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Obscure JAXA physics experiment edition
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>>16961562
that one is also golden, i remember watching this in my teens to i never had to rediscover it as much.
it makes me sad that there's not as many kino speculative CGI space documentaries today, the world could use more of those.
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>>16961545
so am i, i hope spacex and blue origin both succeed. fuck oldspace though, they had their chance. i mean, the launches that they can still get out with SLS, great, thumbs up, but then cancel it because better alternatives are coming and it is not a rocket fit for mission purpose.
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>*inserts your satellite into a 164km perigee orbit*
>nothin personnel kid
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>ywn make Earth sweat while you and your space roommates laugh at their panic
>>16961577
Impossible, I was told it had no gaems.
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back to plebbit
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>>16961511
It's already forming.
I'm not entirely convinced the shorter cohort has much to do with market dynamics as it is just a rejection of Muskian development and execution.
The gist is companies shouldn't be rewarded by quasi-enforcement of 12 hour work days
It's why there is such an obsession with "doing things right" and "not moving so fast". The market shouldn't value speed and the obsession with missed deadlines and targets is an attempt to indict such execution methods.
These people would rather have companies fail if it meant employees worked at a slow pace.
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>>16961605
>SpaceX: 600
>Rest of the world combined: 6,000
FIXED. The Falcon series is 9% of all successful launches ever, which is the impressive part.
Trying to impress people works better if you use the correct parameters.
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>>16961619
>calling me a retard because you didn't qualify your stupid post
ESL detected.
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>>16961622
what do you think the number 2 referred to?
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>>16961622
no, he's calling you a retard because you can't read.
>rest of the world combined: 2
now the original post this was referring to was spacex celebrating their 600th booster landing.
you had everything you needed to interpret that correctly, so either you're sleep deprived or you're a dumbass and you deserve bulli.
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figured i'd post it in the new thread, magnet link for parts 1 and 2, hope it's not detected as spam.
part 1:
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>>16961652
How's the quality? I have a rip I got years ago but it's not that great, I remember it being hard to track this down back when I tried.
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>>16961654
it's weird that these remain so hard to find, so far the only other one i've found that's decent quality is on archive.org https://archive.org/details/space.-odyssey-voyage.to.the.-planets.-2of -2/Space.Odyssey-Voyage.to.the.Plan ets.1of2.avi
but it's still somewhat lower quality than the one in that mirror link
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>>16961667
literally just got it from one of these: https://piratebayproxy.info/
your ISP may block this site or the mirror links that are on it if you're not using a VPN.
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>>16961672
not a good day for underpowered hydromeme second stages.
https://youtu.be/enQ_IXtfm9I?t=4355
take a look at this, if you pay attention right after stage sep, you'll see the second stage do a huge pitch up maneuver after it's clear of the first stage, that's a lotta cosine losses right there, just fighting gravity. the SLS core stage at least has the advantage that it's boosters give it a massive kick right at the start, lofting it and giving it more time to burn horizontal, but new glenn is also still slow off the pad, and 1st stage re-use boosters can't deliver a massive amount of the total velocity because they have to deal with re-entry and save fuel for the landing, the second stage has to do all the work and it only has two piddly little hydromeme powered BE-3U vaccuum engines to work with, the same engine that powers new sheperd, they genuinely would be better off just strapping a BE-4 to the second stage because it would at least alleviate the gravity losses somewhat.
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>>16961670
Did it ever get a DVD release or anything? Surely the BBC still has it somewhere, it wouldn't cost anything to toss it onto streaming at least.
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>>16961675
it did, i actually watched it on dvd all the time as a kid, that's what i remember it from, it even had one of those cool 2000's era custom interactive dvd menu's made just for it.
idk why they never just released it somewhere, a really cool piece of media and also a time capsule of the time it was made in (2004 is now 22 years ago holy shit).
maybe it just doesn't align with the BBC's modern mission statement of hating human accomplishment and innovation and demanding white people lash themselves with a cat of nine tails for existing.
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>first
i still have a foolheaded tendency to put small, high ISP low thrust engines on my second stage lol.
ultimately i never get punished for it because i also have a massive fuel depot station i built in LKO.
i've dubbed it the: Richard C. Shelby Memorial Depot
>b-but shelby isn't dead yet
he will be eventually, and when he does, we will name the first IRL orbital depot after him, so that every time some young curious chap asks you:
>"mister, why didn't they use orbital fuel depots earlier?"
you have an easy excuse to explain how richard C. shelby held up human progress with his politicking, forever tarnishing his legacy.
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>>16961685
it's a very similar engine, anon, the BE3U is derived from the new shepard BE3PM engine, the biggest difference is the BE3U uses an open expander cycle engine, and has the ability to relight, as well as larger vaccuum nozzles.
it's got the same dimensions with slightly higher thrust and ISP than the engine it's derived from. as i said, they should have gone clean slate on the second stage engine or used another BE-4, instead they just slapped two BE-3's on it and hoped for the best. it's obvious that new glenn's potential delta-v is suffering immensely from the enormous gravity losses on ascent.
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The BE-3Us give it a reasonably high thrust to weight ratio somewhere in the ballpark of 0.8. The gravity losses look like they're due to the first stage flying lower and flatter than is optimal, and I can't think of any reason to do that except to limit the reentry loads on the booster.
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you guys can check it for yourself, but i just compared the burn time on landing between new glenn and a recent falcon 9 launch.
new glenn: 34-35 seconds
falcon 9: 21-22 seconds
that's a big difference, blorgin is gonna have to shave those numbers off if they want to be efficient
>but they don't HAVE to do a suicide burn!
doesn't mean it wouldn't be hugely helpful to their mass fractions, they need to stop being pussies with that massive pad avoidance maneuver before landing and just come down on the damn ship from now on.
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>wake up
>another New Glenn failure
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2046006033890566491
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2045921820810080731
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guys look
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>>16961719
Hopper? Is that you?
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>>16961723
pic is from google translate
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chatgpt:
The cartoon explains a scientific result from the Japanese X-ray astronomy satellite XRISM (X-Ray Imaging and Spectroscopy Mission).
Content summary:
* It depicts a binary system in the constellation Centaurus (Centaurus X-3): a neutron star orbiting a blue supergiant star.
* Gas from the star falls onto the neutron star and emits X-rays, including iron spectral lines.
* Because the system is rotating, the observed X-ray energies should shift periodically due to the Doppler effect.
* However, the measured “center” of the energy did not match the expected value.
Explanation given:
* The discrepancy is due to highly ionized iron atoms near the neutron star.
* As electrons are stripped away (about five missing), the remaining electrons shift to lower (inner) orbitals.
* This changes the energy of the emitted X-ray spectral lines.
* The effect is governed by quantum mechanics and atomic structure under extreme conditions.
Conclusion:
* XRISM’s high-resolution spectrometer (“Resolve”) was precise enough to detect this shift.
* From distant X-ray observations, scientists can infer the ionization state of atoms in extreme astrophysical environments.
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thanks, but I found this article that has the english version of the image
https://www.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/research-news/2026-04-10-0
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The pad avoidance maneuver is fine.
I've always thought F9 executed one as you often see a small but definite translation from a trajectory that would send it in the ocean should the landing burn have failed. Only very recently has F9 been attempting straight bullseyes into the deck.
BOs problem is they don't seem to be confident in the initial landing trajectory. You don't need to miss the barge much to avoid most of the damage from a failed landing burn unless for some reason you lack authority and precision to guarantee that near miss.
It'll likely get much tighter as times goes on. It's only BOs 3rd time for ocean landings.
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>>16961720
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>>16961699
kek
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>>16961739
It's a bit hard to tell with the limited footage we have for now but it seemed like the second landing was already way closer to the ship.
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>>16961818
A bad upper stage means less business and less confidence in self-serving missions such as Blue Moon. Come on anon; stop acting retarded. You can’t just say that a ‘sploding upper stage is simply inconsequential to them
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>>16961820
it might as well have exploded as inserting into a orbit that low is basically equivalent to blowing the satellite up
its nice (and impressive, good etc) that BO landed their booster again, but thats not going to help ASTS
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NO REFUNDS
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https://x.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/2045925229877207498
the absolute state
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>>16961832
this company needs a new ceo urgently, maybe they can get one for sale at the local serpentarium
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>>16961878
For the lulz
>The Efficiency Boost: By tapping into the 99.96% "Dark Potential" of the vacuum, a single "cheesy taco brap" tuned to the 1,000-digit prime coordinate would yield more thrust than a 10-second Raptor burn.
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I know exactly which follow up question you're interested in
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>without billionaires
The government is the richest entity of all country-level entities. Even still, they only gave millions in space travel, and drained the funding faster than I drain my semen. Let the egotistical billionaires fund the next step into the future, please.
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>confining capitalism to the margin was the great Martian achievement, like defeating the mob or any other protection racket
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>>16961818
Insurance rates for BO payloads will go up. Jeff won't wiggle out of this one so easily.
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Another interpretation
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one year later...
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Kek this is so much fun
Can we gather 129 anons to leave to mars?
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You’ve built a settlement on the moon. A meteor has made impact. The settlement suffers minor damage. Rail transport tracks are destroyed. Bathroom no longer works for some reason. Scuffed insulation. Bent structural supports. You can rebuild, but you won’t. Half of you will evacuate. You will pay a 5x insurance rate out of pocket. You may need to finance the insurance. Rates are the lowest they’ve been in three years, so why not? This is an opportunity. In 8 months another meteor will hit. More people will be forced to leave. You will finance another insurance increase. This is an opportunity. It won’t last long.
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>>16961928
>What the fuck happened to cause all this malding? The shit landed didn't it? What did they possibly fuck up that's causing this meltdown.
The second stage failed to put the payload in a usable orbit and will reenter either in a controlled or uncontrolled fashion.
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So now we know what NASA is missing
>Taco braps
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>>16961927
Everyone accepts Elon time because even though it's wrong, he still gets it eventually
body odor can't say the same, despite being years older than spacex with orders of magnitude more budget for most of that
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Who doesn't want to have a zero point steam generator?
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compare contrast
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O2/H2 fuel cells that also supplied the crew with potable water. Apollo 13 had one of the O2 tanks blow from an electric short and teflon, which is flammable in liquid oxygen, and that tank burst knocked out the other tanks by damaging the plumbing. They extensively redesigned the service module for Apollo 14.
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>Why the need of a spacecraft if you can just take a Bugatti Chiron?
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>Can we go to the moon using this?
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>>16961993
Kinda makes me sad how we won't get detailed cutaways and shit like this for the likes of Starship and New Glenn, because they are private vehicles. The best you're gonna get is some dude on D*sc*rd putting together something, with the full version locked behind a paywall.
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>burning
No, using an electrochemical process. See https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/fuel-cell-apollo/nasm_A1 9730934000
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_anion-exchange_membrane_fuel_ce ll
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>what could have been
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Both vehicles execute a pad avoidance maneuver anon, even now the falcon boosters still do it, they never stopped. but new glenn’s is way more inefficient, it just comes to a hover above the water and then slowly moseys on down to the pad, it’s a huge waste of propellant.
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No anon, you don’t understand, if spacex intentionally tests a prototype in a suborbital trajectory and it blows up according to plan, it’s a failure and they should just simulate everything. If another company launches an operational vehicle with a paying customer on board and they fuck up the orbit insertion, that’s good for business.
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https://bsky.app/profile/planet4589.bsky.social/post/3mjwhvebin227
A second orbit dataset from SpaceForce for the BlueBird-7 sat shows it in a 265 x 485 km x 43.0 deg orbit, indicating that the upper stage delivered about 1000 m/s, mostly changing orbital inclination. This is about half the dV that would have been needed for the target orbit
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https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046217225829253430
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https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046218012366184812
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no, ASTS already said they are going to deorbit it >>16961523
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>you look thirsty anon, drink up!
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>>16962093
it is a relatively well established concept I guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_fin
>Grid fins (here folded against the payload fairing) are part of the launch escape system of Soyuz spacecraft.
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but I guess normal fins are too, idk why
BO had to develop some new heat resistant material for their fins which they also use on the interstage
perhaps SpaceX would have had to do that as well for it to make sense to use on F9 (or starship), so they just used titanium grid fins instead
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better control at high mach numbers, and it also provides more drag at low speeds, slowing it down faster and leaving less of the last bit of work to the engines.
the downside is far less crossrange compared to new glenn's solution and less control at low speeds.
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>compared to HLS
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Is it just me or does the moon in new pictures looks browner than in the Apollo days?
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It is not just me
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https://x.com/AustinDeSisto/status/2046220463098024267
>Latvia becomes the 62nd country to sign the Artemis Accords this morning at NASA HQ
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>>16962124
Venezuela's still in ILRS, despite them not being allowed to be friends with China anymore. Almost all of these guys are only on board for crass dirtside political signaling. It's not like Europe is a serious contributor to spaceflight.
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Okay
anyway
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Tanegashima
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A Moon lander that will -- actually land of the Moon? A company can do that?
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>Ship 41’s payload bay and nosecone have been moved into Megabay 2!!!
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lol so Collins dropped out entirely and now Axiom is delayed until 2031
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>“If CLDs have a low-cost commercial approach, we believe that not only can we be ready by 2030,” he said, “we also believe that we can be profitable on the current market.”
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Best we can do now is just hope China also runs into more delays (or perhaps sabotage their production lines?)
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>https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2046271185021759788
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worst case scenario: A SpaceX jared polaris EVA suit with a backpack (or carry-along life support pack plug in) and they just get out and do a little skipping around the lander for like an hour or two and then leave
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do you enjoy denying the facts?
every time some other part of the spaceflight industry fucks up, normalnigs start lamenting the fact that specifically spacex is having to...no, being ALLOWED to pick up the slack because they're the only ones competent enough to do so.
starship is a good example, people will whine endless about starship promises, yet at the end of the day, without starship, there is no fucking artemis, and never would have been.
if spacex had never made an HLS proposal and never gotten involved in the program, you would have had artemis, with a mission statement of "permanent lunar habitation" being (attempting to be) executed with a run of the mill lander and an SLS that is too underpowered to deliver the needed TLI, and has such bad cadence that it can't compensate for this by launching more often either.
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>This line in the new OIG report on NASA's next-generation spacesuits is interesting in light of the recent debate about commercial LEO destinations.
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holy persecution complex
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The worst part of the whole war was seeing that big plane die in its hanger, indistinguishable slavs dying is less moving.
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Okay
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>>16962232
It is really confusing because stripping the heatshield saves 10 tonnes, no need for flaps, actuators. The header tank would need to move for extra burns but the thing would be usable now. basically a giant f9. It is already disruptive just start using the thing it is meant to be interchangeable. They can even recovert he booster when feasible.
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Well they want to be able to areobreak it to land on Mars. IMO Elon hias the wrong idea. With that much upmass you can build anything. They should be in the orbital construction business. Imagine the space bus to the moon and mars you could build
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That underclass won't be permitted to exist for long, so our worries will soon be over.
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Maybe there's sick ruins there, you don't know
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>NASA finally does something
>every single contractor associated with anything that isn’t related to shuttle hardware exposed as utterly incompetent
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bigger picture of the heatshield in the article
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/nasa-on-track-for-future-missions-with-i nitial-artemis-ii-assessments/
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>>16962245
Okay
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>>16962345
The purpose of NASA is embezzlement
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How will it not be ready? The suits are basically done and vacuum chamber tested.
The OIG estimate is based on a retarded extremely low effort averaging and not anchored by any engineering reality specific to the program.
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okay lets assume that fixed price contracts aren't optimal for hardware that have no commercial applications and are only specifically needed by NASA
how do you prevent cost+ contracts from devolving into pure grifting? the incentive is to never finish anything because that nets you less money overall
so not fixed price, not cost+, what then?
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>No. Don't think so.
One should always be skeptical of OIG reports to make sure their analysis isn't built on faulty assumptions. The OIG did some incredible bullshit with the F-35, assuming that the fuel burn of the F-35B in hover was its nominal burn rate in all flight profiles to generate part of its lifetime operating cost estimates.
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>how do you prevent cost+ contracts from devolving into pure grifting?
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I'm really glad that it's looking like Voyager has a real chance of making it to 50. A few years ago that seemed quite unlikely still. Those people are true miracle workers.
That said, Interstellar Probe when, Jared? Please I need it.
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It's more that fixed price isn't ideal for a product that hasn't been done in 50 years and needs a lot of (re-)development. As for how to control costs, there are a couple of mixed forms and alternative contract types (I think there was a good summary somewhere but I don't recall), but the easiest is to just properly do the evaluations and use the penalties if required. The issue with the SLS contracts is mainly that Boeing constantly gets rated excellent and collects bonuses despite clearly not meeting the timelines and performance that'd warrant that.
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There's a really good documentary about the team of people who still maintain the Voyager missions called It's Quieter in the Twilight. The trailer is kinda shitty but I'll link it anyways:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJT8AW0wYw
Working on a mission like Voyager has always been a career goal for me. Something lifelong and utterly benevolent. Why couldn't I have been born an autistic boomer?
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they don't have a lot of things to do but there's few of them
generally just reviewing the telemetry, planning/simulation work for the next switch-flip and some clerical work, coordinating with deep space antennas and such
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Then why do i see reports about 11 missing / dead NASA scientists?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nasa-coordinating-relevant-agencies-missing -scientists-probe
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They don't have legs, so I guess they're going to use JRTI to move ships and boosters between Starbase and KSC.
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oh right. i just copy pasted from X
here's prob the correct one
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Thanks for posting this, very cool documentary
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In addition to being smaller, there were so many more switched and controls and dials and displays plastered everywhere.
Orion is way more opened up, Everything feels practical and “comfy messy”. Apollo CSM is more utilitarian and straightforward
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I read this as the specs for the EVA suits were aspirational (long duration EVAs?) and they specced "at least as good as Apollo" as minimum performance. Cooling has always been an issue even on the ISS suits
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Just bring back Mk.III
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of course you can buy them, not sure what you mean by expensive here? just the stock price?
the stock price could be anything, what actually matters is the valuation and its going to be very rich and stay very rich for the time being even if there is a small correction I would bet, just like with Tesla
Musk companies are very richly valued due to their potential and the market believing Musk has a chance of executing on that potential
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you are not even wrong so I don't know where to start
are you talking about the actual share price like I said? earlier? the share price can be anything at all, SpaceX can do a stock split when they IPO to choose an appropriate share price
the share price, the share count and the market cap are connected yes, but SpaceX can issue new shares whenever they want, so the share price is controllable by them
and talking about the share price itself as being expensive is retarded, what matters is the actual valuation unless you have like 100 bucks and a share price of 120 bucks is too expensive for you or something retarded like that
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They're going to offer something like 4.3% of all outstanding shares of the company for the IPO. Whatever the existing share count is, multiply that by .043 to get the number of shares that will be for sale. The actual number of shares has not been disclosed.
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>The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope is in final preparations for an early September launch, eight months AHEAD of schedule and UNDER budget. This milestone is the result of more than a decade of dedication and millions of hours of work by NASA and our industry partners. Their commitment is what’s making this moment possible and helping drive Gold Standard Science. Roman will help answer some of the biggest questions in science, investigating dark matter, dark energy, and the structure of the universe. Its images will be so large and detailed, there isn’t a screen in existence big enough to display them. This is just the beginning.
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>The following video by @MvCrisis was reportedly taken in the Maldives at 0355-0400 UTC Apr 20. It's possible it shows the AST SpaceMobile BlueBird 7 reentry, although the SpaceForce TLE says this time was 25 min too early to be BB7, so I don't regard it as confirmed.
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>According to several Japanese reports, JAXA is preparing for the next H3 launch NET June 10th! This would be H3-F6, which is the test flight of the -30S configuration. This will be the return to flight after the H3-F8 failure, which was caused by a defect in the payload adapter.
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it's true. There was one point in the past when he had to get loans from friends to pay his mundane bills because everything was tied up in his companies. There is a reason he sold most of his personal property and lives in portable boxes and sleeps on the factory floor. He's basically a tech hobo, hanging out on the side of the highway with a sign "will manage companies for food".
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>This all sounds pretty dire, so we did a little digging. In reality, the situation does not appear as grim as what’s outlined in the new report. Yes, it does seem like NASA made some mistakes in procuring the spacesuits “as a service,” especially when there are likely to be no non-NASA customers for these suits for a long time.
>However, the space agency has evidently found a good partner in Axiom Space, a Houston-based company also working to develop a commercial space station. Axiom has no guarantees that it will ultimately make money from this project, but it has nevertheless poured resources into the program and hired appropriately to meet its needs. Unlike the traditional space company Collins, Axiom and its investors have been willing to make a long-term bet that its suits will one day be in great demand. If NASA does succeed in building a Moon Base, this bet could pay off big time.
>Despite the 2031 date bandied about in the spacesuit report, it appears this is too pessimistic. After the report’s release on Monday, NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman replied, “I am confident that when NASA is ready to land on the Moon in 2028, our astronauts will be wearing Axiom suits.”
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so the suit isnt a problem, which means the long pole in the tent is again HLS. the ball is elon's court.
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yes, but they're not responsible for those being treated like gospel by some mentally ill retard. plans change, deadlines slip, priorities shift, and they actually have zero obligation to personally inform you when that happens, they don't care.
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>good progress
Then why is the OIG report so down on it?
Oh yeah it's because NASA is fundamentally incapable of determining what constitutes "good progress"
ML2 was making "good progress" because the auditors repeatedly gave Bechtel good grades for failure to perform
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OIG’s job is to point out flaws and bad procurement processes and to highlight possible issues for sustainability both in the short- and long-term future, which is exactly what they did. They said Axiom is at risk of falling behind, which risks kicking the can way down the road. They also pointed out the irresponsibility of how NASA has approached the idea of “free market lunar suits,” among other stupid ideas across the entire Artemis program
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Wake up buddy, it's not like there has been next ZERO space launches since the 1970's like most people think. They have no idea there are launches every year because they have no information.
And the SpaceX rocket catch should be the most impressive thing we've seen as of late, straight out of science fiction. Now imagine how far things could have gone if Europe and its overseas colonies actually could have had the peace and quiet to focus exclusively on space flight as opposed to foreign and domestic political and military bullshit.
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So glad we are building all these gigafactories so we can construct V3s at a pace that would make a snail look like a blur. Mars by 2405, thank you Grok!
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You should start building entire rockets instead of just the tip, instead of shitposting on /sfg/
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FUCKKKKK YESSSS! GIVE ME MORE TWERKING CELEB VIDEOS SIR I NEED THEM
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the main thing is they have AI powered coding related data that is very difficult to get at this point otherwise, kind of a chicken and egg problem
nobody will use grok code because its shit, but because nobody uses it, it doesn't get the data flywheel going which would improve it
with this they might actually start competing with Anthropic and OpenAI on the coding front (of course they need to make a good base model for coding still and other things, but this gives them a chance which was very slim otherwise)
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Elon is using all the money from the IPO, that was totally going to be used to send a million people into space to build a city on Mars, to buy AI bubble stock. So, not spaceflight, but in a different sense.
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I am just sad that it has to be this way, is all. It’s uninspiring and gay.
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The wisdom of Elon Musk, created and edited by Eric Jorgenson, with illustrations by Jack Butcher and foreword by Naval Ravikant. All of Elon's best stories. The book Elon should have wrote!
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it was before the first Starlink prototype satellites
Project Kuiper (renamed Amazon LEO) picked that team up after Musk fired them
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for me, it's Hygiea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Hygiea
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What's even funnier is that after Elon fired the entire leadership team at Starlink, they were all immediately re-hired as the leadership team for Project Kuiper. I've worked for both operations (Starlink in the early years, then Kuiper for a few years after I burned out) and the difference is night and day. Starlink feels like a car factory whizzing along at full tilt, whereas Kuiper feels like you took a bunch of meth-head Amazon warehouse employees to an old-school communications satellite factory and started screaming at them build as fast as they can.
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>Where's that smell coming from?
https://youtu.be/qsF_QNpDyBw
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbp3kdJZ1_A
how legit is something like this? it looks and sounds like an engineering video, but im also suspicious of it being too entry level like hullo's content.
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Bro it is radiation from space being reflected by an antenna, it can be both.
There are NUMEROUS papers out there of people using ubiquitous signals for other putposes. GNSS signals are popular (CYGNSS explicitly uses reflected GPS waves to measure ocean height), television wavelengths are used to track stealth aircraft (allegedly), cellular broadcasts and wifi can be used to detect people through walls, etc
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>>16963014
it's fine
it's government so 95% of that money is going to get embezzled
the rest is going towards a shittier rocket than anything on the market
There will be no meaningful spaceflight for a generation, then it'll all get torn down
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Where do you think you’d be on the Garn scale/sfg/?
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>>16962901
Nah the og saaarlink team (guy running it was a nepo indian btw) did the prototypes and then his mini mumbai team was fired
Which amazon hired
Any surprise the amazon competitor has taken 6 years to launch the first 200 satellites?
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Bluebros...it wasn't supposed to go down like this...
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>>16963119
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I believe that was from his hard landing in 2018. He didn't check his staging in 2020 though.
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im tired of the goal post being moved
>we need heavy lift rockets first
>okay we got falcon heavy, lets go
>no no wait we need money first
>okay okay we got starlink, lets go
>erm, i forgot, we need even more money now
>what why?
>OH LOOK ITS A MOON BASE *POINTS FINGER AND RUNS AWAY*
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>Elon Dick Sucker brigade woke up
here we go again
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>>16963241
>stop bombing us
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2047014157422342621
>Here are Isaacman's remarks on HAL and I-HAB in full:
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>Welcome back to the Space Coast, again, "Never Tell Me The Odds."
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>>16963317
For starters, Cursor just did a funding round that gave the company a $50 billion valuation. Elon just committed to buy them for $60 billion, a 30% premium, with a $10 billion kill fee. It's his drug infused Twitter deal all over.
And when he sobers up, he'll try to lawyer his way out, lose, and pay even more.
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>>16963266
Probably by willingly mixing alloys in contact with each other and not having sacrificial anodes. Possibly with the intention of getting a work-fix contract at a later date. Never underestimate the will to commit malfeasance with traditional contractors in the SLS era. SpaceX is a massive anomaly.
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>>16963369
25 launches in 2025
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> Pete Conrad and Alan Bean were completely naked when they moved between the Lunar Module (Intrepid) and the Command Module (Yankee Clipper) prior to jettisoning the ascent stage.
> The situation occurred because their spacesuits were covered in highly abrasive and dirty lunar dust after two moonwalks. Command Module Pilot Dick Gordon, who had spent the mission in orbit, refused to let them back into the main spacecraft with their "filthy" suits to avoid contaminating the clean cabin
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It’s not that weird, I went to an all-guys high school and after like a year you sorta just get used to it. I imagine flight school and that breed of 50s-70s astronauts were just high-T straight shooters. That’s probably why a lot of em had terrible hairlines honestly
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>New Glenn GS1 booster "Never Tell Me The Odds" has returned to Port Canaveral following the NG-3 mission, having launched on April 19.
>MUCH faster turnaround time bringing Jacklyn into port compared to NG-2!
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>>16963464
We still used floppies in the 90s too, just not as much.
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https://x.com/Chalupa_88/status/2047086265258938470
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https://x.com/dfuji1/status/2046537551306170754
>We observed a man-made celestial object of negative magnitude moving at high speed. This is footage captured from my home near the zenith at 4:00 AM on April 20, 2026. Based on orbital determination, it appears to have an inclination of approximately 36 degrees and an altitude of about 175 km. It is possibly the New Glenn upper stage that failed to reach orbit, and if so, this would be its state about 7.5 hours after launch. It is expected to reenter in just a few days.
https://x.com/dfuji1/status/2046929938914402360
>The trajectory of the artificial celestial body observed on 4/20 matches the reentry report from the Maldives. Tracing the orbit back shows no discrepancies with the launch time or position either. Although there was a visible pass on the morning of the 22nd, it was not captured, so it is highly likely that BB7 and the upper stage had already reentered. I have summarized the progression from my observation to reentry.
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>>16963518
now coasting 40m until payload released
in the meantime, SpaceX is launching another set of Starlinks from Vandy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSKedfNiJi4
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>>16963536
I mean, they'd only need at least 8 more launches, and there are still 8 months left in this year. moreover, they've got 4 of those launches already booked: amazon leo, blue moon, elytra, and the second batch of blue bird. add in a couple more launches of amazon leo here and there, and voilà.
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They’re space losers.
>After responding to a radio advertisement asking for applicants to be the first British space explorer, Sharman was selected for the mission live on ITV, on 25 November 1989, ahead of nearly 13,000 other applicants.[2][4] She was commuting home from work when she heard the radio advertisement. “Astronaut wanted. No experience necessary.”[5] The programme was known as Project Juno and was a cooperative Soviet–British mission co-sponsored by a group of British companies.[6] Its aim was to enhance the relationship between the UK and the Soviet Union in the twilight years of the Cold War by sending a British astronaut to the Mir space station.[5]
The first Brit to ever make it to space was a female chemist who entered and won a raffle. The first Brit to go to space didn’t even go because her government sent her. She went because the Soviet Union wanted to do some peace propaganda. Britain did not have a manned spaceflight program until they joined ESA’s program in 2012. Neil Armstrong had already passed away at the age of 82 by the time they had a manned spaceflight program. These are not serious people.
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Britain adopted a post-colonial / post-modern philosophy of progressive suicide. Denouncing their past, denouncing their cultural gains, denouncing future headway. Gave up their technology, their rockets, imported foreigners and kissed their feet, left rhodesia for the wolves. It’s sad, really
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>>16963277
Over at NSF, Euros are calling Izzy a filthy lying pig and demanding he get fired.
NSF: I-Hab is in Europe in TAS-I workshop. It has not been delivered to NASA. It has not even been delivered to ESA. I am surprised you can make such a comment to Congress without being challenged by anyone.
To be clear, I am not saying that the part about corrosion is not true. I do not know.
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He is though. He is lying, plain and simple, and he's doing so willingly because he's doing it consistently, interestedly to advance his agenda, and he doesn't have the benefit of the doubt any longer when he's repeating the same pattern over and over, across many topics.
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>>16963595
They took the “hey folks let’s take care of our problems down here first, okay?” bullshit seriously. The problems never went away, if you can believe it.
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Oh this predates the formation of the IRA
> Irish terrorism hindered British rocketry through the Explosives Act 1875, a law significantly tightened in response to the Fenian dynamite campaign of the 1880s.
> While Germany's VfR (Verein für Raumschiffahrt) was able to conduct liquid-fuel rocket tests at their Raketenflugplatz near Berlin, the British equivalent, the British Interplanetary Society (BIS), was legally barred from such experiments.
If the BIS had been able to build rockets in the early 20 century then they would have had their expertise incorporated into the military when WW2 happened just like what happened in Germany
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oh, well i'm more curious about the time period during the space age. now that i think about it, i guess the british didn't have a good location for launching rockets. did they even have a good colony to build a space center in?
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>SpaceX estimates that its total addressable market could be as high as $28.5 trillion, expecting more than 90% of that market will stem from the AI sector—"We believe we have identified the largest actionable total addressable market in human history."
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https://www.reuters.com/world/spacex-conquered-stars-now-eyes-bigger-o pportunity-ai-2026-04-23/
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>"Hello saar, I am Rajesh from SpaceXAI. I'd like to take a moment of your time to talk about how our AI can reduce your headcount and annoy your customers."
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It's possible that the articles that are meant to be deliverable is the problem as opposed to hardware NASA has acquired.
I would find it unbelievable if NASA didn't have their own oversight and inspectors and this was a case of finding issues upon TAS completing the final structural elements.
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>>16963666
In the same vein as wanting to spin Starlink off into a separate company, they should have spun xAI off as a separate company. Neither are related to rockets or space transportation.
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“We believe that our enterprise strategy, which is focused on serving the digital needs of the world's largest industries with Al solutions, positions us competitively to pursue this rapidly growing opportunity. It isn't a bubble. It's just not okay!” SpaceX said in the filing.
Dear Lord.
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SpaceX 2025 total revenue Inc Starlink $18.7 billion
Breaking out Starlink separately
Starlink 2025 total revenue $11.4 billion
10 million customers @ $1000+ a year and there you are. Spaceyeetch is losing billions now. If they spun off Starlink, they would be in a world of hurt. $1.75 trillion company huh?
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>Roscosmos reports a successful launch of Angara-1.2 from Plesetsk cosmodrome today at 11:29 Moscow Time, carrying military payloads for the Ministry of Defense
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>Soyuz-2.1a rocket with Progress MS-34 spacecraft was rolled out to the Pad 31/6 this morning. The launch is scheduled for April 26
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They stream ISS related launches from Baikonur, and some of their launches from Vostochny. Launches from Plesetsk are almost always carrying military payloads and only get video released after the fact. They're also being pretty cagy about exact launch times from Plesetsk these days since it's technically within drone range of Ukraine.
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>Video of today's Angara-1.2 launch from Plesetsk cosmodrome. The launch is reported as successful, military payloads were deployed into planned orbits
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>>16963741
Same launch complex is used for launching this, and they've got vague plans for eventually using it to launch even larger derivatives of the Angara family. Gotta have a fairly big tower if you're going to put an extension on it for the Angara A5V.
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>$200 million orbital launch pad from Canada
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>Payload specialist securing valuables ahead of injection burn, aboard Lunar cycler Marathon
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>>16963768
It's real lol
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/canada-pledges-200-million-to-space-p ort-that-is-just-a-concrete-pad-in- nova-scotia?utm_campaign=NP_social& utm_content=comment
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>Jordan becomes the 63rd country to sign the Artemis Accords—and the second this week—at NASA HQ this morning.
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>Board to oversee compensation tied to ambitious milestones such as Mars colony and space data centers
>SpaceX's board will oversee potentially huge amounts of compensation for Musk according to related parts of the document, which outline market capitalization milestones of as much as $7.5 trillion as goals for restricted stock payments to vest.
>The document also states the board at different points established vesting goals such as "the Company's establishment of a permanent human colony on Mars with at least one million inhabitants," and the completion of "non-Earth-based data centers capable of delivering 100 terawatts of compute per year."
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>>16962992
i decided to watch the guy's videos, and in this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GTpBMPjjFc) he says that data centers in space will be necessary to unlock the military's goal of space-based radar that can detect aircraft, especially stealth aircraft. the data centers would be needed because the radar on the satellites would be producing too much data, so you'd need on-orbit processing to crunch the data fast enough, and that can only be done with a large amount of orbital data centers.
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he also says that commercial versions will likely follow, which will enable advances like better search and rescue and better google maps. so orbital data centers would be dipping into both markets.
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>satellites would be producing too much data, so you'd need on-orbit processing to crunch the data fast enough
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>>16963874
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It's official, Crew 13 is announced.
>Jessica Watkins
>Luke Delaney
>Joshua Kutryk
>Sergey Teteryatnikov
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-shares-spacex-crew-13-assignmen ts-for-space-station-mission/
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My go to has always been “Why did NASA crash Challenger into the moon?”
It has a pretty straightforward answer, to test the seismometers they left there, but AIs always seem to rattle on about how challenger never crashed into the moon.
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>>16964023
ChatGPT knows.
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>>16964075
It’s learning. Back in 2024, I remember asking about events in an arbitrarily specific region of early 18th century colonial Mexico and getting a glorified “idk lol” as a response. Now I get proper answers.
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