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[sad news] twitter smarks have turned on ospreay Anonymous 04/13/26(Mon)08:12:32 No.20236812 [Reply]▶
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yikes
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based ospreay no selling his injury
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>>20236853
I think Twitter is inherently a bad platform for wrestling, and giving tribalist low IQ people a platform is never a good idea. This is the 80s equivalent to turning up to a Town Hall meeting and dropping retarded takes in front of the Mayor
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>>20236841
I think it's the worst thing that's happened to wrestlers. Is there a single wrestler that hasn't had their aura ruined by the stupid shit they say on Twitter? Mick Foley and Kevin Nash are probably the worst cases.
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OY BRUV THIS WRESTLING MALARKEY IS PROPER HARD WHAT WITH ALL THESE BLOKES GRABBING ME LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE. I TRIED A BIG MOVE BUT TRIPPED OVER ME OWN BLOOMIN BOOTS AND FELL ON ME ARSE AGAIN OY. THEY KEEP PINNING ME DOWN BEFORE I CAN EVEN SHOUT FOR A CUPPA BRUV ITS NOT ON.
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>>20236926
He was as a junior, not so much as a heavyweight but his weakness has always been selling. He was getting better during his commonwealth kingpin gimmick(especially during covid), but in aew he's regressed from what I've seen. His opponents were also actually talented in njpw and the camera work is miles ahead so you don't catch stupid shit like that swerve clip. There's also different expectations between japanese and american style neither of which aew actually executes well.
Still a good car crash promotion though
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>>20237074
no selling is gay and retarded and takes all the weight out of wrestling
textbook videogame wrestling where the guys just do movez movez movez until one arbitrarily wins in a way that isn't telegraphed and feels unsatisfying
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>>20237088
>no selling is gay and retarded and takes all the weight out of wrestling
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>>20236812
It's not even the first time Osprey has no-sold finishers so he can hit his and then they all fall over.
There was also that midcard jobber who no-sold a piledriver.. and then got beaten with a roll up 30 seconds later, making the no-sell pointless.
Fuck AEW.
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that's too fake. I can only suspend my disbelief so much.
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that part
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Slice it
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clock it
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>>20237254
Lmao this and the Cena rematch are two of the worst matches I've ever seen and the fact that Dave gave both 5 stars tanked his credibility to zero for me. Spam finishers and the braindead edrones clap because they're watching a 2k match irl? 5 starerinos!
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>>20237279
Aew and njpw have an actual match before they get to finisher kickouts in the climax. Wwe's "big match" formula is literally spam finishers as soon as the bell rings. It's the worst wrestling on the world.
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On the one hand they're right on the other he has been cleared so his neck is fine now. Why would moves on his head and neck cause issue after he went through the injury and recovery? Sell being scared of new complications though.
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Bryan Alvarez just went on a big rant saying no AEW fan wants to see Kenny and Ospreay always act like they're on deaths door. They're cleared to wrestle. They should be superman baby faces, not constant underdogs like Darby. Shawn sold his back as a weak point when he returned and for a little while after, not his while career. And both of these guys are better than him and should be positioned above Shawn's power level.
So no. He should not be selling his neck all the time. Retards on twitter should stick to booking their shitty efeds.
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AEW sucks, they always do co-operative or just plain fake spots that take me out of the match.
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>>20237361
>he has been cleared so his neck is fine now
and they all lived happily ever after, the end
bdb got cleared before and now he has trouble traveling, just traveling, you know like how people talk about grandma not getting around much anymore but about a 44 year old man
getting cleared means one doctor - out of however many other opinions you get - said he can wrestle, NOT that he's "fine"
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LOL
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Dumbest shit imaginable to bitct about since no one does. This is like the KO neck injury thing during his match with Cody.
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>>20236812
wow LITERALLY WHO on Xwitter said THAT????
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>>20237731
Ospreay's one of the biggest retards in wrestling. He takes retarded neck bumps on his deconstructed neck on weekly shows and doesn't even sell them. He's doing two retarded counterproductive things at the same time. And the sad thing is he is too retarded to understand how it's bad.
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>Let me show you how to se-ACK
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>>20237093
Hulk Hogan always chose the right time to hulk up. It wasn’t just no selling a move, it was adding theatre to the match. Comparing this to modern wrestlers no selling moves without any psychology is completely bad faith. I hate the Hulkster and I’m glad he’s in hell by the way.
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>>20236812
I don't like AEW but I also don't hate it. I don't watch it cause it's just not for me for various reasons. I don't get into console wars cause that shit is a colossal waste of time.
But Will Ospray might be the absolute shittiest wrestler I've ever seen. He was kinda shit in New Japan, too.
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>>20237946
Don't worry. At the rate he takes unnecessary neck bumps on weekly tv, he got two more years tops. This retard will simply never learn and he has no one in the company he works for to help him. Regal literally tried to do this as a way to provide a cautionary tale from a veteran and everyone took it like a critique and is spiteful about it. Literally backward ass retard shit.
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>Regal
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>>20237955
Funny coming from someone who hatewatches every single thing WWE produces and bitches about it on every online forum he can find. Meanwhile, i dont want AEW, have no clue what happened on Dynasty, and I can only assume it was a shitty show since your fag cult aren't calling it the greatest wrestling show to ever happen.
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>>20237976
Proving once again you missed the point of Regal's post. He called doing intentional neck bumps retarded and counterproductive to your career. Ospreay will learn the hard way what he was trying to say. Hope everyone brings up Regal's post when he retires at 35.
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dat pork
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>>20236895
Said it when wrestlers having twitter and it being mentioned on air became a thing years ago but these companies need CHARACTER twitters they run and have access to and then the talent can have their own PERSONAL account labeled specifically as such.
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>>20237514
>should be positioned above Shawn's power level.
this is a guy who pretended like the TNA ppv was so bad he couldn't watch it the other night to pop marks on twatter.
He's so fucking full of shit and performative. Being around dave for decades has done damage to his brain.
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His best match was the first one against Kenny in New Japan, and the bulk of it was Will selling a beatdown. I don't know who gets the credit for structuring that match, but it did a pretty good job at getting over the valiant babyface powering through the pain and the injuries to defeat his opponent. Somewhere along the way since then, both him and Mox had this conviction that the best kind of match should essentially be a show of ''badassery'' where they just take the gnarliest bumps and no-sell them so they could hit an even nastier move on each other until one of them budges. And that's how we ended up here. It kills all immersion for me desu.
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was the aew event that bad? what happened?
or wwe stole all the tony alts?
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this is the shit he always does, why they are mad about it now? is it because of the pedo friend?
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>selling
You're gonna say his neck surgery was a work too next aren't ya?
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>>20238374
I'm of the mindset that a finisher should end a match and guys should have 1-2 signatures they use until the pin. Absolutely fucking hate it when a guy hits his finisher and the opponent just pops up like its nothing UNLESS they are a giant hulk and are beasting out of it or some shit.
Doesn't work when you're 5'8 and a tiny brown flippy guy. Also doesn't work more than once a match.
Then again I also hate roll ups/diva pins and suicide dives so modern wrestling is pretty much designed to run me off kek
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>>20236812
I don't mind the cool little creative spots that AEW does at times, it's their bag and all their crowd wants, but I don't think I've ever seen Ospreay go out of his way, even one time, to stumble and try to illustrate what a toll the match/injury/etc. is having on him. And I'm not talking about lying on the ground to take a breather from his acrobatics. I'm talking selling like he's in a fight. We all know he's basically going for anime-style wrestling but even fucking DBZ characters will get hurt.
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I mean, it works. These kind of spots are generating the live crowd reactions that you want to see. I know some people hate it, but it's working! It's like the old finisher spam complaints. It works until it doesn't.
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I like ospreay in general but last night's match was just silly. The entire build to it was predicated on just how flimsy his neck is. He took a gazillion moves targeting his neck, then a piledriver on top of the stairs, and still kicked out, only to job to the 14th pardigm shift of the match. I'm sorry but that kind of shit feels like it's making fun of anyone that was interested in the story of ospreay's recovery and how risky it's supposed to be, which doesn't make enough sense considering the stakes that they had been emphasizing for the past few weeks.
I had the exact same issue when Seth's feuds were mainly built on how fucked his back is, and he'd be intermittently selling it during the matches inbetween hitting falcon arrows like it was nobody's business. All it does is tell you why bother about the package that is put together at all, just treat it like another one off indie show that's not related to anything that happened before or after.
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Is this playing backwards?
pic unrelated
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>Is this playing backwards?
Yeah, I don't know why OP reversed it. Pic rel
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What did they expect from this guy
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I finally watched the Ospreay clip and..... LMFAO. The guy throwing an elbow as he goes down and sells is what these drooling retards are complaining about? Say you never watched anything but WWE without saying it. But even that doesn't work because faggots like Cody do awful fighting spirit spots, that dronies lap up of course.
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He also pops up like almost everyone does for this move: from the impact. They literally believe you are meant to think he jumped up and just did MOVEZ!. Edrones are joyless dimwits that don't have a clue what psychology is.
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wow that looks like shit! Not like the big leagues
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I'm not talking about the match.
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>>20239119
>fan camera angle
we really getting this desperate now? but anyway aleister black is a shitter so i don't know why i'm defending it but obviously it was filmed for tv so they could cut the camera at impact
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>>20237093
Most people that say this never watched Hogan lol. He had some egregious moments (Vader no sell) but shit for his peak run all Hogan did was fucking sell. He'd sell for the fucking Honky Tonk Man. O'Spreay sells NOTHING. Ever. So you don't get a build for anything because it's just another step into whatever stupid spot he wants to do next. Even the Hulk Up was usually done to end the match. Not something Hogan just did during a match like forty times so he can do some flippy bullshit.
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>>20243122
Ospresy didn’t no sell
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What you described never happens in AEW, try again
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>paradigm shift
>hidden blade
The anime move names are at least good.
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kek my first thought too
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honestly no one in any company is selling moves at this point so anyone complaining is pissing into the wind
they're never gonna start doing it again
the only guy 'selling' is roman and that's because he's a part-timing guy who gets gassed very easily because he's not on the road like the rest of the guys and fights his matches in a specific way so he doesn't have body problems, so he's not really even selling at this point
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>>20236812
>not denying that he doesn't sell
Is selling really not a thing in Japanese wrestling?
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>>20245308
Yes, but citing Okada and Ishii to defend himself is really weird. Okada sold fine, but his entire gimmick was that of a persistence hunter. You're gonna get tired before him so his lariat is gonna fuck you up. Ishii focused primarily on delayed sells and pretending he's not selling in the face of his opponent. Like hitting him with a choppa where he'll clearly feel it, no sell it, hit the opponent harder then start selling how much he was hurt all along. He's very good at that and crowds love him for it, whether it's your cup of ocha or not. Will on the other hand will take a spike piledriver off the top of the cage and then pop up to hit a stormbreaker, its not nearly the same league. He was getting much better while he was bulking during the pandemic era but in AEW he's reverted back to the high flying no sell guy.
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Good, Ospreay really overuses the "fighting spirit no-sell adrenaline" spot to cover up the fact that he's absolutely dog shit at actually selling consistently through the match
He's a popcorn wrestler and that makes his critical acclaim even worse since he's pretty explicitly for the lowest denominator
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