>>533323889
idgi

Its because white men want to rape their own daughter nobody else is allowed to

>>533323959
>Mexico
>>533323889
>shitskin lies presented as fact
why do nons do this?

>>533323959
Then I said that's not my daughter that's my wife!

>>533323959
or rich people which is a dogwhistle for no niggers

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>>533323889

Whoever gets the job done.

Depot all non-whites now.

>>533323889
>White men have these violent fantasies of killing anyone who touches their daughter
I don't. Does anyone here?
If the first half of your argument is false, the rest of it comes across as silly.

>>533323889
uh huh
so you can go ahead and start posting the proof that he raped anyone.
now.

liar.

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Can I ask why does literally everyone call Trump a rapist?
Has there been any actual evidence of it or do people just say it because he merely appears in the Epstein files?

Explain to a non-American please.

>>533324468
It's from before that, they've been calling him a rapist since the "grab her by the pussy" thing
>>533323889
The implicit suggestion that only white men want to do harm to someone who rapes their daughter is interesting

>>533324764
Okay but pedo then.
Everywhere I look people proclaim Trump to be a pedo.
Why?

>>533324890
Epstein?

>>533324050
Anti white shills always lie. Every single time everyone of their posts always get exposed as lies.

Every single time

>>533323889
Logically this means the girls Trump supposedly raped don't have White fathers.

>>533323889
>White women have these utopian fantasies of a world where they are worshipped at every corner while at the same time voting to flood their own towns with niggers and various 3rd world brownoids that punch them, raped them and treat them like shit in general, just so they could say "OMG CHIVALRY IS DEAD!!!"

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>>533324468
>most of them are on the younger side
>guy that was bestfriends with a rapist who owner a private rape island

>his flag
it's America's flag

>>533323889
Prove that he's a rapist. It should be pretty easy if you're so confident about it.

>>533324277
Trump already chickened out of that.

>>533323889
Because whites are hypocrites and liars

>>533324955
Ok but then back to the original question; Has there been any actual evidence of it or do people just say it because he merely appears in the Epstein files?

From my outside perspective, it seems like the US is currently in some sort of moral panic but I want to ask anyway because I could be wrong.
What am I missing, objectively?

>>533325179
Yeah but if we're being honest he was a push in the right direction whereas Kamala would have been a complete failure.

>>533323959
Fpbp. It's a Freudian thing.

>>533323889
>actual rape
proofs?
dnc sponsored roastie accusations don't count

>>533325217
Appearing in the Epstein files constitutes actual evidence for a large swathe of the population

>>533323889
the biggest trump supporters ive seen are beaners and jeets.

>>533323889
I didn't vote for Joe Biden or put his flag on my truck.

>>533323889
Who are they talking about, indians?

Do amerimutts not allow their daughters to date?

My favorite prostitute is literally a 31 and 41 year old girls. They start being whores young

>>533325118
>a rapist who owner a private rape island
Wasn't Epstein technically a pimp who pimped out underage hookers to politicians on his private island, and recorded everything to produce some kompromat for his Mossad bosses? Nobody was raping anybody.

>>533326010
Just the fact that his physical manifestation is in the files are the only evidence that he is a pedo?

From a neutral perspective, dont you guys think this is a little intellectually dishonest? On a catastrophic level? You're basically part of a hysteria. This is the one thing they should teach you in school NOT to fall for, at least they do so in Europe.

How can hundreds of thousands of people declare that this is the case, without even during the moment of writing the sentence, not use one bit of self-reflection to question ones own rationality of whether this is objectively true.

I dont get it, it's embarassing. It's not worthy.

>>533323889
Rape?
Women want money, muscles and dick. Trump has enough $ to make most women spread their legs willingly.

>>533326508
They shouldnt date but if they become prostitutes young like they should, they usually string a couple boys their age along while they get blown out on big mature cock so that's okay I guess. Dating as a western concept? Lmao that's just training for divorce and how to put balls in a purse.

>>533326769
They have no proof at all what so ever.

Just demons paying the age old game of accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty.

These people buy into the hysteria because the media bombards people with it nonstop. On here and Reddit everytime trump is mentioned there’s a swarm of shills of unknown origin flooding the place with “trump is a pedo” variation posts. This is to ensure that the average normie who has the mental fortitude of a goldfish is inundated with their agenda so throughly that opposing information isn’t strong enough to counter.

Is trump a pedo? We don’t know for sure so I can’t say he’s exactly innocent but there are definitely people out there who desperately want us to think that.

Good on you for actually having a working brain Swedeanon

>>533323889
no they don't. and you're gay

>>533324468
>Can I ask why does literally everyone call Trump a rapist?
>Has there been any actual evidence of it or do people just say it because he merely appears in the Epstein files?
>Explain to a non-American please.
>>533324764
>>533325178
>>533325118

With trump there's a lot of evidence he was a rapey fuck, even before the epstein files release:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

You can also read about how closely he was tied to epstein here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_of_Donald_Trump_and_Jeffrey_Epstein

>>533324468
He doesn't just appear in the epstein files. The victims accused him of stuff:
>Epstein introduced her to Trump who subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis which is subsequently bite. In response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01648946.pdf
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-evidence-corroborates-claims-of-trump-and-epstein-sex-accuser-13/
>Donald Trump was complicit in abusing me to extort money from my grandfather and my grandfather engaged in similar activities. This is probably the biggest reason I had trouble geting help.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01250276.pdf

Trump was still friends with epstein after his conviction in 2008:
The epstein files showed that In 2009 Trump said Jeffrey Epstein was not a member of his club at Mar-a-Lago, but he was a guest at Mar-a-Lago, and he had never been asked to leave,
https://people.com/jamie-raskin-unredacted-epstein-file-trump-claim-11903119
another rep who viewed the unredacted files also said that trump didn't ban epstein from mar-a-lago:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LKWuBea3bos


epstein met with trump jr for coffee in 2019:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01028066.pdf

>Jeffrey Epstein told a friend he was in Palm Beach with “all the trump boys” on Christmas Day 2016—a month after Donald Trump won his first U.S. election, a newly released email shows.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02666126.pdf
Epstein visited trump on 2017 thanksgiving:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00989719.pdf

I've noticed the left does a LOT of "le hypocrisy much?" argumentation.
They take observation #1:
>You believe X...
Which may or may not even be true.
Then they take observation #2:
>You do Y...
Which also may or may not be true.
And then imply that the two things are inherently contradictory, and then rest smugly on the notion that if they've found some inconsistency between your belief and your action that they've won some argument that you may or may not have been having.
It reminds me of people winning arguments in their head in the shower when no one is around. They have to put words into the mouths of their opponent in order to get their 'epic takedown'.
Except instead of doing that, they make a silly picture, post it on instagram or reddit, and other leftists go "ooooh epic".
Except all they've actually done is look for hypocrisy that may or may not exist. It allows them to 'win' without ever addressing actual arguments.

>>533329867
Fake and gay

>>533324417
I'm curious. Would you not kill a man for raping your daughter?

>>533329565
wonan moment

>>533329867
Oh wow, some bullshit some crazy person said on the public FBI tipline!! Gosh, I'm surprised he hasn't been put to death with this rock-solid proof! Oh, and more crazy unsubstantiated horseshit, like Epstein having Xmas with the Trumps. You realize everything that was in the files isn't evidence of anything, this is just discovery bullshit that was included to either muddy the waters or as an act of transparency. Either way, nothing you posted is evidence of anything.

>>533323889

if he's so guilty of rape then why isn't he behind bars? And I don't want to hear shit about jews and 'pulling strings'. They prosecuted Diddy, they can damn well do the same here.
>you can't reply to this post without sounding mad
>GGNORE

>>533324468
Trump is a rapist because journalists dont like him. We can figure out the facts later.

>>533323889
when was he convicted of rape?

>>533331744
You mean like when they changed a law in NY specifically to indict him on a federal charge for a common business practice and even the bank said they agreed to all the terms, Trump promptly paid them back, and they would be happy to do business with him again? So they changed the law and found him guilty so they could call him a felon? Yeah...

>>533323889
I always found the whole killing the bf of ones daughter incest coded, I can understand wanting to protect your daughter, but doing silly things like cleaning your gun in front of him is just stupid.

>>533331102
Would depend on whether she deserved it or not. Was she acting like a whore at the time or just going about her business?

>>533331895
Thats just normal NYC practice. If the city isnt changing laws in order to fine people after the fact for regular buisiness acts that were completely conventional at the time, then what else can it do to raise money? Provide valuable services? lmao

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>>533323889
White women have these violent fantasies about killing their own sons and daughters before they are born, but a NIGGER comes along and they open their legs.

Funny how ever since women got the right to vote we just get leaders who are dark triad types, having zero qualms about people killed or destroyed by their decisions? It's like women have an uncanny attraction/detection for psychopath/sociopaths or something

>>533323940
leftists still think trump is a rapist

>>533331888
Of the fathers who vote for trump, how many have had thier daughters RAPED by trump? 1/30,000,000?
>This 0.000,000,03% of the population is (you).
Strawman. Sage.

>>533323889
Bill Clinton has not been voted for in ages.

>>533332056
Assume your daughter is still a child under the age of 14.

>>533323889
>Canadian flag
Come back when you're from a real country faggot

>>533324468
There's zero proof, liberals are just legitimately retarded.

>>533326769
its the left version of pizzagate.
but since its leftist its ok to talk and say it in public.

>>533332491
It's a strawman to ask for proof of claims? are you really this stupid?

>>533323889
https://youtu.be/-Fp7w3Jy3yk

>>533326769
>Just the fact that his physical manifestation is in the files are the only evidence that he is a pedo?
Yes. The left will scream to the sky that Trump is in the files while at the same time ignoring the he mentioned in them so much because Epstein was working with democrats, the media and even Russia trying to get dirt on him.

>>533332414
>miggers have deluded themselves into thinking he's not

>>533325217
It's moral panic. Trump is an innocent man, clearly. How long are they gonna pursue evidence that never materializes while they accuse him? Well, friend: forever.

wheres the proof?

>>533326769
>From a neutral perspective, dont you guys think this is a little intellectually dishonest? On a catastrophic level?
Yes, this is by design. They WANT you to be a poor analyst who jumps to conclusions. This isn't a recent thing, look at all the public trials. OJ, MJ... Exactly how are regular people watching a court case on TV supposed to make intelligent determinations? They're not privy to tge facts, discovery, anything. The truth is they want to train goyim to think incorrectly and be quick to accuse, thus terminating intellectualism.

Abd leftists fell for it hook line and sinker. They're sensationalists who have long since forgotten how to think logically.

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white men are naturally submissive

but you need to pretend to have violence and authority first

they are a canaanite slave race only fit to serve the jews and their psychopath proxies

>>533324468
part of political ideologies is repeating a lie so often that it becomes accepted as truth for your party, both sides do it daily

>>533336279
Niggers be like
>I'm no slave!
And then get gunned down resisting arrest at a traffic stop while high

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Liberals have this fantasy where everyone they don't like for ulterior motive they won't be honest about -- is magically the worst criminal mastermind ever -- because that validates their dislike and makes it look less petty.

Coomer shit obv

>>533324468
>party animal who does beauty pageants, is friend / blackmailed with/by pedos and tells in public and in front of his daughter that he'd fuck her is totally a normal guy

>>533323889
>white men have these violent fantasies of killing anyone who touches their daughter
No, they have these peaceful fantasies where they don't have to worry about brown rapists touching their daughters, but circumstances are becoming such that violence will be required to reinstate it.

>>533323889
Biden and Clinton are no longer President though and have been disgraced.

>>533336385
Niggers be like
>Ahh ain't no slave!
Then go around doubt what they are told,. especially in prison

>>533336726
It's funny how the term RAPIST isn't applied to the political party that allows women to kill their own children. Somehow they all get a feminist pass.

>>533323889
Can you prove he's a rapist, or are you projecting delusions because you don't have anything on him?

>>533329565
>plenty of evidence
>heres a link to wikipedia ALLEGATIONS

lol

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>>533323889
I never voted for Joe Biden, though.

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>>533323889
I don't know man, I just want to watch anime...
Get off my back.

>>533324468
his ex wife has literally said in court he raped her

>>533338711
How does a man rape his own wife?
She literally entered into a contract to have sex with him.

>>533331545
DId you pay any attention to the links i posted? many of the victim's claims were corroborated:
>https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-evidence-corroborates-claims-of-trump-and-epstein-sex-accuser-13/

>>533339946
no, that's not what a marriage contract is in america.

>>533338416
victim testimony is evidence.

>>533340681
Yes, that's what a marriage contract is. Woman gets protection and finances, man gets sex and children. Feminism has warped this view, but that's what it is.

>>533331888
Trump has been found liable for rape* in civil court, but in that case the crime occurred long enough ago that statute of limitations ran out for the crime.


*Technically it was just sexual assault, since in new york it only counts as rape if the forcible penetration happens using a penis and he may have just used his fingers.

>>533336279
Yeah like when conservative men flocked to get an injection that every authority figure was telling them to get. You will find people with an authoritarian personality everywhere. Thats why we call them sheeple.

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>>533323889
Indian shills with leaf flags have these fantasies that they are irresistible to women of all nations, but then lie about it because muh izzat

>>533340786
>Yes, that's what a marriage contract is. Woman gets protection and finances, man gets sex and children. Feminism has warped this view, but that's what it is.
Where is any of that mentioned in CURRENT usa statutes or case law?

>>533340716
Lol. Are you talking about the woman that called rape sexy on national TV?

>>533340895
... that concept presupposes the US by about 2000 years anon.

>>533341006
https://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1906/24/acd.01.html

Why are you leaving out the full context of the comments that you quote?
> "I think most people think that Rape is sexy"
You leave out the prior sentence and the sentence afterwards.
>This was not—this was not sexual. It just hurt. ... I think most people think of rape as being sexy. They think of the fantasies
Even on it's own it's clearly talking about what other people think, not what she thinks. With further context it's obvious She's contrasting the painful reality of something to the unrealistic fantasies people have.

>>533341056
I'm not asking about history, I'm asking about american law.

If you're wondering why its possible for a man to rape his wife in terms of laws in the usa, look at the relevant laws in the usa.

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>>533323889
>Leaf
>White men have these
Saar, I see you are trying to have sex with white and Asian women. I know how this works, saar. White man bad! You must have sex with me, a brown guy, since white man = bad.

There is 0 credible proof that trump is a rapist. So anyone who calls him that is a subhuman idiot..

>>533341135
Lol. The context does not help anon.

>>533341227
>I'm not asking about history
Oh I am. The entire history of the concept has alot more meaning than snapshot of laws in a single country

>>533341227
It never happened, buddy. You're #believingwomen, but unfortunately for you and humorously for me: that's not evidence.

>>533341838
what are you talking about?

>>533341824
>Lol. The context does not help anon.
How does it make it worse. Explain?

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>>533341621
It's true though. I live in the most conservative part of a really red state but I've never seen so many "I regret voting for Trump" signs in lawns. Everywhere I look, not one Trump supporter who doesn't regret it. It's crazy because everybody here voted Trump 3 times in a row, but it's obvious that this time, it was a mistake. We call him "Trump the Mistake" in my house.

I was at a bar in town on Saturday night. It's the kind of place where working class guys, truckers, and farmers go to unwind after an honest day's work, a real salt-of-the-Earth type of place. We were watching a local high school football game on the TV and one of the players happened to be named Harris, which prompted people in the bar to start talking about Kamala Harris. My dad (a coal-miner) says "y'know, I've voted red since the Reagan administration but I really should have given her a chance. I'm a fool for being so racist and sexist that I couldn't vote for a Brown woman, she was clearly the best choice." Then the local gun store owner, who is also the head of the local KKK chapter, said “I can’t believe I’m saying this, but we need to impeach Trump and Vance and replace them with Kamala.” I look around and my face is stunned. All of these hardcore Trump supporters are shaking their heads in agreement. I heard a couple “yes, sir” and “damn straight”. Everyone started nodding and agreeing, and we were talking about how she's not a billionaire so she understands the plight of the middle class. We all call her Middle Class Kamala around these parts.

She was the best candidate for the job, and the only reason she lost is because we were too racist and sexist to realize it. She was basically President for the last 4 years and our economy was booming. We call her Queen Kamala and praise her Kamalaconomy. Anyways just thought I'd throw in my two cents on the matter.

>>533342207
The facts.

>>533323889
They're just fantasies. If one of their daughters is raped, they publicly forgive the perpetrator and thank jesus for the test. Lmao

This is a retarded part of American culture and masculinity, I fucking hate daddys little princess type fathers. Like they pretend to be tough and doting fathers but their daughters end up being whores anyways? Like what's the fucking point?

Being a thorn in the ass for men who have the integirty to meet their gfs parents, but it's a A OK when their daughter is fucking dozens of guys behind daddys back.

>>533342523
In no other society in the world is appearance, outward impact, as important as in yours. Just look at the fake teeth, fake hair, and countless cosmetic surgeries, all so that no one sees who you really are. It's the same with your fake personalities. I hate that this crap has been spreading to Europe for about two decades now.

>>533342253
I wouldnt say it makes it worse, it just doesn't help.

>rape is sexy
Vs
>rape is sexy, most people thing so, this wasnt sexy

Is not an improvement.

>>533323889
FUCK
JOE
BIDEN!

>>533342857
Everything about society is all bloat and no substance. Our food, stock market, and entertainment. Fathers need to realize that the bf they feel comfortable enough to bring home is the one they SHOULDN'T try to ward away.

>>533343815
I understand what you mean, and you're probably right. But that won't stop conservative american fathers from putting on a show with a gun and a big spotlight. They're not doing it to protect their daughters, but to project the image they want others to see. It's exactly the same with liberal american fathers who describe their daughter's crackdealing, nigger boyfriend as misunderstood, to project their liberal image. Like I said, it's all fake.

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>>533323889
I don't recall BIDEN flags on trucks... OP is hallucinating again.

>>533335790
>hes definitely a rapist, but ill never, ever, ever post evidence of it

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>>533323959
Lmao okay spic

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>>533323889
Delusional lefty fags gonna delusional lefty fag

>>533343006
She's not saying she thinks rape is sexy. thats misrepresenting her words. She's criticizing popular misconceptions.

>>533323889
This is such a retarded take. Most of the parents of the girls Trump raped wouldn’t even vote for him.

>>533341838
>>533341838
>It never happened, buddy. You're #believingwomen, but unfortunately for you and humorously for me: that's not evidence.
How does this tie into the question here >>533341227 about american law? can you explain?

>>533345438
see:
>>533329565
>>533329867

>>533346953
Your question is irrelevant because there was no crime. Glad I could help.

Whew. Niggers, amirite? They understand nothing

>>533323889
You need rape

>>533347067
spousal rape is a crime under american law whether you like it or not.

>>533326735
Prostitution is both rape and human trafficking when it's politically expedient.

>>533323889
Right wingers are fit only to be slaves and whores, simple as.

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>>533324468
There is only one magical word area left in society and it’s the most important one to let parasite Jews keep control I calls any man attracted to attractive women specifically anyone under 26 the most evil thing to ever exist it’s literally the last linchpin in the satanic world order of it falls away they won’t have anymore magical words to call people and people can actually focus on actual problems instead of things that never have and never will be problems but it lets both sides claim to be the most virtuous and people are retarded animals so nither side wants to give up such an easy way to virtue signal because it would mean having to have real thoughts real arguments to real problems something normies hate to have to do since they literally lack the ability to think

>>533347181
Okay, and Trump never raped anyone, and you cant prove it. You following?

>>533325118
We will kill all you faggots and take your females imto breeding harems

>>533326735
epstein raped people. wasn't just prostitution.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00037903.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00037905.pdf
a news article:
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/797011139/u-s-virgin-islands-officials-epstein-trafficked-girls-on-private-island-until-20
>Authorities claim Epstein's sexual predation on the hideaway islands occurred as recently as 2018 and involved children as young as 11 years old. The suit alleges the activity was covered up by Epstein's associates through a complex web of corporations.
>In one instance, investigators say a 15-year-old who was forced into sexual acts with Epstein attempted to escape by swimming off one of Epstein's private islands, Little St. James. Eventually, Epstein's crew found her after assembling a search team and took her passport, prosecutors say.

>>533347372
Faggots like you love your magical delusions

>>533323889
he didn't do it to my daughter.

>>533347501
Plenty of evidence of him committing rape was given.

>>533347021
So just women lying

>>533347605
You should tell people about it.

>>533335790
Raping most females isn’t bad so don’t care

>>533323889
Guys, trump is bad. And orange. This is news.

>>533336557
Yeah that is a normal guy faggot

>>533338711
She deserved it I’m sure

>>533331102
I don't fantasize about it.
It wouldn't be some great moment of justice. It'd be the horrific conclusion to a terrible, life-changing event for everyone involved.
Why would I 'fantasize' about any scenario in which my daughter was raped?

>>533347735
That isn't a real belief you hold in the real world though.

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>>533342316
Moments before this pasta was served

>>533348018
No, he's right. I don't care either. It's a nothingburger.

Oh no, you're a whore without a chaperone and you got sex you didn'tget paid for. Oh dear. Call the justice league.

>>533324468
A woman accused him of rape with no evidence, she couldn't even tell in what state or what decade it happened. She never told anyone about it for 40 years. Just random. A jury in new york found trump guilty based on absolutely nothing. I think Trump is an imbecile but the legal cases against him really were all witch hunts.

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>>533348018
Yes it’s is most women are worthless and most men shouldn’t be harshly punished for raping most women trump did nothing wrong in my eyes with other females even if on epstine island now he has done quite a lot of other things that are obviously horrible that make me question voting for him again but absolutely zero of it has to do with Epstein his ex wife and random thots because at the end of the day females are the biggest threat to civilization with ai coming in second and simps never forget about simps virginal Incels like you enabling the them is the issue when it comes down to it

>>533348423
>A woman accused him of rape with no evidence, she couldn't even tell in what state or what decade it happened. She never told anyone about it for 40 years. Just random. A jury in new york found trump guilty based on absolutely nothing. I think Trump is an imbecile but the legal cases against him really were all witch hunts.

No thats not true. it clearly happened in new york given that the case was in a new york state court and that it happened in 1995 or 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump

>On June 21, 2019, E. Jean Carroll published an article in New York magazine titled Hideous Men,[19] stating that Donald Trump had sexually assaulted her in late 1995 or early 1996 in the Bergdorf Goodman department store in New York City.

>>533348423
also note that Trump has issues remembering a lot of events. he didn't remember what year he was married to his wives.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ex-wives-access-hollywood-big-fat-hoax-highlights-trumps-deposition-e-rcna82878
>While Trump's attorneys have hammered Carroll for her inability to remember the exact year of the alleged attack, Trump had problems recalling some major milestones in his life, including when and how long he was married to each of his three wives.
>He said he and his first wife were married in "about '78 to the early 90s." The couple married in 1977 and divorced in 1990.
>Asked when he married Maples, Trump said, "I'd have to get the exact dates for you. I can do that very easily."
>Trump was married to Maples at the time of the alleged rape.
>Asked when he married his current wife, Melania Trump, he replied. “I don’t want to even give you the answer. I’m not going to dignify it.”

And Trump couldn't recall if he cheated on them or not.
>Asked if he was seeing women outside of his marriage to his first wife, Trump — whose relationship with Maples was regularly splattered across the front pages of the New York City tabloids during the late 1980s — replied, "I don't know."
>Pressed on whether he'd been public about his relationship with Maples while he was still married to Ivana Trump, he said, "I don't think I was public about it."
>Asked again if he and Maples had been dating before his divorce, he maintained, "I don't know, really. It could be a lapover," he said, apparently referring to an overlap, "but I don't really know."

>>533348689
That's an accusation
Where is evidence?

>>533323889
Because not doing that would be racist.
Oh wait, was this supposed to be an argument against the other party?

>>533332414
...the child he pushed in the head for biting his dick doesnt count?

>>533348826
Can we formally teach leftists the difference between evidence and accusations? Its getting beyond stupid.

>>533340820
He was only found liable because he commented about the case publicly despite being under a gag order. They didn't prove a fucking thing about the case. Basically, the punished him for publicly defending himself and calling the civil lawsuit bullshit (which it was). What a surprise, leftist court system finding any excuse they can to punish him because orange man bad and cult member libturds like you eat it up like the sheep you are. You are bad at this.

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>>533324050
>shitskin lies
stream your suicide migger!

>>533340716
>victim
Accuser
>testimony
Accusation with 0 proof
>evidence
Accusation

So an accuser's accusations are evidence despite having no, you know, actual evidence? You liberals are fucking retarded. Hey, you're a child rapist! Guess that's all the "evidence" you need, right pedophile?

>>533350041
>blind accusations with 0 proof is evidence!!!

>>533350069
>>533350143
It's exhausting how stupid it is.

Frankly Trump isn't even a racist. He's not cool enough. Yeah, I said it. He's a faggy rich asshole. He pays for pussy.

>>533350448
*rapist

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>>533323889
Yep. Its a damn shame.

Rich peope can't even rape. Who would believe it? They have what women want... MONEY.

>>533350569
As a rich man once said, you can grab 'em by the pussy and they let you. He was talking about what eager sluts gold digging whores are.

>>533350859
Yeah, it's not exactly arcane or esoteric knowledge. So when people tell me to believe women when they claim they were raped, I have SEVERAL problems with that.

>>533323889
I don't have a daughter.

>>533348773
>>533348877
>>533350143
Victim testimony is evidence

>>533324468
>Can I ask why does literally everyone call Trump a rapist?
He was successfully sued for defamation by a woman for his comments about her after she accused him of rape. He has not being criminally charged or convicted of rape.

>>533351257
>Victim testimony is evidence
Okay, well you're gay, lmao.

>>533323959
Unless they are a horse hung black man of course.

>>533351257
See
>>533350069
You seem to have an issue with understanding definitions of words. An accusation with 0 evidence=/=evidence. It's an accusation.

>>533351257
Yes but it has to be credible, testimony without a date or location isn't.

>>533352669
There was a location and an approximate date:>>533348689

>>533352009
Legally speaking, testimony is evidence. Testimony is sufficient for a conviction. Examples : https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1881730/

>>533323940
Vote for Biden flags I guess

>>533348689
Here's the "victim" on CNN talking about how she thinks "rape is sexy"
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pRDl8DXRC3Q?t=23&feature=share

>>533355487
Shh. Testimony can be considered evidence, so long as it corroborates with actual evidence. A claim or accusation unsupported by evidence is not considered evidence. You should know this. I accept your apology.

>>533340651
None of them corroborate any actual wrong doing you are conflating entire bullshit.

Like somehow no one else can corroborate epstein with trump and his family on Thanksgiving it makes no sense

>>533356056
She didn’t say she thought it was sexy
See this:
>>533341135

>>533356188
What counts as actual evidence?

>>533356273
If you can watch that clip and not find something extremely off about her, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason the cut to commercial. Almost no one thinks rape is "sexy."
>They think of the fantasies
She's thinking of her own fantasies

>>533324468
>In 2023, Trump was found liable in civil cases for sexual abuse and defamation and for business fraud. In May 2024, he was found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records, making him the first U.S. president convicted of a felony.

Pretty serious stuff. It's insane that Americans voted for him, he should obvously not have been allowed to run in 2024.

>>533323889
They would offer up their daughters hymens for Trump

>>533323889
sex in exchange for money is not rape

>>533323959
a spic holds the world record for fucking and murdering kids

>>533356441
Have you seen women’s “romance”novels? Rape is a common fetish. That’s probably what she’s calling a fantasy.

>>533323889
Who's a rapist?!? I'll fucking kill him right now no matter who it is!!1! >:C

>>533356188
That’s not what the law says. I literally linked you a paper that gives examples of people convicted with just testimony and no physical evidence.

>>533356384
Physical evidence. Records. Corroboration from other witnesses. For example, anon, based on your terms, I can call you a child rapist and you are considered guilty until proven innocent. See how that works? Now, if there was medical, physical, residual, corroborating witnesses, video, even timestamped texts, call records, and recordings at the time of any of this would be admitted into evidence. So, do you have any evidence you are not a child rapist? After all, I just called you one. The burden of proof is on the accused, in your mind.

>>533357105
Shh. I already replied to this >>533357112
Note how I pointed out how corroborating witnesses, images or timestamped records, and the many other ways an accuser's accusations find enough merit to lead to a criminal investigation and official formal criminal charges gets there? Not some crazy dumb whore who files a civil suit (look up what a civil suit means, sweaty), libturd judge eager to prove orange man bad so slaps a gag order, but with dumb opportunistic whore slandering you with an outrageous civil case that shouldn't have ever gone any further except activist libturd judge is salivating at taking orange man bad down allows it despite nothing but her convincing/paying a lawyer to file and pursue this case (which again, libturd judge wants to pursue), slaps a gag order so Trump can't publicly defend himself on this unfounded accusation made 30+ years later by crazy woman, but he does, and then is found liable for breaking gag order and is convicted on that. Yeah, sounds like a clear-eyed case of justice, you leftist freak. This is how the left acts and thinks, ladies and gentlemen. Like we didn't see how they warped the justice system last time they were in power? A vote for leftist politics is a vote for fascism. I hope your mom is dying of cancer, you piece of human shit.

>>533323959
They make lots of porn about raping teenage school girls search any porn site and you will be inundated

>>533323889
Okay but WHO did he rape?

>>533323889
They aren't, but you'll do anything for you masters won't you goy boy? Don't spend your earnings in one place!

>>533351528
Are you admitting to being a sexual abuse victim by anon? Cause that makes two of you

>>533356455
Trump's crimes:
>He called a woman a liar (she did lie)
>His accountant classified a payment to a lawyer as a legal expense (it was)

>>533323889
How's new York city going for you?

>>533357112
>Physical evidence. Records. Corroboration from other witnesses. For example, anon, based on your terms, I can call you a child rapist and you are considered guilty until proven innocent.
No, that's not what I said.
>So, do you have any evidence you are not a child rapist? After all, I just called you one. The burden of proof is on the accused, in your mind.
I didn't say burden of proof is on the accused. I said victim testimony is a form of evidence.

This hypothetical accusation of yours is not comparable to that situation.

You have no evidence we ever met. You can't describe anything about me.
You don't know my name. You don't know my job. You don't know what I look like. You don't know what color I am, what I wear, what my hair looks like, what age I am, what I sound like, how much i weigh, etc. You don't know where I live.
Those are just a few examples.

>>533357413
Her testimony wasn't the only evidence presented in her lawsuit. Trump's testimony likely played a big roll as well. Trump claimed he wasn't sexually attracted to her, but during the deposition he confused her for his ex wife. Trump has boasted about sexually assaulting people in a similar way to what he was accused of doing in this trial.

Wikipedia talks about some of the evidence in the case. You can also look at this article for a brief overview of some things presented at trial:
https://law.temple.edu/aer/2023/05/15/evidence-advocacy-and-carroll-v-trump/

>>533323889
What rapist?

>>533357413
>corroborating witnesses, images or timestamped records
none of those are strictly necessary for someone to be guilty 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in criminal court (though they greatly help). And this was a civil court where the standard of evidence is lower at merely a 'preponderance of the evidence'.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/preponderance_of_the_evidence

>>533358700
>Trump claimed he wasn't sexually attracted to her, but during the deposition he confused her for his ex wife

Source:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ex-wives-access-hollywood-big-fat-hoax-highlights-trumps-deposition-e-rcna82878
>“It’s Marla,” Trump said when shown the photo, pointing at Carroll but referring to his second wife, Marla Maples. “That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife,” he continued before being corrected by his lawyer, Alina Habba. “No, that’s Carroll,” Habba said.

>Trump then said the picture was “very blurry.”

>Asked by Kaplan if his three wives were his “type,” Trump said, “Yeah.”

and he also said his wifes were his type right after he confused her for them.

>>533358572
Donald Trump has been a famous person since the 1980s. It would be pretty easy to describe him, you Zoomer simp. I dismiss the rest of your argument. You are wrong and a timewaster. Go do something better with your Friday night/whatever time it is in Bombay or China.

>>533358700
>roll
Gotta update that translation software, jam boy.

>>533358792
>civil court
Yep. And you have ignored everything myself and other posters have said about this case. You lost and are a fool and disingenuous.

>>533347021
>allegations
>relationship with
>no rapes
>no children fucked
I notified the FBI that you are part of a pedophile ring based on conclusions drawn by your own methodology.

>>533323889
I fucking hate revenge fantasy movies. Like movies where dude kills guy who raped daughter. Nothing but boomer slop. Anyone that watches that shit. Or yellowstone, is a fucking faggot

>>533355109
>an approximate date
Ergo not credible.

Why are white anglo women constantly getting muh rape bunch of fat bitches trying to appear desirable.

>>533359058
They knew eachother and had been photographed together.

>>533358700
another article that talks about why trump lost the case:
https://www.nita.org/s/product/carroll-v-trump-a-case-won-in-pretrial/01t8a000007rFwbAAE

>>533358916
that is circumstantial speculation, not evidence

>>533323889
You’re talking about a very small population of brainwashed sycophants that do not believe Trump raped any women nor is incapable of doing no wrong. Outliers believe that he is controlled by others who are blackmailing him to make him do their bidding. There are those that are finally waking up to the reality that Trump is not the same guy they once supported- the guy who was going to reveal the true rapists while he drained the swamp, but found more pressing issues than his relationship with Epstein and his perverted tastes.

Knowing what they know about today, they aren’t flying Trump flags so loudly and proudly these days- especially since he’s gone back on many of the promises he ran his campaign on. The ones still dragging that cross around have chosen to remain blind on the Trump of today preferring the man they fell for before his descent into madness.

>>533359557
circumstancial evidence is evidence.

>>533357112
other witnesses called at the trial:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/05/trump-rape-trial-witness-tracker-00095179

including people who worked at the store.

>>533359610
>circumstancial evidence
It's circumstantial speculation, not circumstantial evidence.

>>533359532
He's been photographed with hundreds of thousands of people. He has been one of the most famous people in the world for decades. And?

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>>533323889
The entire country is filled with idiots, morons, imbeciles, browns and kikes. Don't try to measure it according to reason.

>>533359655
Correlation not causation? No way!

>>533359557
>>533359655
Why do you call it circumstantial speculation? It's testimony of the defendant. He said he's attracted to her and confused her for his wife.

>>533359637
OK. Care to detail why this never became a criminal charge with all this so-called evidence? Your google search at some timewasting link you didn't even read is not evidence. Pull out and provide evidence, the burden of guilt is on you, accuser. You have as much evidence as I do you that I accuse you as a child rapist. Come on, boy. It's your argument to prove.

>>533359697
trump said he shopped at that same store where she accused him of assaulting her.

>>533359637
>According to Martin, Carroll came to her a day or two after the alleged incident and told her
>during the 1990s, the sixth floor of the luxury department store wasn’t very busy, that an attendant wasn’t always present
>He testified that, in the 1990s, Bergdorf remained open late on Thursday evenings
>She testified that in the late 1970s, she randomly encountered Trump on an airplane when the two were seated next to each other. According to Leeds, Trump sexually assaulted her during the flight, groping her breasts and attempting to put his hand up her skirt.
...And yet no one can place him there or the other incident, there was no police report, nor can a date be established.

Not to mention the hearsay. The only thing the demonstrated is it's plausible she was molested in the 80's. That's not evidence of rape.

>>533359927
Where's the hearsay?

>>533359750
>Why do you call it circumstantial speculation
Because it's inference from a 40 year old polaroid picture.

>>533359955
>According to Martin, Carroll came to her a day or two after the alleged incident and told her
With no date given again.

>>533359832
>OK. Care to detail why this never became a criminal charge with all this so-called evidence?
Well, they can't criminally charge him because the statute of limitation passed.

And the standard of evidence in a civil trial is only a preponderance of the evidence rather than beyond a resonable doubt.

>>533347021
>allegations as sourced from cuckipedia
>still no proof

>>533360037
>preponderance of the evidence
Which is ridiculous in this case as there's nothing placing Trump at the site in the alleged timeframe (maybe a year, which is again ridiculous).

>>533359997
Caroll was available for cross examination, so it definitely falls under an exception to hearsay.

>>533359967
No, its trump's comments on the picture. You might dislike that, but testimony from the defendant is not considered circumstancial evidence.

>>533360135
>Caroll was available for cross examination, so it definitely falls under an exception to hearsay.
No, there isn't an exception to hearsay because the witness is available for cross.

It's inadmissable, always. It's not evidence.

>>533323889
>niggers claim to hate white men, but then they tongue my anus and say "it tase' delicious massah"

>>533360109
see this:
>>533359892
>trump said he shopped at that same store where she accused him of assaulting her.

>>533360185
>is not considered circumstancial evidence.
No, speculation on his motives because of misidentification is not circumstantial evidence.

Circumstantial evidence would be eyewitness testimony of him being in the store at the time of the alleged incident.

>>533360237
>>trump said he shopped at that same store where she accused him of assaulting her.
Which still doesn't place him there in the ridiculously large timeframe given.

>>533360198
There are a lot of exceptions to hearsay:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_803
It mentions here that if the person is available at trial it's not hearsay:
>(c) Hearsay. “Hearsay” means a statement that:
>(1) the declarant does not make while testifying at the current trial or hearing; and
>(2) a party offers in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement.
>(d) Statements That Are Not Hearsay. A statement that meets the following conditions is not hearsay:
>(1) A Declarant-Witness’s Prior Statement. The declarant testifies and is subject to cross-examination about a prior statement, and the statement[...]
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_801

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She seems legit lads

>>533360345
Well, learned something.

It's still hearsay even if it's considered admissible.

>>533360278
>No, speculation on his motives because of misidentification is not circumstantial evidence.
Show me proof of your statement.

>>533360185
>You might dislike that, but testimony from the defendant is not considered circumstancial evidence.
Slight correction I should have said that it's not to be considered mere speculation.

>>533360519
Proof that speculation isn't evidence?

>>533359750
His testimony is intentionally vague. Any attempt to interpret his testimony would be purely speculative in nature. This is by design to muddy the waters of accountability.

>>533360588
Yes, I do expect some very solid proof if you are claiming the defendants testimony during a deposition is not evidence you can present at trial

>>533324468
There has been no evidence at all and actually evidence to the contrary. Everyone who continues to tell this lie without evidence should be imprisoned if not executed.

>>533360648
No, speculation on the defendant's testimony is not evidence.

>>533360617
>accusations without preponderance of evidence is undeniable fact!

>>533324468
Do you understand how stupid the average American is? Now every single person on the left side of the bell curve is a liberal, no exceptions. They believe every single thing they ready or hear their other retards say. Boomers also don’t understand people lie on the internet.

>>533359927
It shouldn’t be too hard to determine if he and she were on the same flight- there are manifests listing the passengers and cargo of a flight in the event it crashes. Bank records if they didn’t use cash to purchase the airline tickets.

>>533360952
At over 50 years ago it's probably been legally destroyed.

>>533360788
What’s the speculation here?

>>533361183
That Trump found her sexually attractive due to misidentifying a 40 year old polaroid photo.

>>533325217
Clinton is also in them and we have no problem calling him a pedo but you have their weird thing about Trump being infallible. You built your whole identity around a chomo

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Sorry but,
All of the ((((oxygen)))) out of the room, now.

>>533324468
You don't get to be a major politician without raping (and eating) children

>>533361316
Lawyers are allowed to speculate at trial.
Saying that someone committed the murder because they had bloody finger prints on the murder weapon is also speculation.

>>533358145
And you're gay!

>>533351257
I will testify that you're a faggot, a rapist and a nonce.

>>533361831
>Lawyers are allowed to speculate at trial
No. Provide proof.

>>533361831
>Lawyers are allowed to speculate at trial.
You do realize that "Objection, reason: speculation", is a thing, right?

>>533361831
Ev
I
Dence

>>533361897
Neither is accusations based off of hard evidence like prints on a murder weapon speculation.

>>533361993
DNA is circumstancial evidence.

>>533361993
>complete insane comparison
so verifiable prints on a murder weapon hold the same weight as something someone said about an event that supposedly happened decades earlier with no evidence to back up their words? You should check yourself in somewhere for your own safety at this point.

>>533362116
Bloody fingerprints are not as it would require the defendant to have handled the weapon when it was covered in blood or their hands were.

>>533361897
That’s referring to something else:
https://police.byu.edu/0000019b-a3dc-d24e-a3ff-a7ddec430001/representing-yourself-for-protective-orders
It means Lawyers can’t ask witnesses to guess

Lawyers are allowed to use evidence to create a theory for their case.

>>533362180
Read up a bit, it's to demonstrate the absurdity of his claim about speculation.

>>533362180
>>533362186

Someone innocent could have picked up the weapon after the murder was committed.

>>533362263
Which is direct evidence of them handling the murder weapon you retard.

>>533362286
And it’s still technically the same sort of speculation you were complaining about to say that they’re the murderer because they touched the murder weapon.

>>533323889
nigger

>>533333333

>>533362359
>And it’s still technically the same sort of speculation
No, it's not. Bloody fingerprints are direct evidence of handling.

There's direct and circumstantial evidence, direct places the suspect at the scene.

>>533323889
If you do X, then Y

Fucking kike faggot.

>>533361876
lawyers are allowed to talk about evidence and draw conclusions from it to show someone had a motive to commit a crime.

>>533362529
>talk about evidence
Ergo not from speculation. They can speculate on evidence, inference from speculation isn't admissible.

>>533362429
Touching the weapon is not inherently evidence of committing murder or even being at the scene of the murder.
Someone could have moved the weapon afterwards.

>>533362263
>whatabout
Yeah so where does your crazy whore lady have any evidence that supported her crazy horseshit accusation, again? An orange stain on the wall of a dressing room a corporation allowed her rape again? Why didn't she sue them? And again, where's that fingerprint evidence?

>>533362678
I need to see a source for your claim about court.

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>>533323889
oh look its the faggot canuck again........ lol i just knew it was you....... fuck off loser, trumps a king now. u suck.

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>>533323889
Because they are retarded enough to believe baseless accusations against a person they already don't like
>Accuse your enemy of what you're doing
Yeah

>>533362682
>Touching the weapon is not inherently evidence of committing murder
Direct evidence places the suspect at the scene you retard. It doesn't have to demonstrate they did it. Circumstantial evidence is for evidence that shows the suspect was around at some point.

>>533324468
Highly likely. But no definite proof so far. Epstein tried to get Trump into a pussy trap with underage teens. Who knows what they did with 18-year-olds they were likely banging. Trump is very suspicious none the less. Anyone else wants to bring in millions of rapists. So it is supporting an alleged rapist who is proven to keep out other rapists. That is how bad things are.

>>533362817
No, it does not automatically place them at the scene of the crime.

Examples of how they could have been somewhere else
They could have touched the weapon then someone stole it and comitted a murder somewhere else. Or they could have found the discarded weapon after the murderer ran away and got rid of it.


thinking that because someone handled the weapon they were at the scene of the crime is speculation.

>>533363207
>, it does not automatically place them at the scene of the crime
Yes it does, that's what direct evidence is.

>>533363207
>They could have touched the weapon then someone stole it and comitted a murder somewhere else.
Then their prints aren't bloody retard.
>Or they could have found the discarded weapon after the murderer ran away and got rid of it.
Then they were at the scene.

Direct evidence directly links them to the scene.

>>533323959
The only other man I'd let rape my daughter is Trump (PBUH)

>>533323889
>This shit ass leaf thread gets 200+ replies
Lol.

>>533363330
It's this doofus >>533363207

>>533362945
>Highly likely. But no definite proof so far.
So guilty until proven innocent? Fascist. This ain't Europe.

>>533362186
>>533363229
Wrong. Bloody fingerprints are circumstancial evidence:
https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/news/news-stories/2017/fingerprint-science.html

>>533363285
>Then their prints aren't bloody retard.
It could be bloody for some reason unconnected to the murder.
>Then they were at the scene.
The scene of the murder is not necessarily where the murder weapon is discarded. A murderer can take the weapon with them and throw it away at another location.

>>533325118
Nato at 1 % strength

>>533363405
>https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/news/news-stories/2017/fingerprint-science.html
...It's direct evidence because they're bloody not because they're fingerprints you utter moron.

>>533363458
blood is circumstantial evidence

https://theforensicteacher.com/the-myths-of-circumstantial-evidence/
https://www.crime-scene-investigator.net/blood-in-murder-investigation.html
https://klgflorida.com/blog/what-is-circumstantial-evidence/

Most evidence in court cases is circumstancial:
https://www.kajiokalawgroup.com/cases-won-on-circumstantial-evidence-difference-between-direct-physical-evidence-inference-reasoning-more/

>>533323889
Who has those fantasies? That's so fucking retarded, Whites don't even think along those lines at all. We want to prevent things from occurring in the first place, not after the fact revenge.

>>533363661
>blood is circumstantial evidence
By itself, the bloody fingerprints on the identified murder weapons is not by itself.

>>533363742
Like any shit they threw against Trump has anywhere near this detail of evidence besides some crazy old roastie imagining something that happened decades ago but she decided only during the height of TDS decided something happened at some point in time and then hired lawyers who would push any case they thought would result in money at some point.
I hate how young, naive, and foreign this board is.

>>533362704
I already showed you the evidence used in the trial.
Trump screwed himself over with his testimony.