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How did they fuck this up?
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>>533275464
Iberians need presunto jamon,
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Why do Muslim chuds never want to reconquer Sicily instead?
Were we such horrible subjects?
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>>533275464
I am not allowed to comment and this historic fact because it might be considered antisemitic and illegal in Germany. Ask yourself who opened the gates of Toledo
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>>533275464
Shitskins are naturaly prone to irrational and ilogical acts lol
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>>533277345
please please "conquer" our mafia Island, we will behave and be good citizens we promisse teehee (ancient soprano owning half of baghdad 3 year later)
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>>533277345
Spanish women are hotter.
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>>533277555
Trips of truth. Visigoths were forced to become christcucks, which then made them retarded enough to trust kikes, who obviously betrayed them, and then cameljockeys violently killed them. Wow, it’s almost like the same thing happening now. Burn Abraham and his adherents. Free the world.
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>>533275464
Their DNA still flows through the real Iberians! In the long run the NAFRI DNA will win out.
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>>533277555
The Phoenicians were always there the Vandal kings shouldn't have been massive cunts.
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>>533275464
The Old Testament is clear that God picks the winners and losers of every war and battle.
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>>533275464
Roderick, our noble king that will never surrender his blessed kingdom, put his faith in cowards and was betrayed. They brought foreign weapons and books, our sons are dispossesed, our women raped, but I have faith Christ will renew Iberia. Oh but hear me, hear me, there is one who rebels! His name is Pelayo! Pelayo, God chose you as our king! Pelayo! Glorious champion of God, lead the Iberians to split the Mohammedan in two! The son shall avenge the father! Vengeance, vengace for our people, the reconquista has begun! Here begins our struggle, in Covadonga!
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>>533277866
He chose to be beaten by the iron chariot riders?
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>>533277866
Then how did this end up happening?
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>>533277908
How tf?
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>>533277770
Brother the North African DNA found in Iberia is mostly from a migratory period from 10,000 BC. The guy on the right, Ricardo Quaresma, is a full ethnic Gypry, his DNA is indian.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9382919/
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>>533275464
They're muslims, look at their wars versus Israel.
Without (the legacy of) literal medieval self-handicapping any remotely European country can beat them.
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>>533275464
after a century all arab roots where lost, blond hair blue eyes men and gingers LARPING as arab tribes feom the desert and yemen, they collapsed because they where racist and preferred money over other muslims

>>533277345
i visited sicily and the art whas nice, atleast you have malta
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>>533278017
We had this guy. Also, google the miracle of Ourique.
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>>533275464
Wait until you figure out that's how retards say atlantis..
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>>533275464
What I heard was that initially the moorish government was generous with taxes and the population actually liked them but later there was a shitload of infighting because the moors were not an unified culture/block but rather a sort of union between arabs, tuaregs/north africans and former christians. Also I think some of their leadership was incompetent.
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>>533278017
Hitler wasn't religious. God punished him for that and that alone.
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what were gate openers up to
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>>533277770
Lol no ahmed, you have lost, were genocided and deported, and it was never about dna anyway because they started to larp after converting to your death cult.
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>>533278473
That's the convivencia myth, the moors were genocidal as fuck towards us brother.

>>533278644
The opening of the gates of Toledo, historically associated with the 711 AD Muslim conquest of Iberia, refers to the moment when Jewish inhabitants, facing severe persecution under Visigothic rule, reportedly opened the city gates to Tariq ibn Ziyad's army. This act facilitated the rapid collapse of the Visigothic capital following King Roderic's defeat. Following the Visigothic defeat at the Battle of Guadalete in July 711, it is reported by several chroniclers that Jewish inhabitants, tired of persecution, assisted the Muslim forces in taking the city. The rapid capture of Toledo, the capital, shattered the Visigothic power structure. The city was left in the care of the Jewish population and a small Muslim detachment temporarily.
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>>533278243
this, only a estimated 30k arabs moved into iberia during the conquest of a population of 8 million

>>533278473
they collapsed because they where, racists
reason why they where kicked out of the middle east (umayyads) even after the majority of iberia became muslim, the new converts where still forced to pay jizya, some muslim nobles even forbade their chhestian peasants from converting, unless you descended from an arab you where basicly not a muslim
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>>533275464
inbreeding, infighting, and standard generic muzzie shitskin incompetence at warfare
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>>533278822
Even then, picrel was in place for 400 years
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>>533278863
>That's the convivencia myth
Theres always speculation about ancient times but it would not make sense for a feudal lord, christian, muslim or otherwise, to slaughter the entire population and then have no one to farm the fields and provide income for the local leadership.
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>>533278380
>The story was invented centuries after the alleged battle was supposed to have taken place.[1][2] "Matamoros" is not a name nor an advocation of the saint. Aspects of the historical Battle of Monte Laturce (859) were incorporated into this legend of the battle of Clavijo, as Claudio Sánchez-Albornoz demonstrated in 1948.[3]
that has been fact checked. you lost chud
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>>533278944
Correct, the Muwalladi, Visigoths who had converted to Islam, were permanently revolting against the Umayyads even though they were Muslim
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White people in the absence of kike poison are unstoppable. The Jews let the Muslims in, when they were noticed they and the Muslims were removed (unfortunately not permanently).
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>>533275464
>all these anti Med threads on /pol/ today
Man, Spain and Meloni-chan really made the kikes absolutely SHOOK, huh?
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>>533279414
the umayyads where arab supremecist, after the third umayad leader they needed to paint their hair black simply to not look like a native iberian infront of the other iberians larping as arabs, they where so lazy they mass imported spavs as slaves, and when they collapsed those muslim slava rose up and created their mini western slavic kingdom in spain under the taifa of denia
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>>533275464
Jews opened the Gates to Toledo and lead the armies all the way to central france.
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>>533275464
Too busy killing whites.
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>>533278380
based
>>533279086
you're brown, fact checked by me
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>>533279686
Think about it, apart from china, spain was the only other country to bother removing them for centuries.
If it happens in this day and age, a real purge with DNA tests Earth can easily become heaven overnight.
If you check the ancient world rulers everyone had a bad opinion about them and you know why they don't teach these things at school wink wink
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They didn’t. Muslims are literally reconquering Al-Andalus right now.
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>>533279953
communist and Muslims are the same thing so they already conquered it.
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I just wanna say that Spanish women are the hottest women in the world.
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>>533275464
idiot arabs kept enslaving north africa to the point we had to revolt , not only that but they kept fighting among themselves in iberia , these idiot faggot here believed in their religion and got brainwashed should have removed islam a long time ago just because of this but
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>>533275464
They got fat and soft and arrogant. They thought the dumb, superstitious primitives in the north can be bought with pocket change, their ragtag armies cannot possibly ever become a threat. Which was true for a while. Until it wasn't. The primitives turned into batshit insane religious fanatics while the civilized men in the south only got fatter and more degenerate. In the end the barbarians won.
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>>533280256
same, i have never visited spain but i might try this summer
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>>533280073
The collapse of the Caliphate of Cordoba was when it all started coming down.
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Recommend books
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>>533280348
no, they collapsed because yusuf bin gonzales y perez de le garzia bin sanches de rodeiguez tought that ahmed bun gonzalez y garcia de le spic fuentes is from a arab tribe that is totally different then them and therefore must commit civil war because of arab honourkillings
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>>533280477
The Lusiads
Cantar de Mio Cid
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>>533275464
PART 1

They fucked it up mainly because it looked like this for three seconds and they never secured themselves demographically.

There are two copes that come from misconceptions around Al-Andalus, one cope from Muslim irredentists, and one from anti-immigration right wingers in the West.

The first cope:
Muslims saying “haha! It took you 800 years to reconquer the peninsula!”

Not true. The “800 years” figure comes from the first time Muslims entered the peninsula. It took Muslims hundreds of years to get to the top of the peninsula, and as soon as they finished they immediately began being repelled back down for the next few hundred years.

Muslims never mention this. They act like they waltzed into Spain and controlled 90% of the peninsula within a year, and then Spaniards spent 800 straight years at the top until breaking through. Not true. It’d be like showing the Ottoman Empire at its territorial height in 1683, but implying that it looked like that in the 1300s, and saying “haha! It took you 600 years to repel us!”
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>>533279864
The crusaders were basically just hordes of town drunks and town rapists. Everyone wanted to get rid of theirs, so they were promised amnesty and fat loot in the east. Nobody cared if they win or die there. They wouldn't come back either way.
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same as nazi germany, manufactured conflict to serve a dialectic

because the show must go on
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>>533275464
>>533280604
PART 2

The second cope, from right wingers:

“Look what the Iberians did, 90% of the peninsula was under Muslim rule, they took it all back! That means our remigration will be easy peasy!”

No. The demographic impact of Muslim rule in Spain is, dare I say, nonexistent l. All North African admixture in Spain is from pre-Islamic times. A small number of Berbers, Arabs, and Arab-Berbers moved into the peninsula and instantly started intermixing with the native Hispano-Roman elite, who the Visigoths had previously mixed into. Then they intermixed with a steady flow of Saqaliba slaves, basically meaning Slavs shipped from slave ports in Crimea. There were actually a few Taifas in Eastern Spain ruled by Slavs. I recommend everyone go look up the Amirids, it’s really a fascinating story. Slave-descended Slavic Muslim converts ruling over Spaniards while LARPing as Arab-Berbers.

Anywyas, this is all to say that the Muslim invaders of nonwhite heritage were a very small minority and mixed into the native population instantly. They were never able to secure a large number of GENUINE converts nor could they import enough people to even be a significant minority in even one region.

Deporting, for example, 60 million Hispanics from the US would be nothing like the Spaniards driving out a few Muslims who were already 3/4ths white to begin with. Not comparable at all. Even driving out all the nonwhites from England where White Britons are a minority in London and Birmingham would be a HERCULEAN task compared to whatever few expulsions occurred in the wake of the Reconquista.
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>>533275464
Muslims are a horde faction and depend on their capture slaves to push into the mid game, once they got the land, they sent slaves to other places probably save for late game so a handful of high tier Spanish players were able to retake the whole thing in an iberic blitz, also known as Asalto Total Tio
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>>533280348
those who arent willing to win wont win
already after covadoga they built defenses in the madrid mountain range
>>533280489
1 mogs
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>>533280489
thinking about visiting the eastern coast andalusia and the deserty area below toledo

>>533280654
there is one wrong issue, they did convert the majority of Iberia to Islam, simply put andalusia and east spain had 80% of the iberian population
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>>533280489
>french men
>that pic
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>>533275464
despite having spain for 700 years when the christians retook it they only had to kill off 700,000 muslims who had moved there

THATS HOW BAD THE CURRENT SITUATION IS, 700 YEARS OF PRE MODERN MIGRATION IS COMPARABLE TO 7 MONTHS OF MODERN MIGRATION
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>>533280812
This shit is in youtube neighbour, salam.
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>>533280785
they mostly raised marches around the area, first two centuries not that much happend, its during the taifa period where the biggest gains for portugal and castille came from
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>>533280767
north africa did more work fightng the ummayads than spain ever did , the imperial armies were decimated in north africa , spain just used its huge population to take advantage of stupid conflicts between the original tribes of arabia and the berber ones
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>>533275464
Muslim degeneracy unironicly wich is just the way these things devolop in various cultures not just islamic but it was very pronouced in this case.
Long were the days of the great conqueror Generals like Tariq ibn Ziyad.
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>>533280917
the trend was always the same, with setbacks and bigger gains, but the trend was always towards a spanish victory
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I just want to say that I totally support the mass migration of HispanoAmericans to Spain and that our objective is a Spain of 85 million people (currently at 45) by 2070.

My advice to all Hispanoamericans, regardless of what you think about Spain: come here and stay 2 years. Even if you hate us, come here and stay for 2 years. You will become a citizen and you will get a new passport. The Spanish passport. A European Union passport. That offers you a lot of possibilities and gives you more rights.

I answer any question and I can help if you have any doubts.

Our plans are mesured in centures. We planted the seed.
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>>533277770
They look like the average amerimutt
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>>533281056
Hola Panchito
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>>533280796
>there is one wrong issue, they did convert the majority of Iberia to Islam, simply put andalusia and east spain had 80% of the iberian population

Again, I’m talking about genuine conversions, and not only that, when it comes to ethnicity I’m saying there were VERY FEW non whites that ever permanently settled in Spain, and they all mixed into the white population immediately, so when their descendants were driven out as “Moors” centuries later, they’d have been indistinguishable from the average Spaniard to the naked eye.

America is a country with 200 million whites and 60 million Hispanics, and I don’t even know if that factors in illegals.

What I’n saying is, imagine if Medieval Spain were a country of 2 million Spaniards and 600,000 Half-Brown Half-White people.

They wouldn’t have been able to drive out this minority. The population ratio if Spaniards to “Moors” (again, typically upwards of 3/4ths mixed with whites) was probably 200:1


Re-converting a bunch of White people who were converted under duress from Islam back to Catholicism while expelling like 15000 people is in every way different from deporting 60 million people in a country where whites are only 200 million and the 60 million you want to change are of a different race.

You can convert religion. You cannot convert race.
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>>533281044
if the araba werent racist retards the mozarab/latino mix would still rule spain

the reason why turks succeeded in anatolia is becuase they werent autistic about it like the arabs, you convert= one of us, the dynatoi where also cunts so most of the peasants saw it as a way to free themselves

this also happend with the visigoths, local nobles fucking over the common man, arabs came in and offered them more freedom, that is why major revolts dint happen in spain during the early rule at all
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>>533280489
Those aren’t the hottest women in the world
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>>533275464
So the real story is this, Al-Andalus was actually split in into many smaller kingdoms which were basically independent of each other. The Christians won a few battles early in the reconquista, so the muslim kings went to North Africa and begged their even more powerful king to come help them fight the christians for the sake of islam. He sent tens of thousands of men across, and helped them stabilize the region. He gave them some advice to strengthen their realm, but had to return to North Africa to fight a different war, but he left a few men behind just in case. He spent a few years in North Africa in his other war securing his own kingdom, during that time the christians has a few more successful excursions into muslim land. He went back to Spain with his huge army again to help them, And realized they were all lazy pieces of shit who didn't take his advice before and he felt like he was taking advantage of his help and not making the most of it. So he turned around and sacked a few of their cities and took it over himself, then he was split between his kingdom in North Africa and constant conflicts in Al Andalusia and was spread too thin and couldn't maintain the fight against christians..... something like that
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Here is my message, read it >>533281056
. I answer all your questions. Our plans are mesured in centures. Come and join.

>>533281175
Language.
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>>533281178
exactly, the moors who where expelled where simply native iberians, that is why some (esp algeria) north african countries have more white mixtures
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>>533275464
>Asspain
it was siesta time
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>>533281178
soul and body
race and mind
both are pure
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>>533275464
Serious answer:
Demographic composition of Muslim fucked it.
It was 90% unreliable Christians, Visigoths
And 8% Berber and 2% Arab.
During the 8th and 9th centuries, the Arabs relied on Berbers and Slavic slave soldiers (saqaliba) to keep the Iberians on the line.
However, the slave import dried up due to the Christianization of the Balkans.
This only left the Berbers as the security force.
Over time, the Berbers grew more powerful and began demanding more and more privileges. Until the Caliphate of Cordoba became extremely fragmented.
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>>533281327
i think spanish girls are cute
i wish i could met one, greetings from spain
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>>533275464
how did they fuck this up?
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>>533281814
Most of these cost more money than they produced
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>>533281945
>they took over extremely resource rich countries and couldn't make a profit out of them

how did they fuck that up?
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>>533281809
there whas one i met online trough a pen app, after a month or so i would say a sob story about my high libido, eventually she caved in and send some of her own pics in "lewd" positions to "help", did that for a few months, her body wasnt stunning but i really wish i visited her before i blocked her
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>>533275464
Their mistake was not force converting all local Christians to Islam out of greed as they wanted to collect jizzya tax.
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We're moving towards what we call the great merging in Hispania. Every year, we get more than 1 million of our Hispanoamerican brothers. I would like to pump up those numbers.

The objective is to reach a Hispania of 100 million people before the end of the current century.
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>>533277345
>Why do Muslim chuds never want to reconquer Sicily instead?
>Were we such horrible subjects?

The problem is that Andalusia was and is much more valuable than Sicily, but arguably more importantly, there is a myth built around Andalusia, unlike Sicily.

It is the Muslim Atlantis, the Muslim Rhodesia. If you’ve ever seen the Lawrence of Arabia movie, you’ll see some amazing acting by the British actor who plays Faisal. He goes in a rant about how no Arab loves the desert, and in the heart, mind, and soul of every Arab there is a desperate, everlasting yearning for the lush gardens and glowing street lamps of Cordoba. He speaks of it all in a distant, soft romantic voice with an almost hypnotized, dreamy look in his eye, as if he had been transported back a millennia in that very moment and was walking the streets himself.

Andalusia is an obsession. Think Greeks and Constantinople.
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>>533275464
I fucking miss Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar so much bros
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>>533280073
What's with the Basque, did they just not do anything?
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>>533282274
this, araba try and pray in the cathedral of cordova and greeks bring crosses into the hagia sofia
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>>533277345
the arab, italian and northman combination made pretty great architecture, very original with those red domes, you should build more
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>>533280984
remember that the only times Spanish armies were defeated it was when the Berber tribes united under al moravids and al moaheds
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>>533282545
They'd send soldiers to help I guess
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>>533281056
>Our plans are mesured in centures. We planted the seed.

the browning of EVROPA starts from HISPANIA
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>>533282545
Basque lands were under multiple different crowns. Partially under Castille, partially under France, but for a while, they had their own independent Kingdom not pictured here that came later, the Kingdom of Navarre. You see, there were many Iberian Kingdoms that merged, were split up and divided between others, split off from others, or split into separate ones, so at different times there are different Kingdoms during the Reconquista.

For example, see the attached picture here. Navarre controls most of the Basque Country, but Castille dominates the Western half. England controls the land around Gascogne in the French portion of the Basuq country at this time, usually otherwise under French control.

So, the Basque Country was its own Kingdom for a time. Sometimes controlling more of the region, sometimes less, and eventually absorbed. This is in the year 1400
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>>533275464
They should’ve had a crusade similar to the northern and Middle Eastern crusade to reconquer all Iberia and parts of North Africa
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>>533282852
The Reconquista was a crusade brother
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>>533282649
>this, araba try and pray in the cathedral of cordova and greeks bring crosses into the hagia sofia

You’re right! I had forgotten about that part, I should’ve added it. Yes, many people know how Greeks sneak into Hagia Sophia, sometimes to pray, sometimes to bring Orthodox and Greek Irredentist Flags, but few people know that Arabs do similar things.

I’ve seen videos and photos of such things but had forgotten about this. Once saw an Arab guy filming in the Cathedral and sobbing while giving an angry rant in a hushed voice.
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>>533282852
The original plans of the Catholic Kings was to reach Jerusalem. We just find your continent and our plans changed.
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>>533282761
arabs dragged everything down they were like cows to be milled for cash just like the gulf and saudis are today
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>>533283145
*milked
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>>533282274
But Andalusia was land they conquered in the first place, whereas Constantinople was Greek (and yes, the eastern Romans were largely Greek) for thousands of years. Muslims had Andalusia for less than 8 centuries. They quite literally gained and lost all of that land within the timespan between the fall of Western Rome and the fall of Eastern Rome
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>>533275464
They were scared of pork
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>>533280073
blaveros btfo

>>533282545
I believe basque speaking basques inhabited valleys and mostly wanted to be left alone, the basques that got more romanized and modernized created the kingdom of navarra who also absorved the county of aragon created by the franks, wich later became a separate kingdom, as you see in the map. Both navarrese and aragonese however quickly adopted castillan as a language unlike catalans or galicians.
Who knows why, I guess the fact that Navarra and Aragon both were closer to castille and they were themselves centralized with Pamploma and Zaragoza. Castillan became prestigious by sheer number of speakers and they basically surrendered their culture.
As the monarchies unifed the central goberment would mandate castillan priests and goberment workers to all the territories and their influence grew.
Add to this many castillan speaking inmigrants to the regions and you get today picture.
Many navarrese still speak basque and feel basque, but castillans do pretend they are separate realties in order to weaken them.
With aragonese they don't even have to try, aragonese really became castillan cock suckers and they are proud of it.
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>>533275464
Muslims are literally incapable to not fuck each other over for minor gains.
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>>533282054
The truth is that they were always an colony of India.
India got them addicted to tea. They tried the same addiction strategies on China with the opium wars and it failed.
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>>533278168
Pork based diet
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>>533283404
I’m not saying that Muslims have as legitimate a claim to the Iberian Peninsula as the Greeks do to Constantinople and Anatolia, I’m simply saying that their losses are mourned and lamented in the same way, as well as the dream of retaking them are both yearned for in the same way
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>>533282780
>>533282850
these maps always ignore Leon, Galicia and Catalonia and Valencia, the names of the crowns are incomplete. Yet people have no problem saying "Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth"
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>>533275464
they lived on it for like 10k years straight. it's just very tired is all
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>>533283620
I agree, but I just wanted to show the other guy the existence of Navarre
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>>533283620
you are the biggest faggot in the thread, congrants
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>>533282274
Sicily was valuable at the time as a producer of wheat and trade port for the Mediterranean Sea.
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>>533277555
Checkked
Came here to say this
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>>533277345
It is both a blessing and a curse with the arab masses, because Islamic history is pretty divisive as many coupes took place, schools and mosques only teach of Mohammad’s period, and they retell it again and again every friday at the mosque, so basically, the vast majority of arabs have a collective blackout from the death of the prophet to whatever present day it is, you euros joke about how americans think history started in 1776, it’s even more extreme with arabs, they know about the life of the prophet, and the last 50 years of history, and absolutely nothing in between, some of them have a little more local history, like Egyptians know about the pharaohs, the morrocans know a bit more about history with Europe, Iraqis know about akkad and sumer, as the local states want to subtly give themselves legitimacy, but nothing more.

And this collective blackout/brainwash is just as important to understanding arabs as izzat is to understanding indians, arabs don’t know anything that happened 200 years ago, and it helps make sense of our politics, as for example, europeans have an understanding of what’s good for them and what’s bad for them because they remember many political systems and historical events clearly, we don’t know what a civil war is until we have one, because we were never told about one, no one understands what political parties are or why they’re important (notice how you can’t name a single political party in the arab world) or any political activity outside the state, etc..,
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>>533283691
Unlike you I don't like to ignore my ancestors.
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>>533281056
panchitada histórica
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>>533283239
>wins Iberia back
>lose Anatolia forever
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>>533277695
Islam gobbled up every tribal religion in the middle east. If we'd remained pagan the same would happen. Also, Europe didn't bring in all the refugees until after it moved away from Christian centered policies. By becoming secular it lost its' identity and became vulnerable to terrible policies based on inclusion instead of conversion and appearing righteous instead of being righteous.
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>>533283695
True, true, but not as valuable as all Iberia was, and again, no similar myth of the same caliber built around it.
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>>533281056
Many spanish nationalists do not buy Hispanchismo, Vox is already hurting because of it.
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>>533283752
Language. If you know that expresion you're obviously not an anglo.

Please, read this post. >>533281056
I can answer all your questions (ony SFLs).
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>>533281809
spaniard girls are very diverse and I don't mean racially, but in terms of phenotypes you get absolute babes and some of the ugliest people in the planet too

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>>533281178
I will even go as far and say more muslims entered spain during the last 20 years of democracy than in any century of the middle ages
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>>533281056
How can I get a visa and stay there for 2 years as an american citizen?
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>>533283724
As a fun proof of concept, ask arabs what state ruled their country 500 years ago or 1000 years ago, see how many can answer and you’ll see how crazy it is.
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>>533283997
>some of the ugliest people in the planet too
not if you exclude basques
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>>533282205
It will most likely. Plus the new "North American Technate" is basically going to be like 50%+ hispanic lol. I will get a Latina gf, pump her full of kids merge anglo America with Hispania. and then me and Spain anons gather to drink sangria and sit back and watch the total expulsion of the jews.
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>>533277770
Obviously some spaniards look whiter than others but moroccans do have some phenotypes that make spaniards detect them in miliseconds.
Genetic memory I believe.
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>>533275464
Tours
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>>533283620
>Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
I believe you actually mean proto-Brandenburg-Prussia.
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>>533284079
and non charnegas scatalans
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>>533284028
Are you a Spanish native speaker? This project is only for Spanish native speakers.
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>>533277555
>Ask yourself who opened the gates of Toledo
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>>533284139
>>533284079
and you wonder why spain is not "united"
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>>533284028
Just overstay a tourist visa
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>>533284097
>merge anglo America with Hispania
more like with Mesoamerica. Plus Jewish genes are rampant in Latinx America. Your children will be part Jewish, part Mesoamerican cannibal.
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>>533284148
Mi casa amigo puta, cocaina puendejo espaneol.

Hala atletico Madrid
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>>533284148
the project should only be for cute tall european white females
i follow a cute big titties irish girl spanish bracelet wearing that turns me on
>>533284228
>i got rage baited im soooo mad
and im right about basques
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>>533275464
Islamic succession laws.. One guy conquers everything and then it gets divided amongst his retarded kids never to be unified again.
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>>533284244
Nope
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>>533280256
They are fucking ugly you dumb Leb Wog. Actual attractive White Spanish women fled the Moors to South America.
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>>533281056
>I just want to say that I totally support the mass migration of HispanoAmericans to Spain and that our objective is a Spain of 85 million people (currently at 45) by 2070.
>Our plans are mesured in centures. We planted the seed.
You mistakenly assume that those who arrive share your concept of Hispanidad, and that's not the case. They've been raised for two hundred years to hate Spain and Spaniards. Many of them have even abandoned Catholicism and embraced the delusional evangelicalism that suits those who want to plunder their countries. They don't come here to build anything. They don't care about this country, our people, our land or our ancestors. They only come to profit, and if things go wrong one day, they'll go somewhere else. They only seek their own individual gain, selfishly, as suits capitalism, not the common good, neither of Spain nor of Christendom nor of humanity. And the task of re-education is simply impossible when even Spaniards themselves have been educated in self-hatred since the arrival of democracy.
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>>533284421
are you the spic that post spanish/white passing spic girls?
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>>533284103
The pictures that show us as "moors" are always selective.
Out of everyone, the gypsy, Ricardo Quaresma was picked.
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>>533284230
So the authorities really are not going to just deport me?
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>>533275464
They’re still Muslims, they just hide it.
They support Iran.
The Catholic Church is also Muslim now.
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>>533283724
I think people really underestimate what paying 5 times a day every single day does to someone. It's ~30 minutes every 24 hours dedicated to praying to Allah.
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>>533284420
yep
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>>533284667
going against jews is traditional christian act, it's YOU who's sucking jewish cum like it's the best thing ever
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>>533282274
>no Arab loves the desert, and in the heart, mind, and soul of every Arab there is a desperate, everlasting yearning for the lush gardens and glowing street lamps of Cordoba
Almost no arab moved there. Only some 400k muslims settled in Spain, most of them from Algeria.
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>>533284889
It’s traditional to go against Muslims as well.
Why do you assume I give a shit about Israel.
The bigger game is China is spreading communist influence and Iran and that brand of Islam is against our interests,
I should’ve said China probably owns the Catholic Church at this point.
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>>533284878
>>533284826
built for BUC
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>>533284826
Let me guess: its a slavshit?
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>>533285131
>It’s traditional to go against Muslims as well.
Why don't you go against Saudi Arabia, then? They don't allow churches in their territory, but there are hundreds of churches in Iran.
https://youtu.be/KmM5caixva0
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>>533285479
she is italian
she doesnt look slavic
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>>533275464
The caliphates broke down into smaller Islamic states which gave the Catholic backed states up north leverage to conquer them. To put it simply they get politics get the best of them.
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>>533275464
Muslims only got in because of jews opening the city gates. Without subversive jews already inside performing secret sabotage, the muslims don't stand a chance. They're not good fighters, they never have been.
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>>533285487
I don’t like them but I don’t see them as a huge threat right now.
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Only 150k invaders and they only managed to get in because the Jews opened the cities' gates from within like the backstabbing kikes they are
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>>533277555

What did one of isreals favourite pets, sadiq khan, mean by this?
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>>533284826
>>533284878
Kind of Slav looking
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>>533282695
very cute, not well mantained though
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>>533285716
seeing how much you've been posting like a boomer retard, a MacDonald meal and reading a book is more of threat to you than some country halfway across the world from your shithole
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>>533285313
Big Ugly Cock?
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>>533275464
What do you see between Al-Andalus and the rest of their empire?
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>>533285527
>Anabel O'Halloran
Well half Irish a least
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>>533285877
checked
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>>533277770
Ya callate y se reemplazado.
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>>533286027
idk, she larps as italian, speaks italian and was born in sicily
maybe she was adopted or something
i dont think it matters that much, she turns me on
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>>533285589
>The caliphates broke down into smaller Islamic states which gave the Catholic backed states up north leverage to conquer them. To put it simply they get politics get the best of them.
During the Reconquista, the Christian kingdoms were also constantly fighting amongst themselves (Castile against Leon, Navarre against Aragon, succession disputes within each kingdom, etc.). Aragon would either set about conquering Sardinia or Sicily from the French; or the Castilians would be at war with the English... That's why the Reconquista dragged on for so many centuries.
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>>533285877
That building looks like your average Amerimutt here.
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>>533286246
iirc El Cid was even allied with some of the Mohammedans at one point.
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>>533286246
>>533286347
yes, it was insanity from all sides.
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>>533275464
1 good king was enough to purify the land of muslim filth. never lose hope jews can be expelled again
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>>533286562
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>>533283724
>>533284039
Your posts remind me of this video
https://youtu.be/deiShtWReYE
Maybe because most arab states were initially created by colonial powers and the national identity had to be built afterward within those arbitrary lines? If your national identity is so shallow and artificial then it's a given that your historical narrative would also end up the same way.
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>>533286246
>Aragon would either set about conquering Sardinia or Sicily
That was Catalonia though
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>>533286562
It was a queen. She was the one who decreed it.
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>>533280629
As well with young nobles who didn't get anything from their family because everything was granted only to the elder sons, and this is the origin of "noble knights" poor bums who had only some cash for a horse and armour yet didn't get even some kind of property.
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>>533287680
The most succesful single king at driving out the moors was D. Afonso Henriques. Isabela and Fernando finished the whole thing by conquering Granada, 300 years later.
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>>533283724
morocco was a mess and that why it was hard to controll , we had a unique system in the arab world that was both tribal and centralised it made it hard to invade and made the levied troops sharp since they were constantly skirmishing , but this same system led some tribes to be oppurtunistic and attack the centralised state when it smelled its chance thats why no moroccan empire lasted that long , the middle east had imported slaves to fight or had an ottoman style centralisation , arabian peninsula was pure tribal
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>>533284039
>ask arabs what state ruled their country 500 years ago or 1000 years ago
To be fair, the answer can be really complex depending on where you are. Syrians had, like, 3 or 4 layers of ownership at the time.
>>533288022
But they were still there after Afonso Henriques. They only got expelled in 1496. And there were some cryptos in both Portugal and Spain all the way up to the 18th century.
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Noble Betrayal and Defection: The conflict was not just political; it was personal. Key factions, including those loyal to Witiza, actively invited the Muslim governor Musa ibn Nusayr for help against Roderic. At the decisive Battle of Guadalete, troops loyal to Witiza's family are believed to have deserted or fought against Roderic, ensuring his defeat and death.
Widespread Social Unrest and Persecution: The Visigothic rulers were deeply unpopular with large segments of the population. They had severely persecuted the Jewish population, imposing forced conversions, enslavement, and confiscation of property. As a result, many Jews saw the Muslim invaders as liberators and welcomed them, providing crucial local support, intelligence, and even joining their forces.
Economic and Demographic Collapse: In the years leading up to the invasion, the kingdom was ravaged by famine and plague (notably in 698, 707, 708, and 709)
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Early Christian Resistance: A rump Christian state, the Kingdom of Asturias, was established in the mountains under Pelagius (Pelayo) shortly after the initial invasion. A significant rebellion in Galicia in 739, aided by the Asturians, successfully expelled Muslim forces from the region, which then joined the Asturian kingdom. This early resistance solidified Christian control in the north.
Garrison and Retreat: While Muslim forces did advance into parts of northern Iberia, including areas near León and Gijón, and even appointed a Berber governor, they did not establish firm, lasting control. The northern highlands, particularly the western and central sub-Pyrenean valleys, "remained unconquered" as a practical matter, serving as a safe haven for resistance.
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>>533288334
If by "There" you mean Iberia, yes, Portugal, no, they all had to go back to Morocco
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>>533288022
Cool, saved. Reconquista is always max comfy but the Jews don't like it when we talk about it.
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>>533282274
Arabs have plenty of med lands, the jews didn't make the holy land put of dunes, it's the land of milk and honey
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>>533283612
Retaking of Constantinople for the greeks and banishing the jewish and muslim hordes is an war that the western world should actually do instead of fighting forever wars for the jews and having jews let in the refugees from them to our homes
But alas, the jews were allowed to take root and this is what we get now
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>>533281056
Suicidate sudaca de mierda
Si eres español europeo, mata a tu panchito / moro / paki de tu barrio. Es una orden. Máta ese puto marrón antes de que te mate a ti o a tu mujer.
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>>533288022
That huge cock going in to Castella.
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>>533288513
They didn't all go back to morocco, especially the jews as they're parasites that always seek a new host
Lot of them went to netherlands, england and france to set up money lending operations
And bunch of them went with the spanish and portuguese colonists to the new world and set up slave plantations
That is why 25% of south americans that have "european" roots have jewish blood
Its not hard to understand why there is so much crime there imagine when a jew raped their nigger slave
Then you have a jew-nigger hybrid walking about
Add some southern amerindian to that and you have the current day ogro de las cartelas who corrupt and eat the societies they inhabit from the inside, and never want to do honest work
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>>533284421
Are you a retard? The discovery of the New World took place after the Reconquista. At that point, the Moors were long gone.
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>>533290381
Look at his flags, of course he is. He thinks that holocaust was real, that nazis were the bad guys, and that letting jews import brown people and lend money is a good thing
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>>533275464
An increase in the influence of women in public life has often been associated with national decline. The later Romans complained that, although Rome ruled the world, women ruled Rome. In the tenth century, a similar tendency was observable in the Arab Empire, the women demanding admission to the professions hitherto monopolised by men. ‘What,’ wrote the contemporary historian, Ibn Bassam, ‘have the professions of clerk, tax-collector or preacher to do with women? These occupations have always been limited to men alone.’ Many women practised law, while others obtained posts as university professors. There was an agitation for the appointment of female judges, which, however, does not appear to have succeeded.
Soon after this period, government and public order collapsed, and foreign invaders overran the country. The resulting increase in confusion and violence made it unsafe for women to move unescorted in the streets, with the result that this feminist movement collapsed.
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>>533289381
Guy was a gigachad
>Dad dies
>Mom gets in bed with a Gallician
>Mom starts moving to fully annex Portugal into Galicia-Leon
>Knights Himself at the age of FOURTEEN
>Does pic rel

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