>>16990684
If you did have another system with the *exact* same components and configuration, you would be alive, unless you already don't consider yourself alive?

>>16990684
>If we arrange another system with the exact same components and configuration, we will not be alive
retard

consciousness is just memory, your cells construct a memory map of the bioelectric signals that they receive when interacting with other objects, using these it creates a mirror image inside your head based on information it remembers and relates to other information, in a sense there is a simulation running in your head at all times, creating a virtual representation of the objects themselves in three dimensional space
>you were just a really advanced camera all along

So if somehow if I replicate my entire memory and put it inside that system, would it be me?

>>16990684
If you want spiritual one then here it is.
Consciousness is a fraction of Source(God) it self. God isn't person nor a being on a cloud like we like to imagine. It simply is it refracts in everything. We are consciousness it self a fraction of that being. It's not separable whenever you are being alive or dead it doesn't matter it still exist simply you closing your eyes and sleeping it doesn't mean it goes away only problem is that you don't remember anything maybe small amount as a dream.

Body isn't the only layer we have, there is also spirit and spirit belongs to ghost. Ghost isn't unit you own or have you are part of it as a system something like connected hive mind. There is Human ghost, Animal and Insectoid ghosts but they only exists as entities that are feeding upon experiences and then are shared between spirits connected to it which can later come to you in dream or daydreaming.

>>16990684
Well, consciousness is the act of being conscious. Its an action. Observation awareness is the common sense understanding of awareness. The ability to observe and recount that observation. When you get knocked out, you lose that consciousness as you have no ability to recount the event after losing consciousness. Same thing with general sleep. But also excluding dreams.

And through the recounting of our observations, we can understand all things in life. All things possible to us are through this consciousness process.

Then there is also the more esoteric claim that consciousness exist beyond the body due to the nature of how consciousness becomes the "filter" for knowing everything, the very notion of knowing others give a sense that we do not need the knowledge of others, when the primary axiom is just the process of knowing. Which many people say, is "The Knower" (the soul, the selfhood, the god). Thus discarding the world/physical body/universe, infavor of this Knower that is independent existence.

However the key confusion for this claim is that the consciousness is always a process and never a separate thing by itself. And thus the very idea of a separate self or soul or "the Knower", outside of the process of the object that is being reported by the process of conscious activity, is not sustainable. The foundational axiom isn't "the consciousness" its the process of consciousness with relation to the observation. We can recant what the object is, but never what the "knower" is. There are mistakes made in identifying this "knower" as "memories" or as the body itself or as the name of the person, or even the relationship the person has, or the combination of it or some even claim to be ghosts inhabiting bodies that can move through one body to another, but these dont account for "the knower" that sits outside of the observation. Those are just mislabelings used as evidence of this separate entity that which sits at the axiomatic stage

>>16990684
The basic sensation of being a human. Might as well ask a bird of prey "what is 'swoop down and eat rat?'"
However, philosophers have mortgages so its "a truly incomprehensible mystery!"

>>16990684
You're asking the question incorrectly, because you're trying to figure out why you have a point of view centered in the body you're in and not in another one.

Its like the Star Trek transporter problem, where the transporter teleports people by making exact clones and destroying the original. It wouldn't actually transfer the "pilot" consciousness into the new form.

>>16990684
consciousness as far as the external physical world is concerned does not exist. All observations you can ever possibly make will never detect this "consciousness".

Also to further clarify something. All meaningful knowledge is based within our shared external reality. Even though I am sure of the existence of my own consciousness, it exists only inside my own mind, its not part of the external shared world.

>>16990684
Any noun with the suffix -ness is a descriptive word, reified. Except to Plato, "it" doesn't exist.

>>16990684
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How were consiousness?

The mind and the i are made of nous and i can claim that the contents to thought are mind and the i and also noeme and noesis as further ideas to content to thoughts and that were how consciousness were like to some degree or something like that

>>16990684
Consciousness is pure awareness that only you can observe within yourself.
Intelligence is the purposeful reactive behavior that can be observed by others.
Intelligence can objectively be observed to decease as a result of rearrangement of physical phenomena.
On the other hand, there is no way to know for sure objectively if consciousness decease after death.

>>16995941
>that only you can observe within yourself
define you in the context? an alien ghost that has taken over the body?

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>>16990684
Consciousness is a property in which a system of matter develops the ability to experience things. Why/how it happens? dunno.

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>>16995942
It is at the very root of knowledge itself: At the beginning things are brought into awareness (color, smell, thoughts..etc.), and then you become aware that something is aware of said things.

Everything else, scientific theories..etc., are merely maps made to approximate these terrains observed by (you). And unlike any of these theories, it is one of the only two things in reality that are proven to exist through direct observation - the terrains (shape, texture, taste, emotion..etc.) and (you), the explorer, that is observing them.

>>16995949
I would say the why is "because it's possible". How is a true stumper though. We may never know the true mechanism, only approximate everything in the body in greater and greater resolution trying to find it. It may be an illusion, the way the inside of a being feels more than a definitive process. It may be possible to have intelligence without consciousness. I'd say LLMs are in that category.

>>16990738
There are selections for a body. And they're not prejudiced to the evolution of people.

>>16990943
It might be a grumpy twin that would kill the spontaneity of neuron firing on memories in your mind.

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>>16990684
logic gates don't have any memory, until they are connected in feedback loops.
Brains are a super complicated version of this