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>mfw the Big Bang didn't create everything from nothing because space-time only emerged with the Planck Era and that goes against the Law of Conservation of Mass.
>mfw the Law of Conservation of Mass makes Creatio Ex Nihilo impossible
>mfw Genesis 1 is in total resonance with the Big Bang because it says the sky was light and darkness and the earth was formless and empty, that is, it was neither the sky nor the earth that we know/those that are referred to as created by God, but chaotic and pre-existing things that, being so, were all together and mixed like the particle 1 billion times smaller than a proton that created the universe in the Big Bang
I fucking love Science, anons.
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>>16953334
how do “laws” exist when nothing exists? Laws spring into existence chaotically, that’s the only way they could exist, unless you think they caused themselves to exist, which is more absurd. When absolutely nothing exists, anything can happen and there will be no contradiction, as there is nothing to contradict.
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>>16953343
>When absolutely nothing exists, anything can happen and there will be no contradiction, as there is nothing to contradict.
This is tantamount to saying magic exists and that we just happen to live in the configuration where dragons and immortal elves don't wander the world.
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the problem with trying to explain creation with god is that you're not actually explaining anything, you're just kicking the can down the road.
"Where did the universe come from?" just turns into "where did God come from?"
The usual response is just "God has always existed or is beyond existance" but then you could just say the same thing about the universe itself so God is a completely unnecessary redundancy
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>>16953334
>Law of Conservation of Mass.
Relatively showed that mass is not a conserved quantity, though, mass is created by particle pair production and destroyed through matter/antimatter annihilation. The conserved quantities are Energy, Momentum, and Charge.
>Creatio Ex Nihilo impossible
Casimir effect is one way to create force from emptiness.
>>16953397
No, it is tantamount to saying 0 exists as the additive identity which makes it the origin number and as a result of that novel identity is its own opposite number by necessity.
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>>16953476
>but then you could just say the same thing about the universe itself so God is a completely unnecessary redundancy
i mean, God at least has the excuse that he is defined as being self-originated by its very nature, while it is certainly logically possible or even feasible for a universe to be generated externally. it is only redundant insofar if you assume that the universe, like God, is self-originated and self-generated, which is equally as massive of an assumption as, well, you know, that God did it or something