>>16994535
Why didn't you post any of the literature?

the psychos tactics are insane, really like observing them

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>>16994535
Civilization produces subhumans. More news at 6.

>>16994772
>Posts an image of a literal transexual
Why?

"GENDER CONFUSION, SEX CHANGE IDEA FUELED KACZYNSKI’S RAGE, REPORT SAYS

By William Booth September 12, 1998

Convicted Unabomber Theodore J. Kaczynski considered having a sex change operation when he was in his twenties and his confusion over his gender identity filled him with a rage that contributed to his bombing spree, according to documents released today.

The new details about the mental health of Kaczynski, who pleaded guilty in January to a string of terrorist bombings that killed three people and injured 23 others, were part of 47-page forensic evaluation ordered by U.S. District Judge Garland Burrell Jr. during Kaczynski’s January trial. …

In the psychiatric evaluation, Johnson reveals that Kaczynski had persistent and intense sexual fantasies about being a woman."

>>16994535
Autism isn't real...
Neurodivergence is a part of nature, it's part of evolution.
If they wish to stop the increase in autism, then they need to address the change to our environment & what the institutions teach.
E.g.
Am I autistic to say; when I drop a objective it falls to the ground because of gravity.
The institutions will say; gravity isn't real, it's not a force so stuff doesn't fall to the ground when it is dropped because of gravity...

Realism needs to be restored to society, but society has become so convoluted that people are becoming disconnected from it and neuro connections ain't being formed because they're asking people to believe a blatant lie or they've twisted the true so much that it's no longer honest.

Madness was understood in platos time as shown by theia mania, but it modern times the clinical manual has all but rejected, and when you prove the clinical manual wrong it's defence is that it's only a guide... a guide to what exactly? A guide to being mad, a guide that asks you to preform the same action again while you expect a different outcome... you will get that different outcome eventually when you have crushed the spirit of the patient because the clinical manual doesn't recognise the spirit.

>>16994729
Because it doesn't exist

>>16994912
the US would never ever make up things about its enemies

>>16995102
>autism isn't real
>let me tell you all about autism
How can you post this and not immediately hang your head in shame?

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>>16995314
>How can you post this and not immediately hang your head in shame

That's exactly what I was thinking about your post... take amount to think about what your trying to point out, is this no different from when a scientist says
>gravity isn't real
>let me tell you all about gravity

How is me explaining that autism isnt a deficit but a natural divergences, any different from a scientist tell you gravity isnt a force but a bending of spacetime...

I want you to really use what little braincells you have for a second until you have an epiphany and hang your head in shame...

>>16994912
Your desperation is palpable.

Psychos win and do well in certain industries because sometimes you have to make decisions that will potentially kill people or ruin their lives. Like dumping toxic materials into rivers and lakes just to make a few extra pennies. The problem is they can go too far unchecked. Autists are the workers, they get shit done. Psychos do the management and dirty work.Like the medical profession like surgeons to be psychos because they will kill people on the operating table, and they might have to go straight onto the next operation with no emotion.

There is a question as to why a level 1 autist who is educated and successful is given the same diagnosis as an individual with a gene deletion syndrom that guarantees sub 70iq and means they will never live a normal life.

These are clearly two different disorders. One is heritable and the other is rare and spontaneous and usually without a family history.

This has to be the biggest category error in modern psychiatry. Right?

>>16995344
Autists make for bad workers because they switch careers are 2-3x the speed of a non autistic. They do better in the gig economy but they are not designed for decades long meticulous work that came about due to agrarianism.

>>16995379
They do the technical stuff really well. Zuck grew Facebook really fast by getting autists to do all the coding and having them compete against each other for example. Psychos tend to do better in management and letter roles like CEO, CFO etc because they tend to dominate people they see as weaker than them and have no morals. Autists can drill down on technical, boring repetitive tasks better than anyone else on the planet. While psychos just bully people and have no morals. 2 very different skill sets.

>>16995382
Yes they do I thought you meant general repetitive work. They are especially good and technical task switching. What do you think of this? >>16995378

A paper was recently published arguing for the distinction between level 1 and level 2/3 on a genetic and casual basis. I am myself almost finished my own research with a review/hypothesis paper that goes even deeper into the underlining architecture causing autism and other clustering disorders that are not in any way related to 2/3 autism. Trying not to simply use the trope of 'high' and 'low functioning' again which was based in preceived ability.

>>16995388
I am not sure what causes autism but it's mostly social skills what hold autists back. They can do great work and get really technical. But aren't great at socialising. I've worked with high and low functioning autists and high functioning autists can be a bit of a nightmare to work with, and low functioning autists can get really good at something but need a bit of help in other areas of life. Psychology of autism is as important as the genetic side. I am not well read on it but I do not think we will ever find out the root cause of it.

>>16995395
The social skills part is not accurate any more. They get targeted for bullying because they are different not because they lack social skills or act in a negative manner socially. It's simply the difference that hurts them socially. The ones that do fine socially have a more fluid cognition that is highly adaptive and less rigid. There are some physiological markers for the rigidity but this is newly published.

High and low are nonsensical non clinical terms based on your own assessment of the person which is rooted in bias and inaccurate.

>>16995395
>I am not sure what causes autism
People just naturally mutate, thats part of evolution & adaption. The brain is just wired differently hence its called neurodivergence, but a argument can be made that their is no such thing as a neruotypical person, and if everyone was "autistic" then the neruotypical person would be the neurodivergence one...

Man has created an artificial environmental that an increasing amount of humans are struggling to adapt too.
You do not need social skills to survive in this environmental so why would nature bother passing on a useless trait?
People who have problems with traditional communication can be better at non verbal communication, like when 2 people are on the same wave length they don't need to communicate to understand each other.
Some people who are very social completely lack awareness of body language and don't use body language because they relie on verbal communication.

Imagine if you were a pet dog trying to understand your human who has no body language... this is what its like to talk to someone who doesn't understand autism, they think your dumb while they are completely oblivious to their own short comings because not having body language doesn't matter in this world where your expected to talk to everyone using a phone.

>>16995402
>The ones that do fine socially have a more fluid cognition that is highly adaptive and less rigid
So they lack a moral back bone and will engage in bullying people...
I hate how the clinical gaze ignores this sort of stuff.

>>16995404
>People just naturally mutate, thats part of evolution & adaption
Not really. Human evolution increased in speed by 70-1000x depending on which exact model you look at and then it immediately slowed down.
>but a argument can be made that their is no such thing as a neruotypical person, and if everyone was "autistic" then the neruotypical person would be the neurodivergence one...
No it cannot. Level 2/3 autism is defined by specific genetic collapse of HARs snd is not heritable. Level 1 is defined by the exact same architecture but different underlining genetics. Neurotypicals controls do not have these things.

However this is the interesting part, in non clinical neurotypicals their academic success and IQ maps to how many risk variants they carry for autism. The higher IQ sub clinical autist has more genes for level 1 autism and it can be used to predict their academic success. This gives us our 4th or 5th connection between autistic genomic risk variants and intelligence itself.

Therefore the very idea of a homogeneous cognition of humanity is wrong. It isn't that there arent neurotypicals and neurodivergents its that expecting everyone to be exactly the same cognitively is a flawed presupposition.

>>16995379
>Autists make for bad workers because they switch careers are 2-3x the speed of a non autistic
They also tend to be given shit jobs due to their perceived flaws... but clinical gaze just ignores the fact that a non-autistic person would refuse to do the join in the first circumstances, or they would have been social able to ensure they don't get taken advantage of...

>>16995406
No they test higher for morality than neurotypicals. Everything you post is wrong. You are working backwards off a conclusion you have already made, please consult the literature. Now that we have AI that connects directly to academia there is really no excuse for being 20 years behind.

>>16995407
>Not really. Human evolution increased in speed by 70-1000x depending on which exact model you look at and then it immediately slowed down
We just ignoring humanities dark history of eugenics and slavery? Your grandparents lived in an age where giving people lobotomies were a common practice.
>Level 2/3 autism is defined by specific genetic collapse of HARs snd is not heritable. Level 1 is defined by the exact same architecture but different underlining genetics
Well clearly they're not the same thing even tho you've classed as diffrent levels of autism, thats like staying dwarfs, people with stunted growth, and short people all have diffrent levels of being a midget...

>Neurotypicals controls do not have these things. No such thing as a neruotypical person, a neruotypical person would be an exception not the standard. The clinical gaze is focused on one factor instead of the whole kaboodle

>the very idea of a homogeneous cognition of humanity is wrong. It isn't that there arent neurotypicals and neurodivergents its that expecting everyone to be exactly the same cognitively is a flawed presupposition

But the clincal gaze does expect this flaw presumption, anyone who doesn't conformed to their perspective of perfection has a deficit, and those deficits may actually give them a natural edge that society doesn't acknowledge, such as being better at non-verbal communications wont help you get a job but can make you a better lover since they can be better at reading the body.

>>16995418
>We just ignoring humanities dark history of eugenics and slavery? Your grandparents lived in an age where giving people lobotomies were a common practice.
What does this have to do with the original claim of evolution?

>But the clincal gaze does expect this flaw presumption, anyone who doesn't conformed to their perspective of perfection has a deficit
No it does not. It was the clinicians themselves that determined high/low functioning was projecting a deficit which lead to the ordinary person justifying their discrimination based on those terms. To this day the general public still view level 1 as a deficit even when they outperform them

>>16995410
>No they test higher for morality than neurotypicals. Everything you post is wrong
No, what we have here is a Mary's room thought experiment where you are Mary's who has read all about autism, and you are talking to someone who claims to experience "autism".
I can tell you why I wasn't socially adapt and thats because I perceived people differently.

When an autistic person experiences a "dialectic flip"—a shift in perspective or communication style often necessitated by sensory overload, social exhaustion, or the need to navigate neurotypical environments—the clinical gaze often misinterprets these adaptive shifts as evidence of pathology, such as "manipulative" behavior, "uncooperative" attitudes, or a fundamental "lack of self-awareness"

Now are you going to tell me what i saw with help from your clinical manual, or will you listern to me about what I saw...

>>16995420
>What does this have to do with the original claim of evolution
We have partaken in selective breeding for all of human history, what wouldn't this have to do with human evolution is a much more poignant question.

>No it does not
>general public still view level 1 as a deficit even when they outperform them

Pick one, diagnosis without a meaningful intervention is oppression. I have experienced many people using the label of autism to excuse their behaviour or treatment of others...

>>16995422
>I can tell you why I wasn't socially adapt and thats because I perceived people differently
You as an autistic person are presenting to myself whom is also an autistic person an ancetodote about your life and doing so implicitly as leverage against the published and rigorously tested data. There is no reason to continue this conversation with you are you aware this is the science board?

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>>16994535
silent battle that's been waged since the since the Palaeolithic and Neolithic eras

>>16995420
>It was the clinicians themselves that determined high/low functioning was projecting a deficit which lead to the ordinary person justifying their discrimination based on those terms

The problem is that the general public ain't clinicians or aware that the clinical manual is a guide, not a definitive explanation... and some clinicians still don't understand this.

>>16995424
>We have partaken in selective breeding for all of human history, what wouldn't this have to do with human evolution is a much more poignant question
Not accurate. Every single culture in the meso-neo lithic had different sex selections. It was only the linear pottery culture to first set up lengthy paternal lineage. So different cultures and different peoples have selected for many different things from the earliest genomic record we have. Your notion of a universal eugenics system is nonsensical

>I have experienced many people using the label of autism to excuse their behaviour or treatment of others...
Yes some people are immoral. This isn't news.

>>16995427
You specifically targeted clinicians. Explicity. I agree with the rest.

>>16995425
>leverage against the published and rigorously tested data
Are you aware the clinical manual is a guide and not a definitive article about autism?
I do not think the label of autism should exsist and the medical literature should not be available to the general public because of the harm it can cause due to misinterpretation...
I would rather teach people they are star children instead of autistic, should we take this conversation over to /x/ since we are now using faith instead of science to handle autism?

I think we should just teach people that some people are smarter than others instead of dissecting the psyche of a person.

>>16995402

Had to switch devices, so when I saw low functioning autists I mean people who need help keeping a schedule, being driven to work and stuff like that but that can do technical jobs. High functioning autists I mean like Elon, super smart but you can tell he's not normal. It's just they aren't all as successful as Elon and yeah I was gonna write that point (apparently Elon went to some school you learn to bully and dominate but you can still tell he's not your average person). Most work places are full of normies who just look good and are great at socialising so shove all the technical stuff on the autists and best them to promotions and advancements because they can tell well in meetings and give presentations. Autists in the work place can be cool but overall it's kinda difficult to deal with them, they miss social ques, talk out of turn, weird things annoy them. Super smart but can be a bit of hassle when it comes to communication. Socialisation is the most important skill to develop in children and studies show more socialisation = more success in navigating the work work. At a certain level it becomes who you know rather than what you know and being able to play the social game beats technical knowledge pretty much every time. I'm not using clinical terms because I'm not a professional. I did write a lot of stuff you mentioned out but psychology and social dynamics fuck autists over unless they are extreme outliers. Companies tend to promote people they can put in front out other people at a certain level and autists arent social butterflies.

To me low functioning autist = 1 or 2 extremely niche subjects they excel at but need help with other aspects of life

High functioning = can survive like normal people but are just weird to be around.

I'm more of a psychologist than an expert on autism

>>16995431
>You specifically targeted clinicians
A generalisation if you will excuse me.

>>16995432
>I do not think the label of autism should exsist and the medical literature should not be available to the general public because of the harm it can cause due to misinterpretation...
This is what the wealthy land owners said after the Gutenberg press was invented. That the average person was too stupid to be given books and that it was dangerous. Like them I think your ideas are insane.

>>16995429
>Your notion of a universal eugenics system is nonsensical
But selective breeding is a form a eugenics, one where the birth is prevented rather than the offspring being killed.

>Yes some people are immoral. This isn't news.
If this is neurotypical behaviour, I would rather be neurodivergence.

>>16995436
They are trying to change the term to neurodivergant and make it a scale. So we can call them autists and retards any more they are just nuerodivergents. Which is Reddit and far left as fuck.

>>16995436
>That the average person was too stupid to be given books and that it was dangerous. Like them I think your ideas are insane.
An understandable response, I know how oppressive I sound, but the current portrayal has cause me more problems than it has helped me, if you will forgive my opinion but information in the wrong hands is dangerous and we do not properly vet who we give the information too and would prefer a more spiritual approach to the problem.

>>16995443
>far left as fuck
It's actually far right af, the wealthy land owners weren't leftys m8...

>>16995446
>>far left as fuck
>It's actually far right af, the wealthy land owners weren't leftys m8...

What? The far left are pushing the nerurodivergent stuff. The far right just call retards retards.

>>16995457
>What? The far left are pushing the nerurodivergent stuff. The far right just call retards retards
And neither is using the phrase autism?
So what's the point of having the term autism other than using it in a clinical setting away from the general public.

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we lost a battle but the war is not over yet

>>16995108
>cope
>>16995343
>seethe