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>Jesus is already proven to be real
>Atheists think it’s BURDEN of Christians to prove god is real despite evidence
Why are atheist such dishonest actors? It’s their job to disprove Christianity doesn’t exist. We know Jesus was a real person.
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>>533279193
Jesus was not a real person and this book does a great job of refuting his historicity
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>>533279193
>We know Jesus was a real person.
No you don't. You just want that to be real, so you lie, bullshit and insist. Any evidence to the contrary will simply be thrown out of your mind and ignored.
That's the height of dishonesty.
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>>533279464
>No it isn't. "Christian scholars" might agree with that, but they're not exactly unbiased researchers, are they?
It's consensus of all academia, as in historians, stay mad. You're as dumb as someone who thinks Alexander wasn't real. You're just another ideological liar with an agenda at odds with reason.
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>>533279500
>Any evidence to the contrary will simply be thrown out of your mind and ignored.
Exactly what you Jesus-deniers do. Too bad academia has moved on decades ago accepted the fact he was a historical figure. You're literally stuck in 1950's arguments. That's how out of date this idea that Jesus was a myth is.
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I created this screencap years ago just for mad anti-history faggots like yourself. Read it closely and weep:
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>>533279193
In hinduism, there is a thing called "Neti Neti". it literally means "not that not that.
so when people are trying to find God, they sit there and reject the reality of God all around them. they say "Thats not God, Thats not God". but the mind has a weird way of working itself out sooner or later. because people in their pursuits of rejecting God, or what they disbelieve is God, often times just right back on the path of following God.
So I think that athiests fall into 2 categories. people in rejection of God because they feel like they have been wronged by God or that God isnt their because they prayed for a million dollars and all their problems gone, and when that happened they lost all faith.
2, people that think they are smarter than everyone else as if were all just lying retards.
On the one hand I could have patience for young people trying to discern reality, on the other if you hit 40 years old and are just still an atheistic prick. well i have no hope for you and i think your eternal damnation is well deserved.
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>>533280315
>2, people that think they are smarter than everyone else as if were all just lying retards.
This is the most common, in my experience. The conceit of the modern man is absolutely on another level. The average midwit literally thinks that the ancient Greeks were just a bunch of illiterate cavedwellers who sat around and picked their noses all day, who literally believed that lightning came from a big man in the sky. Modern people are terrified of the idea that men who existed 2,000 years ago were smarter and more capable than them in every conceivable way, and will tell themselves endless lies to avoid treating ancient philosophy and theology with due reverence.
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>>533281154
Not only that, but even if Jesus the man didn't exist it's still the case that Christ the eternal principle exists without doubt. Christianity is still theologically coherent even without the events of the Bible, because Christianity's theology is identical to what Plato and Plotinus taught, right down to the trinity and God being Truth.
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>>533281154
>even if Jesus was just a folk hero...
He isn't. Why are you giving credence to liars arguing in bad faith. His historicity is an accepted fact.
>>533281466
>Not only that, but even if Jesus the man didn't exist
He did, read:
>>533280262
This board is fucking retarded.
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>>533281525
I know he did. There's no doubt that Jesus existed. But the point is that Christianity is built on the spirit and not the body, meaning Christ the spirit, which is an eternal principle, is all that needs to exist. Jesus the body is merely the manifestation of the spirit, in the same way that our bodies are merely manifestations of our souls. All things consist of spirit and body, but it's only spirit which is essential and preservative.
Basically, what I'm saying is that not only are atheists wrong about this, but they'd still be wrong even if they were right because they fundamentally don't understand theology.
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>>533281802
yes, this is correct. the Bible explains this really succinctly. "Christ" dwells inside humans, all humans, and makes himself known to us continually. we're the ones who ignore it. especially people who say things like, "i would believe in Jesus if he appeared before me right now and did a miracle". they're usually lying.
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>>533282300
>especially people who say things like, "i would believe in Jesus if he appeared before me right now and did a miracle". they're usually lying.
how so? If that happened you would have no choice but to believe it. It's more proof than "just believe it because this old book says so"
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>>533279193
They don't have to prove anything.
Neither do we.
They are free to maintain their delusion until they face Him on Judgment Day.
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>>533279193
Speaking of contemporary historians about Jewsus..... that would explain a lot of the delusions of grandeur that he's the son of yahweh. All bastard children have it.
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>>533279193
>Jesus is already proven to be real
By which I assume you mean that as far as we know, the writings of the bible refer to a travelling teacher known by the name Jesus, which was the most common male name in middle east back then, and it's LIKELY he existed, or at the very least that the biblical Jesus is an amalgamation of several similar people as one, but even if he did exist, there's zero (0) proof that he was the son of God or in any way a supernatural miracleworker. Like just proving that Jesus existed (Which btw has NOT been done) isn't enough to prove he was the literal son of God. Like we know [insert any actual historical person] existed but even if some wacko writes a book about how he was God incarnate, that isn't proof that his claims are factual.
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>migger christmonkeys think "scholars" agreeing that a jew named yeshu existed and was acked by Pilate implies their religion is true
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>>533279396
Shitposting aside you must understand that a historical person existing and him being God are two very different things.
What's to say that Gerald FitzGerald, 11th Earl of Kildare wasn't a wizard? His existence is very well attested.
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>>533287966
C'mon now, it's not like they've got anything else going on. Their whole personality and values are tied to their precious kike on a stick, the possibility that someone existed who matches the general description of "he had the most common name and he was executed by the historical ruler of the region" is all they have going for their case. Teasing them about it is just mean. Like picking on the class retard.
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>I know for sure what happened 2000 years ago. You can trust the scholars
>Umm actually those holocaust numbers from 80 years ago are lies. You can NOT trust the scholars.
Well?
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The burden of proof is on you, not us.
You claim a Jewish preacher was literally God, performed miracles, died, and rose from the dead. That is an extraordinary claim. The default position is skepticism until you provide real evidence.
Atheists are not “dishonest actors” for refusing to accept your unproven supernatural claims. You are the one making the positive assertion. You have to prove it. Demanding that others disprove your god is backwards and lazy.
You’ve been taught that your holy book is automatically true and that questioning it is immoral. That’s why you flip the burden and get angry when people treat your religion like any other claim. That’s not strength. That’s intellectual weakness.
You believe a Jewish carpenter from 2,000 years ago was the son of God, walked on water, turned water into wine, rose from the dead, and is coming back any day now to judge the world.
That's not "faith." That's clinical-grade delusion dressed up as piety.
Science has shown for centuries that the universe runs on natural laws, not magic. No evidence has ever been produced for virgin births, resurrections, or talking snakes. The Bible is a collection of Bronze Age myths written by anonymous believers, full of contradictions, failed prophecies, and borrowed stories from older pagan religions.
Yet millions still treat it as literal truth in 2026. After Darwin, after genetics, after cosmology, after neuroscience, they still insist a Jewish messiah died for their sins and will return on clouds.
It's not just foolish. It's fucking insane. The same species that split the atom and sent probes to Mars still believes in a sky Jew.
The only reason this Bronze Age cult survived this long is because it preys on fear of death, guilt, and the human need for belonging. Weak minds cling to it because facing a godless universe is too scary for them.
You're not "enlightened" for believing it. You're just too scared and fragile to accept reality.
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Muhammad was proven to be real, therefore Islam is the truth.
Checkmate.
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>>533279193
They worship science. Vaccines are their communion. If forced, they'll say "the universe" instead of mentioning He who created the universe. They're just insufferable douchebags who are in denial of their eternal souls and are terrible at coping with it.
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>>533279193
I literally cannot understand what youre saying. Athiests need to prove that CHRISTIANITY (the religion itself) exists? Huh?
>>533279263
Fpbp.
>>533279284
Its a midwit book that feigns shock that a small cult wasnt written about endlessly at a time when writing was rare and expensive. The man existed, we have Roman and pagan sources.
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>>533279193
Did you know he was a rabbi too?
>And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi (which translated means Teacher), where are You staying?”
john 1:38
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>>533288886
>If forced, they'll say "the universe" instead of mentioning He who created the universe
Idk what the fuck you mean by this but I quarantee you that you can't push me to refer to "the universe" in a way you'd use "God"