in the image I am providing. Anyone who thinks they can refute this info is more than welcome to try.

The thing that was really eye opening was when I found out his first child marriage was completely legal under Texas law
The worst they could have gotten him on was polygamy once he did it again
All they had to do was arrest him one of the frequent times he was out and about in town and this whole mess would be avoided
The weight of ATFs sins and what the FBI did to cover for them tips the scale harder then anything koresh did

>>533262373
Really jogs the noggin huh

>>533265924
There is no such thing as an illegal weapon in a truly free country
we are so fucked

The ATF was trying to pull a stunt where they'd get a quick win against some wackos, look heroes, and clean up their image after Ruby Ridge. Instead, ZOG blew it, and they killed everybody.

>>533266414
And again, what in the fuck does the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agency have to do with teenage sex? The feds had no right to even look in their direction, but the bloodthirsty beasts got addicted to goyim blood all under the direction of the obese lesbian Janet Reno.

>>533266619
Well, to quote the esteemed James Mason, "underage girls are dynamite", and the ATF handles explosives.

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>>533266510
>(and yes, I am aware that a 2A argument concerning the unconstitutional nature of the NFA can be made, so spare me the le/k/ture)

>>533258049
-weird cult was probably abusing kids
-ATF decided to kill them all with fire, including kids, and liberals use the whole event as an excuse for gun control so working class people are unarmed when the nazi death squads come

>>533267028
dang, people still go to /k/? That shit's one of the slowest boards on the entire site right now, and probably consists of 20, at most, unique posters

>>533258049
>be original Branch Davidian member
>claim prophecy gift
>compete with leadership
>break off and establish your own thing at Mount Carmel
>sell guns to support community homestead
>come under feds radar
>ATF in trouble of losing funding
>idea-lightbulb.gif
>ATF says gun show inventory is stockpile of illegal automatic weapons
>ATF decides a high profile raid will secure agency funding
>ATF calls the news media to publicitymaxx
>raid is a disaster
>Davidians defend their home
>ATF BTFO
>Davidians let them retreat
>FBI called in and takes over
>Koresh asks to speak with news media
>FBI says no
>feds and media reframe issue as Koresh being a child molester
>and Davidians religious zealots
>FBI starts using psychological tactics to deny them sleep and antagonize
>increasing pressure on Clinton and AG Janet Reno
>Delta Force gets called in to advise
>they infiltrate compound and set up explosives, cameras and listening devices
>2nd raid is planned
>plan is greenlit
>feds use modified army tanks to fill compound with CS gas
>pyrotechnic devices used in raid ignite gas
>whole compound is on fire
>Davidians try to escape through back of compound
>Delta Force and a tank are waiting for them and open fire
>all Davidians dead
>massive coverup ensues

government doesnt like white people deviating from society and killed them all to make them an example

>>533258049
burning man first edition

>>533266619
>And again, what in the fuck does the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agency have to do with teenage sex?
nothing. thats not why they were there at all. different things entirely.

>>533267105
Why does /pol/ say this when they frequently get laughed off the board and can never actually post guns

>>533260262
>>533258677
/thread

There are more shills than actual people in this thread.

>>533267818
doesn't seem like shills to me. just anons who've only a few basic ideas about the whole thing. its the same with most subjects unless you get around to readng more about it.

A FUCKING TANKS?
Who was this guy? A white Saddam Hussein?

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>>533260718
Far Cry 5 ans it's sequel were an amazing prophecy

Heil Joseph Seed!

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>>533258049
some retards decided to FAFO by not complying to officers orders

>>533258049
why are you posting captive goy?

>>533258049
Some schizo christcuckoids led by a bigger schizo made a personal commune in a building that the governemnt didnt like about and in the most retarded fashion like they wanted to emulate russian spetnaz storming schools rescuing hostages, they firebombed the building completely and took trophy photos after it like the average zogbot wearing punisher skull shirts bragging about a "job well done".

In the end they fed millions upon millions of muttmerican schizos the idea that their retarded government is out to get them which lead to a building with children being bombed a while after

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>>533271784
>In the end they fed millions upon millions of muttmerican schizos the idea that their retarded government is out to get them which lead to a building with children being bombed a while after
There's more to the oklahoma bombing than the official story says, I just don't know what exactly

>>533272000
too bad your pic doesn't say

>>533258049
Miami dade is full of jews, Janet Reno represented Miami Dade. Janet Reno used debunked "where on the doll did the man touch you" methodology which relied more on putting kids into solitary until they pointed at the doll.

She also threw men's wives into solitary (apparently) until they testified that they were in satanic daycare cults

She used University of Miami child psychologists Laurie and Joseph Braga
>"volunteer consultants"
>The Bragas were pivotal in the Country Walk Day Care Center case in 1984
To throw possibly innocent men behind bars

She used these methods to throw miami dade police officer Harold Grant Snowden in jail for 5 consecutive life terms which was overtuned in 1998

>Did you then, or do you now, have a view as to why it was that this prosecutor, Janet Reno, and her office seemed so determined to bring these charges against you?

My opinion of this is of the hysteria and the paranoia in Dade County at that time against people who baby-sat, day care centers, nurseries, people unlicensed to baby-sit. So many people were being accused of this crime and, of course, all of these people were denying these crimes.

Now they have a police officer and they're showing that it just doesn't happen to the average person. "We have a police officer accused of the same thing. So it must be true that all of these people that are accused of this really did it" ... I believe that if I would have been something other than what I was at that time, a highly decorated South Miami Police Officer, Police Officer of the Year, they would have never charged me with this crime.

>the prosecution had improperly used expert testimony to "bolster" the credibility of child witnesses despite a lack of other physical evidence.

And then she went after waco. People say this was a cover op or something for actual plainclothes child grooming centers giving pedophiles brainwashed kids

>>533258677
>>533260262
>>533267132
I hope people have learned the lesson from the Branch Davidians letting the ATF retreat, the same way people learned the lesson of Reginald Denny.

>>533260262
Remember when this place used to be useful?

>>533272753
I never bought the "atf was worried about being closed down" meme. It was the FBI that showed up and started murdering everyone

>>533272810
it was the ATF wanted do make a media feature about themselves for positive PR and so refused to do anything but charge in en masse and start an aggressive stand off. from what i can tell they were the armed side of the things the whole time.

>>533272996
I always figured the atf were some sort of sacrificial lambs to get something to happen because their intel was completely off, like kids stuff

>>533273309
i think it was their show from planning the raid to deciding if they go that morning or not. from what i can tell, they wanted to surprise the BDs but decided to go ahead even when they knew the post guy had told everyone they were coming. carrying out a warrant raid for firearms stuff is exactly what that agency is supposed to be for.
cant remember who carried out the surveillance op from the house across the road. maybe that was FBI...the negotiators were FBI.

>>533273573
>Doomsday cult you say?
>Heavily armed you say?
>We're no knock raiding them, you say?
>Based on the Intel that none of them will wake up or at least they don't sleep near guns
I would hand them my badge

>>533273752
exactly. from start to finish everything was done in a great way to make things as bad as possible. a bunch of people were trying to tell the ATF and FBI this kind of thing, from theology people to cult people to regular negotiators, but in the end it made no difference.

even just the audio and visual attacks taken in isolation couldn't have been better designed to have the BDs look upon the government people as being of the devil...which they already thought in the first place. Way to go confirming and hardening their resolve guys. well done

>>533258593
>>533258157
Ok so then the ATF needed to raid their house and kill over 50 women and children because of one man who they knew went into town regularly and they could have arrested him when he was in town by himself no problem?

Everyone should watch Waco: The Big Lie & the Waco The Big Lie 2. Here's part one:

https://youtu.be/PQ1b-PHdFZU?si=Oi73ur2ZMS6Wb6s1

tldr: Government lied about everything, used coward tactics, intentionally killed women and children, covered it up.

>>533274181
>Hey we have this whacko out at Waco he'd be perfect to get public attention off of blank

>>533258157
>children

That's what I remember. The fine line between religion and a cult was crossed.

>>533274361
Is that when they flew Janet reno's magic Jew psychologists out to tell the witnesses what to think? Or were they unaffiliated psycho rapists

It was the government trying to show they were competent after completely fucking up Ruby Ridge. They succeeded in making themselves look even more incompetent.

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>>533258049
Dont forget ruby ridge, randy weaver was a hero. They executed his wife, child and dog. He still wouldnt stop speaking out. Based strong character

>>533260468
This makes so much sense. He said he was receiving messages from God or something and changed his mind to come out.

>>533274181
why do anons have to make such a retarded leap? it makes no sense at all. just cool your jets a moment and read on and thinking a bit.

>>533258512
>the fire started in all that confusion, possible started by a few hardcore koreshites
You deserve severe torture and a slow death.

>>533274528
You forgot that Randy and his sons smoked the dumbass glowie after he shot the dog. Thats why the feds were so butthurt because a dumb hillbilly made them look stupid as fuck.

>>533258049
About a white boy that should've never been fucked with. And if I were alive at that time and wealthy, I would've solely funded the Branch Davidians my goddamned self. May David rest in peace. We will never forget.

>>533274634
That’s a pathetic fucking deflection attempt to a perfectly fair question. You’re a worm.

>>533258049
Waco was about redeeming the image of the ATF after the fiasco at Ruby Ridge. It backfired hard because the government is/was operated by a bunch of incompetent evil retards.

>>533258264
Koresh routinely left the compound so why not attempt to apprehend in a safe way away from his influences of the kids and the women and his lessers? They refused to do so and when they got their shit rocked, they got scared. FAFO

>>533274096
You are of the devil and the number of people who don’t agree is rapidly deteriorating

>>533274796
its a retarded fucking kneejerk response by someone making dumb leaps. read the thread. ive been talking about this shit all afternoon.

>>533274892
try reading the fucking post you faggot.

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>>533274528
They still sell his say no to ZOG t-shirt.

>>533274612
>changed his mind to come out.
changed his mind to *not* come out

>>533275072
Respect. Lets hope good people make money on that

>>533274704
Ah yeah they got one fed or something? I did forget about that.
But they were sneaking around on his property in camo gear, right? They used some sort of guncharge as an excuse. Something with an alledged supposed sawed off shotgun?

Like Ruby Ridge, it was a simple message - you can't escape.

>>533258049
its about what all cults are about: can a man lawfully convince men and women to offer themselves and their children as sex objects to one man that leads them all.

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>>533275895
>Something with an alledged supposed sawed off shotgun?

>>533276715
imagine being able to be able to lead a devout Christian group of men into not only letting you have kids with their wives and young daughters, but also make those guys abstain from sleeping with their own wives for many years.

then, when any doubts about this raise their ugly heads, you make them feel deep sorrow for having those doubts because doubting you having sex with their wives is the same as doubting Gods will.

pretty amazing when you think about it

>>533274251
I'm surprised JewTube would let something like that stay up. I got banned and deleted from JewTube simply for saying that Jeffrey Epstein was working for Mossad.

>>533276942
Thanks for clearing it up. They entrapped him. That would be illegal in the netherlands i think. But rules bend slowly here too

>>533277023
Koresh was an inspirational Chad. He also stole thr cult from some other guy.

>>533277229
seems unlikely that such an arrangement was original to the BDs.

>>533258049
Bunch of White people wanted to form their own little area and have enough guns to protect it from jews so they got firebombed.

If there had been any survivors they would've sued the government like Ruby Ridge and won.

>>533277166
They did worse than entrapping, they repeatedly asked him to do the thing, and when he did, he actually shortened it to a degree that was still legal, so they cut it a bit more themselves to justify it becoming "illegal". And just so you know, it's "illegal" if you don't tell the ATF and pay something like 200$ for a permit, but if you don't it's a decade in jail. This is the level of insane racket going on and bullshit rules to make everyone a "criminal".

Randy did nothing wrong; all the feds and in particular that Asian sniper must be tortured to death.

>>533258264
> t. The people who murdered 100's of children when asked why and realizing they would have to give an answer other than: "jews told me to."

>>533258049
Cult leader and his cult got smoked

>>533277343
>Bunch of White people
thinks again. was a very racial diverse bunch.

>>533277093
I remember when commenters were saying the Trump assassination attempt was fishy or fake JooTube would automatically delete the posts instantly. The censorship system is much more formidable then we give it credit for.

>>533274634
>>533274796
Again, covered in the documentaries
https://youtu.be/PQ1b-PHdFZU?si=Oi73ur2ZMS6Wb6s1

>>533277093
Many nuggets of gold are still on youtube probably because the real shit only ever has <100,000 views. Talking head podcasts like Carlson etc get all the attention. No one wants the real info. They want "infotainment" or they simply move on.

>>533277510
Ah, I see the mainstream brainwashing has been successful on you.

>>533258049
Fucking increasingly younger people.
Like all cults are.

>>533258049
Government overreach

>>533277686
well, its an accurate statement so far as it goes. but the implication, if its there, that it was either motivated or justified because it was a cult is obviously wrong.

>>533258157
>he was abusing children.
>burn everyone alive anyway.

seems abusing children is lockstep with the government, eh?

>>533258049
Waco was about cultist degenerate retards versus power-tripping corrupt assholes.

>>533277889
>cultist degenerate retards
i feel very sorry for them actually, and not only for the obvious fact that they got burned to death. That they allowed themselves to be so led astray by a guy telling them he was Christ and it was a great honor for him to have sex and kids with your wife is really sorrowful.

But thats what can happen, one step at a time, if you start wandering away from the clear word of the Bible, and that started a few schisms before finally ending up in Mt Carmel. The main error in teaching that they accepted, and its a common one for cults, is that there are currently Prophets of God around, and that you should seek them out and follow their every word. This idea came from the 7th Day Adventists who in turn got it from the Millerites who came before them.

that one idea, accepted over 150 years before the day of the fire, led to those people burning in that house.

>>533258049
It was genuinely one of the very few times the government was actually innocent but nobody believes them because the government is monstrously evil the other 99.9% of the time.

>>533277396
What do you think about the oklahoma coty bombing, some say timoty mcvay was a fed and other say a patsy, that they blew up the building from the inside

>>533258593
>YOU CAN'T MARRY UNDERAGE GIRLS BUT THE GOVERNMENT CAN MURDER THEM.
This is the level of discourse I expect from that flag.

>>533258868
>did they molested children as some ritual shit?
Pretty sure thay they did it because they enjoyed molesting children.

>>533278287
Religion as justification for why your shit needs to belong to me is the lowest fucking rung of manipulation and only works on absolute retards. I find it hard to have compassion for people who were not born actually retarded, but chose to become it.

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>>533278495
I know almost nothing apart from the (previous picrel) obvious assassination of the cop denouncing the inconsistencies in the story. I'm still waiting to find a good source on the subject, because it's all very fishy.

>timoty mcvay was a fed and other say a patsy
Either could be true, MKUltra patsy are a common theme, and picrel is a great example of this. At this time I can't see many reasons for the OKB, destroying confidential info (but what?) or demonizing anti-fed sentiments (but risky as it could just inspire others).

>>533278287
>The main error in teaching that they accepted, and its a common one for cults, is that there are currently Prophets of God around, and that you should seek them out and follow their every word.
But it's ok for jews to do this

>>533278852
> demonizing anti-fed sentiments

Probably this.

People like randy are not gonna bomb anyone, they have too much good in their heart to kill like that.

Its the feds self projection

Btw, Didnt they roll up a freemason killing ring in france?

>>533278499
why are you so stupid that this is the thing you think i was implying?

>>533279004
Why are you so stupid to imply it?

>>533278833
it works on those that really believe. thats all. for some people the belief is about UFOs (heavens gate etc) for others its a political cause. the common factor is that things are arranged such that the leader or group becomes central to the persons life to the extent that they will give everything to its cause. the thought of being kicked out or not not pleasing the group leader etc, is ever in the background.

>>533258049
Pedo elite wanting to rape and eat there children.

>>533279084
i didn't. at all. not once, not anywhere. you just thought that because you didn't take even a moment to read anything else or even think. you emoted. slow down next time.

>>533258157
>Well. He was abusing children
Per Gary Noesner, the lead FBI negotiator at Waco, the FBI didn't have any proof of - and didn't give a flying fuck about - him abusing children... UNTIL they pitched the idea of a full assault to Reno, while deliberately making sure nobody from the negotiations team was in that meeting.

tl;dr the militant part of the FBI was getting pissed off the siege was taking so long and wanted to kick Koresh's ass. It had nothing to do with kids.

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>>533278988
>Btw, Didnt they roll up a freemason killing ring in france?
They did, though officially it's just a few people. A few years ago, some youtubers doing urban exploration also found human bones hidden in a masonic temple.

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>>533278495
Well, it wasn't just a truck bomb that blew up the Murrah Building. You can draw your own conclusions from that.

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>>533258512
>40 pbtid from this CSIS jugpreet
I hope you're getting paid by the hour and not per anon deradicalized. You fucking suck at this so badly

>>533279237
Thats amazing. And its probably some fall guys, maybe get special treatment in jail or something. Dont they all cover themselves?

Pretty creepy to find human bones in a random mansion

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>>533279149
Retards falling for SPOOKS.

>>533279624
whats the problem? its just a subject ive read a bit about and am interested in for the cult aspects. ive clearly said that the government side completely screwed it up at every opportunity. but im not going to say that Howell/Koresh wasn't doing the things he was doing.

the raid and what he was doing in terms of all those 'marriages' are two completely different and almost completely unrelated issues.

>>533279698
no. just people who ended up in a cult. can happen to lots of kinds of people, smart or retarded. its not really about that.

>>533258049
> What was it about

Basically, you had a guy who was paranoid that the government was going to come in and kill them all. The government responded, basically, by doing everything he had warned about.

He was nuts, of course, but the government was also stupid, and facilitated (and encouraged) his delusions and his violent end.

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>>533279855
>just people who ended up in a cult
A SPOOK. A "spook" are ideas or social institutions that possess individuals, leading them to act against their own interests.

>>533279958
they really did do almost everything possible to force those people to circle the wagons around koresh, simply by acting like aggressive assholes the whole time.

i keep mentioning the sound and light attacks on the place. its just the best example of the ATF/FBI making themselves look like satan that i can think of. no one would let their kids go out to people blaring that shit at your house all night, night after night. it sounds deranged and evil in the extreme.

>>533280100
oh ok. hadn't seen the word used like that before

>>533280156
I still have some pretty clear memory of the events. It was really a complete failure on the part of the government.

> At Ruby Ridge, the government looked like idiots after shooting the child and dog of someone they could have quietly arrested days/weeks before, but instead chose to put on a show raid
> Following Ruby Ridge, the people at Waco got super paranoid. Meanwhile, the government looking stupid from RR, decided to make a show of how professional/tough they were at Waco, and screwed that up too.
> Following Waco, one of the random people watching the whole thing from outside the perimeter of the compound goes nuts himself, and blows up a federal building in Oklahoma city.

In retrospect, everyone instantly saw the connection between event 1, 2 and 3; but it was in retrospect, which means too late to go back and fix their mistakes

>>533279149
>it works on those that really believe

Hence the retarded label.

>>533258049
He was a kook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnVUC7eroA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TZhEfubDYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNJc8LeG23s

>>533258049
Some religious nutjobs keeping lots of flammable and explosive stuff and illegal guns around their kids. Then they told cops and ATF to fuck off. That is the fucking around phase. Turns out that cops and ATF weren't really aware how tear gas canisters work, those are pyrotechnics and get kinda hot when fired, then all flammable shit went off. That is the finding out part. 4 cops died. 82 religious nutjobs and their kids burned.

>>533258049
Don't know, but as musician he was worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKTdlNwKj4k

>>533260056
>they went after the waco people who were a thorn in the side of the CIA because they were interrupting human trafficking operations.
.......and we have a winner!
This is why they sent in tanks after kids.
Because that David found one of the old US/Mexico traffic tunnels right on the Border to Texas. found their weapons/ found their people being moved.
That's why he married so many of them. Because they have no name, no I.D. no SS. maybe they get to have a name and Identity.
Nope-slaughtered anyways on live TV.
that compound was intercepting their whole op and was going to expose the whole trafficking mess.
So they were all called extremists and murdered.
I'll never forget Clinton celebrating. "They Murdered themselves!".
That's where all the kids came from- and that's why the our Gov. killed all of them. Gotta call them just a bucha crazies and pedos...right?
My Gov. will kill you openly if it serves and protects their interests.

>>533258049
the atf needed a made-for-television win after fucking up ruby ridge

>>533258049
It was just another one of Clinton's campaigns against groups that do not agree with the Jews.
>>533258157
>abusing children
No proof of this whatsoever.
>modifying firearms illegally.
No. They were buying and selling firearms legally with all the paperwork in tact.

>>533281126
wtf

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>>533280958
>Hollyweird depiction of what happened with actors is what really happened.
If you believe this slop....They have a narrative to sell to you.

>>533281126
This is blowing my mind. Where can I read more about this?

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>>533280958
The guy who wrote that movie apologized to the Davidians because it was full of lies. Look up "Writing Waco" by Phil Penningroth.

>>533281126
i thought they were running guns for the cia

>>533280514
Did anyone bother coming to the door with a lawful warrant or even just "Hey I've heard some weird stuff about you guys, what's going on?", before doing a mega raid?

>>533282734
ATF agents pulled up to the Mt Carmel center in Waco in cattle trailers. Basically treated the event like a military raid and at least one agent fired on the Davidian's dogs. The others agents heard gunshots, though they were under fire, and began shooting wildly into the building. This is why a Texas jury refused to find the surviving Davidians guilty of murder.

>>533282734
If my memory serves, in the case of Ruby Ridge, they suspected the guy of illegally altering guns; (like cutting down barrels and stuff). Instead of trying to arrest him on one of his many lone travels to town, they put on a dog and pony shoe of raiding the compound.

In the case of Waco, the same people then claimed that children must somehow be in danger, because anyone who shunned the public school system and government must, of course, be dangerous. In that case, they also chose not to take him when he was out grocery shopping, but doubled-down on the tough act to make up for ruby ridge.

Also at the time, but POTUS and the AG were on the hot seat, looking like they were weak on crime, and weak against the growing number of citizen organizations (which some called militias), which had formed around the country following POTUS's pushing to ban so-called assault weapons.

So...ban of weapons seen as opening to government violence and takeover... militias formed... government over-reacts... create the very violence and takeover that everyone feared.

>>533282974
>>533283032
Sounds like a "hot shit show" as far I've heard. Evil is a spectrum, as well as ontology. Be well.

>>533279624
>Noooooooooo. You can't just bomb the feds
Funny how every single ATF agent just happened to be out of the office that day.

Funny how explosions came from INSIDE the building.

Funny how eyewitnesses started committing suicide.

Funny how Timmy wrote a letter to his sister bragging about working undercover for the feds.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100802122046/http://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/01/us/excerpts-from-timothy-mcveigh-letter.html

https://archive.org/details/corbett-report-the-secret-life-of-timothy-mc-veigh

>>533263394
they were ugly whites and they needed to be carved up and made to scream, they won't get to hide in their hick little holes, break those legs on them. Sweet music is them burning and wailing

>>533283855
>>533283998
>NO YOU GOYS CAN NEVER HARM WE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
>WE ARE INVINCIBLE, YOU ARE PATHETIC AND WEAK
>immediately follows through with obvious racebait agitation

You're not even trying

>>533258049
The branch davidians were rescuing children from underground trafficking rings. They had an entrance to the tunnel system used to distribute contraband that connects the hospital, schools, military base, etc. That is why they had so many weapons and children. This is why everyone was killed and they were made an example of.

>>533281126
any evidence for all this?

>>533284835
you'd have to prove some grand conspiracy by the shrinks brought in to lie and say the kids released during the standoff were not reporting sexual abuse. The shrink they brought in, Dr. Bruce Perry, said the kids were conditioned to not tell the truth. Who's to say what the truth is at that point when your source is a kid.

>>533285696
Perry told the Times that the children were reluctant to divulge the cult’s secrets at first.

“Over the course of two months, the kids became increasingly open about 11- and 12-year-old girls being David’s wives,” he said.

The Stars of David indicated that girls had “the light” and were ready to have sex with the cult leader. None of the girls who left said she actually had been sexually abused by Koresh.

>>533258049
putting out a fire with a flamethrower

>>533285947
Did you know that Dr. Bruce Perry's newlywed wife was found raped and ritually murdered in a church?

>>533286588
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Arlis_Perry

>>533267037
Janet Reno admitted it was always about setting new preventative gun control precedent and child abuse never happened, and it was memoryholed.

>>533258157
kill yourself faggot glowie nigger.

>>533284809
bump

Demonstrating that the government will do everything in its power to physically destroy anyone who tries to secede.

>>533282413
based

>>533287986
>Janet Reno admitted it was always about setting new preventative gun control precedent
Look whats happening in Virginia. They will never let this go. They are going to disarm US citizens. As Trump said, I like taking the guns first.

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>>533258677
Based narrative crusher.
>>533285947
>the children were reluctant to divulge the cult’s secrets at first
Sounds exactly like he trained and led them to the desired story.
>>533284835
Disgusting government agent.

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>>533258049
Control, and a bunch of killers that needed someone to go off on after having no targets for a while.

>>533288460
Yup, and it comes back to janet reno being some kind of glownigger attack dog that would falsify evidence with christian daycares using fake psychiatry and coerced testimonies

Then the question becomes, why? Was she really that stupid? That was her entire life? Daddy issues? Or was there a motive

>>533288094
id still like some evidence for this. where are anons learning about this?

>>533258049
about buggering kids and selling guns illegally.
BUT that doesn't mean the FBI didn't completely fuck it all up.

>>533288460
>ask for evidence
>Disgusting government agent.
LOL. no then. just take your word for it i guess.

>>533259215
>ive seen no ex or current member testimony that disputes these things.
>see fellow congregation members get shot to death and have their children burned alive
>I can't imagine why nobody involved would come out and contradict the govt narrative
the day of the rake can't come soon enough.

>>533288719
I would like to know more. Even if its just a theory. For some reason it seems extremely plausible to me.

>koresh finds a run down meth lab on his property or something
>goes to the cops and says there's an old meth lab
>they do nothing about it
>somehow this becomes koresh is a meth dealer
nani the fuck

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>>533258049
>what was Waco about

David Koresh was a weirdo cult leader who thought he was the messiah and the government was evil (he was half right). Clinton's ATF wanted a big feel good publicity story so instead of just arresting Koresh easily when he drove into town (which he did regularly without an escort) they decided they'd bring in a huge force and raid his compound. Predictably the anti government cultists fought back giving the ATF the big news story they wanted. Then the ATF proceeded to completely fuck everything up. They sent in an assault team that got their asses handed to them on live TV. Then they sent in an assault vehicle to punch a hole in the side of the building and dump flash bangs and tear gas inside. This proceeded to light the building on fire. Once the building was on fire the ATF continued to fire on people trying to flee as the surviving cultists testified, the ATF said the cultists started the fire and stayed inside to die. However the front door of the building was lost so there was no evidence and the ATF was excused. Years later the door was found after the trial and it was riddled with bullet holes from the outside proving the ATF killed everyone. Here are the pictures the ATF took posing with their guns over the smoldering remains of 86 people including 28 children.

>>533259247
Was about to make this post lol

>>533258157
>>533258264
>>533258593
>Better off letting donald trump do that and burn all those women and children

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>>533284809
Another poster said Korech's compound was next to a private airport that was trafficking kids and drugs. In the 1980s the Clintons were accused of money laundering, cocaine trafficking, and gun smuggling in Mena Arkansas. Knowing what we do now it's not that unbelievable.

creepy pedo cult leader started stockpiling so many guns the feds became aware- went to see what's up and psycho torched himself and his followers

>>533258157
The sent the feds a pizza. Then the feds visited and let him handle their guns.

>>533267818
possibly thanks to a meeting moot had with epstein in 2011

>>533290976
>went to see what's up
Undercover agents went many times without murdering kids but for some reason those visits failed to result in any proof of wrongdoing. So weird.

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>>533291137
lurk moar

>>533290613
The source is a successor group at the site

>>533258157
>modifying firearms illegally.
it's not constitutionally possible to have an "illegal firearm"

>a theist's emergence.
lol

>>533288387
Janet Reno was a lesbian dyke who barely knew how to do her own job! She was hated in the US militia community, and known as "the butcher of Waco."

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So what if a few religious fanatics got killed

>>533284356
No one said that. But Mcveigh was a glowop. Among several other things, including what anon posted, the Whitewater scandal papers got destroyed. That worked out well for Hillary.

>>533279624
this would never happen today, americans became too much of a niggercattle, fat, weak and retarded.

>>533258677
good thread

I grew up less than 2 miles up the dirt road to the koresh compound. I used to walk there as a kid and explore the burnt out shit and buried buses.

The ATF and FBI murdered a bunch of people and kids who were minding their business living on their land. Sure they were probably up to some weird religious shit. As is their right. Pedophilia? Possibly but no more likely than any other religious group. The branch davidians were well known and thought to be good Christian people by the locals. The smear campaign didn't start until after they all lay dead.

>>533262170
his wife was a retard who sent threats to the government after they refused to show up to court.

>>533258157
Its weird how everyone decided to side with some crazy boy molesting cult church

>>533258049
he was a lot like Trump, a pedophile who led a movement of tradfags except he was Einstein compared to orange Monkey

>>533258049

You can’t start your own cult without approval. Crazy he thought he could get away with it. Or he was part of it and they had to end it for some reason.

>>533291383
actually when you study the records both after and leading up to... you will clearly see it. The ATF was asking the davidians about accusations of illegally full-auto (sear filing) semi auto's. The ATF asked and rceived permission to put recording devices at the edge of the compound. (this shows full auto) and they never did find any illegally converted weapons that way or afterwards. Its just another way they were out to get the "religious kooks" which was how the ATF viewed them.

>>533258264
Shills have been big mad for like a month now

>>533293717
Try not to burn those children to death in your attempts to save them, eh?

>>533258049
just the government letting everyone with a brain know just how immoral they are. Only the biggest retards bought the official narrative

>>533293993
In the late 80s early 90s there were mechanisms being sold at gun shows that simulated full auto like the hellfire system or the triburst one. The ATF recording devices might have mistakenly picked up "full auto" signature from using these devices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7X8vrtluRY