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>>533349891
>tech bros becomes global emporers
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>>533349891
>still waiting for my $5k doge check
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>>533349891
It's a simple conclusion based in logic. I don't get people who are against it. Do they see their only purpose for existing is to work? Can they not imagine a world where you're not REQUIRED to labor?
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>>533350147
>the satanic pedophiles who run the gov are gonna give me free money and I'm sure they have no ulterior motive for doing so
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>>533350147
It's a simpleton conclusion based on imagination. The less you understand about economies, the more you buy into these garbage predictions.
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>>533349891
Dumb cuck doesn't understand economic calculation
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>>533350004
Two more weeks, keep voting and trust the plan!
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>>533350147
You dumb retard.
Since the dawn of time, the basis for economy was human labor. If machines owned by corporations take that away from humans, the economy becomes null. Inflation like never before would ensue instantly and before long, money would be worthless.
Then what? What do you use to acquire anything as a citizen? You don't work, you don't produce anything.
The answer is slavery, you will become a slave for corporations in exchange for goods, after all, some things can never be done by AI.
Then the remaining few who won't have the luxury of slaving themselves because excess of slaves, will kill each for the little resources given away by the corpo lords, who in time they will come to worship.
I give a maximum of 5 decades after the machine takeover until the global population drops under 2 billion.
The solution for this is as always, the death of all jews.
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The issue with this is if you are in a job that isn't likely to be replaced for decades, like mine, i just have to keep waging while bottom feeders get to sit around doing nothing. Do i get topped up with UBI? Then ill just quit and my work will go undone. The quality of life offered by UBI is likely a stepping stone to pods and bugs. Because there is no way they're going to willingly provide luxury to the masses for nothing.
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>>533351085
People don't understand that 8 billion people are walking around and most of them are working.
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>>533350147
Rightoid politics, psychology, worldview, and philosophy all center around hatred.
Every single thought of theirs is consumed with the people they hate.
Nationalists hate foreigners
Evangelicals hate sinners
Conservatives hate trannies, gays, and women
Libertarians hate the government
Racists hate blacks
Nazis hate Jews
They'd literally rather starve then see their (or anyone's) tax dollars go to someone they hate. Everything is secondary to harming the designated enemy.
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>>533349891
It's flawed from the outset, you really think the uber rich are going to hand trillions of welfare dollars to poor people for nothing, especially dumb niggers? Billions would die or be sterilized in this theoretical scenario.
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>>533350299
Valid argument, but what's the alternative?
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>>533350861
You're arguments are essentially "we have to keep everything how it us now forever because it's the only thing I know". It's very much an NPC way of thinking. You are limited to being nothing more than a product of the world you were born into.
We can't stop advancing simply because you are stuck on old ideas.
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>8.5 billion humans
>nobody will have to werk!! omg!!
this fantasy has been around for hundreds of years. first it was slavery, then illegal immigration, and now AI.
yeah nah, there's TOO MANY PEOPLE. sorry but if there were less people I could be self sufficient by living with nature instead of having to suck on jew cock for a living
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>>533351382
>and leftist politics revolves around their shared hatred of White ethnic Europeans and men
Do you think such motley crews as leftist coalitions are assembled the world over on the basis of shared love and understanding?
>>533351470
Nah you’re correct. Only retards who could buy this anti-White extreme leftist shit in the first place would even be able to believe in luxury gay black space communism
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>>533351559
No you're still trying to apply those old ideas on resources to a future where there's an abundance of resources. Do you really think labor was the end goal for humanity? It's bizarre that so many people can't imagine a world beyond it.
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>>533351501
You live in fantasy land, mutt.
When reality hits, you better put a bullet in your head and spare the world of your existence.
The very reason why you can have that idea and are fooled into thinking what you do, is because now you have billions of meatbags working and giving things value, giving human life value, supporting an economy by humans, for humans.
If that goes away, you remain a worthless sack of shit, and you will be even less in the eyes of those commanding the machines. Or do you somehow believe that the corporatists who suck resources for their data centers and fuck up the economy even now, would suddenly grow a spine, and are not lying through their teeth now?
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>>533350004
two more weeks, little buddy, just you wait.
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>>533351501
>anon thinks a rejection of communism and socialist anti-male and anti-White policies means no one cares about progress
Have you ever considered there are lots of intelligent people out there who readily understand the snake oil you are shilling is the opposite of progress, both economically and socially?
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>>533351836
> Do you really think labor was the end goal for humanity?
Has there ever been a society without it? Can you look to nature and find animals that simply don’t need to eat or compete for their own resources? Existence is resistance. It’s not our problem your dopamine receptors got burned out as a child
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>>533349891
I find it rather amusing that he thinks we will still be living in a capitalistic society with “producers” and “consumers” rather than the “slaves” and “shareholders”, by the time automation really kicks off
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>>533351904
AI is a meme as a disembodied construct.
You give AI a mechanical body to operate and perform labor, and suddenly billions of mouth breathers who need days off and have human needs lose their purpose on the job market.
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>>533351382
I dont hate any of those groups. I simply want them to stop dictating how my hard earned taxes are spent, I want them to allow me to live my life the way I want. Many of the groups you have listed actively hate me and are a threat to my way of life and even my life itself. You confuse passion for hatred. I do not hate them, i do not fear them. I pity them, because they will not like the result if they keep pushing men like me into the corner they have been for the past decades.
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>>533352099
You make the perfect analogy.
Look at africa, filled with niggers barely suviving because they don't work, their entire existence being sustained by the west in which people work, while a few criminal nigger leaders enslave them, and decide who lives and who dies.
That will be a reality for the whole world in an AI supported society.
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>>533352126
It can only do very limited roles, driving cars yeh, it's a standardised data set with clear intervention points, same with factory go fetch. But AI trying to quote and install a deck for some roastie on her shitty welfare house? Lol lmao even
This is why they keep going on about agi. No agi = no ability to switch roles and deal with assymetric environments or datasets across broad roles.
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>>533350147
I can't see how UBI would work in a market economy.
Markets inherently devalue any gain we make since they are based on relative productivity. Example. When computers were invented, did your work reduce 10x? No, you just got 10x more work to do, since you can process more. So the market has effectively devalued the advancements made. And it is always like this. It is always a fight to not end up in the bottom 10%, absolute output does not matter.
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>>533352404
Well, guess what.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-claims-agi-has- been-achieved-can-create-billion-do llar-businesses-172225126.html
Now remember that we have had bots powered by AI for a long while now, they are getting more and more specialized for every task.
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>>533349891
It's just crazy mate.
This is supposed to be a pro-human or post-human system? It only takes five or max ten years, not just one generation, for people to be permanently handicapped. Communism is a murder.
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>>533352661
Your example is wrong.
When computers were invented, it made work easier and faster for humans, introduced new processes that allowed for systematization and increased production powered by humans, while also introducing countless jobs for humans to maintain these computers.
AI and AI run machines do not do that, they effectively replace humans, not ease and amplify their labor.
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>>533352559
They wanted to condition dissident elements to not trust government mandated vaccines, so that they can release a far more deadly virus in the near future. Then those distrustful of the government will refuse the vaccine and die.
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DR ANA MARIA MIHALCEA CLAIMS NANOTECH IN EVERY HUMAN BEING ALIVE 04/17/26(Fri)23:15:38 No.533353093▶
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>>533352639
>>this would solve everything
What's everything, my le fellow redditor? :D
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>>533352993
*science fiction AI and AI run machines do not do that
*they also don't face any type of resource constraint
*they are mass produced and run on an infinite energy source to outcompete chinks working for $200 a month
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>>533352993
And did anything get cheaper relative to hours worked due to computers? We have to rent apartments and the food costs the same except it is now processed industrial food from chernobyl in ukraine with God knows what additives
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>>533350056
dude stop making shit up, elons the real deal and he's gonna get us to Mars in 10 years!
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>>533353325
You're right, anon. I don't know what I was thinking.
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>>533350004
cool it with the antisemitism Israel needs that money
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>>533353209
They did actually, but money lost value to certain extents because of automatization and human labor being valued less. That's what inflation is, that's why inflation in a AI run society will be even more brutal.
Check the value of gold in weight and what you can buy with it, compared to the value of any currency, over time. Gold kept value and the same quantity of it can get you the same things as 100 years ago, or more, while money didn't, money just slumped.
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>>533350235
people that are bored
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>>533353061
Or YOU are trying to use reverse psychology to get me to take it
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>>533349891
>Extremely hard today to even get a job because almost all Job postings are fake in order to steal your data, trick investors into believing the company is expanding, and to pressure current employees into believing they are replacable
>Even when you do get a job, it’s genuine hot garbage
>Office jobs barely pay above livable wages, while jobs below that don’t even bother to pay enough for rent and food
>Climbing the corporate ladder is basically impossible unless you’re related to a manager.
>Annual raises aren’t paying enough to outpace inflation
>Any profit your company makes goes straight to the CEO’s pocket and your bonus is a shitty pizza party
>Remember how climbing the corporate ladder is only possible if you “have connections”? Well now everyone above you is now a genuine retard, which means they are constantly making retarded decisions
>Said retard decisions go completely unpunished as CEOs can just leave before shit hits the fan
>By that, I mean they layoff most of the company just to start using undeveloped AI/Jeets no one besides also genuine retard investors asked for
>If you survive the AI/Jeet layoffs, you won’t last when the company goes under
>Have to repeat the cycle of finding a new job again
>”Wtf, why do young people who can barely pay rent and will never own a home and any notion that Capitalism was ever about merit has been shattered want stable income that lets them afford necessities, and more importantly ISN’T THINKING ABOUT THE POOR BILLIONAIRES THAT LAYED THEM OFF AND BRAGGED ABOUT RECORD PROFITS?!?”
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>>533353325
The Mars project is absolute folly.
Just go and view on Youtube, Richard Feynman's vid about the actual engineering of a spaceship to merely go to Mars and return, nevermind landing some equipment or establishing a base.
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>>533349891
He is absolutely right.
If you think it can't happen, look at F2P P2W games.
You are allowed to be a F2P leech, but if you don't want to get trampled on you better pay up.
It's the same as UBI, you will be given enough for basic necessity, like food, water and a shack, but still have to work for other amenities.
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>>533353811
The entire world isn't america.
Inflation happened everywhere, not just in nigger shitholes, more people should naturally create greater demand and increase value, except it didn't. Because we always find new ways to automate things, to increase production with minimals resources and lower costs, hence the enshittification of everything. That reduces the value of labor and with it the value of money.
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>>533351382
>Racists hate blacks
Racists hate everyone who's not like them, e.g. white racists hating asians, arabs, latinos, etc. If they hate only blacks, they're just xenophobic against blacks.
I swear to god, you retards can't get anything right
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>>533350494
thankfully robots are still pretty useless (or at least not cost-effective) when it comes to recognizing and adapting work to simple little things that come up, things do not always stay the same in places like warehouses
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>>533350299
They are going to do it because they require consumers. If not, the stock doesnt go up. Now this of course will create a permanent underclass who will own nothing. Money will just become a token to buy goods
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>>533354123
are you just trying to be even more pedantic than him or what
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Plato was wrong about a lot of things, but he was right about one thing. None of this society shit would be necessary if everyone weren't greedy as fuck. If we'd have just been content with a simple lifestyle, wars and industrial levels of suffering would never have been necessary.
Even now, we could maintain 80% of our lifestyles with half or less of the work. Just stop making random consoomer junk that goes straight from a manufacturer to a landfill. Stop having 20 different fast food joints within 5 miles of every Amerigoy home. Stop spending trillions on the military. Stop fucking shit up on purpose so you can scam people into paying more.
So much time and effort is wasted simply because people are fucking retarded and can't figure out how to work together. The working lives of billions straight into the fucking garbage can. If you think about this too long you'll go insane.
>muh ubi
there will be no ubi
get back to work wagie!
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>>533350109
One of the few takes he is correct about, he's just leaving out the part where they slaughter 80+% of the global population once they are capable of automation. If it makes you feel better, their blunder of using jeets to achieve this gives us another decade to prepare.
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>>533351836
>future where there's an abundance of resources
anon the earth's population is exploding exponentially while arable land is shrinking. mathematically the future is almost guaranteed to be the exact opposite of abundance. famine, plague, war. nature corrects. the elite prepare for a new feudal structure.
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>>533349891
UBI is a pipedream
They already have zero concern for inflating currency and degrading our lifestyle, why believe they'll give you more when there's no repercussions to giving you less?
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>>533354372
It implies that whoever assumed it is a braindead nigger.
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>>533354620
You are completly clueless m8. Companies are investing trillions into reorganizing their business to be full AI. Models are good enough to replace the entire white collar sector. We are the point where humans are more of a nuisance in the productive process, their bodies is the only real advantage they have, until robotics catches up
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>>533354736
I think you have let yourself be swept up in the hype. are you actually capable of programming one of these LLMs or do you just take their superpower claims at face value?
>Models are good enough to replace the entire white collar sector
then why haven't they?
>until robotics catches up
why do you think that is guaranteed? isnt it just as likely that it will always be more cost effective to use humans, no matter how advanced we get? there are limits to what is possible on all things in this world.
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>>533354171
That's what the jew made you believe.
Have a gander at stock markets to be proven wrong. More people needing more things always drives the value of goods up.
Yet at the same time the value of the money used to acquire such goods drops because human labor is worth less and less thanks to automatization. Inflation has been accelerating more and more specifically since the dawn of automatization.
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>>533349891
Nigger our government can't get health care and utilities for your gay retarded data centers right.
Eat shit with your UBI checks.
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>goyim cattle desperate for handouts from their masters
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>>533354970
>low standard
the most primitive stone age hunter gatherers societies can endure for millennia while technological empires rise and fall completely unknown to the savages. not that many stone age people are actually left in africa, just making a point about lower civilizations and their resilience in general. that high fecundity is not for no reason.
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>>533354921
>doesn't even fully grasp the language he natively speaks
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>>533354847
>why they havent?
Because modifying some big corp business process takes time. But it is definitely happening. I literally dont write a single line of code anymore, and everything works. You can develop an AI agent to replace literally any wagie office job. I really cant believe people have no idea of the real capabilities of AI in 2026
t. I kill office jobs
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>>533352404
Muh AGI is just another bullshit scam. You don't hear about it as much anymore. A year or so back they were constantly claiming it was just two more weeks away. They've been trying to sneakily redefine it away from an actual sentient digital consciousness into something else but no one really buys that. Open AI and Microsoft define it as an AI application that brings in more than 1 billion per year in revenue or something like that lmao.
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>>533349891
no
this is fully automated luxury space communism. basically star trek but with robot factories instead of replicators
regular communism could never work without these futuristic technologies
unfortunately we can't actually trust the people in power to allow this, they would rather we were wallowing in poverty or dead. if they do allow it there will be strings attached, social credit score, compliance, surveillance, internet id, etc. where your uhi will depend on being a good goy.
but if we actually had a decent and honest system, government and deep state, then this would actually work and make everything post scarcity for everyone.
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>>533355188
>people have no idea of the real capabilities of AI
No one has seen these "real capabilities" in action so far. That's kind of my point. It all seems to be hype. AI can't reliably give accurate information even on the most basic obvious shit. So how can it do high ticket sales like machines, hotels/cruises, stuff like that for example? The short answer is, it can't.
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>Without debating the usefulness or morality of planned parenthood, it may be verified by observation that any breed which stops its own increase gets crowded out by breeds which expand.
>Robert A. Heinlein
>Starship Troopers
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>>533355564
I don't know what is more ridiculous, the idea of a "decent and honest" government or the idea that our future could be "post scarcity" even as the planets population keeps exploding and the deserts slowly expand
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>as soon as the ai product generation pipeline / control grid is operational, you'll totally be a millionaire, goy
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>>533349891
Simulation Architect to his agents after ripping an 8 ball:
>bro i got it, check this out
>im gonna take a year one university student right?
>like the kind who watches the matrix after two joints and thinks its the most profound experience on earth right?
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>ill make him the richest guy on the planet lol whaddya think?
Agent: "Sick bro, put him in the white house too lmao"
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>>533355188
Does it trouble you in any way? Like will people still go into these programs when AI is dominating the industry and they may not have jobs? I could see us losing 90% of our knowledge in a generation if things went poorly.
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>>533349891
>please stop burning data centers :(
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Where did the feds get that money?
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>>533353860
Do what you think is best fren. Im just saying, if i was an evil cabal of blood sucking, child eating satanists. I'd absolutely do a trial run to test compliance and condition dissidents to resist. Covid was a test and we failed.
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So i earn more money at my job, get more from ubi money. The industry im involved with charges more, ubi queens pay more for our product, inflation snowballs and im back to square one except even more of my taxes (as a flat rate and percentage) are going to bottom feeders.
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>>533354736
A lot of companies are reporting that they aren't seeing the gains they were promised from adopting AI. I see article after article about them outsourcing jobs to AI and then either ending up having to rehire people or having massive problems. AI is capable, but the devil is in the details. You can't just get some idiots off the street on minimum wage and replace valuable labour with AI. You need people that actually understand AI and how to interpret its behaviours and flaws. It's the most apparent thing from this "AI revolution". Midwits just blindly believe AI and never question it's work. It's a tool that is becoming essential in order to level up, but you need to understand when to question it's output or supercede it's decision making. I use AI a lot for my job, but if you got an idiot to try and use AI to do my job, they would fail because they can't accurately interpret when to trust it and when to seek more complete information from another source.
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>>533349891
He went to the island.
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>>533349891
we should just skip to ai runs everything so money is unnecessary and only the smart run things while those who are stupid and violent get sterilized/executed until all of the world is filled with geniuses who fix earth and look to the stars to expand humanity
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that was for military only anon did you not get the update
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>>533350147
Because it's not going to happen. But these kinds of things can be used to pacify the people while everything is being taken from them.
There isn't even any real commitment to this, just one billionaire saying "Hey wouldn't that be nice. After our companies take over everything the government should totally do that.".
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>>533350147
I had to suffer, so you must too. People should have cared about me, but they were assholes to me instead. So I'm going to prevent you from getting it by voting against my own interests. I'm too far gone to get my old self back, so my only solace can be you have to bear burdens as well.
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>We will give everyone FREE MONEY as AI replaces jobs!
>AI actually only replaces like 25% of the jobs in this decade
>Hand out free money anyway
>People stop working and most jobs just go undone
lmao, try to find someone to fix your roof, it costs as much as a house did 5 years ago. We're already suffering from the massive shift to service work / white collar, blue collar guys are just gonna outright demand your virginity and house for a minor repair if you start giving them free money.
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*YAAAWWWWWN* I'm so bored, time to put a roof on a house 30 feet up in 100 degree sun, *YAAAAWN* so bored, time to fix the plumbing on this house from 1860 with lead pipes, time to dig up the septic tank and fish around in it.
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>>533353605
jeetlon is retarded if he unironically thinks the government will ever agree to this
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>>533350856
>A.I. is actually the fastest path to communism.”
This assumes the capitalist frame that what communists want is free stuff. But communism as Marx wrote it is about the people owning "the means of production." He envisioned workers still working, but working at factories that they also owned collectively and had direct take of the profits thereby. If Elon creates a system where people get free stuff but he still exclusively owns the AI and/or the robots that make the free stuff, he hasn't enacted communism, he hasn't even enacted shareholder capitalism, he's enacted a total welfare technostate, neofeudalism as it's often called. There's certainly an idea among opponents of communism that welfare and communism are synonymous but no actual communist ever presented the system that way, not Marx nor any of the adherents that followed in the 20th century. People worked in Soviet Russia, people worked in Red China, there was no concept that working age men and women would receive according to their needs without also working according to their abilities. That simply wasn't possible in the world Marx lived in and he never made any indication that he expected it to be possible, and the nations that enacted communism didn't do it that way.
Marx and communism are huge meme words now. Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto nearly 180 years ago in an era of factories that required large amounts of labor. His ideas about how that factory system should be structured have almost no real connection to the landscape we'd be considering with automated factories - and what connection they might have is directly contradicted by the technocrat model of a few mega-rich people owning all the assets and paying the people a stipend to not revolt.
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>>533351382
>They'd literally rather starve then see their (or anyone's) tax dollars go to someone they hate
Das rite, why would I want money wasted on pedos, jews, pedo jews, niggers, brownoids and trannies? It's really that simple
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>>533350147
watch thx1138. once they pay for all your upkeep they own you. the only way it could work is if ownership was communal (eg all humanity owns the means of production). in elons scheme he and his cronies are the boss and they'll live like gods.
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>>533349891
This is exactly what's coming but not in a way that anyone wants and it's going to be gay. Literally and figuratively. They WILL find a dystopian way, not a sci fi Marvel Harry Potter bullshit trope, the "real life is always more fucked up version" you aren't expecting. That's why I'm not predicting anything because there's been so many anomalous things that have occurred that we could have never predicted. Il
>tl;dr
It's gonna be Y2Gay and it's gonna suck
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>voting
You fucking idiot, the goyim have no say. Do you ask a cow when and how it wants to be slaughtered? This is the same "two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner" as always. TKD.
>>533363494
I'm a fucking Millennial and WAS on track to actually own a home, which is borderline impossible for younger generations. The kikes just stole that from me. Been saving for years, and here we fucking are.
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>>533365461
It's so joever as a homeowner right now, our roof needs to be redone and it literally costs as a cheap house in our area, the city charges 6k per year in taxes, a root grew through our pipes which was only a quick 200 dollar fix but could have been 10k, I have to repaint the barn + all the windows so they don't rot.
You literally just have to manage your entire house by yourself now or be rich. They pushed everyone into white collar, rugpulled said jobs, and now we have no blue collar people. It was literally american culture to be a blue collar worker in the past and now said culture is gone and never coming back, houses will never be cheap again.
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>>533352750
Fuck me, man. My bills are almost double that and that's assuming I "qualify" because I actually work. Bibi the Trump cum supplier has done what was always planned. They're done with the US and now they're draining the husk and letting us die.
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>>533352661
the productivity was captured by the investors, not the labor
>>533353209
some things did get cheaper, like plastic trinkets. things requiring land, like food and housing, got more expensive, because you cannot increase the supply of land
>>533354634
some labor did capture gains from computing, thats why software engineers made bank the past 20 years. but thats ending due to increased supply of engineers
also yes, elon is an idiot, even with ai production, inflation will occur anywhere that ai cant produce, such as land and energy
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>>533355822
the population isn't exploding boomer, we will never reach 10 billion, birth rates are tapped out. we have the opposite problem now. post scarcity doesn't mean unlimited infinite stuff either, of course there are still resource constraints, but there won't be financial constraints. everyone will be able to afford a decent life, better then you're living now, but that doesn't mean lambos and gold toilet seats for everyone, that would be absurd. we can reverse the deserts, there are things we could do.
but a decent and honest government is truly the greatest challenge and will require a new system, one that hasn't been tried before.
utopia is possible, it's just unlikely, but worth the attempt as long as we don't end up with dystopia. we can't be naive about the risks, but we should be open to the possibilities. just accepting that things will suck forever is bad for morale.
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>>533349891
>I heard you'd all like a NatSoc future for the West where we can all thrive
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>>533349891
>ELON ANNOUNCED COMMUNISM!!
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>>533353061
Interesting.That might be why they keep talking about a "cancer" vaccine
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>>533349891
UBI is most likely going to be just a simplified form of welfare that replaces the current systems. Giving everyone the money would achieve nothing, it would only raise inflation so only a small set of poor people should be eligible for it. Hence why its just going to be a replacement for food stamps or whatever systems any country has.
Trump handing stimulus checks to normal people during COVID restrictions genuinely boosted the US economy, because people spent that money in genuine companies with genuine things to sell. Much healthier stimulus than handing the same money over to lobbyists and their jew friends who would just stash that money to some tax haven.
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>>533349891
in short words
fed will print more monopoly money
elon will product robots that will be remotely controlled by jeets
you will give him all printed money and he will sent those robot jeets to feed you with slop and masturbate
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>>533364705
you're right. if we get welfare and not some kind of profitable voting share of the ai production, then they'll have us by the balls. a social credit system where bad boys dont get their gibs and so everyone needs to be a "good boy" and swallow whatever orders, trends, ideas, injections etc they feed us, because with few jobs we'll need the gibs to survive. we must have some control over the gibs and not simply vote and hope in a so-called democracy.
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>>533350147
imagine you need government handouts to survive because there are no jobs. now imagine the government puts strings on that, conditions. things you don't want to do or say but have to because you need that money. absolute control. i still want it, but i want assurances as well, i want a stake in the ai production not a mere handout, i want ownership. profit shares. legally mine.
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