It's looked down on because its mostly faggots and trannies doing it

>>84773763
indi is hotter
holy shit we need to get taller.
also I say we, but she Indi is white.
but you get what I'm saying Latinos are short as fec.

Pretty much anything related to healthy male sexuality or the formation of an actual loving relationship is demonized nowadays.

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>>84773763
>man: I want a loving perfect gf
>looks inside
>its just a young woman who has the exact same interests opinions and goals as him just in a female body and worships him too
Everytime. Same worker drone men can only understand same worker drone love it seems.

>>84773825
Yeah it's crazy. I know someone that did this. They're both "brown" so likely it's not as vilified but I don't know why people expect a woman to go through all of high school, all of college, and then 7-10 years living in a major city either by herself or roommates and not pick up a ton of bad habits and beliefs that would not be conductive to being in a longlasting marriage.

She is either trained to be a mother/wife, or the world will train her to be a whore.

You said she is a med student, ergo she is an adult. How is this grooming?
>abloobloobloo women can't be held accountable for their actions
Yeah nah, if she's not underage, it's not grooming.

it's looked down upon because it's manipulative and often to the detriment of the young person. if there was no problems, nobody would give a shit.

It is not a way to get a loving girlfriend, you would have to be retarded to trust a teenager like that.

>>84773825
That isn't true at all though. I can't think of a single normal and healthy behaviour that is demonized, but a ton of unhealthy and abnormal ones.

>>84773763
"Grooming" is just a word roasties, boomers and cucks cae up with to make normal courtship behavior sound sinister.

>>84773825
This, the west is a totalitarian shithole.

>>84773958
>it's looked down upon because it's manipulative and often to the detriment of the young person.
source: I made it up

>>84773966
>I can't think of a single normal and healthy behaviour that is demonized
Fucking teenage girls past the feminist-mandated age. This is the singlest healthiest and most normal behavior that exists and there's nothing the cuck west hates more.

>>84773998
>Fucking teenage girls past the feminist-mandated age. This is the singlest healthiest and most normal behavior that exists and there's nothing the cuck west hates more.
how could you possibly believe this? like, what game you the impression that is was normal?

>>84773998
the source is I was groomed as a 16 year old and have talked with other young men who were also maniulpulated. it fucks with you, even if you think it's fun at the time. please stop being so naive and try to listen to people with experience.

>>84773763
"grooming" is just a bunch of 4th wave radical feminism bullshit that has gone mainstream. jews don't like it because they don't want people reproducing (other than them, where they have no such restrictions for e.g. ultra-orthodox jews) or because they are bitter old fat women who no man has ever loved.

your job is to pay it no mind. become successful. find a 19 year old when you're 36. marry her. have kids. pair bond with her for life. watch them seethe

>>84773763
>Pretty much all of "her" interests are just his interests
this is why men are told to get a hobby to attract women. women are boring as fuck and want a man who will introduce her to things. she won't care what.

>>84773998
>teenage girls past the feminist-mandated age
Late teens is fine. Girls who get pregnant 15 years or under have the similar amounts of risk as a woman who gets pregnant in her late thirties

>>84774069
while this isn't true at all, there is an interesting piece of stats that puts into perspective how sex education does last to less pregnancies.

The amount of teen pregnancy in america is at all all time low, dropping from nearly 20% of pregnancies in 2008 to less than 5% in 2023. While covid certainly helped reduce the number, it does show us that LESS teens are having unprotected sex. Anyone who tries to tell you that teenagers are all having sex is trying to manipulate you.

>>84773966
>I can't think of a single normal and healthy behaviour that is demonized
You don't think. Let's just keep it simple. You do not possess the ability for thoughts that aren't fed to you by a jew-moderated Reddit sub. You're are the goyest of goy. (Or a lying jew.)

>>84774118
Can you think of some, then?

>>84774015
All of human history prior to feminism, reddit-kun.

>>84774088
Acceptable, but pretending anyone under 18 is an infant is not only wrong, it's satanic in the way that it criminalizes men for liking what men normally like. 18 is 6 x 3 i.e. 666.

>>84774121
"Toxic masculinity." Literally the entire concept of men is considered a flaw in this jew'd world.

Are you a roastie, a kike, or a Plebbitor that hasn't been given a single thought that wasn't run through one of Epstein's moderators and Eglin Air Force Base for your upniggies first? Be honest.

>>84774124
>All of human history prior to feminism
And also most of the world even today, nobody gives a fuck about waaah muh pedos except buck broken westoids and those under their influence. They fuck teens because they're hot, simple as.

>>84774124
I have a feeling that even in the past, young women were abused and harmed by men seeking to have sex with them.

also that satanic thing is weird in a hilarious way. These are the kind of people who want to fuck teens, huh.

>>84774129
What's wrong with the term toxic masculinity? Most men aren't toxic and are able to demonstrate healthy masculinity. Why would you want to celebrate bad habits?

>>84773763
Yes, the jew is most terrified of white men reclaiming their women. Because then its actually over, the natural order will once again remain supreme.

Apparently teaching 5 year old children they are trannies and that all races are equal and democracy is the best system of government in the world isn't grooming but talking to a 16 year old and sharing your interests is.

>>84774135
That has nothing to do with how normal and safe it is though. Appeal to tradition, nature, etc.

>>84774155
>Apparently teaching 5 year old children they are trannies and that all races are equal and democracy is the best system of government in the world isn't grooming but talking to a 16 year old and sharing your interests is.
gullible little man lol

>>84774043
You were groomed by a woman. Thats wrong, not the act of grooming itself.

>>84774176
Being groomed by men is also wrong. You're being stupid.

>>Know woman that's a medical student
wait, so she's an adult?

OP, wtf are you talking about here...?

it's so funny how /pol/cels instantly fold if you just don't acknowledge their incoherent screeching about jews and ask them to actually explain their views

>>84774185
I think she knew this guy when she was younger, but knows OP as an adult
try reading it again

>>84774199
hey man, it's tough to fall for all the propoganda on twitter, cut them some slack

>>84774173
strawman fallacy

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>>84774153
The term is toxic masculinity and its used to describe masculinity as a whole. Have you ever actually heard the term toxic femininity? Of course not, that should be your first clue as to whats happening.

here is a list of behaviors that are demonized that are actually healthy for you
>having children when you are under 25
>women pursuing children and a traditional submissive role in the family
>men literally just approaching or talking to women they don't know for the purposes of mating
>having more than a 2 month gap in your resume
>literally just having any right wing or conservative views at all
>choosing to be chaste
>men doing literally anything masculine as already discussed with toxic masculinity
Deep dive into "toxic masculinity"
>sitting with your legs open
>working out
>learning to fight
>having honor
>eliminating threats(that guy arrested for headlocking that other dude on a subway)
>being sexually attracted to a woman
>being not sexually attracted to a woman

Now you're going to OMG none of that is demonized lol. Despite the fact that if you're not blind they are clearly demonized in mainstream culture.

>>84774267
yeah obviously, but they believed it so much they probably didn't even realize it

>>84774143
>here's a shitton of evidence showing that this prohibition is misandrist bullshit founded on nothing
>but what about my feels?

>>84774166
Literally nothing wrong with appealing to tradition in this case. If it was actually psychologically harmful for a 30-year-old guy to bang a willing 15-year-old girl, then it would have been recorded somewhere in the 10,000 years of recorded history we have from before feminism. But it isn't. It doesn't show up, not once. You fucking agecuck niggers have made an extraordinary claim, that the default sexual preference of men (fucking teenage girls) is wrong. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Not only have you failed to produce extraordinary evidence, you've produced no evidence at all. That which is alleged without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

tl;dr you lost tranny

>>84774173
So can you explain why the pledging the allegiance to the flag when you are 5 years old isn't grooming? Go ahead and please, I would really really love to hear how adult 40+ year old women telling kids what political ideas they should and shouldn't have is grooming. Please go ahead. Name the difference, so long as the difference isn't "well I personally agree with one"
>>84774184
Nah. Your egalitarian world view is a mental disorder, probably the result of being groomed by women. I was groomed by women, I went through education. Its tough but you can over come it someday.

>>84774199
>>84774224
Crazy how you think anyone folded. LMFAO. Is this how you convince yourself you're always right?

>>84774282
>>having children when you are under 25
>>women pursuing children and a traditional submissive role in the family
>>men literally just approaching or talking to women they don't know for the purposes of mating
>>having more than a 2 month gap in your resume
>>literally just having any right wing or conservative views at all
>>choosing to be chaste
>>men doing literally anything masculine
none of these are demonized. what gives you the impression that any of this is demonized?

and the only one of those that could be considered toxic is "eliminating threats" because chances are that just means there are two threats now instead of one.

Normal masculine behaviour like this is celebrated by normal people. families are still being created and young people are falling in love and having children before 25. unemployment is far, far less of a taboo than it ever has been post-covid. conservative movements desperately need a revival of true, conservative values instead of neolib christian propoganda. I could go on if you wish.

>>84773763
Women shouldnt choose their partners.

>>84774308
>So can you explain why the pledging the allegiance to the flag when you are 5 years old isn't grooming?
I mean that's a bit different and hissy regular manipulation. grooming implies some sort of elicit relationship once they are "legal" is the goal.

>>84774330
Any "conservative" movement that doesn't include restoring age of consent and all other sex laws to what they were prior to feminism is just more controlled opposition cuck shit.