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And now we can simply ignore flat earth retards for good, let them drivel in their madness. So the big question is why is the earth a sphere and other space objects in the universe like the sun or moons?
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You know the flat earthers will call all of this CGI like they always do, right?
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>>16945142
yes, yes... good goy!!!
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>>16945165
How can we truly prove to them that the earth's round? What can we do about these retards?
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>>16945210
There are countless millions, if not billions of people that still believe that evolution is a complete lie and Earth is the only source of life in the universe. Luckily progress doesn't depend on these people.
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>>16945142
Brother, I live IN Florida where I personally saw this rocket being launched. And my buddy who ALSO lives in Florida told me "Bro that video is AI" when I sent him a video I personally shot. These people are straight up brain rotted retards. Flat Earth got completely and finally cooked when their best debaters were given a trip to Antarctica to see the 24 hour sun they swore was not possible.

It's insane hearing these people talking about never seeing water stick to a ball when you can observe a wet basketball. But even when water falls off of a ball, it's because of the fucking gravity they claim doesn't exist.
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What a blatant shill thread.
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>>16945235
The Earth can still be round while everything else about the Artemis II is 100% fake. There's no actual contradiction here.
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watch them "update" this in the coming weeks.
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The worst aspect of any NASA CGI is that modern basedboys have made anti-flat earth a core part of their philosophy and mentality.
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>>16945266
Do you guys have any original thoughts of your own or do you just have Gemini/ChatGPT/whatever do all your thinking for you now?
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>>16945307
for brevity's sake, I only asked the AI because I know its answer will conveniently change to fit the narrative in the coming weeks.
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>>16945142
You will never be able to ignore retards, because said retards are the tax paying citizens who fund this sort of stuff.
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>>16945266
Amazing, it got everything wrong. Imagine if the trillions spent on that shit went to space exploration
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>>16945210
Flerf youtubers were literally sent to Antarctica to observe the 24hr sun. Said youtubers publicly recanted their belief in flat earth.
The broader flerf community? They collectively agreed the videos were faked and the youtubers were either bribed or blackmailed.

There is literally no convincing the community as a whole. Pick any batshit retarded thing and there will be a collective of batshit retarded people whose whole identity revolves around believing in it.
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>>16945312
Well, note that:
1: it mischaracterized the lens flaring behavior.
2: it misidentified a lens aritfact as the fucking moon (kek)
3. It misidentified Africa as Australia
4. It hallucinated stars where there were none.

Your LLM is retarded.
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>>16945368
The stars are real, it's just repeating reddit nonsense. The photo was taken at night (as evidenced by the city lights) so they don't get drowned out by the Sun
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>>16945374
Fair. I need to get my eyes checked.
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>>16945368
>3. It misidentified Africa as Australia
Tbf I did that too. Until I noticed the Strait of Gibraltar.
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>>16945235
>Brother
Stopped reading here
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>>16945142
>So the earth is truly proven round
There is no proof, you're just taking it axiomatic on faith alone that NASA is telling the truth.
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>>16945362
>Imagine if the trillions spent on that shit went to space exploration
Funneling money towards useless bullshit vs funneling money towards useless bullshit
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>>16945368
>Your LLM is retarded.
doesn't matter, it'll just be coincidentally updated with a new set of """"unbiased"""" counterfactuals after the dust has settled. that's the point of me checking.
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>>16945397
You are inverting the burden of proof here.
If you suppose that NASA is lying, that the information they provide is fabricated, it is on *you* to justify that claim. Without evidence of fabrication, the default position regarding an exhibit is that it is as presented.
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>>16945215
We literally can't prove evolution; it is mathematically improvable in fact. Why do human and apes having similarities mean we came from them? How do we know we don't just share similar features to fulfill a certain niche? You just repeat what other people tell you. You're an NPC.
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>>16945418
>We literally can't prove evolution
don't have to prove evolution its observable dipshit
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>>16945419
Observe what? Humans? We've only been around for 4000 years. And how does observing prove anything? See you don't have any answers to my questions because they've never crossed your mind.
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>>16945414
>If you suppose that NASA is lying, that the information they provide is fabricated, it is on *you* to justify that claim.
That fake CGI image you posted in the OP, for one.
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>>16945421
1. I didn't post it.
2. What makes you think it's CGI?
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>>16945418
>We literally can't prove evolution
We see it happen on small scales all the time.
>Why do human and apes having similarities mean we came from them?
Strawman ignored
>How do we know we don't just share similar features to fulfill a certain niche?
Analogy vs homology.
>you don't have any answers to my questions because they've never crossed your mind.
These are bog-standard talking points school children hear. They aren't even the best evolution skeptics have to offer.
The only reason you think they're half-decent arguments is because you never actually received any pushback on them.
*You* are the NPC.
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>>16945431
>We see it happen on small scales all the time.
And that proves what?
>Strawman ignored
This is exactly what Darwinism is you fucking idiot.
>Analogy vs homology.
Elaborate

And not receiving push-back proves I'm not wrong. When I say the earth is flat or that evolution is fake and gay NPCs like yourself will break down in programming.
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>>16945450
>And that proves what?
That it happens.
>This is exactly what Darwinism is you fucking idiot.
No it is not. That is your strawman.
>>Analogy vs homology.
>Elaborate
Analogous structures are what you describe. Similar features independently adapting to fit similar niches. (Eg, moth wings vs bird wings)
Homologous structures are the same features in separate species, sometimes adapted to different niches. (Eg. Whales have legs).

>not receiving push-back proves I'm not wrong.
No. It means you live in a bubble and don't engage with the opposition. Otherwise you wouldn't need me to elaborate on analogy vs homology.
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>>16945142
In the age of AI nothing is proof.

All proof must come from 10+ years ago at least or it is invalid.

Flat Earthers are winning in that regard.
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>>16945458
See >>16945414
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I don't get it, what makes that pic special compared to any other space pics?
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>>16945454
>That it happens.
No, it doesn't. Just because it happens over 200 years doesn't mean it happens over millions.
>>Why do human and apes having similarities mean we came from them?
>No it is not. That is your strawman.
pic disproves your accusation.

>It means you live in a bubble and don't engage with the opposition
Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>16945389
What a gay reason to not read a post.
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>>16945514
>Just because it happens over 200 years doesn't mean it happens over millions.
I genuinely laughed. You might wanna work on your phrasing there.
So is the thing you're disputing the existence of millions of year timescales? Because that's a different discussion entirely.
>pic disproves your accusation
The pic does not match your earlier claim.
"some organisms were able to adapt better to their environments than others"
Vs.
"having similarities mean[s] we came from them"
See? Two very different claims. The first is correct. The second is a strawman.
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>>16945266
AI is the doom of this species... and not for any of the reasons the tards think.
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>>16945142
>>>/x/
Don't start flat earth threads
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>>16945266
its so fucking dumb bros
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>>16945266
Why is Gemini 3.1 Pro so dumb and useless?
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>>16945142
not the original. there's a reason they never show original undoctored photos. it's because the doctored ("""corrected""" or """adjusted""") either don't look like anything or would fall apart under the slighest scrutiny and they'd have no excuse. NASA has never released a plain unmodified polaroid or iphone image of Earth that shows the blue marble, nor will they ever. and if they claim they did, the photo in question will fall apart immediately when subject to the slightest scrutiny. take it to the bank.
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>>16945787
Most images from space are daytime images so the stuff like the "lens flare" easily confuse AI's. I mean it confuses most of the bots here too.
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>>16945266
This dumbass tech is almost singlehandedly propping up the entire western economy right now
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>>16945266
Uh, Gemini? The moon is that way
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>>16945374
Wait a minute, that cloud...
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>>16945460
That's not how burden of proof works.
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>>16945882
A hell of a LOT of investors sure got tricked by all the hubub a few years ago...
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>>16945958
Yes. It literally is.
If burden of proof aldo meant "prove your evidence is trustworthy" then you get an epistemological cascade that ends in solipsism.
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>>16945142
>manufactured controversy that only came to be once people started asking inconvenient questions relating to 9/11.
makes you think, doesn't it that the whole flat earther trope might be the government cosplaying as le stupid conspiracy theorists.
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>>16945977
>then you get an epistemological cascade that ends in solipsism.
No, it doesn't because solipsism doesn't relate to proof theory.
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>>16945984
>red apples exist
>prove it
>here is a red apple
*note that non-retards would be satisfied at this step and the conversation would be over
>prove that's a real apple
>here's the tree I plucked it from
>prove you didn't paint the apples
>sit down and watch this apple tree grow for a few years
>prove my eyes aren't deceiving me
>they've been working fine so far
>have they?
>probably. You've existed in reality so far
>prove reality is real

Basically, you're retarded.
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>>16946013
>Basically, you're retarded.
Just stfu. I'm not going to waste time arguing with a bot trying to engage people and waste their time. Lol
What a poorly made attempt at demoralization.
Go fuck yourself.
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>>16945368
>Well, note that:
5. The "moon" in lower right is what it identified as Venus.

AI is pretty bad confronted with anthing new. But nowadays every pic looks cgi because it is cgi. Heavy processed in the camera where the sensor already is adjusted to whatever colour sensing the manufacturer thought looks "good" or "real".
After there is heavy processing and compression in the cameras compuing stages and the result is an artifical pic that usually do not look like what you see with bare eyes.
The Nikon used pretty sure has no calibration for that high ISO moonlight reflected scene of the night side of earth while on trajectory to our trabant.

>tdlr you cannot distinct between cgi and real pic because of the setting.
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>>16945977
>Yes. It literally is.
>the multi-billion dollar corporation says so so they are!!!
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>>16946039
>makes dumb argument
>cries when shown argument is dumb
Based.

>>16946117
If tou have evidence of fabrication, provide it. Otherwise, you are just being retarded.
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>>16946118
>If tou have evidence of fabrication, provide it.
Do you have evidence its real?
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>>16946122
Yes. The fact that I can see it is evidence that it's real.
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>>16946123
A digital photograph in an age where its literally never been easier than ever to fabricate false evidence using digital tools and AI.
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>>16946135
I didn't say it was particularly strong evidence. But it is more evidence than you have provided that it's fake.
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>>16945142
I just can't really tell what part of Earth I'm looking at, I don't recognise that coastline
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>>16946143
Africa. The south pole is at about the 1 o'clock position.
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>>16946143
In the lower left you can see Spain
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>>16945368
lmao even
They did the same trick on Apollo 11.
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>>16946181
What do you think this image is evidence of?
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>>16946187
faking distance from the Earth. duh.
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>>16946190
The one on the right is more zoomed in and at a different orientation but otherwise proportional to the one on the left.
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>>16946194
if you mean filmed through an Aperture to make it look like a sphere, then yes I agree they are faking the distance from the Earth.
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>>16946210
>filmed through an Aperture to make it look like a sphere
Do you have evidence of this claim?
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>>16946210
>muh Aperture
you're parroting retards who tried to explain how pics of the horizon can look curved, without realizing the explanation is completely unapplicable to pics of the whole fucking sphere (or "disc")
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>>16946210
>>16946269
incidentally, if you admit this an actual thing that was filmed you're already admitting the flat earth is bullshit because they've gone way past the firmament and where the luminaries would be in the flerf model.
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>>16945531
It was written by a black
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>>16946315
you can't even read something POSSIBLY written by a black person without throwing a fit? neonazi snowflakes bro
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>>16945418
this is killing me bro
>it is a mathematically improvable
it is a matter of mathematics what the fuck are you talking about. this is a matter of genetics and anthropology.
>Why do humans and apes having similarities mean we come from them?
again, what the fuck are you talking about. humans and apes share a common ancestor which over time evolved into several distinct species. we are related to them, we did not come from them.
there were several other "sapien" species which eventually met their demise from natural selection.
>How do we know we don't just share similar features to fulfill a certain niche?
what does this shit even mean?
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>>16945142
It looks identical to the images that were already admitted to be digital renders
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>>16945142
The earth has been proven round for centuries, one more photo from space doesn't move the needle
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>>16945210
>What can we do about these retards?
chlorpromazine
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>>16945142
why didn't they just rotate it 180 degree ?
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>>16945210
Get a round object and some shrooms, you can convince someone of anything when they are on shrooms

You will need the round object they use tactil references
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>>16945951
It's incredible how they put that stuff in plain sight and globecuck will still defend them.
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Is this a troll thread or are the posters here for real? Fucking hell.
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>>16946859
Sorry anon, everyone forgot that we're supposed to TRUST THE SCIENCE AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS.
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>>16946869
Just go back to /pol/. There you can confabulate and have fun with the other idiots.
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>>16946870
I'm sorry for challenging your religious beliefs. I'm just trying to undestand how you people can keep defending this stuff.
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>>16945210
Pentobarbital sodium.
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>>16946859
Mods are sleep so troll threads stay up, which is double shame since the picture is amazing but it's impossible to talk about it in threads like this.
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>>16945142
planes always look like spheres from a distance you halfwit.
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>>16946818
and finally /thread.
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>>16945210
Lithium.
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>>16945210
Shoot them into space. But that costs money.
So just shoot them, I guess. That's cheaper.
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>>16945142
what is this?
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>>16947903
>clouds that look like things = "proof" of photoshop
You are genuinely retarded.
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>>16949507
don't worry about it
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>>16945210
they don't care. they're dug in. any proof you bring them just makes them dig in their heels more and convinces them they are right. it's part of their identity. it makes them feel unique and they enjoy pretending they have some sekrit knowledge that "they" don't want you to know about.

it's the same with the pedophilic MIGA cult. everything trump does is dogmatically just and correct. doesn't matter if he contradicts himself a week later.

these people don't live in the same reality you or i do.
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>>16945266
It'll be updated so say that it was ACKTUALLY generated by AI
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>>16949507
Venus
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>>16945142
Yeah but if you're never going to go to space, so it might as well be flat, right?

But you know what is real?
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>>16945210
Flat Earthers aren't real.
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>>16946315
brother is a very common thing for white dudes to say to each other.
not "my brother" like the niggers say, just "brother", like hulk hogan.
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>>16949507
It's a drone, obviously. Why do people always think it's aliens or something. Drones exist, get over it.
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>>16950092
You can't say "nigger" on /sci/
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>>16950134
my bad i forgot i wasnt on /pol/ shitting on flat earthers
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>>16945210
Who cares?
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>>16945266
I should send this to my 3DCG artist friends and see what they think of this.
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>>16946859
The science board being filled with mouthbreathing retards? It's more likely than you think
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>>16945210
just leave them be it's pointless
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this isn't a wind up
he really believes this
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>>16950602
Based. Those who know, know.
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>>16950602
>proving
You can tell Flerfers genuinely think they deserve to live.
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>>16951322
Nice twitter phrase.
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>>16951423
is it the missing bulge?
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>>16951427
The shadow, dummy.
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>>16951423
I agree, she should have a penis
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>>16951460
is it going to be one of those gaslight things where I'm meant to not see the obvious shadow I'm seeing?
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>>16951466
It's one of those "he's a retard" situations where he doesn't understand how overlapping shadows work when there's multiple light sources.
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>>16951466
The toy's shadow disappears the moment she lets go of it.
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>>16951469
>counterfactuals
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>>16951472
Look at how her hands' shadows look when they're close to her pants vs farther away.
You are a retard.
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>>16951470
how do you explain the toy's shadow being obvious there?
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>>16951423
>THE HECKIN TOY NO SHADOW
>MEANS THEY AREN'T IN SPACE AND ITS ALL HOLLYWOOD BULLSHIT!!!

dumb fucking nigger ape, fucking sick of all of you trolls, i hope these astronauts get paid heavily for taking pics like this. It shows we really aren't important as much as we thought, but it so fucking freeing.
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>>16951663
>>MEANS THEY AREN'T IN SPACE AND ITS ALL HOLLYWOOD BULLSHIT!!!
Always has been.
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>Lunacy: Intermittent mental derangement attributed to the changing phases of the moon
>Lunatic: a person who is considered mentally ill, foolish, or dangerous, with historical roots suggesting that such conditions were thought to be influenced by the moon
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>>16950908
its the influx of /pol/tards such as yourself who spilled over from the pot of shit with artemis II
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>A view of Earth taken by NASA astronaut and Artemis II Commander Reid Wiseman from one of the Orion spacecraft's four windows after completing the translunar injection burn on April 2, 2026.
>after completing the translunar injection burn
This image was taken 3 hours before the TLI.
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>>16945142
Here's the real pictures that prove the Earth is fruit
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I thought the experts said Earth was pear shaped
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It's funny how the hype died instantly.
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>>16945210
>What can we do about these retards?
You cannot reason someone out of a belief they didn't reason themselves into to begin with.
Flat Earthers don't believe into flat earth because they're bad at math, perspective and scale and just innocently misunderstand the evidence presented to them, they believe it for deeper psychological/emotional reasons. So getting off it is closer to a cult intervention than explaining to someone who's wrong about something how they are wrong, if that makes sense.
I vaguely remember there being a study where people who strongly believed in a conspiracy theory were shown clear evidence of them being wrong and as a result they started believing it even more.
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>>16953079
Classic redditism. You missed the reference to Dunning-Kruger so you don't get the hat trick.
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>>16945210
Easy. You purchase a massive woodchipper and put a sign outside it saying "100% proof of flat earth inside, $100 entry fee". Then simply wait for them to pay and climb in, then turn it on. After that just wheel it onto the next spot in need of fertilizer.
Its a beautiful solution. You get rich while they actually fulfill a useful purpose for the first and only time in their lives. Added bonus: The average IQ of the global population goes up a little bit every time.
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>>16953095
I am not sure their minced remains would be much use as fertilizer. Anything trying to grow in that spot would become hopelessly retarded.
Personally I would go for the "flat earth slide' which deposits them straight into the mouth of an active volcano.
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>>16953095
>>16955953
You guys overcomplicate this.
Sell them bottles of salty water and diuretics as a "parasite cleanse" since we all know the venn diagram of retards that believe that shit and flat earthers is basically a circle.
They'll constantly be producing big sloppy shits while not actually dying and still giving you money.
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>>16955962
Anon, you disappoint me. There is more at stake here than just having a jolly belly laugh at the expense of these imbeciles.
Surely you have watched with incredulity as flat earthers, perpetual motioners, moon hoaxers, and other subhumans have wasted precious electrons and oxygen molecules with their primitive blitherings.
Anon, these cretins consume resources. Food, water, minerals, energy. They received schooling, medical care, and legal rights. They can breed. They can vote. They drive on the roads. They walk on our pavements, share our parks, swim in our seas. They occupy physical space.
Anon, consider the satisfaction it would give to permanently rid the world of these cognitively inadequate creatures. Imagine being the ticket master selling them one way rides to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Why I would be as happy as Larry, beaming from ear to ear, taking their money and saying "Yes yes soon you will see all your beliefs vindicated! You were right all along!" and laughing gaily as they joyfully file into the container that will deliver them, unprotected, to pressures of 16,000 psi.
And why not be generous? Make it a family affair so their wives and children go for free! Then once the day's work has been done you can look up at the stars and say "Now we can get on with it"
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>>16945210
There was some flat earther who was building a homemade rocket. Obviously, shooting them into space and around orbit should do it.
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>>16955994
Indeed, something has to be done to stop the woman.
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>>16945210
When I was 14 years old my dad took me out into the backyard and had me sketch the motion of the planets and the moon. I did that for weeks, mapping out the changes in their orbits around the sun. He also introduced me to a friend with a telescope and I saw the moons of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn through nothing but mirrors and glass.

You have to start them young.
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>>16945215
>There are countless millions, if not billions of people that still believe that evolution is a complete lie and Earth is the only source of life in the universe

Provide a single shred of empirical data (what science actually uses and relies on to make claims about the world) which proves either of these things wrong.

>m-muh adaptation!

Observed adaptation depending on short term environmental changes does not prove distinct species being the result of evolution.

To be explicit, I’m not taking a position either way here, but to imply evolution is proven is just dogmatic retardation. It is inherently outside of the bounds of what is empirically verifiable. You cannot use empirical experimentation in the here and now to “prove” what happened six gorillion years ago. At best it is a narrative you can try to make plausible with what we do see (ie we see things adapt certain traits depending on short term environmental changes so therefore over time that would create speciation). This is an interesting narrative, but that’s all that it is.

>aliens

Literally no evidence at all.
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>>16958244
>Provide a single shred of empirical data (what science actually uses and relies on to make claims about the world) which proves
Stop right there.
"Proof" is not a concept in science. There is no "proof" of anything outside of pure logic/mathematics which is explicitly not empirical.
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>>16945142
> can't rotate image 115 degrees
> picks the shittiest place on the planet as focal point
> jiggaboo for a commander
Yup, about what we'd expect from today's clown world.
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>>16945210
I wonder how ubiquitous space travel has to become for flattards to go extinct
A permanent moonbase? Space travel about as common as travel to south pole bases? Noticeable economic impact from space activities? Orbital tourism being something upper-middle class can afford? Infrastructure being visible from earth?
>>16945266
>schizo uses AI yesman to feed his delusions, episode 109
I swear we need to require licenses for access to AI

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