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When did womens fashion become so souless
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Because of global corporations. All of our stuff is produced in vietnam. The cotton may be grown in texas, I am not sure, but it is turned into cloth in south asia. The prerequisite for this was big department stores like sears and jcpenney knocking out the local tailors and dressmakers that used to exist in every town. It was a pretty big part of the economy. After the big department stores took over, they controlled what everyone wore, and they also were able to ship the jobs overseas because they had control of the whole industry. Now everything you wear was designed by some gay global corporation the majority of whose workforce is nonwhite and is probably owned by bankers through investment groups.
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Brazilian women still wear silly overtly colourful clothes (pic related), when they can afford them. But we are one of the countries that still have clothes factories, which is not a reality in the first world due to prohibitive costs of hiring, lack of low skill labour. We will see if it remains like this in the future.
The answer to your question is rather easy, it is that people are poor. Jeans tend to last long, they are versatile, and very cheap to produce (so they tend to have low cost compared to manufactured nightmares and living paintings).
As some anons have explained, clothes from Cambodja and Bangladesh are just cheap. And it is very helpful that they are portrayed as the universal american clothing, so the trend feeds on itself.
tl;dr: people are poor, and an universal clothing style is very convenient to global markets.
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By the way, the cost to any of these dresses is the equivalent of $50, which is 1/30 of the brazilian minimum wage. Would you pay $50 dollars for a piece of clothing, that is 1/30 of your income, or would you rather buy durable pair of jeans?
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This. The top one for that period would be mostly gray-brown linen rags.
Another key factor would be industrialization. Before you'd likely see simpler, but unique, hand crafted clothes. After the clothes might've become bolder, but more streamlined and identical.
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>>533332574
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>>533332574
Nobody dressed like that all the time, these dresses are for special occasions, daily clothing was simpler.
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>>533333769
Like clockwork.
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>>533334349
I know it's hard for a bong to understand because you're all always about a decade behind on trends, but no one has worn tight jeans specifically for a while now. And denim was invented in the US, retard
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>>533334578
Nîmes, a city in southern France and capital of the Gard department, is the historical birthplace of denim. In the 17th century, local weavers created "serge de Nîmes," a durable twill fabric that was later shortened to "denim".
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>>533334578
Adult women still wear mostly tight jeans, always have and always will. Zoomettes will stop wearing hobo baggy pants as soon as they get a real job.
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>>533332998
fuck globohomo and all those faggots that share our genes in power giving everything away for a false sense of retarded (((success))), that didn't happen and never will, because dogshit will always be dogshit and nothing else
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>sovlless
zoomies still seething about dripped out white girls baka
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>>533332574
globalism demands you surrender your cultural identity while simultaneously demanding you accept third world cultures to demoralize you and strip you of any national identity. the goal is to get everyone into the same bland and drab uniform as a symbol of accepting slavery. like the simpsons when they made all the kids where the gray uniforms.
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The whole world has become uniform not for any nefarious reason but simply because the whole world has adopted western culture. Few people know this but pants are literally a white thing. They were worn almost exclusively by steppe dwelling horse riding Indo-Aryan nomads and became the default manner of dress for European men and thus Western men and thus the world. People in China wear jeans because Westerners wear jeans. This IS our contribution to world-historical variety of clothing but we are so powerful that everyone else just apes us and now there’s no differentiation at all. Of course brownoids will blame Westerners for this too btw instead of correctly understanding that they choose to ape us.
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>>533333358
have some
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkXUausnv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEuRmW-izTU
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>>533337540
Westerners have never surrendered their culture identity. Rather we developed our own totally unique identity and appearance in world-history and then everyone copied us. Neither does it demand they do it either. They simply emulate us by choice. Nobody is making Chinese women wear jeans and tee shirts. They choose to wear them because other Chinese do and other Chinese do because we do.
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>>533332574
more like
clothing before women's rights
clothing after women's rights
women used to dress conservatively because men actively oppressed them and forced them to hide their tits and ass outside
but now that patriarchy is no more, women are free to dress like whores
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>>533332574
Because we're all living in an Anglo-American monoculture since at least the end of WW2. (It's wunderbar)
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>>533334149
Fucking Americans
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>1pbtid spambot
>79 replies
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>>533338462
Yes those who work aka serfs like i said. Serfs wear jeans to virtue signal they are slaves. Jeans were once wore by miners and were owned by the company store. When the miners clocked out they had to take off their blue jeans and leave them in the mines.
So the working class adopted jeans because they are sturdy, cheap and don't need to be washed a lot. So the working class wears jeans casually ironically. Because dress code for the class isn't even jeans, it's black slacks. All black.
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>>533333769
>implying the U.S. is still White
We’re sub 50% White and dropping like a brick to South African level. Half the White people alive in the U.S. today are geriatric boomers. We’ve been so shitskinned it’s unreal. It’s over.
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>>533338730
The reason working class wears jeans is because they are poor. They don't wash them every wear and because they are sturdy they don't rip easy or show wear or show dirt. Working class people don't even shower everyday....
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>>533338905
Everyone should have an equal opportunity to be exploited. If blacks want to work, let them. The real money is in markets and all this racial infighting is a slight of hand by the capitalist ruling classes.
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My girlfriend wears colourful Latin American dresses with frilly bits on them. It's like being on holiday 24/7. I tell her that she needs to wear a coat in winter but she won't listen, even when it's obvious she's cold.
The wymynz are silly.
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Trend is that time = simpler clothing
People used to put on kilts like this, now it's basically a wrap around for the lower half. Nobody even wears this shit despite it being easy to put on now, it's wedding kit
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>>533339793
I did answer your question. The racial infighting is a slight of hand to keep people at each other's throats while they are exploiting them for profit. America was never a white supremacist nation if that's what you are implying. Because whites were always being exploited as well. You see the middle class in America has all been hollowed out by the capitalists. The USA today is all working class and ruling class. The dividing factor is not race but money.
I think the whole DEI initiative was just a psyop to distract whites that they were being exploited. America has the most billionaires in the entire world. If the working class stopped fighting amongst each other over race then the billionaires couldn't get away with that they do.
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>>533333510
No memeflag. "Style" is jewishly controller these days makes everything plain, boring, and disposable. A linen shirt could last generations but instead a majority of what's available is (((polyester))) shit you have to rebuy every year.
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>>533333980
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>>533333510
I disagree. Capitalism made clothes cheap and abundant. In the past serfs or peasant classes had to mend and sometimes even make their own clothes. People just buy the cheapest mass produced clothes and when they wear out they buy the cheapest mass produced clothes to replaced them.
So t shirts, jeans, socks, underwear and shoes. The peasants who try and "show off" wear jewelry that doesn't wear out but they do cost a lot of money.
Like people wearing big gold chains with a giant golden cross on it. That's probably their most expensive possession besides probably their car.
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>>533340487
Ceremonial clothes are more alluring desu. The same woman in booty shorts and a fit like girl #1 in the image and Ill pick the turkish fit all day. Scantily clad women is the downfall of western civilization.
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>>533332574
It should be illegal for women to wear trousers.
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>>533341041
>lazy
Entire country flooded with turd worlders regardless btw
If everything wasn't jewed you could literally have the entire workforce as actual trained turd worldies not as slaves because they'd actually just be greatful to be in the west instead of whitey waging for ungrateful turd worldies
Everything is upside down
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>>533341041
Men are not lazy but exploited. They don't know what to do when the work they do barely just sustains their lives. Women also don't know what to do when they can't afford children. If men could provide for a family their would be a lot less women having sex without childbirth.
But in the USA the middle class is dead and that's the ideal situation to raise a family.
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>top shows extravagant dress likely of wealthier individuals
>bottom shows working class walmart chic
why not show what average dirt farming peasant girls were wearing before globalization and compare it to modern formal female fashion like contemporary dresses and whatnot?
christ why are reactionaries so fucking dumb holy shit
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>>533338853
But the standards until the internet era were so low that any man above a 7 could be an absolute Don Juan as long as they put in minimal effort and provided the bare minimum. Women would get married off by their parents in their mid 20s to the first random half-decent guy that came across, and the women mostly agreed because being a wife was an integral part of womanhood back then unless you were a nun.
All the stories about sailors that had a wife on each port are not a joke.
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>>533341452
Everyone can afford children you just love your precious debt too much. Immigrants didn't stop you from owning any assets, having friends, and having social status (immigration is bad btw). You are mogged in every variable by your great grandfathers.
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>>533342558
What part of the middle class being dead don't you understand? Middle class wealth is wealth that is recycled back into the American economy. So this allowed the worker to become middle class. Without a middle class there is no real wealth inside the USA. If you hadn't noticed America is an import economy that relies on foreign exports for consumption, This means the money you spend goes into the international markets instead of into the country. This is the reason why wages are depressed and housing is inflated. Everything is globalized and financialized.
The reason why immigrants come to America is to make money and send this money via remittances back to their home countries. Because the purchasing power of the USD is so much higher then in their home countries by design. So as to promote cheap labor in these countries for export of goods to the USA. Immigration is also taking jobs from American citizens. The reason why Americans are in debt is because we have a debt based economy based upon loans and finance. You get can't a house usually without a mortgage(nobody usually has 200k+ cash on hand). Most Americans don't even have 500 dollars in their bank accounts. They are living paycheque to paycheque.
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>>533332574
>Spain
I will discover eden for you, and you will be my Eve
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>>533343034
You do if you don't want them growing up in perpetual slavery which Americans are not inclined to do. Immigrants have figured out a loophole which American natives don't have. They can use the USD higher purchasing power to work here and then live big at home. You see? Immigrants are exploiting the system that was designed to exploit their people and countries. Americans can't do the same except invest which most Americans didn't get the memo and now it's too late. Americans were raised to believe they were free and trusted their government. Americans fought the Iraq war for freedom(or so they believed) and then got a dose of reality that these wars were just about finance.
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>>533332574
Tight jeans and a shirt is hotter and generally looks better than all of the above. Its also not fashion, its everyday wear. The window drapes on shown above are ceremonial bullshit for special occasions.
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>>533333693
id kill myself if i was brazilian
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>>533343266
yeah anon I get it. The average American won't accept lower standards. That's your loophole. Did you know the average person buys 80 pieces of clothing every year? Staying single forever because you need a big house and new clothes and cars and phones means you lose. Things won't be bad forever, that's a midwit take. If you get an average job and NEET at home for 5 years you can easily save $100k. But nobody wants to make these sacrifices. If we threw out all immigrants tomorrow you still would not reproduce because you have no masculine drive to fight entropy and shape the world. You have no real friends, you have no social status, you have nothing. YES you are CORRECT that things are bad but you are not an agent that can fight and build like your ancestors.
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>>533343625
Come to Florianópolis
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>>533343871
Nice boomer talking points like avocado toast and starbucks. Even if you neeted and saved up 100k(ive heard this meme) "Just save up 100k". It's not viable in context. The average price of a house in America is around 300k. So you would need to neet and save 300k for 15 years then swoop up a girl at 35 years old, have children right before the finish line, keep working and presumably your wife keeps working too.
Now this is the meme. Zoomers can do it technically but you can't squeeze blood out of a stone. No kid is ever going to place their life on hold for 15 years to save up 300k to buy a house. And this is presumably a house will still cost an average of 300k in 15 years. Housing has skyrocketed and in 15 years they could be worth 600k or more on average for inflation adjusted. So all this talk about wage slaving and saving up money isn't a solution.
Because the economy is globalized and financialized like i said. There is no solution apart from tearing down the current system and building anew. Which is what MAGA was originally about.
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>>533344275
lol no. Everything makes a difference. We're talking about getting a wife and reproducing. If you want to do that you need money and social status. It's pretty obvious why you can't reproduce
>>533344383
I'm using the work loser very literally. You have literally lost. Why would the women of your dreams choose you? You have nothing
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>>533344453
>"Just save up 100k". It's not viable in context.
I literally did that without working particularly hard and not saving up particularly hard. I made and average of $60k and I just didn't buy that much.
>The average price of a house in America is around 300k.
ever heard of a mortgage? 100k is enough down payment. You also don't need the average house, you could get something cheaper. This is how I know none of you even bothered to learn a skill to get a halfway decent job because all of your foundational beliefs seem to be wrong.
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>>533343983
He's saying save up 100k and then place a downpayment on a house, get a wife and continue wage slaving. His solution is not to be more masculine or tough but to double down on wage slavery. And he thinks nobody knows that he's trying to trick you into having children and getting a mortgage so you will be entrapped into wage slavery.
Doubling down on slavery is not a solution. This is another boomer talking point. They just say work 2 jobs. Which is another way of saying save up 100k without even saying it.
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>>533344753
>Again this is a discussion about reproducing
No i started on you for calling men lazy, you've shifted the goalposts so far.
Also it's funny how you're going on about muh masculine ancestors when you sound like the gayest cunt going on about how you need social status and marriage to pump a load into a female
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>>533344707
Because your entire premise is entrapment. You can save up 100k but once you have a mortgage and kids you will have a lot more bills to pay. So you are trying to trick zoomers into the 2 jobs meme by first making it easy then making it hard and since they will be entrapped they will be forced to slave.
So thus you have completed the cycle of slavery of the western man to the international bankers.
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>>533333732
Globohomo isn't Christian.
>>533333728
Argentinia is populated by White Europeans from North Italy and Spain and they even speak a European language unlike the Turks.
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>>533344906
>No i started on you for calling men lazy
yeah which is obviously in reference to reproducing because that's the only reason to do all this. I don't care what you do bro. I'm sure you're "pumping loads" into women daily and popping out kids like a nigger and definitely not just sitting at how doing nothing.
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It’s true, it’s a funny paradox, the forces/trends of globalization and multiculturalism are extolled with thoughtless slogans like, “Diversity is our strength”, but really they’re ever more and more the forces of a soulless-Westernization of more of the world (maybe specifically Americanization as a particular big one, as the powerhouse of Western hegemony) - fitting ever more and more peoples under the umbrella of a soulless, increasingly secularized, technological modern Western ethos, along with standardized media, fashion, political ideology, philosophical outlook on life, etc. Actually working towards DESTROYING “diversity”, the uniqueness of various cultures.
The McDonaldization of the globe, of society and culture.
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Top row looks ugly AF and reminds me of my grandma and grandma's generation. Why would you want to fuck your grandma? I like modern women who wear jeans, t-shirts, short skirts, crop tops, sports bras and workout at gyms.
If picrel stock photo triggers you, you must be a muslim rat from a 3rd world shithole, or some super conservative 50yr old Euro cuck
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no you just keep your one job after you get the mortgage. If you downpay $100k on a $250k house that's $1272/mo. If you're bringing in at least $3000/mo from a real job and not McDonalds that's completely doable no 2 jobs required.
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Israel is the only country that isn't below replacement or on track to be
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>>533345272
Listen your entire premise is to neet and work some mc job saving up 100k for 5 years. And then pay down a mortgage. So nobody is making 3k a month working one job. So your plan is just nonsensical.
What really your plan is like i said. You are trying to entrap zoomers into reproduction and wage slavery. Once they get the house, wife and kids they will be FORCED to work 2 jobs. And the wife will be working one job at least. Mortgage is just one thing. You have to pay insurance, utilities, food, transportation, stuff for the kids, stuff for you, other expenses. It is a never ending life of wage slavery and spending.
Israel gets money from America for free. I don't care how well jews are doing when they are a privileged and protected class.
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>>533345638
>work some mc job
no, go work a real job. It's like you're not reading
>>533345659
So don't do anything. I hope you're happy with your life, not shitposting. I know from experience that letting your soul rot doing nothing everyday is an awful experience. Maybe you're the 1% that can just NEET forever and die
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>>533345918
The only job zoomers will get is a working class job. So while zoomers are neeting they will work a mc job and then after they get the house will be working the same mc job. Like i said before in America there is no longer any middle class. So you are either working class or the capitalist ruling class.
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>>533345918
The spirit gets strangled regardless, serious question - in your life do you have genuine positive connections with others? I remember talking to a guy on here and with family and friends and he felt severely alone
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>>533345918
>So don't do anything. I hope you're happy with your life, not shitposting. I know from experience that letting your soul rot doing nothing everyday is an awful experience. Maybe you're the 1% that can just NEET forever and die
The issue isn't really the work per se. it's entire context of our lives and the type of work. We are clipped on the schmeckle so we are being denied the full life DLC experience from when we were born. Why wage slave when you can't experience the full life experience as nature intended? It's like i said you can out jew the jew like minorities do from other countries. They aren't clipped and they have a homeland to go back to. So they have the best of both world's while we have the worst of both. Their women are traditional as well and cook for them while ours just want to eat out and won't even cook or clean.
Now i understand the gratification of working but what we call work in America is not it. It's waging. it's being some place and doing tasks you don't want to do. It's doing tasks for money not to fulfill your needs. It's slavery.
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Being a plumber is so hard on your body and you now getting into trades. There's a reason trades pay so well and it's because it wrecks your body.
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>>533346747
well anon you can either fight for what you want in life or you can do nothing. Ultimately those are your only 2 options. Something or nothing. It's your choice.
>>533346765
Do you want me to start blog posting? I've bonded with a few platonic male friends over things like video games and life in general yes.
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>>533347069
>40 hours per want
What a retarded statement, you could never define a universal "want", everyone wants different things. What if I want is a mansion with 100 servants? Are 40 hours a day enough? What job?
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>>533347215
Are you making a point? To live an average life and reproduce you don't need more. I've been arguing that people need less this while time.
>>533347233
lol no you couldn't. That's small talk. It seems that you haven't experienced having real friends. Not gatekeeping just seems like you have not meant the definition of friends let along good friend.
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>>533332574
When you have to ask who, you already know who.
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>>533347025
Yes but you aren't giving the option to fight but instead double on slavery. Minorities fight. They have a homeland. We don't even have a home. We don't have our people or women anymore. That's why they come to America illegally. They are fighting for their races, home and trying out jew the jew.
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>>533347428
So you decided that what everyone wants is your idea of an average life and I am directly challenging that assertion. What if I want to have a lavish lifestyle and throw a party with bitches each weekend? What if I want to be a shut in that goes out only for groceries? What if I want an out of grid trad lifestyle with a big family?
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>>533344109
>colorful clothes was common.
For peasants who lived in fiefdoms? Coloring dyes weren't cheap. Hell shit like purple was the color of royalty because natural purple dyes were difficult to obtain and worth its weight in gold. It wasn't until 1857 with an accident with coal tar created the first synthetic dye for purple.
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>>533347751
you could have at least googled it.
the fucking expensive dyes that royalty used was to set them apart from the common folks because color was so available that they needed to resort on expensive imported stuff.
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>>533347073
I like women with fit hot bodies. Top row may look good when young, but will all turn into ugly, fat grandma bodies when they're old, with loose and sunburnt skin.
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>>533347428
Also I'd like to know if any of your friends would visit you to watch a movie with you
The concept of friends seems no more surface level than talking to someone in a store plus mutual unpaid labour/money lending, at the very least they or you are using the other for the normalfag desperation for social status.
I'm not saying this is bad its just odd how people are shamed for not having friends and gatekept from having them
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I knew this thread would evolve into talking about this. I'm not sure either why purple was a royal color when dyes could be mixed.
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Browm mutts
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Kikes lover
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It is a real shame that women mostly wear pants these days, there is nothing prettier than a delicate woman in a dress or skirt
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>>533333486
I don't think it's about economics since there are designer jeans that cost like $200 or more for a pair. plus women have always been willing to waste money on dumb shit they think is fashionable. it's really all about laziness. fashion has always been something women did to gatekeep each other. modern women have formed a pussy cartel where they have all silently agreed to stop trying when it comes to their appearances since dudes will line up to fuck them anyway even when they walk around in pajamas.
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>>533353719
>muh pussy cartel
That is simply because those women are not looking for a man to marry them - or at least not putting the effort.
If they did they would be trying to look above the competition. Upper middle class girls and above (here at least) do this still.
The others have been manipulated into not really thinking about their own future. So why bother competing with the other girls if Alpha Chad can fuck her if she catches him in the mood (when there's no hotter fuck to have right now)?
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They are ultraconformists constantly weighing which is the most accepted option whenever discerning. It's a natural state of females to "sus-out" any perceived deviance from accepted norms. The problem arises from modern consumerism whereby females watch covert or overt advertisements and assign their own culture a divergence score based on their perception of its deviance from accepted behaviour/apparel/thought/etc.
Women are the goodest goys, they account for some 70-80% of all household spending so men basically don't matter in the grand scheme of consumerism.
e.g.
>women see famous actors wearing jeans daily as a fashion statement
>women internalize jeans as a mark of luxury/youth/beauty
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>>533332574
around 1910 they adopted loose formless gowns which was a prostitute thing I think which is probably again a jewish fetish. The "left wing" style of the degenerate 20's was androgyny, puffy dresses and skirts were thrown out for loose fitting kneehigh drapes for the "new age woman" that gave blowjobs in exchange for illegal mob liquor and drugs
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And the entire movement was called essentially "the young prostitute movement", it gave way to the beat generation which was the precursor of the hippy movement. You can see the same loose fitting gown like clothing with the hippies.