Back row visibly confused about the source of the sweet scent of spores

>>533263390
I never realized until now how jacked Ross actually is. Dude is gonna end up looking like Gandalf trying to pull a Zyzz.

>>533263390
seems like a controlled opposition stupid on purpose thing

>>533266005
It will kill American studios which is very good news for us Europeans.

>>533266154
I don't think you realize half the games he's going after are eu studios. His goal won't change anything and it's actually hilarious that the nigger pirate software was correct. These people have more money than you'll ever touch in your life time. That parliament is already bought off.

>NOOO WE GOTTA PRESERVE LIVE SERVICE SLOP SERVERS
just lol

>>533266409
Swindling is swindling, even if you're being swindled over slop

Stop killing games
Start killing jews

>>533266597
I am interested in hearing more about your policies. Please elaborate!

>>533263390
is he spreading the mold?
will he use the mold to take over the EU?

americans wish they could do something like this
unfortunately for them this is only possible in a a truly free and democratic society like Europe

>>533266409
>NOOO WE GOTTA PRESERVE LIVE SERVICE SLOP SERVERS
Thats not what its about though. Its about leaving it in a state where the players have the tools necessary to spin up a private server so they can play the slop they paid for once the studio gives up on it.
Its really not a hard thing to do. They just have no incentive to do it.

StArt featuring Jews in games as much as they are in video media, so players have the option to kill them more often. Does GTA 6 not have Jews? That would be weird for Florida.

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>>533263390
these are good

>>533268352
Just rewrite your entire networking code goy
Lmfao

>>533271057
>product has built in obsolescence
This is exactly what they are fighting against.

>>533263390
EU gonna do jack shit about it because it's not about gays sodomizing each other nor about serving #2 EU priority sucking off shitskins #1 being sucking off the jewry.

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>>533266597
YES!

>>533266277
>it's actually hilarious that the nigger pirate software was correct
Trip on ferret fucker.

>>533266409
>free speech doesn't mean hate speech :)
ross is the only man who loves games high and low he is right to save every vidya

>>533263390
Yo WTF I skimmed trought the whole thing and aparently the Dutch are stealing our cuties.
Once again the eternal Dutch keeping a portuguese brother down.

>>533263390
So what happens if Stop Killing Games wins? Do we finally get to truly own our games?

Source code exists for the good games and are literally free lmaoing at these ick inducing incels and their slop games seriously go to gym go to barber go to tailor nobody listens to you even if you are right if you look like dogshit ie not intimidating

>>533274468
No one who cares about source code would say "ick inducing incels".

>>533263390
That's my boy Ross! Always fighting the good fight.

Gamers are the most pathetic and entitled losers ever.

>>533274722
Jews will be hunted down and killed

>>533268352
>be company
>build a game for $200M
>have to make a tough decision between laying off a bunch of staff in order to refactor code so 100 gamers can enjoy a game for however long they want
>said gamers can reignite popularity of the game and collect the revenues from doing so on their private server, thus incentivizing the company to not take the 200M gamble in the first place because it would be easy to spin up a story against the billion dollar gaming company handing over their IP to some spoiled brat who thinks that a product should last forever
>cause mass loss of jobs on live service games, inadvertently causing more damage to the industry than almost anything else

There should be no reason a company should have to build, maintain, hire, and employ people to make a game only for someone to come steal the thunder in the end. I'm not saying I agree with everything these companies do, but this is obviously a complete harm against companies and their IP rights.

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>makes 1 bad pull
>leads to a citizens right initiative being heard before Parliament

>>533263390
yall need to go outside and touch grass.

>>533275154
>I'm not saying I agree with everything these companies do
Then why defend the indefensible if you admit they do wrong?

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>>533275223
>suck off five guys
>leads to Khamenei getting bombed

>>533275154
Why do niggers like you always obfuscate what the spore man is asking for

>>533275259
The wrong they do isn't building a product and an IP and using live service to sustain building resources in order to continue to make more games and grow the company, that should never be a point of contention. All you're going to do is either cause companies to stop making live service games, only the biggest of the biggest will be able to put them out, which will put chunks of the smaller companies out of business. Alternatively, you are going to drastically increase the prices of live service games overall, no one is gonna wanna continue to make content for a game to sell skins for cheap, they're going to become highly premium luxury items that will cost far more.

>>533275480
You're lying about the cost of third party software libraries and development costs. This problem was caused by an industry that did not have this problem before.

>>533263390
I know piratesoftware is a retard but he was absolutely right for shitting on this government interventionist movement ran by a pedophile.
For gods sake just look at that creep. Fucked up physiognomy

>>533275431
Why do niggers like you not see how the conclusion of these things ends? Do you think it's just going to stop at make a single player mode? No, it's gonna turn it to a whole operation that's going to wedge the government into the game completely. Which is a completely retarded idea. There's a reason why NFTs don't work, and it's for this exact core reason of revenue generation to sustain a company long term.

>>533275609
These aren't lies, do you really think a companies going to take a gamble on what would otherwise be a very good game? No, they won't, because they will not want to be at the end of a game 10 years later, and cause some bum spent $60 years ago, they're entitled to the full machine to do with whatever they please or have them whine because the industry needs to give him his $60 back after milking 5,000 hours on their game. Almost no product in the history of the world last 5,000 hours that you can still whine and get your money back for.

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>>533275801
>cause some bum spent $60 years ago, they're entitled to the full machine to do with whatever they please or have them whine because the industry needs to give him his $60 back after milking 5,000 hours on their game. Almost no product in the history of the world last 5,000 hours that you can still whine and get your money back for.

>>533275863
>I bought a blender that I got 2,000 smoothies out of but the manufacture forgot to put the infinite blade in it so I should be entitled to my $150 back.

You should take a look in the mirror and ask yourself who the real jew is.

>>533275801
I'd like to hear how updating a couple of lines of code in a couple of files so a game can be played offline leads to the government taking over failing live service slop.

>>533275940
Anon kitchen appliances should last ten years or more. Stop manufacturing planned obsolesce.

>>533275974
Because you'd be handing over source code, you'd be handing over IP that cost 10s of millions of dollars to create, you'd be handing over assets, etc. for someone to do whatever they please. If someone spins up a narrative about evil bad billionaire company, they could incentivize clusters of servers to come back online for revenue generation either via donations or their own payment schemes, and the legal battles would be nearly impossible for a company to take on and would be an infinite negative PR story for the gaming industry, which is an awful idea.

>>533266597
Now THIS is a slogan I can get behind.

>>533263390
Ross is a cool dude. One of the few Youtubers that stayed himself from day 1. Authenticity is the currency of the future

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>>533276021
If you spent $150 on a blender and got 2,000 smoothies out of it, you spent $0.0075 per smoothie. That is in an outstanding exchange of value and you'd be an absolute faggot retard to believe it to be otherwise.

>>533276078
Pay a tranny 50 hours to make the game playable in offline mode. It's not lost technology nigger and no source code releasing is needed.

>>533276160
2,000 smoothies at a smoothie a day is only 5 years of smoothies. That's less than the expected lifespan. That's 2,000 more smoothies I could have have.

>>533276137
Private companies can make their own decisions to let you decide if you should be able to host your own games. Support those companies with your dollars if that's what you want.

>>533276189
You do realize if the servers go down, they're gonna have to pack that into software that you then download and can unpack and own yourself, correct?

>>533276295
>vote with your wallet faggot
Off my board.

>>533276287
Then you should have bought the $500 smoothie machine instead of complaining that you got a more affordable option.

>>533276337
>$500 kitchen appliance
nigger that's the price of a kitchen range. I'd expect the smoothie machine to give my blowjobs and fold my laundry at that price.

>>533276332
>wahhh wahhh I need the government to hold my hand so I can spend another 5,000 hours on a game because I should be entitled to have access to it forever, wahhhh

This is /pol/ not r/socialism, see yourself out ledditor

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idk man i googled it to learn more and it sounds pretty shitty
an expert on the matter weighed in and i'll believe him over some eu hillbilly

>>533276430
>you lived to see /pol/ defend you vill own nothing

>>533276078
You seem to have a very poor understanding of what you are talking about and are arguing from a point of bad faith where one person deserves to be paid perpetually for something despite this not being the norm for 99.9% of people.

>>533276407
What's my incentive to keep making $150 blenders then? I lose my incentive, I'd rather go back, increase my $500 blender price and make $900 blenders then at that point, thus pricing a large majority of people out from ever owning it because it doesn't make economical sense on the risk basis of the lower class buying audience that's looking to exploit me.

>>533276295
>You do realize if the servers go down, they're gonna have to pack that into software that you then download and can unpack and own yourself, correct?

Like every single player game ever? Yes stupid nigger.

>>533276430
Its fucking insane that anyone, aside from the literal fag in this thread, could take stop killing games serious.
Big government bullshit.

>>533276536
>perpetually forever
Live service games don't have subscriptions anymore almost at all, for this very reason. If you'd like subscription based games to return to being the norm, congratulations, you will now create the environment for that to happen.

>>533275940
But thats not even close to a reasonable analogy. Its more like
>they sold a blender with an infinite sharp blade, and then after a few years for no reason they came round my house and took a pair of scissors to the power supply so no it doesn't work.

Except a physical item isn't being sold. The product is a copy of code, an intellectual property which depends on a other code running and a live connection to that for the product to exist.

This is clearly an inorganic industry theatre though to excuse the apparent failures of a number of disfunctional trad aaa outfits that woked themselves into bankruptcy and will lead to advertising and description rules.

>>533277281
Why do you need government legislation forcing companies to support online games in eternity.
Oh wait Im fucking stupid since I asked the faggot anon that has to give big daddy government his ID to watch porn.

>>533275154
> If rich company can't have it no one can, worry not rich company I'm here to defend you.
What a faggot.

>>533277281
>You're not selling a physical item
On the contrary, code is physical, it transfers in bits via your RAM, VRAM, CPU, SSD, and all the other components in your PC. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't a tangible thing, it's literally information, and we're the lucky benefactors that this information has an incredible lifespan. You're almost making an argument that a game should be an add on to your hardware, and when your hardware expires, that's when the access to these games should expire. You'd essentially be insiting in some type of format in which NVIDIA is picking up the bill for the gaming industry in someway.

>>533277612
You can hate the rich, but do you have the courage to hate the poor?

>>533277546
>forcing companies to support online games in eternity.
That's not what the campaign is asking for.
>>533277619
>we're the lucky benefactors that this information has an incredible lifespan
((()))

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This initiative is a peak low IQ entitlement issue.

Ross stans keep delusionally screech about the initiative surely not even coming close to touching the intellectual property rights.
>First speaker of parliament absolutely BTFO of this sentiment, in his first address.

Retarded American populist e-celeb stans in SHAMBLES

>>533275154
Fuck em. IP rights have gone way too far anyways.

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Of all the sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these "Thor was right again."

>>533277619
There you go obfuscating again dumb nigger.

>>533277672
Asking the rich to lose nothing so the people who made them rich can continue to enjoy the product is not hating them, anon.
I actually do not hate the rich, first time I get accused with this. I argue they lose nothing by not ruining the product they sold to people that made them rich. That's all.
Like sure the bum gets some money for running the private servers. Has the company lost anything at all? Look at trickster online. Original company is gone. Private server exists, and is monetized. Original company is losing nothing.

People wouldn't give a shit about old games if new games were fun to play.

>>533277858
Based ferret fucker.
The whole WOW saga was funny as hell. Fuckign nerds getting enraged due to dying on a videogame.
Ane he is correct here too, SKG will destroy competition and overregulate the market.

Burgertards itt proving why they are such a cut throat low trust society.

>>533277881
It's not obfuscating, it's the truth. It goes back to the blender argument, what is my incentive to create for lower class gamers if it's not some type of way to have my product be developed for ludicrous amounts of money only for the poors to take it? Do you not understand the precedent this sets? It would literally cause gamers to spin up hate vendettas against these companies, which would cause them to already have drastically lower sales for the things they need to continue to operate the game and add new content, and the gamers would simply tell others not to play until the service has to shut down, wait for someone to grab a copy of their own, and go take it and host it themselves. This is assuming as well that a company wouldn't just go hire a bunch of phillipinos for $1 an hour to make the game seem like it has a player base, and then it wouldn't even matter, because they could just retcon the updates over time, and finally when the game is in a deadstate from a software perspective from removal of content, you'll get the original base game with almost none of the content anyway. There's probably a million ways around this stupid initiative as well, these are assuming that Ross would want to do things like have a regulation to determine when a game is dead, if a company is allowed to remove content, and other important factors that would drastically change how a game fundamentally operates. This pandora's box is for fucking retards, and in it's worse case is a complete disaster for the gaming industry as a whole.

>>533266597
Basado

Somehow /v/ has better discussions of this than /pol/. Reddit should have never been allowed here.

>>533266277
>That parliament is already bought off.
The SKG ECI actually has the near-unanimous support of the Parliament. They already had cooperation of the Parliament back when they didn't even have the requisite signatories yet. Hell- they had the support of the Parliament even before the ECI was a thing. The Parliament mounted several parliamentary questions to the Commission on SKG's behalf, back in 2024.

It's only the Commission which is somehow giving push back - which isn't too surprising. They want to avoid having to draft any new legislation, because that's more work for them. One of the reasons they're using the argument of looking at stronger enforcement through existing legislative packages. Ultimately- that might actually play to consumers' favor though. Because if it becomes an enforcement issue, then what the industry has been doing up 'til now has already been illegal and consumers already have legal recourse stretching back potentially decades.

And aside from that: the Commission's wiles are in reality a non-factor, because the Parliament has the legal power to *order* the Commission to come up with a suitable solution; and to dismiss any they do not find suitable.

>>533263390
Man that guy who worked at blizzard with his dad is going to be really mad about this.

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>>533275801
>Why do niggers like you not see how the conclusion of these things ends?

Because low IQ "people" with neither the skill nor the creative vision to create anything of value in their lifetimes, tend not to concern themselves with nothing more than what to consume next. These retards have been paying to eat populist slop, from their favorite content creators, for the past few years.

Have faith. They're basically asking the EU Parliament to gimp products that are in essence a tax on wealthy idle and mindless consumers.

>>533277962
>Asking the rich to lose nothing
>Original company is gone
If a company has decided it literally doesn't care anymore, that's their decision to make. Forcing a company to allow people to potentially profit off their own IPs from their development and money the spent on it because someone wants to spend another 5,000 hours on a video game, and have the additional potential to make $100,000s of dollars they did nothing for is exactly asking the rich to do something for them. You're creating an environment for infinite bad PR, less games, less investment in the industry, all because someone is unhappy with the thousands of hours they dropped on a game and want to still be able to drop another 1,000 hours on it. It makes 0 sense, and again, in the worst case scenario, we would cause a far greater loss of jobs in the gaming sector, and significantly limit the ability for people to be let into an already difficult industry.

>>533267215
SKG is starting an official political lobby movement in the US.
Ondruska, the guy behind the EU ECI, actually flew over to the US to talk to its organizers multiple times already and help them piece things together.
He's also let shine through that they've found financial backing off of an anonymous benefactor who is apparently, LOADED AS FUCK.

Aka if this comes to a legal battle, the games industry in the US might've actually finally found their match.

>>533278213
>spic thinks government overreach isnt outright stupid on its face and tries to big up fucking /v/ of all places for wasting time arguing about it
Total Paco Death

>>533278171
A company would need to fuck up extremely badly for this to happen. Among the games that do get continuation by the community, there are almost none that become better after the company fails. They usually become playable, but infested with hackers, freshness going down with no new content, and changes that the players do that are many times hit or miss (increasing XP gain and drop rates and stuff like that).
I don't see an epidemic of gamers wanting this for every game. Company needs to fuck up massively for this to be preferable outcome.

>>533276295
>You do realize if the servers go down, they're gonna have to pack that into software that you then download and can unpack and own yourself, correct?

The only people who say shit like this are so ignorant of this topic, they shouldn't even be discussing it. Yes, anyone with a brain knows how this works.

>>533274454
SKG just wants publishers to not put stuff into games that effectively constitutes a remote kill switch, making it impossible to continue playing the game once they pull support. The question of actual ownership - as in ownership of a copy of a game - is raised by French consumer organization Que Choisir, as a core part of the arguments presented in the court case they started in France in joint coordination with SKG.

>>533278171
Pay a tranny to make a single player patch and protect ubislop's 1 trillion dollar IP it's that simple

>>533274722
No. That's Donald Trump. The only loser so self-entitled, he believes his level of self-entitlement entitles him to be in a top-level platinum-class of self-entitlement all his own.

>>533275223
Hilarious, ain't it?
Truth is stranger than fiction.

>>533266005
>>533266154
>>533266277
Jason hall using the pedo proxy

>>533278781
You are a TDS troon. The fact you are so gungho about SKG speaks massively against the whole shit.

>>533275154
>in order to refactor code
The SKG initiative is specifically asking for any legislation or enforcement to NOT apply retroactively.
Refactoring existing game code to fit requirements of changing legislation thus is not a scenario they are asking for either.
Stop drinking PirateSoftware's AIDS-infected koolaid.

>>533278440
> the additional potential to make $100,000s of dollars they did nothing for
They also provide a service anon.
All your other points are not even worth answering to, because they also do nothing to counter my argument, that the og company loses nothing by doing this, and you just regurgitate the same stupid arguments about gamers driving developers into destroying the games like that's a good outcome for them.

>>533278615
>He really thinks there's no way someone would figure out how to do this given the significantly lowered constraints for server information access

So a company is gonna have to spend 100,000s each year so that way a server can still be alive to protect this information from getting out? Assuming this happens to 10 games, that can be upwards of 12 million dollars a year. 12 million dollars a year is 100 jobs to make better and new games. I'm much more inclined to protect those 100 job seekers that provide value rather than a mindless gooner that believes they're entitled to everything.

>>533278655
Or accept that your game had a good 10 year run, acknowledge the points I made above, close up shop and move on to the next and let some indie dev make their own non-live service game that takes from the concepts of my game and go make their own money fair and square with their own IP.

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>>533263390
Heeeeeeeey~
Welcome to the game dungeon
You know israel sure is a mysterious place, I mean they have ancient archaeological enigmas, spiritual and theological paradoxes, and modern cultural oddities. But did you know that they actually control the world?
Yep, its true.

>>533278918
But that's where you're wrong because of the infinite bad PR. What's stopping someone from starting a hate campaign, boycotting the game, and sending it straight to 0 before the game can even get off the ground? That hate campaign will last for as long as the game is out to create this environment in order for people to get a hold of these games, which is an infinite bad PR machine for every company.

>>533278924
>accept that your game had a good 10 year run
At least you finally arrived at what the spore man is asking for while doing your best to avoid it. No I will not accept that.

>>533266409
No, he's talking about owning what you fucking buy.

>>533279052
You will accept it, because the initiative is going to 0, because you are not entitled to a refund after 10 years, no product in human history has a 10 year refund period

>>533274261
>aparently the Dutch are stealing our cuties.
The only thing mentioned about the Dutch is how any product sold in the Netherlands imposes lasting, eternal liability on the trader for any unreasonable defects the product might ever experience. And yes- that's actually the case here. If a ball bearing that should be rated for 20+ years use breaks down inside my 10 year old washing machine, I get that fixed free of charge. Those are my actual legal rights. And those are actually complied with. And no- companies are NOT going broke because of it. Because ultimately, it doesn't happen enough for their bottom line to be seriously affected by it.

Except of course if you're dealing with a parasitical industry such as the triple-A gaming sector, which can only exist and be profitable because they engage in actively consumer-hostile practices. So: fuck 'em. Roast 'em over the open fire. They deserve it. EA and Ubisoft first in line - k thx bye.

>>533279145
>no product in human history has a 10 year refund period
:: buzzer :: WRONG!
>>533279220

>>533279145
>you will accept it and own nothing goy
lol disingenuous nigger now spin up some more tranny babble

>>533279045
Common fucking sense stops them, I'm sorry you lack that so you don't see it.
Address this point I've made here nigger -> >>533278578

>>533278350
Boy, did he ever pick the wrong hill to battle and die on- right?

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>"And u-uuh, I'm sure you will be impressed to know that some video games attracts girls even more than men to participate..."

So this is the power of stop killing game advocates... Yea I'm thinking it's dead in the water.

>>533278974
This dude fuck kids.
Look at him.
How does anyone take him seriously.

>>533279259
>Hi everyone, we're announcing that our new game will not be available in European territories, thanks!

Whomp whomp whomp. So sad to see socialist eurocucks go, oh well. Not like Europe produces anything meaningful anyway

>>533278870
>TDS
The one with derangement syndrome is Trump himself. You fuckers should invoke the 25th on him already and get it over with, before he fucks over the US in actually wholy irrepairable ways. Otherwise: enjoy your next est. 30~35 years of solitutde on the international stage. (But hey- good moment to invest in oil refineries capable of actually refining that sulfur-heavy Venezuelan oil, right?)

>>533279426
Hahaha yea like anyone would just leave that market on the table because they don't want to lose nothing and implement a cheap end of life service.
I'll take that risk anon, thanks for your concern.

>>533278578
>A company would need to fuck up extremely bad for this to happen

Games die, look at Maplestory 2, look at FLYFF, look at DFO, Tankwars, these are all games that died because the players stopped showing up. They don't need to be available anymore, because they're over. The companies didn't do anything other than not have the capability to grow a playerbase in a territory. Because of that, should someone be able to then take that game (Free to play), and own it, and make their own versions with their IP on a much grander scale simply because a company needs to fuck up greatly? No, they shouldn't. This is not a feasible argument.

>>533279426
You do realize that the EU represents ~50% of the videogames market taken in net profits rather than shipped volumes (because Europeans pay a premium price in excess of Asian and US prices) right? There isn't a single major publisher in the AAA industry who would be allowed by their shareholders to exit from the EU without the board firing the CEO within the minute.

>>533276559
>What's my incentive to keep making $150 blenders then?
You either compete on selling devices that last 10y or you sell nothing. The devices also will not be electrically dangerous or poisonous or other bullshit.

Because society isn't going to deal with insane amounts of avoidable trash, electrical shocks or poisonings for you.

$150 is not fixed on the other hand. The lowest price will be determined by capitalism with protection against monopolies.

>>533279657
You do realize that 44% of that revenue is for mobile games, yeah? You think Apple is gonna give a shit about accompanying the EU to let you play a mobile live service game on your phone forever? There comes a point where that 20 billion dollar hit is worth it for an industry, and it might come sooner than later.

>>533279426
In a universe where retarded asmongoloid watchers could convince EU parliament to approve of the bongwater arguments of the initiative. One could only hope that publishers of the biggest AAA slop and GAAS-shite titles, would have enough backbone to simply starve EU tards of their favorite thing to consoom.

>>533279736
On the contrary, society likes that they can buy a toaster they can get 2,000 uses out of for $30, and they'll do it again and again. They don't want to maintain a machine for 10 years, they'll use it til it breaks and moves on. That's it.

>>533279642
Oh my god you are actually incapable of following a conversation.
You argued that players will start campaigns to shut the games down inorganically.
I argued that since private server experiences don't tend to be better than the original counterpart, the company needs to fuck up extremely badly for players to prefer that grim fate (shit server is only preferable over nothing).
What exactly do you think listing examples that don't involve players starting hate campaigns for premature closing to achive here?

>>533279426
>Not like Europe produces anything meaningful anyway
How about the chip fabs used to create the microchips that allow you to run those games, ey?
Actually; a European company has the monopoly on the technology.
A *Dutch* company I might add.
Which mean if push comes to shove, the Dutch could pull off the power-move of the century and invoke the same legislation they used before against the Chinese concerning Nexperia, to keep said company in the Netherlands and not allow them to move shop - effectively holding the ability to support modern computing hostage for the world.

Does that constitute 'meaningful' for you, you fat greasy Burger-fuck?

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>>533263390
Can you imagine how out of touch the guy is to say
>muh vidja games cannot le play
whereas hundred boomers around are on the verge of lmaoing him off the hall because they have more important things to discuss than toys

>>533266154
only AAA studios do this kind of shit and most gamers couldn't care less if they all went under.

>>533279890
What I'm saying is that you're not entitled in either case. End of story. You don't get to own the million dollar code base and force a company to host the million dollar download window because you can't play a game anymore.

>>533279929
>Chip factory
>Forgets Taiwan exist

Argument thrown out.

>>533279929
>not allow them to move shop
How you retarded faggot. The chip fabs are already in Taiwan. You want to antogonise those chinks go ahead and watch their corrupt politicians and businessmen become closer to China

>>533279790
>You do realize that 44% of that revenue is for mobile games, yeah?
That 50% metric isn't counting the mobile market. Just the game-console and PC market. If we'd count also the mobile market, then iirc it would be 60% net global profit from the EU. Also, the EU is 80% Android users - i.e. raising Apple as a brand name is not relevant here. Educate yourself.

>>533280114
>Now mobile games have to adapt to

I brought a point up earlier about how it doesn't just stop at live service PC games. It won't just stop at one regulation. I'd adjust your peripherals and understand that inviting the government into your hobby is the same as inviting a homosexual into your bed, you're just begging to get aids.

>EU makes 50% of game sales

This is just not true either straight up lol.

>>533280029
>What I'm saying is that you're not entitled in either case.
No one fucking cares what you say, you aren't in the EU parliament, you aren't going to decide this.
All I care about is that your arguments are toothless by your own admission. You are just too stubborn to admit you are a dumbfuck and this will not incentivize gamers to fuck over developers.

>>533279145
>>533279259
My psu had a 10 year warranty.
Asus rog strix 850w gold

>>533276295
>Companies make their own decision. Support woth your wallet.
Yeah, nah. The law will force them to do that for us.

>>533280029
>Forgets Taiwan exist
TSMC buys their chip fabs from this Dutch company, ASML.

>>533280104
>The chip fabs are already in Taiwan.
Those same chip fabs need regular on-site maintenance to remain in a functioning state. ASML flies out technicians on the regular. A chip fab won't remaining in operable state for more than 2~3 months without maintenance. These machines require retarded levels of mechanical precision, there is basically near-zero tolerance or margin for error from e.g. mechanical wear.

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>>533279145
>>533279259
Forgot pic

>>533280303
FWIW - I also still have a bunch of WD-Red drives that come with lifetime warranty.
And I do mean actual human lifetime, not the watered down "at best 5 years" you'd get in the backwater anti-consumer hell-hole called the US-of-A.

>>533274561
Lose the weight you fat queer

>>533271057
Theoretically they wouldn't even need to do that.
Just let the server software out into the wild like NCSoft eventually elected to do with City of Heroes so modders can set up their own private homegrown servers. Just pass a law that at bare minimum requires companies to let that out if they ever decide to shut down the official service.

>>533279373
thats a woman from the EU commission, not someone from the initiative

>>533280002
4channel will shit and piss but this is the reality right here throw autistic retards into incerators nobody gives a shit about any entertainment post 2010 imagine looking like shit groveling at the feet of eu kikes in the current year because muh tranny slop wont start literally emulate any console for zero dollars LOSE THE WEIGHT YOU FAT QUEER

>>533275154
I bought it nigger.

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>>533280747
>thats a woman from the EU commission, not someone from the initiative
I know and that's exactly my point. This is the level of EU commission member that spoke FOR the initiative. And to add insult to injury, she stepped in place of another member who didn't even want to show their face lmfao.

The average EU parliamentarians are not quite as low IQ as entitled populist TikTok and asmongoloid twitch stream watchers.

These and Ross' arguments are obviously fucking retarded in the face of messing with the protection of EU intellectual property rights and tax revenue streams. And thank fuck for that.

>>533280415
Based

>>533275154
>Intellectual property.
This whole post is nothing but shilling, how are you going to act like its anything but?
>b-but muh company spent all this money doing xyz
And? How exactly does this entitle them to anything beyond the initial transactions from when they were selling the game?

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>>533281821
>"Communism is good when it tells me that I'm entitled to the work of the people that created my favorite AAA slop and microtransaction slop services."

kys ywnbaw

>>533280415
Computer RAM often had lifetime warranties too. I had a 2016 stick replaced in 2022 when it died and the process was painless. Not sure what it's like now with datacenters buying out all the production.

>>533282105
I'm going to support a law that stops retards with no self control from ruining my hobby and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

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>>533275367
yes but Trump wasn't supposed to do it! now I have to hate liberating women because I have to hate everything Trump does!

>>533282105
>Communism
Nigger what? This has nothing to do with Communism, are we quite literally seizing their compilers, taking their code and erasing their code off their servers? No? Then there's nothing here that remotely resembles communism, you mentally handicapped ape.

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>>533282264
>My hobby is "playing" AAA slop and purchasing microtransaction, when thousands of games exist without these problems.

Don't forget to buy this months season pass goy.

>>533263390
i think the initiative in itself is kinda retarded, but it is pretty damn based that such citizen's initiatives go all the way to the parliament. i hope this will lead to this mechanism gaining more popularity with initiatives that actually matter being brought forth in greater numbers.

>>533282264
>retards with no self control
you mean the manchild gaymers who want to play live service garbage forever and ever so the devs should write their netcode in such a way that it runs both on proprietary servers or third party vendors and also timmy's basement?

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>>533282530
>Burgoid
>"we"
LOL
Furthermore, you're correct in that there will be no seizure of any property, by low IQ mongoloid such as yourself, INCLUDING intellectual property.

>>533263390
The biggest problem of our generation... video games

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>>533280002
>whereas hundred boomers around are on the verge of lmaoing him off the hall because they have more important things to discuss than toys
Most of the boomers agreed with him because they have kids / grandkids who play games and never realized that the shit loads of cash they dump into Fortnite for them can just go away.

>>533282905
What is up with everyone on the anti-skg side of things being utterly retarded? You can post all the smug anime girls and laughing cats, it doesn't change how silly your arguments are.
>Furthermore, you're correct in that there will be no seizure of any property, by low IQ mongoloid such as yourself, INCLUDING intellectual property.
Intellectual property is not real anon lmao. It gets 'stolen' every fucking day, there's a whole fucking board on this site dedicated to 'stealing' intellectual 'property', it happens everyday and the overwhelming vast majority of people get away with it for the simple reason that IP laws are both retarded and practically unenforceable.
>B-but I wrote this and worked hard, y-you shouldn't run your own servers with my code :(
Tough shit faggot.

>>533275801
His whole premise is to set a standard for NEW games. Or let gamers do it themselves without legal consequences for existing ones.

WTF does the IP matter if they've switched it off, anyway?

And for new ones, just don't pajeet it, and don't build in a fucking killswitch. Simple.

the EU doesn't want to handicap its video game industry, one of the few growing indsutries where the EU can compete with the US. nothing's gonna come of this.

>>533283701
>EU doesn't want to handicap its video game industry
can you elaborate, how does this kill its video game industry? and what is the counter argument for why it doesn't? isn't this just an initiative to give the users who purchased the online game the capability of continuing its service if the developers decide to terminate their service?

>>533271057
Jews, famous for forcing companies to be more consumer friendly

>>533283701
Handicap, how?
Stop chanting piratefaggotsoftware's misunderstood argument.

The whole Stop Killing Games thing is Stop KILLING games. As in don't go out of their way to kill or switch them off.

Either take into account longevity (at least not planning in killswitches) during design, and if they're going to kill something off anyway then don't legalfaggot the IP and let volunteers keep it running.

The effort from the devs is basically zero. In-fact it's LESS effort, since currently the effort is spent in building in killswitches and killing things off, after taking someone's money.

The movement isn't "Start Preserving Games", it's "Stop KILLING" them. Stop doing that action that stops gamers continuing to play them, just because the dev cba to support it anymore. And then don't hoard the IP / source after it's killed off, and instead let volunteers do their thing.

If it's already dead, the latter shouldn't be a problem.

So many games just "die" sometimes only after a few weeks. There's no reason that people should have to pay for a product, then have it forcibly taken away from them.

>>533281288
>These and Ross' arguments are obviously fucking retarded in the face of messing with the protection of EU intellectual property rights and tax revenue streams. And thank fuck for that.
Literally the only person in Parliament raising any counter-argument against the SKG campaign, was Alex Voss - and he's a known tech-sector insurgent who is also active trying (and sofar failing) to disembowel the GDPR because according to him it hurts the EU establishing its own tech industry on par with the US's.

(GOOD! It *should* fail to attempt in creating something as consumer-abusing as that! That's the FUCKING POINT.)

>>533285430
But what about muh heckin stock marketino? Think of the shareholders. A billion consumer lives are not worth the fingernail of a single shareholder

>>533267215
to americans, "freedom" means the ability to exploit poor people. Thats why Americans can put stuff in their food that is illegal everywhere else.
Corporate profits above all, even bringing awareness to something bad is seen as unfair to the owners of business

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>>533285430
>Literally the only person in Parliament raising any counter-argument against the SKG campaign...

Correct, this shit was the most useless 72 minutes of boomers going "Aww, how super heckin' cool that you guys got so many signatures! Good job! Also my kids play video games haha!"
And pic related catering to autistic redditor by going: "I'm a gamer! The cake is a lie! And I took an arrow to the knee XD"

Notice that the two times the questions regarding what possible and concrete proposals for actions to be taken were, no concrete answers were given. Just more vapid boomers feigning interest.

>>533286423
But there's no profit in a game they've already killed, that's why it's so stupid.

He's just asking them to stop doing it, lol.
It's not a big deal to give away the source for the networking services if they've already completely cancelled it.

Or just NOT take an intentional action (legal or technical) to specifically kill something off. (not support it forever, just don't stop it BEING supportable).

The current situation is just pure spite.