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>>16961018
Almost missdd bluebigga but they ho ho holdin
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Latvia to sign Artemis Accords tomorrow
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NU GRENN
I'll bet 200 monopoly-moneys that the unspecified hold at time L 3:57, and the whiffed launch poll, were both related to the eventual 2nd stage engine failure.
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Pretty cozy launch
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I don't understand rocket tribalism. Why are you picking a billionaire to suck off? Just be glad that spaceflight is finally advancing
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>>16961545
I am. But EDS tards of both varieties always try to bait me.
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>>16961548
This reminds me of 360 vs ps3 autism. In the end it didn't really matter
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>>16961562
that one is also golden, i remember watching this in my teens to i never had to rediscover it as much.

it makes me sad that there's not as many kino speculative CGI space documentaries today, the world could use more of those.
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>>16961545
so am i, i hope spacex and blue origin both succeed. fuck oldspace though, they had their chance. i mean, the launches that they can still get out with SLS, great, thumbs up, but then cancel it because better alternatives are coming and it is not a rocket fit for mission purpose.
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>*inserts your satellite into a 164km perigee orbit*
>nothin personnel kid
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>>16961550
I still play my 360, it won in the end.
HD-DVD didn't though, lmao.
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>>16961577
i still play my ps3, it won in the end.
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>>16961545
This is where I'm at. Fuck billionaires but I'm excited to see space travel start to take off again.
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>>16961571
>ywn make Earth sweat while you and your space roommates laugh at their panic
>>16961577
Impossible, I was told it had no gaems.
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mark 1 will fly on starship
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>>16961562
>spacecraft is called the von braun
based, this would have been considered a controversial artistic decision had this been made in currentyear™
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>>16961577
it didn't win anything. If you had fun and have good memories then YOU won
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>>16961589
:D
One of these days I'll get a hard drive housing for it and try out some original Xbox games.
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>>16961588
If only the focus wasn't out
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2 weeks?
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>>16961545
>>16961579
back to plebbit
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This one stings. Yoweee.
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"45 blue birds by EOY"
ok lol
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>>16961545
i just love rockets
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so this blue bird was a special one for government contract bait? oop
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>SpaceX: 600
>Rest of the world combined: 2
damn, they are catching up
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>>16961605
3, right? Chinese got one?
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>>16961511
It's already forming.
I'm not entirely convinced the shorter cohort has much to do with market dynamics as it is just a rejection of Muskian development and execution.
The gist is companies shouldn't be rewarded by quasi-enforcement of 12 hour work days
It's why there is such an obsession with "doing things right" and "not moving so fast". The market shouldn't value speed and the obsession with missed deadlines and targets is an attempt to indict such execution methods.
These people would rather have companies fail if it meant employees worked at a slow pace.
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https://x.com/RedPillRabbit/status/2045931464974307358
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>>16961605
>SpaceX: 600
>Rest of the world combined: 6,000
FIXED. The Falcon series is 9% of all successful launches ever, which is the impressive part.

Trying to impress people works better if you use the correct parameters.
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>>16961611
Good. Now remove the the chinks, as they are all CCP spies.
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>>16961616
booster landings retard, not launches
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>>16961619
the pre-landing days is a small chunk of total f9 family launches now
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AST has confirmed altitude is too low and they will deorbit the satellite
>>16961611
I highly doubt it lol
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>>16961619
>calling me a retard because you didn't qualify your stupid post
ESL detected.
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>>16961614
what the fuck is wrong with these people
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>>16961623
pathetic brainwashed bagholders. same with quantum computer scam stocks
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>>16961606
nope
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>>16961622
what do you think the number 2 referred to?
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mr. suborbital
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>>16961616
we were talking about re-use, my mentally ill, ragebaiting zoomer friend.
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>>16961614
>my fellow [insert company here] shareholders
if you have to find comradery with your fellow stock gamblers you are seriously desperate and/or retarded, which is most stock traders nowadays.
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>>16961622
no, he's calling you a retard because you can't read.
>rest of the world combined: 2
now the original post this was referring to was spacex celebrating their 600th booster landing.
you had everything you needed to interpret that correctly, so either you're sleep deprived or you're a dumbass and you deserve bulli.
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>>16961599
figured i'd post it in the new thread, magnet link for parts 1 and 2, hope it's not detected as spam.
part 1:
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part 2:
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>>16961652
How's the quality? I have a rip I got years ago but it's not that great, I remember it being hard to track this down back when I tried.
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>>16961018
>Thread made before image limit was reached and before it reached page 10
This thread is illegal.
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>>16961656
i tried a bunch of different avenues and yeah, this one isn't amazing quality either, it's the best i've found so far tho, it also actually had seeders, there's a lot of dead ones.
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>>16961658
>muh laws
fuck off, earther
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>>16961659
where did you find these torrents anon? Have been looking for a new site for sometime now
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>>16961652
>>16961654
it's weird that these remain so hard to find, so far the only other one i've found that's decent quality is on archive.org https://archive.org/details/space.-odyssey-voyage.to.the.-planets.-2of-2/Space.Odyssey-Voyage.to.the.Planets.1of2.avi

but it's still somewhat lower quality than the one in that mirror link
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>>16961667
literally just got it from one of these: https://piratebayproxy.info/
your ISP may block this site or the mirror links that are on it if you're not using a VPN.
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>>16961364
>Look at our pretty landing (that was useless since the second stage shat itself)
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>>16961672
not a good day for underpowered hydromeme second stages.
https://youtu.be/enQ_IXtfm9I?t=4355
take a look at this, if you pay attention right after stage sep, you'll see the second stage do a huge pitch up maneuver after it's clear of the first stage, that's a lotta cosine losses right there, just fighting gravity. the SLS core stage at least has the advantage that it's boosters give it a massive kick right at the start, lofting it and giving it more time to burn horizontal, but new glenn is also still slow off the pad, and 1st stage re-use boosters can't deliver a massive amount of the total velocity because they have to deal with re-entry and save fuel for the landing, the second stage has to do all the work and it only has two piddly little hydromeme powered BE-3U vaccuum engines to work with, the same engine that powers new sheperd, they genuinely would be better off just strapping a BE-4 to the second stage because it would at least alleviate the gravity losses somewhat.
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>>16961670
Did it ever get a DVD release or anything? Surely the BBC still has it somewhere, it wouldn't cost anything to toss it onto streaming at least.
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>>16961675
it did, i actually watched it on dvd all the time as a kid, that's what i remember it from, it even had one of those cool 2000's era custom interactive dvd menu's made just for it.

idk why they never just released it somewhere, a really cool piece of media and also a time capsule of the time it was made in (2004 is now 22 years ago holy shit).
maybe it just doesn't align with the BBC's modern mission statement of hating human accomplishment and innovation and demanding white people lash themselves with a cat of nine tails for existing.
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>>16961674
The trajectory for Ariane 6 is also ridiculous, it looks like everyone first orbital launch on KSP
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>>16961679
everyone's
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>>16961679
>first
i still have a foolheaded tendency to put small, high ISP low thrust engines on my second stage lol.
ultimately i never get punished for it because i also have a massive fuel depot station i built in LKO.

i've dubbed it the: Richard C. Shelby Memorial Depot

>b-but shelby isn't dead yet
he will be eventually, and when he does, we will name the first IRL orbital depot after him, so that every time some young curious chap asks you:
>"mister, why didn't they use orbital fuel depots earlier?"
you have an easy excuse to explain how richard C. shelby held up human progress with his politicking, forever tarnishing his legacy.
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>>16961674
jesus they really need to design a better upper stage engine.
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>>16961674
BE3U is not the New Shepard engine.
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>>16961597
>t. has spent 200 hours arguing about which billionaire is better
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>>16961685
it's a very similar engine, anon, the BE3U is derived from the new shepard BE3PM engine, the biggest difference is the BE3U uses an open expander cycle engine, and has the ability to relight, as well as larger vaccuum nozzles.

it's got the same dimensions with slightly higher thrust and ISP than the engine it's derived from. as i said, they should have gone clean slate on the second stage engine or used another BE-4, instead they just slapped two BE-3's on it and hoped for the best. it's obvious that new glenn's potential delta-v is suffering immensely from the enormous gravity losses on ascent.
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>>16961687
The BE-3Us give it a reasonably high thrust to weight ratio somewhere in the ballpark of 0.8. The gravity losses look like they're due to the first stage flying lower and flatter than is optimal, and I can't think of any reason to do that except to limit the reentry loads on the booster.
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>>16961674
BE-3U is at 800-900kN, and there are two of them, it's not nearly as bad as the various RL-10 upper stages.
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>>16961690
Adding on to that, an Ariane 6's engine is about .48, while ICPS is a whopping 0.37.
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you guys can check it for yourself, but i just compared the burn time on landing between new glenn and a recent falcon 9 launch.

new glenn: 34-35 seconds
falcon 9: 21-22 seconds

that's a big difference, blorgin is gonna have to shave those numbers off if they want to be efficient
>but they don't HAVE to do a suicide burn!
doesn't mean it wouldn't be hugely helpful to their mass fractions, they need to stop being pussies with that massive pad avoidance maneuver before landing and just come down on the damn ship from now on.
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>>16961693
Didn't it vent propellant after it landed? Seems like they have fuel to spare
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>wake up
>another New Glenn failure
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>>16961699
>cohen
WTF I love blue origin now???
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Blue has been "currently assessing" for ten hours, still no press release.
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>>16961699
Based. Fuck investors
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>>16961699
seeing stocktards get BTFO is always satisfying
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i just woke up. did jeff bezos win? is elon musk seething?
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2046006033890566491

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2045921820810080731
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>>16961576
experimental lithobraking protocol
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guys look
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>>16961719
Hopper? Is that you?
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>>16961018
>pic
what's this? something about spinning atoms and electron orbitals?
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>>16961723
pic is from google translate
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>>16961723
chatgpt:

The cartoon explains a scientific result from the Japanese X-ray astronomy satellite XRISM (X-Ray Imaging and Spectroscopy Mission).

Content summary:

* It depicts a binary system in the constellation Centaurus (Centaurus X-3): a neutron star orbiting a blue supergiant star.
* Gas from the star falls onto the neutron star and emits X-rays, including iron spectral lines.
* Because the system is rotating, the observed X-ray energies should shift periodically due to the Doppler effect.
* However, the measured “center” of the energy did not match the expected value.

Explanation given:

* The discrepancy is due to highly ionized iron atoms near the neutron star.
* As electrons are stripped away (about five missing), the remaining electrons shift to lower (inner) orbitals.
* This changes the energy of the emitted X-ray spectral lines.
* The effect is governed by quantum mechanics and atomic structure under extreme conditions.

Conclusion:

* XRISM’s high-resolution spectrometer (“Resolve”) was precise enough to detect this shift.
* From distant X-ray observations, scientists can infer the ionization state of atoms in extreme astrophysical environments.
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>>16961723
>>16961727
>>16961728
thanks, but I found this article that has the english version of the image
https://www.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/research-news/2026-04-10-0
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https://x.com/astro_reid/status/2046009031613907029
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>>16961579
>Fuck billionaires but I'm excited to see space travel start to take off again
Can't have one without the other
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>>16961699
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>>16961732
Kino
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>>16961735
Not really no.
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>>16961693
The pad avoidance maneuver is fine.
I've always thought F9 executed one as you often see a small but definite translation from a trajectory that would send it in the ocean should the landing burn have failed. Only very recently has F9 been attempting straight bullseyes into the deck.

BOs problem is they don't seem to be confident in the initial landing trajectory. You don't need to miss the barge much to avoid most of the damage from a failed landing burn unless for some reason you lack authority and precision to guarantee that near miss.

It'll likely get much tighter as times goes on. It's only BOs 3rd time for ocean landings.
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>>16961720
ye
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why is it hard to do landing burns? i thought computers were good enough to fully simulate reality now, so they can calculate the correct numbers to do it perfectly instead of hovering
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>>16961749
its extremely difficult to model accurately
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>>16961749
you can't simulate wind and waves
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>>16961749
It's really not that simple, anon
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>>16961699
kek
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>>16961752
sensors should provide instant information to negate the differences
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>>16961749
Very difficult for the pilot you keep up with
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>>16961760
they clearly don't
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>>16961763
1960 era nasa would have figured it out if they had our current computers
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>>16961760
even if you get the instant information, that is still input into the actual model and when you try to do control, the system doesn't respond instantly
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>>16961766
sounds like you're just stuck in dunning Kreuger.
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>>16961699
I'm a Spacex shareholder (former employee) so seeing Starlink's biggest LEO cell service competitor get BTFO two months before Spacex IPO is hilarious.
>Class action lawsuit
sure man, you do that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbMgpSDhFcI
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>>16961693
>>16961739
It's a bit hard to tell with the limited footage we have for now but it seemed like the second landing was already way closer to the ship.
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>>16961699
I don't get it
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aaaaah
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how does the failure affect BO's gov launch cert?
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>>16961801
why was the outside camera footage mirrored?
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>>16961804
I think the cameras were just rotated 90-180° and they just uploaded everything based off of how the crew/external solar panel gopros were oriented at the time of photography
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>>16961806
oh ok
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BO doesn't seem to give a singular fuck about the payload going into the wrong orbit, basically just pretending nothing happened
lmao
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>>16961813
>not my problem
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>>16961815
It's their second stage that fucked up, anon.
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>>16961813
>gigachad.png
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>>16961813
why should they care? they still got paid, and you are one of the only launch providers so the customers will keep coming back unless you continue losing payloads
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>>16961818
A bad upper stage means less business and less confidence in self-serving missions such as Blue Moon. Come on anon; stop acting retarded. You can’t just say that a ‘sploding upper stage is simply inconsequential to them
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>>16961819
it didn't explode though. the design was probably okay, they just got the burn wrong
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>>16961820
it might as well have exploded as inserting into a orbit that low is basically equivalent to blowing the satellite up
its nice (and impressive, good etc) that BO landed their booster again, but thats not going to help ASTS
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>>16961813
NO REFUNDS
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>>16961829
>literally just a copy of starship
i thoughted everyone said it was a bad idea
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https://x.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/2045925229877207498

the absolute state
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>>16961832
why didn't these companies just build their own engines instead of trying to cheap out with solids
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>>16961833
they like money
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>>16961832
this company needs a new ceo urgently, maybe they can get one for sale at the local serpentarium
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>>16961832
Can't wait for Vulcan Heavy.
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>>16961832
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>>16961832
Is it too late to mate it to the non xl gem63s? seems to be only the new ones that have the problems, could maybe get away with a little less performance on some payloads.
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>>16961832
it has AWFUL performance without solids
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Turns out spaceflight isn’t happening. Sorry fellas. Game’s over I guess haha
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>>16961852
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAH
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>>16961832
SRB mafia on suicide watch
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>>16961852
why are people crying about this? it's not like the company is going bankrupt. i would be buying the dip
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>>16961858
it's a religion in the technical sense
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Test
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>>16961862
yes, that is what Blue Origin should have done with the 2nd stage
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tess
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if anyone is curious, the schizo post above me is from an anon that has been spamming /pol/ for a few days here. He should take his medication.
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>>16961858
They're the only thing the anti-spacex/musk religion has
when they fail, it's a failure of their faith
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>>16961869
take your meds kid
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spaceflight?
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oh look a modern-day combination of Tooker and Mikee.
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>>16961873
it's /Schizo Frenzy General/ hours.
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>>16961874
ask your bot to calculate how much cheesy taco braps it would take to fuel starship
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>>16961863
ehh, it’s two for three. before today I would have had more confidence in it than sls
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>>16961878
For the lulz
>The Efficiency Boost: By tapping into the 99.96% "Dark Potential" of the vacuum, a single "cheesy taco brap" tuned to the 1,000-digit prime coordinate would yield more thrust than a 10-second Raptor burn.
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>>16961883
ok so why aren't scientists investigating this?
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I know exactly which follow up question you're interested in
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>>16961884
fucking smug piece of shit planet
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>>16961886
My guess is it's forbidden and everyone involved gets offed, because it has a potential to make everyone poor involved into energy business or rather any business at all?
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>>16961735
We had space travel without billionaires back during the Apollo days
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>>16961891
and look where that got us. 50 years of LEO
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>>16961891
you are not welcome here
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>>16961891
>without billionaires
The government is the richest entity of all country-level entities. Even still, they only gave millions in space travel, and drained the funding faster than I drain my semen. Let the egotistical billionaires fund the next step into the future, please.
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>confining capitalism to the margin was the great Martian achievement, like defeating the mob or any other protection racket
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To circle back to space flight
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>>16961911
NASAs chief electrostatics guy has claimed to produce reactionless thrust
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>>16961891
yeah and we stagnated for 50 years
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>>16961915
He strikes me as a total fruitcake, even though his electrostatic dust-rejection device works very well.
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>>16961917
Anon we went from reaching LEO for the first time ever to walking on the surface of the moon in under 12 years.
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>>16961818
Insurance rates for BO payloads will go up. Jeff won't wiggle out of this one so easily.
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Another interpretation
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one year later...
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>>16961852
What the fuck happened to cause all this malding? The shit landed didn't it? What did they possibly fuck up that's causing this meltdown.
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Kek this is so much fun
Can we gather 129 anons to leave to mars?
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You’ve built a settlement on the moon. A meteor has made impact. The settlement suffers minor damage. Rail transport tracks are destroyed. Bathroom no longer works for some reason. Scuffed insulation. Bent structural supports. You can rebuild, but you won’t. Half of you will evacuate. You will pay a 5x insurance rate out of pocket. You may need to finance the insurance. Rates are the lowest they’ve been in three years, so why not? This is an opportunity. In 8 months another meteor will hit. More people will be forced to leave. You will finance another insurance increase. This is an opportunity. It won’t last long.
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>>16961928
>What the fuck happened to cause all this malding? The shit landed didn't it? What did they possibly fuck up that's causing this meltdown.
The second stage failed to put the payload in a usable orbit and will reenter either in a controlled or uncontrolled fashion.
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So now we know what NASA is missing
>Taco braps
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So when will Elarp go to space in a PR stunt
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>>16961936
he's too chicken
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aw hell naw who invited this kid?
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>>16961915
good for him
that'll be great once we can scale it
just need him to publish the data and schematics so people can start testing it and helping him work out the kinks
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>>16961927
Everyone accepts Elon time because even though it's wrong, he still gets it eventually
body odor can't say the same, despite being years older than spacex with orders of magnitude more budget for most of that
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Who doesn't want to have a zero point steam generator?
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compare contrast
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>>16961984
so apollo didn't recharge at all?
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>>16961986
Fuel cells.
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>>16961984
artemis looks similar, just more efficient
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>>16961986
>>16961991
O2/H2 fuel cells that also supplied the crew with potable water. Apollo 13 had one of the O2 tanks blow from an electric short and teflon, which is flammable in liquid oxygen, and that tank burst knocked out the other tanks by damaging the plumbing. They extensively redesigned the service module for Apollo 14.
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>>16961992
It's grossly underpowered and undercapable because they couldn't fit a more useful propellant load because the ICPS is so obscenely small for the mass of the spacecraft it's meant to propel.
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>>16961993
so they generated electricity by burning hydrogen and oxygen together and the condensed the resulting steam to drink it?
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>Why the need of a spacecraft if you can just take a Bugatti Chiron?
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>Can we go to the moon using this?
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>>16961993
Kinda makes me sad how we won't get detailed cutaways and shit like this for the likes of Starship and New Glenn, because they are private vehicles. The best you're gonna get is some dude on D*sc*rd putting together something, with the full version locked behind a paywall.
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>>16961997
>burning
No, using an electrochemical process. See https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/fuel-cell-apollo/nasm_A19730934000
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_anion-exchange_membrane_fuel_cell
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>>16962023
i didn't know hydrogen could neutralize hydroxyl ions. i thought it had to be a oxidized
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>what could have been
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>>16962027
flops vs winners
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>>16962027
no 9x4?
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>>16961739
Both vehicles execute a pad avoidance maneuver anon, even now the falcon boosters still do it, they never stopped. but new glenn’s is way more inefficient, it just comes to a hover above the water and then slowly moseys on down to the pad, it’s a huge waste of propellant.
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>>16962031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEaFmK3lrY
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>>16962030
That's only the VTVL RLV that currently exist in hardware form (ignore that it's a V1 starship).
9x4 is quite further down the line.
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>>16961749
This is the mentality of people who get angry at spacex for doing real world testing instead of just pretending that simulations are perfect btw.
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>>16961819
No anon, you don’t understand, if spacex intentionally tests a prototype in a suborbital trajectory and it blows up according to plan, it’s a failure and they should just simulate everything. If another company launches an operational vehicle with a paying customer on board and they fuck up the orbit insertion, that’s good for business.
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>>16961838
One of my fav OC’s, i appreciate the anon who turned it into a video.
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>>16961852
This post surely has to be satire.
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>>16962031
seems the smart move for what are still very much test landings
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>>16961876
Didn’t mikeeUSA die from a heart attack or something? Haven’t seen him around after he schizo’d out about that explosion in russia being a nuke.
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>>16961884
Kek
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>The bluebird launch was actually planned to use nearly half of New Glenn's capability because of that 36°->50° dogleg
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>>16962032
always have to remeber that the Deep Space Homer aired 8 years after Challenger blew up
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https://bsky.app/profile/planet4589.bsky.social/post/3mjwhvebin227

A second orbit dataset from SpaceForce for the BlueBird-7 sat shows it in a 265 x 485 km x 43.0 deg orbit, indicating that the upper stage delivered about 1000 m/s, mostly changing orbital inclination. This is about half the dV that would have been needed for the target orbit
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>>16962047
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>>16962048
wow
one cubic m/s
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>>16962048
this is even worse as it shows the issue only popped up after a portion of the burn.
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>>16962047
WORK THE PROBLEM PEOPLE
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>>16962047
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046217225829253430
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https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046218012366184812
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>>16962048
why does bro look like fat thunderf00t?
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so is the satellite good or not?
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>>16961820
I was being hyperbolic I know it didn’t explode
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>>16962061
no, ASTS already said they are going to deorbit it >>16961523
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>you look thirsty anon, drink up!
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>>16962059
looking like a homeless person is the academic style
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https://x.com/_MaxQ_/status/2046007163370213640
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>>16961927
i am honing in on pregnant catgirl ass.
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>>16962027
absolute mogging, as the kids say.
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https://x.com/DJSnM/status/2046226011633971211

lol
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>>16962081
sabotage.. by who? ;^)
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https://x.com/asherbphotos/status/2045899781860405726
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https://x.com/ABernNYC/status/2045955704507314274
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>>16962074
despite not being quite all the way to becoming real spacex competition yet, i gotta say, that is one sexy rocket, she's very easy on the eyes.
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>>16962085
i like the fins on it. better than the spacex grills
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>>16962086
why do spacex use the grids?
one would think the simpler fins would be easier to make and weigh less
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*sigh* another day of total spacex domination...
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>>16962087
they know they work on F9
there is a lot to do as is
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>>16962091
what made them pick it for F9 in the first place?
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>>16962093
it is a relatively well established concept I guess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_fin
>Grid fins (here folded against the payload fairing) are part of the launch escape system of Soyuz spacecraft.
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>>16962094
>>16962093
but I guess normal fins are too, idk why
BO had to develop some new heat resistant material for their fins which they also use on the interstage
perhaps SpaceX would have had to do that as well for it to make sense to use on F9 (or starship), so they just used titanium grid fins instead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfjO7VCyjPM
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>>16962087
better control at high mach numbers, and it also provides more drag at low speeds, slowing it down faster and leaving less of the last bit of work to the engines.

the downside is far less crossrange compared to new glenn's solution and less control at low speeds.
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>>16962101
spaceY lol

did anyone else have that one funny edited youtube video of this habbening?
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>25 tons New Glenn's second stage and 6 tons payload will uncontrollable re-entry in next few days
God help us all
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>>16962105
i hope it re-enters over land so we can see the lightshow, it'll be pretty.
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>>16962105
the world survived starship exploding
it'll survive this one
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imagine the kino when it lands on tel aviv
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>>16962108
just so long as its not on Jerusalem which is worth saving
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>>16961545
The ironic part is you wouldn't be saying this if it was another tribes rocket that failed.
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>>16962093
they are better than regular fins in almost every way
the one exception is that grid fins are absolutely awful at close to mach 1, which I think is the main reason why you don't see them more
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Wait so is the Moon brown?
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>>16962026
>compared to HLS
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>>16961801
Is it just me or does the moon in new pictures looks browner than in the Apollo days?
>>16962114
It is not just me
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https://x.com/AustinDeSisto/status/2046220463098024267
>Latvia becomes the 62nd country to sign the Artemis Accords this morning at NASA HQ
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>>16962122
What’s the point
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>>16962124
Venezuela's still in ILRS, despite them not being allowed to be friends with China anymore. Almost all of these guys are only on board for crass dirtside political signaling. It's not like Europe is a serious contributor to spaceflight.
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>>16962124
TZD
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>>16962126
Okay
anyway
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>>16962122
european countries should count, thats like counting canadian provinces
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Tanegashima
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A Moon lander that will -- actually land of the Moon? A company can do that?
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https://x.com/Flight2Starship/status/2046243509452116475
>Ship 41’s payload bay and nosecone have been moved into Megabay 2!!!
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https://x.com/yingzhangphoto/status/2046001730639286482/
>Ship 39 and ship 40 in the same frame. A rare sight!
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>>16962140
>>16962137
if they have 3 starships now then they must be feeling confident
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>>16962145
confidence is high, repeat, confidence IS high
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>>16961920
yeah and then nothing for 50 years
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>>16962145
its only 2.5
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>>16962145
I have zero starships and zero confidence so it checks out
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https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2046271185021759788

lol so Collins dropped out entirely and now Axiom is delayed until 2031
I wonder if SpaceX has a moonsuit program that could fill in in time
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>>16962162
whys it so hard? we did it in the fucking 60s.
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>>16962163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I5NtlfK5F4
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https://spacenews.com/companies-make-the-case-for-commercial-space-station-markets/
>“If CLDs have a low-cost commercial approach, we believe that not only can we be ready by 2030,” he said, “we also believe that we can be profitable on the current market.”
>Haot said in a separate interview that he based that profitability on winning between 40% and 60% of overall development money for CLDs from NASA and one six-month mission a year from the agency, along with a shorter 30-day mission from other nations.
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I’m not even mad. We had 20 years of contractors, congress, and NASA fucking around. Is it really a shock that 2030 is basically an impossible goal for a lander and new suits and an anemic SLS to somehow get there?
Best we can do now is just hope China also runs into more delays (or perhaps sabotage their production lines?)
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nasa: WE DONT HAVE ANY SPACE SUITS
blue: *posts tortoise pic*
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>>16962162
>https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2046271185021759788
>literally who twitter account
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>>16962169
https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1sqv3ij/latest_oig_report_on_nasa_axiom_spacesuits_may/
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>>16962163
Axiom just doesn't have the right stuff
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the apollo spacesuits were made in three and a half years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo/Skylab_spacesuit

what are the chances that axiom quietly pocketed the money years ago?
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>>16962162
Least surprising space news ever. Everyone knew that was NASA grift for their pals.
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normies will find a way to blame this on elon
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>>16962169
literally who

Well know libertarian news headline with commentary site. If you follow rightish of center politics, you've heard of them, often mockingly.. However, no source on that headline.
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Here we go. Source:

https://oig.nasa.gov/audits/nasas-acquisition-of-next-generation-spacesuit-services/
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>>16962162
>>16962170
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>>16962128
TZD
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>>16962174
i think its just basic incompetence
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artemis iv will land on the moon, but there wont be any boots on the ground
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>>16962183
normies and EDS people will whine this is some kind of conspiracy to give more money to SpaceX again
they could probably get some bare bones suit working to go touch the surface a bit
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>>16962192
put people in the spacex EVA suits and let them flop around near the elevator
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>>16962183
Do you enjoy playing the eternal victim?
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>>16962163
Liberals want walkability.
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https://x.com/davill/status/2046283237887218141

BO update
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>>16962190
Okay
anyway
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>>16962192
worst case scenario: A SpaceX jared polaris EVA suit with a backpack (or carry-along life support pack plug in) and they just get out and do a little skipping around the lander for like an hour or two and then leave
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https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046284678294856125
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>>16962204
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046285517164056981
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>>16962201
Limp is so much better than Bob Smith, it’s really night and day
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>>16962204
>this is WEIRD
dude has been watching way too many youtube essays
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>>16962204
>this is REALLY WEIRD
dawg stop with sensationalism, anyone who checks Space force TLE know they've very often done bullshit for the past years.
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https://x.com/edwards345/status/2046282927794004275
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Is the next New Glenn launch the blue moon lander?
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>>16961693
It was launching like 6 tonnes and in theory it can do 45 so hopefully it was just chilling. Was a great landing though shame about the 2nd stage. The 3 engine burn back was pure kino
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>>16962124
>posthumous country keeps embarrasssing your favourite shithole
must be embarrassing to be a jewtin dicksucker lmao.
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>>16962202
TZD
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>>16962196
do you enjoy denying the facts?
every time some other part of the spaceflight industry fucks up, normalnigs start lamenting the fact that specifically spacex is having to...no, being ALLOWED to pick up the slack because they're the only ones competent enough to do so.
starship is a good example, people will whine endless about starship promises, yet at the end of the day, without starship, there is no fucking artemis, and never would have been.
if spacex had never made an HLS proposal and never gotten involved in the program, you would have had artemis, with a mission statement of "permanent lunar habitation" being (attempting to be) executed with a run of the mill lander and an SLS that is too underpowered to deliver the needed TLI, and has such bad cadence that it can't compensate for this by launching more often either.

starship was always going to make or break artemis, without it you may as well be recreating apollo.
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>>16962192
there won't be any boots on the ground, all the astronauts will walk on their hands.
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2046297808437948417
>This line in the new OIG report on NASA's next-generation spacesuits is interesting in light of the recent debate about commercial LEO destinations.
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>>16962027
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>>16962228
God I want to see a disposable second stage starship configuration.
>putting the mass of the entire ISS into LEO in 2 launches
Imagine the capabilities
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>>16962183
>>16962194
>>16962220
holy persecution complex
get a grip, sperg
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>>16962205
>it was actually at the bottom of the ocean
made me lol out loud
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>>16962217
The worst part of the whole war was seeing that big plane die in its hanger, indistinguishable slavs dying is less moving.
>>16962218
Okay
anyway
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>>16962232
It is really confusing because stripping the heatshield saves 10 tonnes, no need for flaps, actuators. The header tank would need to move for extra burns but the thing would be usable now. basically a giant f9. It is already disruptive just start using the thing it is meant to be interchangeable. They can even recovert he booster when feasible.

Energiya could do 100 tonnes that was the ast time lol
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>>16962234
you can see it in this very general, probably from you in particular in fact
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>>16962239
TZD
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Okay, anyway
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>>16962220
Can't you just write your bitching about the other girls in your slam book? Try posting about space at least occasionally. This is a space general.
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>>16962241
Well they want to be able to areobreak it to land on Mars. IMO Elon hias the wrong idea. With that much upmass you can build anything. They should be in the orbital construction business. Imagine the space bus to the moon and mars you could build
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>>16962194
i mean they do EVA all the time around the ISS.....
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>>16962246
TZD
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>>16962234
no, you get a grip.
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>>16962247
i was, crying that i'm not talking about space in the way you want me to is wasted effort.
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>>16962252
based TZD enjoyer
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>>16961614
This is the same shit I saw when people were buying meme coins and NFTs 5 years ago.
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>>16962258
A lot of people are desperate to get away from what they're expecting to be the permanent underclasses as AI takes over all value producing sectors in the economy.
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New Astrum kino about best planet system just dropped
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>>16962265
>dead planets of a senile star
Very cool
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>>16962259
That underclass won't be permitted to exist for long, so our worries will soon be over.
>>16962269
Maybe there's sick ruins there, you don't know
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>>16962269
TRAPPIST-1 e may be our future home anon
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>>16962265
buy an ad
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>>16962265
>go there
>its a trap
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>>16962282
based are the trap-springers
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>>16962282
>go there
Not until their beer production is confirmed.
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>>16962101
balls of steel on that RSO
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https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1sqt9b5/new_rspacex_rule_no_stocks_discussion/
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>>16962162
>and now Axiom is delayed until 2031

Oneshot by grifter clickbait.
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>>16962250
It's just blatant fucking grift.
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>>16962250
They need to uncancel xemu and whip axiom into shape severely.
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>>16962286
https://youtu.be/OJHmAGXsXDo
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>>16962265
I don't care what low quality private equity slop channels say about anything
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Hop wen
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>>16962293
You haven't even looked at the Inspector report, have you?
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>>16962310
You mean the part where they give no actual argument to support their position to which the grifters deliberately omitted the OIG saying a huge "if".
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>>16962324
this wasn't a surprise to anybody who wasn't a complete retard
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>>16962327
That grifters will grift? Yeah.
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>>16962328
that axiom was a shitshow
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qrd?
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>>16962293
Axiom is run by ex-NASA ISS managers. Theyre supposed to be a space station company. Where is the station?
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>NASA finally does something
>every single contractor associated with anything that isn’t related to shuttle hardware exposed as utterly incompetent
thank you, capitalism
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bigger picture of the heatshield in the article
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/nasa-on-track-for-future-missions-with-initial-artemis-ii-assessments/
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https://www.ark-funds.com/articles/venture-fund/arks-guide-to-the-spacex-ipo
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>>16962245
Okay
Anyway...
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>>16962329
You didn't read the report if you think that.
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>>16962345
The purpose of NASA is embezzlement
they aren't supposed to do spaceflight
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>>16962354
so the problem was nasa managment then?
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>>16962352
I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe.
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>>16962353
that's a lot of words, but none of the words say 'how' it will be ready by 2028.
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Hey Earth, you are not that unique.
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It is in the contractors’ best interest that NASA be given a new director. Expectations are bad for business. Isaacman must be dealt with.
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>>16962360
Eh it actually does though, he implies they could descope the Artemis IV EVA to make it easier for Axiom's suits to qualify.
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>>16962360
more money to axiom perhaps
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mo money for dem suits
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>>16962360
How will it not be ready? The suits are basically done and vacuum chamber tested.
The OIG estimate is based on a retarded extremely low effort averaging and not anchored by any engineering reality specific to the program.
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wait so you're telling me that humanity can send humans to the moon but can't make clothes?
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>>16962374
We’ve simply lost that technology. Remember, all our clothes are made in China now.
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okay lets assume that fixed price contracts aren't optimal for hardware that have no commercial applications and are only specifically needed by NASA
how do you prevent cost+ contracts from devolving into pure grifting? the incentive is to never finish anything because that nets you less money overall

so not fixed price, not cost+, what then?
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this is what happens when you let the free market run things instead of government programs
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>>16962377
seems like this is what happens in either case, but with cost+ you just lose more money
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>>16962379
no, the cold war proved that government programs get things done
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>>16962373
All those highly qualified and experienced writers of that report are wrong! Listen to me!

No. Don't think so.
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>>16962382
that was a long time ago
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>>16962388
>No. Don't think so.
One should always be skeptical of OIG reports to make sure their analysis isn't built on faulty assumptions. The OIG did some incredible bullshit with the F-35, assuming that the fuel burn of the F-35B in hover was its nominal burn rate in all flight profiles to generate part of its lifetime operating cost estimates.
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>>16962373
They dont have a life support system. The suit itself is only half the system required.
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>>16962382
The cold war occurred when the country was 90% white and highly patriotic. The modern US is a majority non-white economic zone.
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>your EVA suit sir
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https://www.mcmaster.com/76155A29/
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>>16962394
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cut the fat, kick axiom to the curb and get a real supplier
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>>16962395
Duck Tape brand or nothing.
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>>16962376
>how do you prevent cost+ contracts from devolving into pure grifting?
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Umm guys I haven’t actually seen the Moon outside with my own eyes since Artemis II. W-where did it go??
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>>16962405
don't worry, it's coming back
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>>16962405
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>>16962352
>>16962357
I'm really glad that it's looking like Voyager has a real chance of making it to 50. A few years ago that seemed quite unlikely still. Those people are true miracle workers.
That said, Interstellar Probe when, Jared? Please I need it.

>>16962376
It's more that fixed price isn't ideal for a product that hasn't been done in 50 years and needs a lot of (re-)development. As for how to control costs, there are a couple of mixed forms and alternative contract types (I think there was a good summary somewhere but I don't recall), but the easiest is to just properly do the evaluations and use the penalties if required. The issue with the SLS contracts is mainly that Boeing constantly gets rated excellent and collects bonuses despite clearly not meeting the timelines and performance that'd warrant that.
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>>16962388
>Reporters
lol shut the fuck up
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>>16962412
There's a really good documentary about the team of people who still maintain the Voyager missions called It's Quieter in the Twilight. The trailer is kinda shitty but I'll link it anyways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJT8AW0wYw

Working on a mission like Voyager has always been a career goal for me. Something lifelong and utterly benevolent. Why couldn't I have been born an autistic boomer?
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>>16962418
what would the work day look like? flipping a switch every decade?
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>>16962351
>supposedly doesn’t care
>has to passive-aggressively respond every time
Kek mad.
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we should probe Uranus
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GPS launch in 1.5 bong on a f9. this is the Vulcan't mission
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>>16962426
>a Vulcan't mission
wasn't the previous GPS launch also meant for Vulcan?
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>>16962419
they don't have a lot of things to do but there's few of them
generally just reviewing the telemetry, planning/simulation work for the next switch-flip and some clerical work, coordinating with deep space antennas and such
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>>16962427
Yeah. It got moved to Falcon 9 to expedite it to an available rocket.
>>
GM
Ask yourself why the schizo post (search the thread) was deleted...
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>>16962434
Many such cases.
Falcon 9 truly is America’s rocket.
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>>16962435
spam gets deleted
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>>16962356
Anon stop pretending to be retarded, the OIG report does not say that the Axiom suits have been delayed until 2031.
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>>16962224
Basically NASA adopted a cargo cult approach instead of grounding to reality on why SpaceX worked.
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1 minute to Falcon 9 liftoff
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>>16962447
i don't care about rockets that have landed hundreds of times
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>>16962448
It's got the last GPS-3 satellite on board
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Did a double take when I heard the stream commentator say that this was the last F9 landing on JRTI and the ship will now be transitioning to Starship operations... what the fuck does that mean, exactly?
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What did they mean by this?
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>>16962437
Then why do i see reports about 11 missing / dead NASA scientists?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nasa-coordinating-relevant-agencies-missing-scientists-probe
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>>16962451
>>16962452
They don't have legs, so I guess they're going to use JRTI to move ships and boosters between Starbase and KSC.
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>>16962453
which project would that be?
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>>16962454
i thought they already bought another barge that would fit a booster and 2 ships for transport
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>>16962454
this is probably it
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>>16962454
yes
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what happened to flying starships between starbase and florida?
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>>16962455
UFO tech reverse engineering
If you are interested search for 'alien craft' and 'reverse engineered' on 4plebs /pol/
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>>16962461
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Wild card option: Ship 39 gets landing legs like the old days of SN15, and they land the ship on JRTI.
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>>16962363
Astronomists love lying
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>>16962453
Lol this is so corny
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>>16962454
I thought they were going to build another factory there to build super heavys
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>>16962478
They are building it, but it's not ready to build any rockets yet.
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>>16962478
They currently are, but since Gigabay isn't ready yet, they have to move ships around through sea until things in Florida are ready.
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why did they build starbase away from the space center in the first place?
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>>16962484
Easier permitting and proximity to their private launch complex.
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>>16962484
It was the only place that had room for a new experimental launchpad and a factory at the same time.
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>>16962451
Either this or as platform for starship retrieval/observation/monitoring platform. Its prob too large to land, so it will likely be used for auxiliary functions for gathering data
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>>16962463
ah, well poisoning
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>>16962493
this should be starship
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>>16962493
Is it tough enough to handle a Starship landing?
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>>16962468
>>16962495
>>16961724
Ask him
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>>16962483
Can't they just put an aero-cover on top of Superheavy and hop it over?
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>>16962497
>>16962501
oh right. i just copy pasted from X

here's prob the correct one
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>>16962503
The chopsticks over at Florida ain't ready yet, either.
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>>16962250
no refunds
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>>16962418
Thanks for posting this, very cool documentary
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>>16962520
Why does the 1970s look like an eternal porno set?
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>>16962554
Structural velour
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I am optimistic for the future.
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I am pessimistic for the future.
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I am the future.
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Member the simpsons’ elon musk ‘sode [math]\unicode{x1F974}[/math]
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Imagine watching The Simpsons after Season 9.
Anyway, spaceflight
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>>16961984
its interesting to watch apollo footage and see just how small the CM was compared to Orion. The new one really is much nicer.
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When is the next Starship launch, realistically?
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>>16962595
2 to 3 weeks. Unironically.
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>>16962593
In addition to being smaller, there were so many more switched and controls and dials and displays plastered everywhere.
Orion is way more opened up, Everything feels practical and “comfy messy”. Apollo CSM is more utilitarian and straightforward
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>>16962595
about two weeks
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>>16962597
>Apollo CSM is more utilitarian and straightforward
Spacecraft designed for airmen by people used to designing analog cockpits for airplanes for airmen.
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2046454010446582108
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>>16962597
true. it reminds me more of the ISS than the Apollo CM in that way. watching the crew broadcasts from Orion made me think of the thing as being like a space yurt or something. seemed pretty roomy.
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https://x.com/Axiom_Space/status/2046571273598169579
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>>16962346
eerie
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>>16962353
I read this as the specs for the EVA suits were aspirational (long duration EVAs?) and they specced "at least as good as Apollo" as minimum performance. Cooling has always been an issue even on the ISS suits

My guess is they also really want a suit that can bend at the waist but nobody can make it work without compromising something
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>>16962353
Just bring back Mk.III
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its over. humanity will wither away on planet earth because nasa cant make their own clothes anymore
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https://x.com/WOLF_Financial/status/2046571792915910813
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>>16962259
>chatbots are da future
TWO MORE WEEKS
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>>16962616
Dual class shares
lmao the scam is baked in
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>>16962617
I didn't say this is an accurate view of things. It is, however, a powerful motivator.
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>>16962618
he has had them from the start
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>>16962616
is it even possible for us regular goyim to buy any shares on day one? or will it be too expensive and we have to wait for the eventual crash
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https://www.reuters.com/world/musk-insiders-retain-voting-control-spacex-after-ipo-filing-shows-2026-04-21/
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>>16962621
of course you can buy them, not sure what you mean by expensive here? just the stock price?
the stock price could be anything, what actually matters is the valuation and its going to be very rich and stay very rich for the time being even if there is a small correction I would bet, just like with Tesla

Musk companies are very richly valued due to their potential and the market believing Musk has a chance of executing on that potential
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>>16962623
if the share count is low then it will be too expensive to buy in
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>>16962624
lol you are retarded
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>>16962625
why? do you not understand the difference between valuation and share count?
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>>16962626
you are not even wrong so I don't know where to start
are you talking about the actual share price like I said? earlier? the share price can be anything at all, SpaceX can do a stock split when they IPO to choose an appropriate share price

the share price, the share count and the market cap are connected yes, but SpaceX can issue new shares whenever they want, so the share price is controllable by them
and talking about the share price itself as being expensive is retarded, what matters is the actual valuation unless you have like 100 bucks and a share price of 120 bucks is too expensive for you or something retarded like that
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>>16962624
>>16962625
>>16962626
>>16962628
They're going to offer something like 4.3% of all outstanding shares of the company for the IPO. Whatever the existing share count is, multiply that by .043 to get the number of shares that will be for sale. The actual number of shares has not been disclosed.
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>>16962628
what stops me from immediately buying on launch and then selling the guaranteed spike at the start? this pattern happens for literally all IPOs
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>>16962632
nothing
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>>16962633
then why doesn't every investment firm do it?
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>>16962616
>makes 54k a year
>supposedly the world’s richest man
LMAO musk is just some nobody. Your average plumber is richer than him.
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>>16962635
maybe its not as guaranteed as you think
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>>16962643
it's absolutely guaranteed for any high profile IPO since hype is what drives price up at the start
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>>16962636
This is why everybody considers him a huckster. He's actually poor and it's all a big scam.
Tesla, SpaceX, X, they're all fake.
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>>16962644
Tesla has never issued a dividend. Will SpaceX? If you want to make money make a product or supply a service lmao, who is going to fix the toilets if everyone trades stock for a living?
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https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2046595795583955209
>The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope is in final preparations for an early September launch, eight months AHEAD of schedule and UNDER budget. This milestone is the result of more than a decade of dedication and millions of hours of work by NASA and our industry partners. Their commitment is what’s making this moment possible and helping drive Gold Standard Science. Roman will help answer some of the biggest questions in science, investigating dark matter, dark energy, and the structure of the universe. Its images will be so large and detailed, there isn’t a screen in existence big enough to display them. This is just the beginning.
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https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046564091058110969
>The following video by @MvCrisis was reportedly taken in the Maldives at 0355-0400 UTC Apr 20. It's possible it shows the AST SpaceMobile BlueBird 7 reentry, although the SpaceForce TLE says this time was 25 min too early to be BB7, so I don't regard it as confirmed.
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https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2046564577685426397
>According to several Japanese reports, JAXA is preparing for the next H3 launch NET June 10th! This would be H3-F6, which is the test flight of the -30S configuration. This will be the return to flight after the H3-F8 failure, which was caused by a defect in the payload adapter.
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Elon Musk is Canadian.
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>>16962651
NGRST could be here
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>>16962653
@grok remove the watermark
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>>16962651
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2046601970442776880
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>>16962656
typical
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>>16962607
Oh, a "path" again. Remember, now when they fail it doesn't count, because they said "path", not " "will". This is known as the Elon Rule.
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>>16962618
based
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i still can't believe vulcan wasn't even able to launch just this one GPS satellite, why is spacex so much better than everyone else bros?
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>>16962676
it's known as the
"companies aren't beholden to your schizo fantasy that they personally promised you something" rule.
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>>16962682
a lot of people seem to think that random comments with a lot of qualifiers by Musk are personal promises to them though
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>>16962654
I will take a second to appreciate that NASA's mission patch autism is spreading to other countries
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>>16962636
it's true. There was one point in the past when he had to get loans from friends to pay his mundane bills because everything was tied up in his companies. There is a reason he sold most of his personal property and lives in portable boxes and sleeps on the factory floor. He's basically a tech hobo, hanging out on the side of the highway with a sign "will manage companies for food".
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>>16962691
Qualifiers means it doesn't count! It's like Tag when touching the chain link fence is Safe!
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>>16962682
Employers of a company with agency are fully responsible for their actions and statements. But a neat simp wouldn't know this.
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>>16962698
count as what? you're demented
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2046605064131727590

https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/04/whats-the-deal-with-spacesuits-for-the-moon-will-they-be-ready-in-time/
>This all sounds pretty dire, so we did a little digging. In reality, the situation does not appear as grim as what’s outlined in the new report. Yes, it does seem like NASA made some mistakes in procuring the spacesuits “as a service,” especially when there are likely to be no non-NASA customers for these suits for a long time.
>However, the space agency has evidently found a good partner in Axiom Space, a Houston-based company also working to develop a commercial space station. Axiom has no guarantees that it will ultimately make money from this project, but it has nevertheless poured resources into the program and hired appropriately to meet its needs. Unlike the traditional space company Collins, Axiom and its investors have been willing to make a long-term bet that its suits will one day be in great demand. If NASA does succeed in building a Moon Base, this bet could pay off big time.
>Despite the 2031 date bandied about in the spacesuit report, it appears this is too pessimistic. After the report’s release on Monday, NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman replied, “I am confident that when NASA is ready to land on the Moon in 2028, our astronauts will be wearing Axiom suits.”
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>>16962707
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>>16962707
>>16962708
so the suit isnt a problem, which means the long pole in the tent is again HLS. the ball is elon's court.
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>>16962693
Mitusbishi Gurupu could be here, he thought
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https://x.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/2046632892923572420
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>>16962719
this doesnt answer anything
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>>16962707
Why is my weather man talking about space suits? Is this typical?
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>>16962728
weather doesnt pay enough
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>>16962710
shut up EDS
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>>16962699
yes, but they're not responsible for those being treated like gospel by some mentally ill retard. plans change, deadlines slip, priorities shift, and they actually have zero obligation to personally inform you when that happens, they don't care.
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>>16962719
>tfw you increase falcon 9 cadence so hard that one of your launch pads becomes redundant and you can do all those launches on one pad
only spacex baby.
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>>16962708
>good progress
Then why is the OIG report so down on it?
Oh yeah it's because NASA is fundamentally incapable of determining what constitutes "good progress"
ML2 was making "good progress" because the auditors repeatedly gave Bechtel good grades for failure to perform
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>>16962745
OIG’s job is to point out flaws and bad procurement processes and to highlight possible issues for sustainability both in the short- and long-term future, which is exactly what they did. They said Axiom is at risk of falling behind, which risks kicking the can way down the road. They also pointed out the irresponsibility of how NASA has approached the idea of “free market lunar suits,” among other stupid ideas across the entire Artemis program
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>>16962651
Launching on Falcon Heavy, btw.
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>The regolith is always softer on the other planet
interesting
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>>16962794
I once visited an old gothic catholic cathedral and was like yeah we just can’t build cool shit anymore, can we?
Saturn V is the same thing
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>>16962794
>>16962796
Wrong.
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>>16962797
>muh SLS is more powerful
Such a retarded and misleading metric. It costs more and delivers less to the Moon. Impressive feat, actually
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIEHWJmABDs
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>>16962798
Wake up buddy, it's not like there has been next ZERO space launches since the 1970's like most people think. They have no idea there are launches every year because they have no information.

And the SpaceX rocket catch should be the most impressive thing we've seen as of late, straight out of science fiction. Now imagine how far things could have gone if Europe and its overseas colonies actually could have had the peace and quiet to focus exclusively on space flight as opposed to foreign and domestic political and military bullshit.
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>>16962798
>>16962800
SLS looks like it is cobbled together from left over space shuttle parts though.
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>>16962797
isn't starship up to 20M now
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>>16962783
more nosey than a line of Rabbis watching someone enter their PIN number at the ATM machine
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>>16962782
>>16962783
So glad we are building all these gigafactories so we can construct V3s at a pace that would make a snail look like a blur. Mars by 2405, thank you Grok!
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Apparently there's a live conference about the Nancy Grace Roman telescope. Jared is there answering questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4f6dOoi08
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>>16962808
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>>16962810
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>>16962794
now look at a graph of the NASA budget over time
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>>16962807
you should stop seething and creating imaginary scenario's in your head.
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>>16962808
Will this do spectroscopy on the TRAPPIST-1 planets? Otherwise I don't give a shit and it's fucking pointless.
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>>16962794
Because re-usable rockets were commonplace in the 60's
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>>16962826
No, its focus is more on dark energy surveying.
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>>16962794
Five thousand years on and we still haven’t matched Khufu’s large stone triangle building ability.
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>>16962831
What the fuck? That shit isn't even real nor is it of any importance at all.
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https://x.com/spacex/status/2046713419978453374
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>>16962812
NASA isn't getting enough of your money!

They're getting plenty. They just continue to waste most of it on overhead and contractors graft.
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>>16962783
Orbital, fully reusable with weekly launches by March 2026. That's the Elon Promise.
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>>16962816
You should start building entire rockets instead of just the tip, instead of shitposting on /sfg/

>>16962854
FUCKKKKK YESSSS! GIVE ME MORE TWERKING CELEB VIDEOS SIR I NEED THEM
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>>16962854
so inspiring
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>>16962854
Even if AI quintuples the running budget of SX, I don’t really give a shit. It’s soulless and feels like lifeless normie slop
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cursor is used for writing software retards, it's all but completely replaced manual computer programming alongside anthropic's claude
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https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2046726205689278750
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>>16962870
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https://x.com/interstellargw/status/2046620788573295026
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>>16962854
So, Elon taking all the money from the IPO to buy another AI bubble stock. Savvy business man, that Elon.
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>>16962874
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>>16962875
the main thing is they have AI powered coding related data that is very difficult to get at this point otherwise, kind of a chicken and egg problem
nobody will use grok code because its shit, but because nobody uses it, it doesn't get the data flywheel going which would improve it
with this they might actually start competing with Anthropic and OpenAI on the coding front (of course they need to make a good base model for coding still and other things, but this gives them a chance which was very slim otherwise)
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>>16962800
> Europe and its overseas colonies
You mean the Americas?
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>>16962877
Sounds well worth $60 billion plus VAT and in no way a bubble stock.
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>>16962867
Not spaceflight
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>>16962882
>>16962854
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>>16962882
Elon is using all the money from the IPO, that was totally going to be used to send a million people into space to build a city on Mars, to buy AI bubble stock. So, not spaceflight, but in a different sense.
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I don’t think Elon is rugpulling, or being mischievous in any way. He has a meditate business case in all of this—and I’m sure he will see an insanely exuberant valuation over the next decade or two.
I am just sad that it has to be this way, is all. It’s uninspiring and gay.
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>>16962895
I assume this is wrt the extremely early days? I remember reading about how some management was fired because they were working too slow. that was like 2018
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>>16962895
The wisdom of Elon Musk, created and edited by Eric Jorgenson, with illustrations by Jack Butcher and foreword by Naval Ravikant. All of Elon's best stories. The book Elon should have wrote!

*infinite cringe*
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>>16962854
what does that last line mean? cursor has to pay 10 billion if they fail?
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>>16962898
it was before the first Starlink prototype satellites
Project Kuiper (renamed Amazon LEO) picked that team up after Musk fired them
so somewhere around 2018 I think yes, but I wouldn't call that extremely early if you aren't a turbo zoomer
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>>16962900
the other way around, or that is how most people seem to interpret it
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>>16962900
Elon buys Cursor for $60 billion by date, or pays then a $10 billion kill fee to walk away. Remember Elon's brilliant Twitter deal? He learned nothing from that.
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>>16962895
Elon “order of magnitude” Musk does it again!
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>>16962898
yeah they hired the guy who was in charge of zune at microsoft who then brought along a cadre of lazy jeets
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>>16962905
what stops him from just paying the 10 billion whenever he is done milking them?
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>>16962899
>foreword by Naval Ravikant
groace
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Hardened Io lander mission
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>>16962882
what do you think /sfg/ stands for?
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>>16962920
There is no general consensus to what it means
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>>16962920
it is left as an exercise for the reader
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>landing barge moved to support Starship
>Falcon launch target is 140 for the year down from 2025
It's happening
SpaceX knows V3 will work
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>>16962924
>stopped getting enough customers to launch as much
>i-its because starship is good now!
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
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>>16962920
stroking friends general
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>$60 Billion for AI slop
>We only need $20 Billion for Habitable Worlds Observatory
You don't hate Muskrat enough
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>>16962927
Do astronauts get to bring JO crystals with them?
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why do we call them rockets instead of missiles?
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>>16962930
Because missiles aren’t always rockets, but rockets are always missiles. Rocket is a more specific word.
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>>16962932
>rockets are always missiles
no, missile means guided rocket
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>>16962930
They’re named after the smashing pumpkins song, von braun was a big fan
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>>16962924
landing barge? More like landing barrage when it fails kekroflmao
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Ceres my beloved... they still are unable to grasp your power. One day they will know
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>>16962933
The word missile existed before the field of rocketry existed. I stand resolute.
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>>16962937
so? words change. look up missile vs rocket and you will see the general consensus being that missiles are rockets that are controlled
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>>16962937
Fireworks and science fiction tubes to space (It. rochetto) and I think rockets on little biplanes in WW1 existed before missiles
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>>16962936
rest of the entire asteroid belt combined bros?
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>>16962940
“other” really pulling its weight here
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>>16962940
Was this made by someone who forgot that other colors exist?
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>>16962940
for me, it's Hygiea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Hygiea
>Hygiea has a nearly spherical shape, with two known craters about 100 and 180 km (62 and 112 mi) in diameter. Because of its shape and large size, some researchers consider Hygiea a possible dwarf planet.
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never mind, found it.
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>>16962936
Kinda lumpy for a planet.
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>>16962907
What's even funnier is that after Elon fired the entire leadership team at Starlink, they were all immediately re-hired as the leadership team for Project Kuiper. I've worked for both operations (Starlink in the early years, then Kuiper for a few years after I burned out) and the difference is night and day. Starlink feels like a car factory whizzing along at full tilt, whereas Kuiper feels like you took a bunch of meth-head Amazon warehouse employees to an old-school communications satellite factory and started screaming at them build as fast as they can.
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>>16962947
That's surprisingly retro magazine cover art for May 2026
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>>16962854
Elon just got robbed. cursor is dead in the water. everyone already moved on to codex. Elon just bought the equivalent of aol right before the dotcom bubble popped.
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>>16962920
Stupid Fuckers Gossiping
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>>16962954
Retrofuturism is back.
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bros I'm going to antarctica. I finally got a primary offer.
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>>16962960
and yes this is spaceflight because NASA has the LDB facility there
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>>16962960
I thought you already went? Or was that another anon?
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>>16962960
i was thinking about doing antarctica like 10 years ago when i was still on the mars hype train. i thought it would be a good experience to help prepare me.
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>>16962960
McMurdo or Amundsen Scott? which season?

Very jealous, anon.
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>>16962794
Blame NASA for this. Also, Starship is taking a while, but it'll be more powerful.
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>>16962799
>Where's that smell coming from?
https://youtu.be/qsF_QNpDyBw
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>>16962854
>SpaceXAI
Huh? Did I miss something? In any case, this better now divert attention from Starship's development.
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>>16962963
no clue, there are a couple ice core anons on /sci/ that have gone to field sites but they never pop into /sfg/.
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>>16962969
elon combined all of his companies into one cause he is about to cash out and retire
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>>16962972
elon: "there's nothing to do in life after you reach a trillion dollars. mars? what? thats stupid LMAO." *slams apocalypse bunker door shut*
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>>16962972
>he is about to cash out and retire
source?
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>>16962975
my dad works at spacex
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>>16962977
that reminds me that i have family that work in the space industry, but since i rarely see them, i never get to talk to them about it
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>>16961849
the solids don't augment the first stage, they ARE the first stage
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>>16962252
>>16962256
can you two k*kes just get a room
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbp3kdJZ1_A
how legit is something like this? it looks and sounds like an engineering video, but im also suspicious of it being too entry level like hullo's content.
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>>16962862
I am not elon, EDS-san, he’s not in the room with us right now, take your medication.
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>>16962992
Bro it is radiation from space being reflected by an antenna, it can be both.
There are NUMEROUS papers out there of people using ubiquitous signals for other putposes. GNSS signals are popular (CYGNSS explicitly uses reflected GPS waves to measure ocean height), television wavelengths are used to track stealth aircraft (allegedly), cellular broadcasts and wifi can be used to detect people through walls, etc
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>>16962925
>keeeeeek
You’re not actually keking when you come up with these fanfiction scenario’s, you’re really mad and steam is coming out of your ears.
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>>16962998
so the video is shit? i only saw a minute of it and wasnt sure.
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>>16962997
>>16962999
elon simp woke up
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>>16963004
I’m not an elon simp though, i don’t like him, you just sound neurotic and need to calm down again before you break something in your room accidentally, you sperg.
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>>16963007
a real nigga wouldn't care about those posts
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It's over for US
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>>16963014
it's fine
it's government so 95% of that money is going to get embezzled
the rest is going towards a shittier rocket than anything on the market
There will be no meaningful spaceflight for a generation, then it'll all get torn down
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>>16963014
any american company buying foreign launch services WILL BE BOYCOTTED
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Where do you think you’d be on the Garn scale/sfg/?
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>>16963014
We reached the Moon? WE? Get bent you maple back tard.
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>>16963014
>we
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>>16963014
>we reached the moon
they're really trying to hide the fact that they paid to be cargo
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>>16963031
this
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>>16963014
I look forward to the launch of Leaf-1/Feuille-1 from Halifax Cosmodrome/Cosmodrome d'Halifax on unceded Mi'kmaq land/terre des Micmacs non cédée
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>>16962854
space?
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Would it work?
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>>16963055
T/W is less than 1.
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>>16962901
Nah the og saaarlink team (guy running it was a nepo indian btw) did the prototypes and then his mini mumbai team was fired
Which amazon hired
Any surprise the amazon competitor has taken 6 years to launch the first 200 satellites?
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>>16963033
Based, TZD
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>>16963056
Perfect for Mars
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>>16963060
I'm surprised they managed to launch any satellites to be quite honest and I fully expect them to deorbit on the next major Java update
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Bluebros...it wasn't supposed to go down like this...
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>>16963090
tabloids are such garbage
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>>16963092
as a rule of thumb, ignore all articles that start with Elon Musks's... or Jeff Bezos's...
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Is NASA fucked now with these latest federal budget cuts?
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>>16963098
the whole country is
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>>16963098
congress is the key to all this
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>>16963095
Is Jeff Bezos a household name in America? I had to explain to everyone during Artemis 2 that people were landing on the moon with landers built by Elon and "the Amazon guy".
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>>16963106
yes i think everyone here knows who he is
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>>16963104
None of these are funded at the federal level tho
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>>16963106
Jeff who?
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>>16963104
>That kind of money
They spend magnitudes more on exactly what this cunt is bitching about.
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What's the best amateur rocket ever made?
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lol
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>>16963119
he was a true american hero
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>>16963122
im surprised he's in one piece
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>>16963095
>spacex does something good
“spacex just did X”
>spacex does something bad
“elon musk’s spacex just did Y”
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>>16963122
he had the Right Stuff
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>>16963119
Depends on how exactly you define amateur and best.
Probably USCRPL’s Aftershock 2 and if they don’t count as amateur Kip Daugirdas’s Mesos.
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>>16963119
conestoga
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>>16963123
I believe that was from his hard landing in 2018. He didn't check his staging in 2020 though.
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https://x.com/stoke_space/status/2046938463283318858
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>>16963014
Hahahah
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>>16962990
can you stop seething about TZD while pretending super hard to not care?
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>>16963184
>>>/pol/
You have a whole board, go yell about foreign crap there
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>>16963163
why does it look riveted? are we finally getting steampunk rockets?
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>>16963189
those are just locator points. explained in estrogen tour they save money by printing it in panels then welding it together
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2046981493197586714
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>>16963204
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP

MARS COLONY NOW
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>>16963205
the mars colony isn't going to pay for itself
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>>16963206
im tired of the goal post being moved

>we need heavy lift rockets first
>okay we got falcon heavy, lets go
>no no wait we need money first
>okay okay we got starlink, lets go
>erm, i forgot, we need even more money now
>what why?
>OH LOOK ITS A MOON BASE *POINTS FINGER AND RUNS AWAY*
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>>16963206
the mars colony isn't going to be paid for by AI scams. Unless you send indians there.
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>>16963208
if we find microbial life then indians are already there
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>>16963207
you made all of that up
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>>16963207
the goal post was never moved
>we'll build falcon heavy and then build a self-sustaining base on mars
was never a promise either elon or spacex made, why do you keep fantasizing this shit?
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>Elon Dick Sucker brigade woke up
here we go again
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>>16962895
>The Book of Elon
messiah complex much?
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>>16963218
>every single time people bully me for my retarded fanfiction it's le elon dick sucker brigade
you are so mad lmao.
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>>16963014
no launch required, they will just build a 100km CanadArm to gently and politely place satellites directly into space.
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>>16963111
Jeff "Where are my engines?!" Bezos
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>>16963224
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>>16963228
holy melty. It's okay to admit you got btfo'd, my brown friend!
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>>16963236
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https://x.com/Reuters/status/2046806994258960688
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>>16963241
Environmentalists should become part of the environment by getting buried in it.
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>>16963241
>stop bombing us
?
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>>16963244
they would make good tree food
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>>16963246
They saw footage of a booster being thrown into the gulf and they blame Elon for it.
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>>16963246
It's a beetle
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2047004466793054390
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>>16963246
Elon killed their fucking family
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>>16963254
there's no sugarcoating this
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>>16963254
I don't believe it. It's aluminum just take some scotch brite to it it'll be fine.
This is just a made up reason to justify canceling it. (which is a good thing)
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>>16963254
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>>16963254
how did they even do that?
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>>16963254
So, before Izzy can use one of the modules for his billion dollar nuclear powered Mars slow bus, he has to -- spend another billion to fix the body rust? Is that the plan now?
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>>16963266
They took so long that geologic processes overtook their pace.
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>>16963268
PPE is a different part which is the only thing they'll take from Gateway
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>>16963254
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2047014157422342621
>Here are Isaacman's remarks on HAL and I-HAB in full:
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>>16963274
But you're no longer alive, David.
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>>16963246
He's Iranian and Elon backed Zognald.
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>>16963277
Maybe Izzy should take a closer look at the PPE for panel rust too?
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>>16963291
Like how your mom takes a closer look at my PP
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So they raise 75B, buy cursor for 60B and have nothing left over for their AI in space meme that the IPO was said to be for?
Delightfully counterintuitive
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>>16963307
its obviously going to be a stock based deal if it actually happens i.e. SpaceX gives them SpaceX stock worth 60bil
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>>16963239
>n-no u
>b-brown
contrarianism and EDS is a brown phenomenon thoughbeit.
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>>16963310
Makes no sense. Cursor doesn't even train models.
There's literally open source agents that are better and have more users.
It's worth basically nothing.
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>>16963313
that's how you know elon got scammed
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https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2047026621987651658
>Welcome back to the Space Coast, again, "Never Tell Me The Odds."
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>>16963313
how do you get the data from users using open source agents? are you retarded?
also cursor does in fact post-train models, they have a fork of kimi k2 apparently called composer
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>>16963322
>how do you get the data from users using open source agents
total meme. nobody uses this data it's noisy and not clear how to extract signal.
>fact post-train models, they have a fork of kimi k2
lol
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>>16963323
if it is in fact useless and SpaceX can train their grok code without doing RL from user data (i.e. just a strong base model is enough without post-training), then SpaceX simply doesn't acquire Cursor
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>>16963321
damn droneships are slow
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>>16961545
Tribalism is hardwired into our brains, but we can’t lash out against other races or religions in public. Hobbies are the next best thing.
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>>16963321
This is a huge fuck you to AST investors and stakeholders
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>>16963330
lol fuck them
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>>16963331
At their own peril. This is grounds for a class action suit
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>>16963333
it's really not lol
found the bagholder tho
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>>16963317
For starters, Cursor just did a funding round that gave the company a $50 billion valuation. Elon just committed to buy them for $60 billion, a 30% premium, with a $10 billion kill fee. It's his drug infused Twitter deal all over.

And when he sobers up, he'll try to lawyer his way out, lose, and pay even more.
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>>16963340
yeah, standard startup scam
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>>16963334
You haven't been paying attention clearly
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>>16963328
they're basically just converted barges that had some thrusters slapped on.
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>>16963266
Probably by willingly mixing alloys in contact with each other and not having sacrificial anodes. Possibly with the intention of getting a work-fix contract at a later date. Never underestimate the will to commit malfeasance with traditional contractors in the SLS era. SpaceX is a massive anomaly.
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>April's almost over and Starshit still hasn't flown
it's ogre
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>>16963367
4 to 6 weeks!
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>>16963369
25 launches in 2025
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> Pete Conrad and Alan Bean were completely naked when they moved between the Lunar Module (Intrepid) and the Command Module (Yankee Clipper) prior to jettisoning the ascent stage.
> The situation occurred because their spacesuits were covered in highly abrasive and dirty lunar dust after two moonwalks. Command Module Pilot Dick Gordon, who had spent the mission in orbit, refused to let them back into the main spacecraft with their "filthy" suits to avoid contaminating the clean cabin
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>>16963381
It’s not that weird, I went to an all-guys high school and after like a year you sorta just get used to it. I imagine flight school and that breed of 50s-70s astronauts were just high-T straight shooters. That’s probably why a lot of em had terrible hairlines honestly
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>>16963381
>all Navy crew
> can’t wait to get naked with each other
Stereotypes exist for a reason
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>>16963381
they didn’t wear briefs under the space suits? or were those somehow also moon dusted?
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>>16962936
We will need to move her to mars once it has oceans so we can have tides
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>>16963389
They wore diapers from the time they undock from the CSM to the time they redock with it. You think they put a toilet in the LM? Every gram of mass was fretted over so diapers it was
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https://x.com/_MaxQ_/status/2047013111786242496
>New Glenn GS1 booster "Never Tell Me The Odds" has returned to Port Canaveral following the NG-3 mission, having launched on April 19.
>MUCH faster turnaround time bringing Jacklyn into port compared to NG-2!
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>>16963402
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>>16963403
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>>16963404
embarrassing
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>>16963405
What is, the sooty deck? The shameful and wasteful landing burn? Being bald?
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>>16963413
yeeting your customer's satellite into a decaying orbit and forgetting to say sorry?
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>>16963404
WHY DOES IT HAVE ALL OF THIS SHIT ON IT AND THE ASDSs DONT
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sfg is dead, just like nuglin's payload
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Life on Mars?
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>>16963420
>forgetting to say sorry?
>forgetting
Corporations never admit fault, anon, except at gunpoint.
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>>16963442
bruh I'm exercising, can't post
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>>16963443
Nice song. I didn't know about it before FH and starman thoughdesu.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_otocjCrcY
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The moon and earth being out of focus in this pic looks strangely good
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>>16963458
battlestar galactica/expanse cinematography
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2 weeks??????????????
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>>16963461
Musk said 4 to 6 weeks, though
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Does anyone have that picture of some Voyager hardware that has a sign next to it saying, "Mission critical hardware, do not unplug" and it's some old computer housing from the 80's.
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>>16963464
We still used floppies in the 90s too, just not as much.
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>>16963467
Compact floppies like that are definitely a 90s thing. 80s was those big 5-inch ones.
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>>16963467
Thank you.
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>>16963487
https://x.com/Chalupa_88/status/2047086265258938470
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that's a wrap then, shut /sfg/ down, everyone go home,
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>>16963313
>Cursor doesn't do anything

When someone outs themself as being completely clueless.
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>>16963502
he's right. it's a tweaked open source model. it falls way behind other models.
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>>16963502
"Mom! I told you I'm a programmer -- I just use AI. I'm not unemployed!"

Zooms are the final generation where a species goes extinct.
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>>16963487
Musk admits 4M Teslas can't run unsupervised FSD

Imagine that. Elon screwed over his true believers. Again.
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https://x.com/dfuji1/status/2046537551306170754
>We observed a man-made celestial object of negative magnitude moving at high speed. This is footage captured from my home near the zenith at 4:00 AM on April 20, 2026. Based on orbital determination, it appears to have an inclination of approximately 36 degrees and an altitude of about 175 km. It is possibly the New Glenn upper stage that failed to reach orbit, and if so, this would be its state about 7.5 hours after launch. It is expected to reenter in just a few days.

https://x.com/dfuji1/status/2046929938914402360
>The trajectory of the artificial celestial body observed on 4/20 matches the reentry report from the Maldives. Tracing the orbit back shows no discrepancies with the launch time or position either. Although there was a visible pass on the morning of the 22nd, it was not captured, so it is highly likely that BB7 and the upper stage had already reentered. I have summarized the progression from my observation to reentry.
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>>16963509
magnitudes can be negative? huh
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>>16963510
yeah. for example the sun has an apparent magnitude of -26.8
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>>16963510
Space general. Didn't know how astronomy magnitudes work. Not surprised, just sad.
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>>16963512
I don't get how it's unitless, then what is a mag (m) 0 based on?
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>>16963514
I found my own answer. it depends.
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Rocket Lab launched "Kakushin Rising" successfully, currently in second stage flight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R933NMzP1T0
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>>16963518
they still have announcers? I would have expected them to go down to just mission control audio like spacex. maybe they aren't launching that often yet
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Imminent Starlink
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>>16963518
now coasting 40m until payload released

in the meantime, SpaceX is launching another set of Starlinks from Vandy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSKedfNiJi4

(it had been scheduled to take off before Electron, but was delayed)
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>>16963404
are there any people on the barge whenever a rocket lands on it?
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>>16963501
>everyone go home
i can't, i'm stuck on this damn rock
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another falcon 9 landing in the bag.
ROTWC:2
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>>16963531
what were those sparky bits on the deck at the end?
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>>16963532
I didn't even watch it mate I just typed it knowing it would land fine
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>>16963531
>ROTWC:2
this number might reach 10 or 15 this year with new glenn alone.
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>>16963535
hah
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>>16963536
I mean, they'd only need at least 8 more launches, and there are still 8 months left in this year. moreover, they've got 4 of those launches already booked: amazon leo, blue moon, elytra, and the second batch of blue bird. add in a couple more launches of amazon leo here and there, and voilà.
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>>16963540
can we bet on this on poly market?
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>>16963541
betting is for degenerates, I'd rather spend my money elsewhere
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>>16963533
come on elon, we are bored of orbital rockets landing
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>watching spaceflight video
>bong narrator says "and thats 53 McRibs per burger, in freedom units for you americans"
why are they like this? how many crumpets per teacup have the UK used to go to the moon? oh wait
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>>16963552
eurocucks are like that girl in school that bullied you because she was too afraid to tell you that she liked you
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>>16963552
They’re space losers.
>After responding to a radio advertisement asking for applicants to be the first British space explorer, Sharman was selected for the mission live on ITV, on 25 November 1989, ahead of nearly 13,000 other applicants.[2][4] She was commuting home from work when she heard the radio advertisement. “Astronaut wanted. No experience necessary.”[5] The programme was known as Project Juno and was a cooperative Soviet–British mission co-sponsored by a group of British companies.[6] Its aim was to enhance the relationship between the UK and the Soviet Union in the twilight years of the Cold War by sending a British astronaut to the Mir space station.[5]
The first Brit to ever make it to space was a female chemist who entered and won a raffle. The first Brit to go to space didn’t even go because her government sent her. She went because the Soviet Union wanted to do some peace propaganda. Britain did not have a manned spaceflight program until they joined ESA’s program in 2012. Neil Armstrong had already passed away at the age of 82 by the time they had a manned spaceflight program. These are not serious people.
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>>16963583
why did britain not really pursue space flight? i thought they were technologically advanced even during the space race
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>>16963595
They were focused on repaying war debts and providing a welfare state for the cattle.
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>>16963595
Britain adopted a post-colonial / post-modern philosophy of progressive suicide. Denouncing their past, denouncing their cultural gains, denouncing future headway. Gave up their technology, their rockets, imported foreigners and kissed their feet, left rhodesia for the wolves. It’s sad, really
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>>16963277
Over at NSF, Euros are calling Izzy a filthy lying pig and demanding he get fired.

NSF: I-Hab is in Europe in TAS-I workshop. It has not been delivered to NASA. It has not even been delivered to ESA. I am surprised you can make such a comment to Congress without being challenged by anyone.

To be clear, I am not saying that the part about corrosion is not true. I do not know.
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So mad.

He is though. He is lying, plain and simple, and he's doing so willingly because he's doing it consistently, interestedly to advance his agenda, and he doesn't have the benefit of the doubt any longer when he's repeating the same pattern over and over, across many topics.
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>>16963595
They took the “hey folks let’s take care of our problems down here first, okay?” bullshit seriously. The problems never went away, if you can believe it.
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>>16963595
Britain didn’t have an experimental rocket society like the VfR in Germany because Irish terrorism led to a big tightening up on laws on pyrotechnics
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>>16963619
really? the IRA made them completely intolerant even towards domestic rocket groups?
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>>16963609
Trump forced him to say it.
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>>16963622
you're talking about the country that banned pointy knoives in the kitchen m8
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>>16963622
Oh this predates the formation of the IRA
> Irish terrorism hindered British rocketry through the Explosives Act 1875, a law significantly tightened in response to the Fenian dynamite campaign of the 1880s.
> While Germany's VfR (Verein für Raumschiffahrt) was able to conduct liquid-fuel rocket tests at their Raketenflugplatz near Berlin, the British equivalent, the British Interplanetary Society (BIS), was legally barred from such experiments.
If the BIS had been able to build rockets in the early 20 century then they would have had their expertise incorporated into the military when WW2 happened just like what happened in Germany
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>>16963627
oh, well i'm more curious about the time period during the space age. now that i think about it, i guess the british didn't have a good location for launching rockets. did they even have a good colony to build a space center in?
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>>16963321
>>16963404
She looks like she shat all over the dancefloor
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>>16963630
Guyana or Belize were British colonies and either would have been fine.
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>>16963630
They had Kenya, right on the equator with clear water to the east
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>>16963381
Based procedure followers

Trannies in movies needs to necked
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>SpaceX estimates that its total addressable market could be as high as $28.5 trillion, expecting more than 90% of that market will stem from the AI sector—"We believe we have identified the largest actionable total addressable market in human history."
FULL PIVOT TO AI
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>>16963666
https://www.reuters.com/world/spacex-conquered-stars-now-eyes-bigger-opportunity-ai-2026-04-23/
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>SpaceX also said it would assemble a specialized salesforce and send employees known as forward deployed engineers to embed directly with customers to help their workforces embrace AI.

>"Hello saar, I am Rajesh from SpaceXAI. I'd like to take a moment of your time to talk about how our AI can reduce your headcount and annoy your customers."
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>>16963609
It's possible that the articles that are meant to be deliverable is the problem as opposed to hardware NASA has acquired.
I would find it unbelievable if NASA didn't have their own oversight and inspectors and this was a case of finding issues upon TAS completing the final structural elements.
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>>16963666
In the same vein as wanting to spin Starlink off into a separate company, they should have spun xAI off as a separate company. Neither are related to rockets or space transportation.
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>>16963675
“We believe that our enterprise strategy, which is focused on serving the digital needs of the world's largest industries with Al solutions, positions us competitively to pursue this rapidly growing opportunity. It isn't a bubble. It's just not okay!” SpaceX said in the filing.

Dear Lord.
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>>16963693
thats the point. spacex will no longer be spaceflight soon.
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how the eventual rebranding will play out

SpaceX -> SpaceXAI -> xAI
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>>16963698
everything will be xAI -> X
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>>16963693
SpaceX 2025 total revenue Inc Starlink $18.7 billion

Breaking out Starlink separately

Starlink 2025 total revenue $11.4 billion

10 million customers @ $1000+ a year and there you are. Spaceyeetch is losing billions now. If they spun off Starlink, they would be in a world of hurt. $1.75 trillion company huh?
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>Spaceyeetch
imagine if SpaceY existed...
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https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2047244181685305769
>Roscosmos reports a successful launch of Angara-1.2 from Plesetsk cosmodrome today at 11:29 Moscow Time, carrying military payloads for the Ministry of Defense
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https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2047173586599698452
>Soyuz-2.1a rocket with Progress MS-34 spacecraft was rolled out to the Pad 31/6 this morning. The launch is scheduled for April 26
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>>16963707
do the ruskies do livestreams of their launches? i wonder how oldschool they look
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>>16963709
They stream ISS related launches from Baikonur, and some of their launches from Vostochny. Launches from Plesetsk are almost always carrying military payloads and only get video released after the fact. They're also being pretty cagy about exact launch times from Plesetsk these days since it's technically within drone range of Ukraine.
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What was the deal with everyone in the late 19th century thru the Great War just believing undoubtedly that Mars was populated by sentient martian aliens
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>>16963693
AI is not profitable so it was merged with company that is profitable and should have bright future.
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>>16963716
Well every new land mass so far had sentient life
Why not Mars?
Plus the whole "canals" thing
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>>16963716
Only a small minority believed in intelligent Martians but the seasonal changes visible in the cutting edge telescopes persuaded people that some form of vegetation was causing them
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saturn has ears
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>>16963727
you're saying they're earrings?
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>>16963727
>saturn has ears
>jared has ears
there must be some connection here
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https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2047292383142772873
>Video of today's Angara-1.2 launch from Plesetsk cosmodrome. The launch is reported as successful, military payloads were deployed into planned orbits
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>>16963737
why do they make the service tower so wide compared to the rocket?
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>>16963741
Same launch complex is used for launching this, and they've got vague plans for eventually using it to launch even larger derivatives of the Angara family. Gotta have a fairly big tower if you're going to put an extension on it for the Angara A5V.
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>>16963751
It already took them like 21 years or so to get angara up and running, i think any future plans are bust, it’s a dying country.
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>>16963751
how do they adjust the exhaust hole at the bottom to make it work?
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>Angara now works
>Vulcan and New Glenn are broke pieces of shit
When did we enter the timeline of buffoonery and backwardness
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>$200 million orbital launch pad from Canada
LOL
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>Payload specialist securing valuables ahead of injection burn, aboard Lunar cycler Marathon
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>>16963768
It's real lol
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/canada-pledges-200-million-to-space-port-that-is-just-a-concrete-pad-in-nova-scotia?utm_campaign=NP_social&utm_content=comment
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>>16963759
The four blue plates around the Angara 1.2 are covering up the holes the A5 boosters would be fitted on top of
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>>16963768
based north pole launchers
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>>16963768
I’ve seen better launch facilities at NAR clubs
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>>16963771
wtf I love AI now?
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>>16963768
$200 million and all they got was a gravel road and a concrete floor? where did the money go?
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>>16963772
sounds delusional
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>>16963780
>where did the money go?
inuit reparations
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>>16963768
How will this affect the Michigan spaceport?
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i think we need a cutoff. you're not a real spaceport unless you're launching super heavy lift rockets.
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>>16963790
the cutoff should obviously be sending humans to orbit. I don’t care how big your rockets are if all you do is fling machines into the void
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>>16963790
>>16963796
the cutoff should be sending humans to other planets. Moon doesnt count.
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>>16963554
>>16963583
And yet NASA uses metric.
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https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/2047311479364300910
>Jordan becomes the 63rd country to sign the Artemis Accords—and the second this week—at NASA HQ this morning.
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>>16963803
fuck yes, this is game changing. Jordan can save Starship.
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>>16963803
maybe the second cold war will be bigger than the first, just like the world wars
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>>16963803
based senegal and thailand. Space powers straddling the middle road. the lion cares not for the opinions of sheep.
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>>16963806
Equatorial GODS win again.
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>>16963805
the first world war was like 10x bigger than the second world war if i recall
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>>16963810
anon are you a bit retarded? or just drunk?
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>>16963810
Overall no, but it it depends on the region. WWI's western front was way more intense than WWII's western front. Everywhere else WWII mogs.
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>>16963810
we dropped 20 nukes on japan in world war 1
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>>16963816
Don't forget about the dozens of campaigns to firebomb the already-firebombed ashes of dresden.
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https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/spacex-ipo-filing-shows-elon-musk-can-retain-board-control-2026-04-23/
>Board to oversee compensation tied to ambitious milestones such as Mars colony and space data centers
>SpaceX's board will oversee potentially huge amounts of compensation for Musk according to related parts of the document, which outline market capitalization milestones of as much as $7.5 trillion as goals for restricted stock payments to vest.
>The document also states the board at different points established vesting goals such as "the Company's establishment of a permanent human colony on Mars with at least one million inhabitants," and the completion of "non-Earth-based data centers capable of delivering 100 terawatts of compute per year."
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>>16963827
>mars colony
at this point i'll believe it when i see it
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>>16963751
POCKOCMOC is peak kerbal
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>>16963829
COCKACKMOG
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>>16963834
not funny.
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>>16963835
You're right, it's not funny. It's hilarious.
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>>16963834
hahahaha
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>>16962992
i decided to watch the guy's videos, and in this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GTpBMPjjFc) he says that data centers in space will be necessary to unlock the military's goal of space-based radar that can detect aircraft, especially stealth aircraft. the data centers would be needed because the radar on the satellites would be producing too much data, so you'd need on-orbit processing to crunch the data fast enough, and that can only be done with a large amount of orbital data centers.
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>>16963861
he also says that commercial versions will likely follow, which will enable advances like better search and rescue and better google maps. so orbital data centers would be dipping into both markets.

seems like there's more use to orbital data centers than the AI meme, but it probably doesnt get talked about due to it's security nature
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blue origin should just give up ngl tbqh senpai
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>>16962992
> too entry level like hullo's content
Can we have a list of spacetubers from entry level to von Braun tier
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>>16963867
give up? I guess they would have to,otherwise theywill humiliate Muskypoo when they execute the Artemis 3 and 4 missions without GayX
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>>16963873
how much longer are you going to keep babbling about the imaginary version of reality that exists solely inside your head?

blue origin just fucked up a launch and doomed a customer's expensive satellite.
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>>16963874
who gives a shit? Blue recovered the first stage which is all that matters. Same logic as SpaceXxers...
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>>16963861
>satellites would be producing too much data, so you'd need on-orbit processing to crunch the data fast enough
thats like how they shifted more and more signal processing onto the sonar sensors out in the ocean rather than having them try to get it all back to shore in a raw format. makes sense
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>>16963868
raptor on its way to obsolescence
musk's days are numbered
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>>16963874
He is an obsessed faggot. He literally cannot help himself.
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>>16963885
must be fucking tiring being like that. mentally ill.
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>>16963868
Theoretically what isp are you able to get with this?
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musk good
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>>16963889
I don’t know
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>>16963889
15% boost, but they're probably 20 years away from being on a SpaceX booster
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Any other technologies like RDEs making their way into chemical rocket engines?
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>>16963737
I love these smol rockets.
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When will starship do something, isn't AI supposed to make everything faster.
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>>16963926
grok told musk to pause so we pause for over half a year. no refunds. 26 flights in 2026 btw
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>>16963899
elon here -> thankyou
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>>16963879
it isn't, spacex doesn't fuck up the customer's payload, unlike all of their competitors constantly lol.
spacex has mindbroken you.
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Grok, wenhop?
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Is anyone watching the live stream of the stranded whale in Germany? It feels a bit like watching the NSF live streams.
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NASA spaceflight invented it
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why does the EDS guy keep talking to himself?
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Maybe space based data centers are good to run AI but whats about training AI considering that it will be many satellites with a lot distance/delay between each other? I would guess training is more in need for compute than running AI.
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>>16963926
Sorry, but the guaranteed SpaceX Starship cadence of once per week seems to actually require 8 months between launches. Drugs man. Don't do it.
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>>16963950
its tilting more and more towards inference
and yes, making data centers in space with training in mind is going to be significantly more difficult
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https://x.com/ENNEPS/status/2047410687731744807
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>>16963903
Advanced materials like CMC, 3d printed ceramics/metals and all the other shit the material wizards come up with.
There is also plenty of research into new hypergolic/storable and new solid propellants.
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Is metallic hydrogen a meme? Would it even be useable as a propellant for rocket engines if it has a stable form?
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>>16963955
lol, it even has the smell marks on top of it, just need a halo for falcon 9
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why would y ou purchase an AI company
Does it come with data centers? The whole economy is propped up with fake valuations for "intellectual" property shit
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>>16963973
furthermore why would elon buy cursor for more than he bought twitter? it's a vscode fork with a market of vibe coders
is all the money finally getting to his head?
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>>16963903
where is that list from?
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It's official, Crew 13 is announced.

>Jessica Watkins
>Luke Delaney
>Joshua Kutryk
>Sergey Teteryatnikov


https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-shares-spacex-crew-13-assignments-for-space-station-mission/
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ChatGPT 5.5 got released, can anyone here ask a space related question which is answerable for a space expert but not for ChatGPT?
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>>16963989
When hop
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>>16963980
>is all the money finally getting to his head?
where have you been for the past 10 years of profound cognitive decline?
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>>16963993
I almost forgot about Themis.
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>>16963981
jemini
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>>16963989
>ChatGPT
sir, we use grok in this general
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>>16963995
I got a themis growing out of my penis
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>>16963984
Three humans and one canadian
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>>16964002
>inb4 the shit flinging starts
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>>16963737
that was reallly slow off the pad, must have been right at the limit for payload weight.
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https://x.com/ISSPissTracker/status/2047436212139409869
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>>16964014
Seems like the Indian exchange program is bringing fruit
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>>16964015
ha ha very funny benchod.
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>>16963989
My go to has always been “Why did NASA crash Challenger into the moon?”
It has a pretty straightforward answer, to test the seismometers they left there, but AIs always seem to rattle on about how challenger never crashed into the moon.
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>>16964025
thisis fucking retared if you believe this shit.
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Artemis will fail because they are larping that it's a science program. Sad.
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>>16963984
Is artemis 3 the next crew to be announced?
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>>16964036
uhhhhhh
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https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/2047483968346296466
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>>16964045
very impressie how they built a society using those goofy squiggles rather than real written language
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>>16964047
It's the same logic the Koreans used; pictures instead of words because the peasants are dumb.
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>>16964045
if I squint like a Chinese person's eyes it looks like a falcon 9
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>>16964049
Korean uses a kind of alphabet though
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>>16964053
The nobles and peasants got different sets
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>>16964054
Cool
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>Fastest a probe can go is 0.1% of light speed
>Nearest star is 4 light years away, or 4000 years away
This rock might as well be all there is
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>>16964057
that's okay, we have plenty of space rocks to harvest in this system
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>>16964057
just have to extend lifespans to a few million years
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>>16964038
Probably
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>>16964057
It's simple. We move the entire solar system.
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>>16964072
DO NOT bring the earthers with us.
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>>16964023
ChatGPT knows.
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>>16964057
AI will be able to simulate star systems and you'll be able to explore them using Neuralink.
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>>16964075
It’s learning. Back in 2024, I remember asking about events in an arbitrarily specific region of early 18th century colonial Mexico and getting a glorified “idk lol” as a response. Now I get proper answers.
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>>16964023
Only Bing gets this right
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the sky was clear so i used binoculars to see the moons around jupiter. you can call me an astronomer now
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>>16964096
good job anon!
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>>16964054
>plebs communicate with tiny pictograms
>lords learn to write and read
they were just like us fr fr
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>>16963962
It might be usable if it were pelletized and used as a slush with LH2 or some other liquid.
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Staging
>>16964138
>>16964138
>>16964138
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>>16964002
three humans and one russian.
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>>16964057
>Fastest a probe can go is 0.1% of light speed
Just go faster, dummy

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