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>"GUYS WE GOTTA GET THE GOD EQUATION AND THE GRAND UNIFIED THEORY!!!!"
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It's existed since the 1800s, and it's fucking beautiful. And some may say, "What's the specific action needed for GUT, though?" My answer is who gives a fuck? You asked for the equation that explains everything, here it is. The action is minimized and that's why all the shit that has ever happened and will ever happen, happens. The end. I'd like one Nobel Prize please.
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>>16961539
There is a huge misconception in mathematical physics but that's not really a continuous integral. Reason is that when you expand L in its Taylor series and group the coefficients together to the corresponding terms (linear, quadratic, etc.), you don't need to integrate (yet). One can use the power rule to find the conditions when the first, second, etc. variations vanish and you only integrate at the end step to make the total derivatives vanish but these are actually discrete (telescoping) sums. So the integral sign only appears to get rid of the boundaries, we don't care what the integral of L really is or if it even exists.
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>>16961165
Very cool. What's your Lagrangian?
>>16963436
That's not a "huge misconception", but rather a technicality that any mathematical physicist could explain to you (if they cared enough, which they probably wouldn't).
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>>16963472
So what? It's not important. You can convert between an integral and finite "realistic" versions easily under reasonable assumptions. It's not a misconception but rather a standard and well-understood formalism. Calling it a "misconception" is pedantic and idiotic.
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>>16963475
>You can convert between an integral and finite "realistic" versions easily under reasonable assumptions.
You're the pedantic one since introducing the integral means adding an entire new layer of complexity that deals with domain, range, convergence, etc. for something that's ultimately a problem of algebra. It is important, because in formal power series you can solve for what are otherwise divergent Lagrangians. You're a noob
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>>16963482
You can't do shit without the integral. You're a larper.
>domain, range, convergence, etc
These are not layers of complexity. They are simple mathematical concepts that should not be a problem for anyone studying physics at this level. If they are you need to go back and do some more calculus.
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