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When will Putin finally end the fucking special military operation? I can't even afford a good PC anymore for fuck's sake! RTX 5090 costs 2-3 times the MSRP, and that's not even accounting for the fact that it's very difficult to earn as much as Americans do in Russia. Any good PC costs like 4x the average monthly salary. I'm tired of this bullshit!
Anons, what are you genuine predictions regarding when the war will end and when Putin loses power in one way or another?
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>>533265877
What do you mean? I don't believe either of the sides will make any significant progress at all, regardless of any funding or whatever. The question is when will Putin die, resign, be removed, or simply change his mind for whatever reason
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>>533265877
Hasn’t it been enough care for Ukraine in 5 years? There will be no one left soon.
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>>533266258
yes, putins resignation/ death is also a possible end. so it is either him or trump dying/ resigning, whatever happens first. but neither of these boomers will change their mind about it, as to avoid losing face.
>>533266425
it's not up to me to decide
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>>533266258
But what progress. It literally depends on when hohols will understand that they are fucked and were used like a dumb whore. There will be obviously no EU and no money for them if they don't spend it to fight Russia, its was never even planned. They will change side and fuck up Poland in retaliation at some point. The most probable scenario.
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>>533266258
Jewtin is young man...can still live 20 years or more.
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>>533266658
Trump actually went pretty far to force a peace deal.
The fundemental problem is that neither Ukraine nor Russia are interested in peace because they are fundementally opposed to each of their core demands.
I doubt any other US president will be able to get around that fact.
We'll just gonna have to let these stupid chimps keep beating each others bloody for a few more years until they decide enough is enough.
Personally I believe this war will end with a 'temporary' ceasefire which then devolves into a permanent stalemate kinda like Korea where both sides taunt each others with light skirmishes and threats for 50 years until an official peace is signed.
>>533265553
Well you could always get Alexei Navalny instead... oh wait.
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>>533266658
>as to avoid losing face
Russia is a country in which the president can just say on TV that all goals of the special military operation have been achieved (without naming them) and that Russia has won, and almost no normalfag will question it, or perhaps some of them will think for a few minutes about how it doesn't seem to make sense, and then think "well anyway, I'm glad it's over" and then forget about it all. Normalfags rarely ever think about accountability for the government for more than 15 minutes and then forget about it quickly. Or at least that's what I believe, maybe I'm wrong.
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>>533267068
> Personally I believe this war will end with a 'temporary' ceasefire which then devolves into a permanent stalemate kinda like Korea where both sides taunt each others with light skirmishes and threats for 50 years
and who gives money to Ukraine for 50 years? The problem is when the war stops Ukraine will immediately get abandoned and completely in debt. So Europeans want just to make sure everyone will die there not to have any chimp outs later on.
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>>533267107
Well I'm not necessarily buying an RTX 5090 of course, but the prices for it are fucking insane. In DNS, the cheapest 5090 costs 389 999 RUB ($5106) and in Citilink it's 415 990 RUB ($5446). The MSRP of a 5090 is $1999, it's incredibly overpriced in Russia.
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>>533267328
I'm more inclined to believe that EU will write off any debt to Ukraine and start making deals for a soft intergration into the EU (without an official membership as to not to spur Russia into action).
EU is more interested in simply getting Ukraine on their playing field because Ukraine is huge with a lot of potential if propped up like we'd done with Poland etc.
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>>533267489
imagine Bulgaria just 5 times bigger with half of the population with PTSD and hitler tatoos on the back and half right away without limbs owning money to the whole world. Have fun, just give back russian speaking parts.
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>>533267398
And what is the connection with the war in Ukraine?
The war in Ukraine did not cause a shortage of chips on the market because of AI shenanigans, a topic that you need to study, which caused the price of ALL technology to rise.
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>>533265553
>When will Putin finally end the fucking special military operation?
When the west allows him to keep the Donbas, and fulfills the wishes of the Ukrainian people who have always yearned for union with the fatherland
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>>533267808
why conquer if they decided to join on referendum? The Ukrainian army “defending” them actually speak another language. I would say they just use locals as meatshield not allowing to escape those last two cities and call such strategy a fortress defending the west.
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>>533265553
Don't worry, my little vatnik, you'll get to play the new call of duty on a platform called "real life"
Pros
>ultra-realistic graphics and sounds
>extremely immersive gameplay
Cons:
>difficulty is always set to nightmare
>permadeath is always active
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>>533267634
>imagine Bulgaria just 5 times bigger
Doesnt matter. Ukraine is extremely rich and with a large population. It's a long-term investment that will strengthen EU geopolitical and economic sphere if done right.
>just give back russian speaking parts.
If this was Russias only demand then the war would have been over a long time ago because Ukraine has said they are prepared to release territory in exchange for peace.
Ukraine demands for peace are security guarantees, for example by officially joining NATO, something which Russia objects to.
Without security guarantees, Ukraine feels they'd rather continue to fight than signing a peace that leaves them in a weaker position than they're currently in, and can be treated as a scrap of paper by Russia, broken at any time.
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>>533267084
maybe losing face is the wrong term. but it all just seems like a thing of pride to me, the boomer "who wants to go down in history books for having achieved something" as his time on earth is running out
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>>533267862
I know that there's a shortage right now, but if the war was never started perhaps the currency exchange rate wouldn't be so shitty right now, it wasn't as bad as it was now, except during covid, shit would actually still be sold in Russia officially, international orders would be easier. QoL is a lot worse now than it was before the 2022 special military operation.
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The longer it goes on the worse he will look if he pulls out, he's basically fucked.
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>>533267985
You know what you're arguing for now?
You're arguing for that every single country with a Russian minority should expell these people immediately since they are not actually reliable citizens and a literal threat to state sovreignty.
Estonia for example has a 20% of its population being Russian.
Careful how you frame your arguments next time.
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>>533265553
PC part prices are getting worse across the board. I started looking into a new build last year around thanksgiving. I held out since my current of plays everything fine. I have been looking at the process though consistently that whole time and everything is going up incrementally. Most recently I saw a rise in the price of motherboards. A pc that was Pyle have cost 1700 usd to build last year now costs about 2200 - 2300 usd.
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>>533265553
>When
Never, your homo sovieticus boomers burned your future and showed the ashes in their krokodil shot, sanctions are never coming off, get used to it, North Koreanization is your life now until the day you die, Putin is already grooming the next generation to be the same homo sovieticus subhumans like his generation is, you are permanently fucked. Enjoy.
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>>533266258
Ukraine has sloped down in population tremendously. 50% cut on 1500km2 of the battlefield is an unseen result for the whole history of mankind. Soviet union saw 14% cut and the demographic crisis has a huge impact nowadays.
If you stop slurping the western military propaganda that focuses only on 1 facet of the system - territory, leaving out population, economy, and perspective of waging the war, you will realise how BIGLY putin has won and it's a matter of time to crack the whole ukraine down.
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>>533266701
another zigger sexual fantasy.
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>>533268045
Russia was already female-dominated even before the war because the men drink themselves to death or do stupid shit like climbing construction cranes or taking selfies with wild animals.
Russia was traditionally the place where Swedish men imported wives, until Thailand became mainstream.
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20 years.
Vietnam was the blueprint for modern war.
Gotta get those war contracts paid out.
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>>533268075
>Ukraine has said they are prepared to release territory in exchange for peace.
You can always tell the retarded nafo troons shills here. Zelensky demands all territory prior to 2014 back ,you piece of shit.
Show one source where Zelensky said he will give up one inch of territory he is pretending is still his.
Which has been the ONLY obstical to peace since 2014.
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>>533265553
>RTX 5090 costs 2-3 times the MSRP
the cheapest 5090 in EU is 3500 euros right now
you won't find this card at MSRP anywhere, except Founders Edition sold directly by Nvidia whose drops get sniped out in seconds
>When will Putin finally end the fucking special military operation?
when objectives will be achieved, which can happen in months after the collective West stops the proxy war with Russia
>Anons, what are you genuine predictions regarding when the war will end and when Putin loses power in one way or another?
it's not about Putin, dumbass
it's about collective West under control of anglosaxons (US and UK) seeking to destroy Russia, first using Ukrainian cannon fodder, then later European
it's about Russia's long-term security objectives, the future, and survival, which your little consumerist mind doesn't understand yet
all of Russia's elites realize this, so whoever will replace him will continue his path, and Putin will seem as dove of peace in comparison
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>>533266425
>Ukraine now has 28.7 million people in it
>Half of those are men probably, 15mill men
>10 of them are fighting age probably
>Common number for Ukrainian casualties are 500,000
If they are just gonna go trough the whole male population its gonna take a while..
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>>533268183
Referendum was done after 10 years of negotiation and many proposed compromises signed by Ukrainians and guaranteed by UE. Nothing was upheld, every agreement was broken. The west supported obvious discrimination of russian population just to piss off Putin. So i guess the goal was achieved.
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>>533265553
I don't see any end, desu. The relations between Russia and the EU before the war were better for everyone involved except the USA, but sadly that ship has sailed for the foreseeable future. Ukraine should have been a neutral buffer state.
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>>533269828
It would have been much better for Russia's long term security if Putin actually modernized the army, reinforced the borders, troll Europe via Belarus and not step into the trap the Americans laid for him.
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>>533268397
>territory, leaving out population, economy, and perspective of waging the war, you will realise how BIGLY putin has won and it's a matter of time to crack the whole ukraine down.
the problem is it isn't Ukraine Russia is up against
and it is clear that the puppeteers that are using Ukraine now are preparing next echelons in Europe
I expect major escalation, simply because Russia won't tolerate these drone attacks for too long, the main suppliers of which are in Europe, and who recently at minimum allowed their territory to be used to strike Russia near Petersburg or even launched drones from there
only the fear of the main puppeteers can stop these wars, fear that they might lose everything during their yet another crusade against Russia using other countries' citizens and territory
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>>533271631
>into the trap the Americans laid for him.
they made this "trap" not only inevitable for Russia, but existential
Putin had no other choice
the only mistake he did, albeit a big one, is not doing this earlier, around 2018-2019
but he himself admitted it
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>>533265553
If your main problem is PC parts being expensive then you are not getting it regardless of the war ending. AI companies will continue buying up hardware for their datacenters even after the bubble pops, because they will just inflate another bubble.
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>>533272021
>If your main problem is PC parts being expensive
Of course not, I also would prefer to be able to pay internationally, not live in a country where unusually retarded laws are being passed all the time
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>2015-16
no, that was bad time for a good number of reasons:
1. China used to be pro-West, Xi only recently came to power (2013), and China was weaker back then. There was no guarantees that it would stay neutral, let alone help Russia
2. most importantly, Nord Stream's alternative to China wasn't made yet. If West imposed all out sanctions back then and destroyed Nord Streams, Russia's economy would collapse 100%
3. banking system and cards still relied on West
4. Russia relied on food imports
5. Kinzhal, Kalibr and other important systems weren't made yet or weren't in needed numbers that are aimed at countering NATO
so to a big degree Russia was much vulnerable back then than it was at around 2018
if West went all, it would create huge problems for Russia within due to essentially bankruptcy, creating perfect conditions for some colorful revolution and such
6. back then, Lukashenko was still multi-vectoral, who probably wouldn't even let Russia use its territory
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>>533265553
When another 3 million of mongolkranians will die. So far they endured 1.8 million dead and already scrapping the barrel, wait until they start drafting their real protected groups and all of them see water running water only in dreams.
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>>533265877
EU (you) is supporting this:
https://busification.org
where are calls for peace? for diplomacy?
where are talks about human rights?
no, since basically the first month EU says "this conflict must be solved on the battlefield"
"Russia must be inflicted a strategic defeat"
well, Europe's support won't beat Russia, because in any military conflict facing defeat will use all of its nuclear arsenal against predetermined targets
but it will drag Europe into war against Russia
for which Europe right is actively preparing, especially Germany
that German law about men not allowed to be abroad fore more than 3 months should have given you a clue of what is coming to you
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>>533266258
I thought shit was cheaper at your place to make up for the lower wages? Or is it just that pc stuff specifically is fucked. I can build a high end pc with like a week's worth of my paycheck. Wtf saving months for a pc sounds insane.
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>>533274029
>Russian calling Ukranian Mongols
What?
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no idea what are you talking about
take this
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>>533265553
> When will Putin finally end the fucking special military operation?
Ask that from the cocaine clown Zelensky.He keeps digging in his heels and refuses to acknowledge the obvious hopelessness of his situation. He is ready to burn millions of Ukrainians in a meat grinder just to cling to his throne for one more day.Russia is using a grinding tactic, the goal of which is to minimize its own losses and maximize the enemy's losses. That's why the current kill ratio is 39 piglets for 1 Russian soldier.And Russia is ready for peace talks at any moment. But the final word always rests with Zelensky.
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>I thought shit was cheaper at your place to make up for the lower wages?
That applies to rent, perhaps food, but certainly not electronics. A fridge/phone/microwave isn't any cheaper in Russia than the same fridge/phone/microwave elsewhere
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>>533265553
I still can’t believe he didn’t just agree to take the four provinces and Crimea and go home.
I don’t know why he wants exactly but whatever it is his military can’t get it.
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> Do they cost even more in Russia?
They do because we have to import them through another countries using gray schemes, but we have SIGNIFICANTLY lower food prices, gas prices, taxes and home bills.
Because of that we are pretty much loaded with a lot of money, the OP is just broke retard.
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Retard
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>>533265553
It took the Soviets like 10 years to accept defeat in Afghanistan, you have like another 5 years to go, as long as the Chinese, the Indians and the Euros keep Russia's economy alive by buying their gas.
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>>533274507
>Because of that we are pretty much loaded with a lot of money
The fact russia pays govt employees to post this obvious lie and cope is fucking hilarious to me. 50 years ago this country had empire and now it resorts to lying on 4chan as if its going to make difference LMAO
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>>533274151
The northern part of Russia was not occupied by the Mongols, nor was Belarus. Ukraine was under Mongol occupation. The Mongols devastated Hungary and the Hungarian-Croatian king fled from Hungary all the way to Split and the Croatian Islands.
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>>533274229
>First human right violation to happen was russian troops stepping into the Ukraine out of nowhere
Odessa massacre on May 2, 2014 was the first one
then a month later Ukrainian army bombed administrative building in broad daylight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU-IceBwR80
in fact, there were 3000 deaths between 2014-2021 according to just the UN
when the same number of deaths happened in Yugoslavia within 8 years, West labeled it as genocide, went in, bombed Yugoslavia's power plants, media towers, government buildings with depleted uranium shells, took Kosovo, recognized its independence, put the largest NATO base in Balkans there, and called it all a democracy
but when the same number of Russians died in Ukraine as a result of a Western puppet regime that was installed after a Western sponsored coup, right at Russia's border, most of who lived in the same country as Russia just 22 years prior, Russia is not allowed to do anything, right?
you have no clue about this subject at all, little man
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the jewish proxy ukraine won't stop until one of you are destroyed
the biggest threat to jewish power is ethnostates like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China etc.
they will never just leave you alone because they automatic lose as long as the concept of a nation exists
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>>533274689
>It took the Soviets like 10 years to accept defeat in Afghanistan
defeated?
how do you explain the fact that the pro-Soviet Afghanistan government outlived USSR
it collapsed in 1994
what was happening in Afghanistan was constant attacks coming from Pakistan of "freedom fighters" trained by CIA and armed with Stingers
how many days or hours did the US puppet regime last after they pulled out?
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> happiness index
Lol. Lmao even
Why is the happiest country on the world is full on drugs?
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>but you will never do this because Russians don't know what freedom is nor do they care
oh yes
in Ukraine, there were no presidential elections for 2 years, while Ukraine's constitution does not prolong the presidency during Martial law, only parliament's
mean while in Russia there were elections despite incursion into Russian territory and the largest air attack on Crimea
in Ukraine, adult men cannot get out of the country for 4 years
in Russia, men are free to live
in Ukraine, men are getting grabbed not only from streets, but now their houses and sent to the front by tens of thousands every month:
https://busification.org/
no such thing in Russia at all, those who go to front are doing so voluntarily under contract
even in fucking Germany men cannot leave for more than 3 months
and after all this it is Russians who don't know what freedom is?
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of course not
to them Kievan Rus means a country controlled by Ukraine, not a name created by modern historians to call Russia during certain period
but how can you take them seriously when you look at, say, British polls asking its citizens who made the largest contribution in defeating Nazis, and the answers are pic related?
they rewrote history books long ago
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>>533275753
>The Mongols didn't rape this one city because they couldn't be bothered going through some big ass forest
>Russia only was 90% raped they are still white!
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>>533265553
War will end February 2027.
Putin will be found dead in a Kremlin office. Officials will say it was suicide. You will know better than to ask questions.
The war and all problems will be blamed on Putin, new regime will wash its hands off of it, pretend for 20 years they are now pro-western, then try it again.
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>>533266258
It just boils down to who gives up first. It's almost always the case that the defender is more motivated to keep going than the aggressor. If Ukraine stops fighting then they have to submit to Russian rule and things get drastically worse for them. If Russia quits then nothing happens, if anything things improve somewhat.
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>>533265553
>Anons, what are you genuine predictions regarding when the war will end and when Putin loses power in one way or another?
>>533266258
>The question is when will Putin die, resign, be removed, or simply change his mind for whatever reason
Sorry to disappoint you, Rus bro, but I frankly don't think that PUTIN has much, if AT ALL, to do with the war's course, progress, eventual development and whatever end it MIGHT (one day.. ??) see.
BIG Wars have ALWAYS been the same, everywhere:
They end when the Gods have taccepted and aken in ENOUGH Blood Sacrifice.
No sooner.
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>>533265553
>Anons, what are you genuine predictions regarding when the war will end and when Putin loses power in one way or another?
The issue is, if Putinism ends, or in other words if Russia nices up with the West, the West will use Russia as a cheap resource colony and wreck the place.
The West has big plans for Russia, and they all involve taking its resources and sucking the place dry.
Russia is in a tight spot because of this.
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>>533265553
Whenever Ukraine runs out of Ukrainians.
-Russians will never run out of bombs.
-Europe will never run out of fake money to print and send to ukraine, all of which the next generations will PAY for.
The only limited resource to continue this war is ukrainian human males
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>>533274614
Name one thing ukraine ever did for the USA, faggot shill.
How exactly.were you brainwashed into risking nuclear war for the most.corrupt country on earth.
We let ukraine send.1000 men to Iraq to help NATO. They were supporting a company from the UK. As soon as they got shot at the abandoned the brits without warning and ran all the way back home like pussies.
Am not even kidding you can look it up
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>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1458834/S hia-militia-takes-city-as-Ukrainian s-flee.html
>Ukrainian troops surrendered the eastern city of Kut to Shia militants yesterday, abandoning civilian officials, including 13 Britons who escaped under fire, coalition sources said.
>A South African security contractor was killed in the fighting and his body is said to have been left in the city.
>The retreat of the Ukrainian contingent, against the orders of the US military commander in Iraq, has privately infuriated coalition leaders.
>The capture of Kut, a provincial capital of about 380,000 people, marks the biggest victory scored by the radical Shia cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr, since he ordered his Mahdi army militia to launch an uprising at the weekend.
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>>533276054
Kievan Rus was literally called Russian state and ukranians were concidered lower than dogs where, lower than niggers in old America. Wtf even wrong with you you disgusting mongoloid rapebaby fucks? Just look in the mirror before speaking to a white master.
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>>533274465
Move to China.
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>>533287403
>high PC prices has nothing to do with Ukraine war. they are high worldwide it's not isolated to Russia.
>You can blame US and their AI ambitions for that.
ironically, you actually explained THE VERY REASON that Hardware is expensive AS FUCK right now:
GLOBAL WAR.
Valuable and crucial metals and parts go PRIMARILY for the War Effort.
THEREFORE there's less remaining for civilian uses.
Therefore HardWare prices increase.
DUH.