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Redpill me about Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they pedophiles?
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>>533338827
Jehovah's Witnesses are the truest and most purest form of Christianity similar to that of the 1st Century Christians. We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.
Our primary message is that of God's Kingdom now ruling in heaven by Jesus Christ who has been enthroned as King. We use God's name and teach it to others openly. We are the only ones actively preaching the message from your local neighborhoods, your local businesses, to missionary work in the most distance lands in the world. All of this without shedding one drop of blood or firing one bullet at an enemy.
JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history. In fact, they were imprisoned in the LOLacaust for refusing to war for Hitler WHILE they were imprisoned in the US for refusing to war for the US. Right now, there are JW in prison in Uzebekistan, South Korea, and Armenia for refusing military service. A few months ago Russia officially banned their work for refusing to be nationalistic. They are the most innocent of all the sects.
Here's a video we made for the children.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/05/05/jehovahs-witness-video-under-fi re-for-homophobic-message/
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>>533338827
I've known two Jehovah's witnesses in my life and they've both been fucked up. The first guy grew up not celebrating birthdays or Christmas so he never got presents, he's 35 lives with his mother works at a grocery store and is a raging alcoholic. The second one I met in the military his whole family disowned him for enlisting because apparently that's a "mortal sin" in there religion. This guy is pretty stable but doesn't believe in any religion now and wants nothing to do with it.
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>>533340248
#1 alcoholism is very common among JW especially when you know you are part of a bullshit nonsensical cult
#2 JW are prohibited from joinings the military but I have to call BS on this because the entire book of Jehovah's the old testament is a book dedicated to military conquest
But JW can't see the bullshit on their own rules
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I have a friend who grew up JW but didn't practice and went to the Army. Now's he back with them and moved to a city with a ton of them in it at their request. Dude is fucked and sounds miserable and I talk to him less and less
Oh well, man can make his own decisions.
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>>533339729
>We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.
Fastest growing population of settlements for covering up systemic child abuse aside, that is such an egotistical thing to say. Still you guys can't figure out why no one likes you, and it's not because you choose to be no part of this system, to the rest of us that's your best feature. My grandpa's brother was a minister and he would say, "to a man, nobody knows the scriptures better than they do" you guys should be proselytizmaxxing on that.
>They are the most innocent of all the sects.
Not sure if this is related, but they are also the least charitable of all the sects, only to be outdone by Scientologists and Jews when it comes to only getting involved when there's an angle for them and only on that angle. In a disaster they'll bring you printed pamphlets, before blankets or water, and tell themselves that what they did was more important for you than your warmth or hydration.
I think it's funny that the org seems to be fully aware of the Jay Queue and yet still acts just like them.
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>>533342919
Literally did
Was called Australian Royal Commission
Doesn't happen in the U.S for the same reason Jews, Catholic evangelics and other groups with Child Molestation are allowed to exist.
It is called 1st Amendment and Freedom of cult
If it weren't for the constitutional right a long time ago JWs would have been crushed by the government
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>>533344093
The pretty ones live in Utah.
Unless you are willing to relocate
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>>533344386
My brother, the USA would not be interested in me. I am melanin deficient, and cursed with a high IQ.
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>>533342919
Not all child abuse involves kidnapping or trafficking, so there's usually not someone to "free". Most people who are sexually abused are abused by someone they know personally. Parents, teachers, babysitters... pastors.
Now imagine if you will, you have a pastor who sexually abuses people they become alone with. A victim comes forth, but because there are no other witnesses that the victim, the preparator is left alone. And the victim within this community is discouraged from talking to the police... who, if given a fast enough response time, can use a "rape kit" to gather forensic evidence and build a case against the rapist.
It is your two witness rule that keeps rapists in your community. And very often when a second victim comes forth, perpetrators may be shuffled off to other congregations quietly instead of handed over to the police.
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>>533343914
>Literally did
>Was called Australian Royal Commission
Nothing happened. Bread and Circuses. Look what Russia did to JW. They banned us, they liquidated all our assets, they blocked our website. YET, no accusations of Child sexual trafficking. They're could have used that but didn't.
Child Molestation isn't allowed to exist in the USA. Look at the NXIUM cult. They got liquidated and disbanded for human trafficking. Epstein files are exposed. The reason why the Catholic Church, Jews and Scientologist get away with it is because of connections to Intelligence Agencies and allegiances with powerful conglomerates and elites. JW have nothing like that. So why haven't they been liquidated yet? Why hasn't the USA and Australia gone full Russia yet?
>Doesn't happen in the U.S for the same reason Jews, Catholic evangelics and other groups with Child Molestation are allowed to exist.
Answered above
>It is called 1st Amendment and Freedom of cult
That's for Freedom of speech, doesn't cover organized human trafficking.
>If it weren't for the constitutional right a long time ago JWs would have been crushed by the government
Look up who in the USA has the record of most appearances in the Supreme Court.
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>>533344712
>Now imagine if you will, you have a pastor who sexually abuses people they become alone with. A victim comes forth, but because there are no other witnesses that the victim, the preparator is left alone. And the victim within this community is discouraged from talking to the police... who, if given a fast enough response time, can use a "rape kit" to gather forensic evidence and build a case against the rapist.
This is not a federal matter like organized human trafficking and pedophile rings. This is a family matter. If a teacher molest a kid at school it's criminal case where a teacher abused THEIR AUTHORITY AND POSITION OF POWER to cause harm on a student. If the teacher goes home and sexually abuses a minor in the privacy of his home then this is now a family matter and criminal matter. It is no longer a matter between the school and the student.
99% of JW sexual abuse cases happened at home where no power of authority was abused to gain leverage over a victim. Aka, a teacher inviting a student to his private home for "extra credit." That's why there no JW sexual abuse problems among our organization because those matters happened at home, not in a Kingdom Hall, not at our Bethel branches, not at out assemblies. THIS is where the misrepresentation is. Those thousands of sex abuse cases were all 99% AT HOME. Not at our general functions and meeting location and not within the authority given to a JW.
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>>533344712
>It is your two witness rule that keeps rapists in your community.
This is actually very misrepresented. There have been no attempted coverups. The "two witness" policy is not to protect perpetrators. It is to form a committee and declare a person excommunicated. This policy does not deny anyone from going to the police. This policy is grossly misrepresented by the media
>And very often when a second victim comes forth, perpetrators may be shuffled off to other congregations quietly instead of handed over to the police.
Absolutely nonsense. The media exposed this procedure from the Catholic Church. Yet no one in the Media has ever claimed this about JW
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Fake doctrine, wolves in sheep clothes.
They deny the divinity of Christ, that should be enough to stay away from them, they use a translation of the Bible made by themselves, which is highly tampered. They target vulnerable people, women and old ladies who are more agreeable, and when they are old they try to make them sign stuff so they can legally stole the inheritance from rightful owners, that happen to a close friend and it's one of they things they commonly do everywhere.
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>>533347716
They have several schemes.
Because saying "NO" in this religion is not allowed that gives them a gate for all sort of abuses.
Not only child molestation
But expropriation of Widows
They make their members purchase and renovate their church to later sell it as Burger Kings
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>>533346159
>all 99% AT HOME.
but then went on to still hold positions of authority, like elder and presiding overseer and handed vulnerable confused kids to assert their given authority over. When a kid or wife tried to seek help or guidance from other members of the flock they were often gaslit and returned to their offenders. The JW's were like a privatized Saville factory for decades, and that's The Truth!
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>>533351133
It's crazy to me with how specifically sadistic that guy was that he didn't gin up enough enmity to be torn limb from limb by a crowd of pitchforks and torches by his smirk alone.
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>>533351727
It is fucked up
Joe Rogan always denounce JWs for the cult they are
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>>533351350
Correct
History of Michael and Jesus
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527543621/#q527549697
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527543621/#q527549748
Biblical link between Michael and Jesus
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527543621/#q527549458
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527543621/#q527549517
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527543621/#q527549619
>>533351722
False Decretals
>>533351044
So why haven't the feds kicked down our doors and liquefied our assets? Why haven't law firms gathered exJW for billions in lawsuit money like they did with the Catholic Church? When Russia banned us why didn't they accuse us of child abuse to enforce their justification to ban us?
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Jehovah’s Witnesses take steps to prevent the problem. For example, in the following list we can see how often the subject is addressed.
Some of the articles are study articles, which means they were considered as a congregation study lesson for each of the 100,000+ congregations we have around the world:
2018 - Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Scripturally Based Position on Child Protection
2015 - (1) We Protect Our Children (video); (2) Jehovah’s Witnesses Educate Parents and Children to Protect Against Sexual Predators
2014 - If Your Child Is Abused
2007 - (1) A Danger That Concerns Every Parent; (2) How to Protect Your Children; (3) Make Your Family a Safe Haven
2005 - Parents, Protect Your Precious Inheritance
2002 - Protect Your Children
2000 - Children Deserve to Be Wanted and Loved
1999 - (1) Children in Crisis (2) The Crisis Is Worldwide (3) Who Will Protect Our Children?
1993 - (1) Your Child Is in Danger!; (2) How Can We Protect Our Children?; (3) Prevention in the Home (4) If Your Child Is Abused
1991 - (1) The Innocent Victims of Child Abuse; (2) The Secret Wounds of Child Abuse (3) A Time to Heal
1985 - (1) Child Molesting—Every Mother’s Nightmare; (2) Child Molesting—‘Who Would Do a Thing Like That?’; (3) Child Molesting—You Can Protect Your Child
1983 - Help for the Victims of Incest
1981 - Incest—The Hidden Crime
In spite of what our haters claim, many of these articles make a point to express the need to tell the authorities about the abuse. Along with telling parents, police, doctors, or teachers.
Also keep in mind that we publish our articles in hundreds of languages so we are providing information and assistance on how to deal with these issues in places and cultures from all over the world!
As a result, Jehovah’s Witnesses are very aware of the seriousness of the problem, how to prevent it, and how to act if it happens.
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>>533353645
They already did in Russian
Western Goverments don't do this.
They just make a commission like in Australia and they build lawsuits to each individual
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-2 9-jehovahs-witnesses
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>>533354008
Hahahahaha
Take their biased publications as proof JW don't abuse children