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>Rick Roll Trove (MOST RECENT AND UPDATED TROVE)
mega.nz/folder/78pF0CYI#Jc2IO8IQVwRDP1Chwr_iGA
>New Trove Link
mega.nz/folder/19kUXC6T#U31scUNwyuVI8cHvX6GIgQ

>Advanced Squad Leader
mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>AK-47 Republic
mediafire.com/folder/6v39gcjode5ln/Insanely_Based_AK-47_Republic_Folder
>Battleground WWII
mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
mediafire.com/file/f8a58xjysyweaz8/Black+Powder+Rulebook.pdf
>Bolt Action
mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Flames of War
mega.nz/folder/lc1SRajQ#QTDXthNFG-sDoYe08bhV9A
>Fleet Series
mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>GMT
mega.nz/#F!D1dHQZCJ!V9pYq0CUc4iCrNiOcBOBtg
>Hail Caesar
mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>The Perfect Captain
perfectcaptain.50megs.com/captain.html
>Phoenix Command RPG
mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Billhooks
mediafire.com/folder/v0fhor14frxsf/Billhooks
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf

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This day in military history:

1199 – King Richard I of England is wounded by a crossbow bolt while fighting in France, leading to his death on April 6.
1387 – English victory over a Franco-Castilian-Flemish fleet in the Battle of Margate off the coast of Margate.
1401 – Turco-Mongol emperor Timur sacks Damascus.
1765 – Great Britain passes the Quartering Act, which requires the Thirteen Colonies to house British troops
1794 – In Kraków, Tadeusz Kościuszko announces a general uprising against Imperial Russia and the Kingdom of Prussia, and assumes the powers of the Commander in Chief of all of the Polish forces.
1860 – Sakuradamon Incident: Japanese chief minister (Tairō) Ii Naosuke is assassinated by rōnin samurai outside the Sakurada Gate of Edo Castle.
1869 – The last of Tītokowaru's forces surrender to the New Zealand government, ending his uprising.
1927 – Nanking Incident: Foreign warships bombard Nanjing, China, in defence of the foreign citizens within the city.
1944 – World War II: In an event later dramatized in the movie The Great Escape, 76 Allied prisoners of war begin breaking out of the German camp Stalag Luft III.
1976 – In Argentina, the armed forces overthrow the constitutional government of President Isabel Perón and start a seven-year dictatorial period self-styled the National Reorganization Process
1999 – Kosovo War: NATO begins attacks on Yugoslavia without United Nations Security Council (UNSC) approval, marking the first time NATO has attacked a sovereign country.
2018 – Syrian civil war: The Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) and Syrian National Army (SNA) take full control of Afrin District, marking the end of the Afrin offensive

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ok so im new to tabletop and bolt action, got my first box (for the emperor) and ended up with something like this, Be honest how much i fucked myself?

dont mind headless army i plan to paint heads separately

>>97766174
>Painting heads separately
>But not arms
I can't claim to understand it, but I wish you luck nonetheless.

Not sure if I'm better off asking /here/ or making a thread but have you ever painted up a 40k army in /hwg/ livery because you couldn't get a local /hwg/ game? The quintessential
>Guard player couldn't talk anyone into playing Bolt Action
It's just a thought I had while looking at AKRC paints and wondering how somebody who's more bought into historicals would paint a space marine army. Paint what you know.

>>97766174
Can’t you only take 1 flag bearer? I guess they can always count as riflemen. If you haven’t looked you should check the Chicago dice article and try to copy their list. Also had recommendations on how to use everything in the box and how to grow

I recently had a game of To The Strongest, and I had the Saxons as regular warriors with a hero, and some of the rules from Warhammer AB's Age of Battle.

So the Saxons were regular and not deep, but they rerolled 1s and 2s to hit. They also had a shock missile they would thrown before a charge. However, they had worse saves against missile fire.

It was an interesting fight.

>>97767710
A lot of the imperial guard units are based on historical armies.

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>TQ
Painted two champions for my Irish force. These will be Curraidh for SAGA, or leaders/heroes for any smaller games like Ravenfeast or Pillage.

>>97766174
I don't play Bolt Action, but looks fine. Japanese Squads historically were sometimes up to 15 men in the early/mid war, so maybe you need more rifles, but it'd be easy enough to put the Flag bearers in as riflemen. It's easy enough to pick up some sprues off ebay/ some metal minis to bulk out a squad or two though, so I woudn't stress too much.

>>97767710
Paint them how you like I guess. I've seen some cool converted Guard armies in proper camo rather than khakis, for example. It's easy enough to paint two /hwg/ forces and get a mate to play some demo games though, so I don't see the appeal of going to the GW trough desu.

>>97767710
I did do the obligatory 'Nam look for a Catachan force many many years ago so yes. It's not so common with non-Guard, for obvious reasons. That said, if you look at older art (and I mean OLDER, like Rogue Trader era) you do get examples of marines in camouflage schemes.
That said, don't forget that 40k and other SF properties are exactly that; SF. I have seen someone do an interesting take on a desert scheme (can't remember exactly whose he used as a base) but using reds, burnt oranges and browns, because it was a 'Martian' type environment. So it scratched his 'authentic colours' itch but also his artistic 'do something different' one too.
Equally, >>97773216's advice of doing two small starter 'demo' forces to preach the gospel is usually valid, but of course will take a bit more time and effort (and cash of course). Although I have asked people to try a ruleset with inauthentic models before (a Rifleman is a Rifleman, really) to get them to try their greens, as it were, so I do sympathise with that angle.

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>TQ
Almost done with my Austro-Hungarian Jagdkommando commission.

>>97765859
Thanks for fixing the OPs.

Got a mate with a 3d printer and he keeps offering to print me some shit before I visit, thinking about it ahead of time I've got a few ideas. I've got a copy of Missile Threat, and that seems like an obvious use of a print plate or two. Anyone got any prior knowledge of Vietnam era air war STLs?

>>97765859

>>97784350
>Anyone got any prior knowledge of Vietnam era air war STLs?
yeah these days you can find pretty much anything flying in Vietnam in STL. There's one sculptor making things in 1:200 (resizable obviously) but the name escapes me.

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finished battle of france bongs

>>97795403
Why the perfidious bongs instead of french?

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>>97795648
Because I already have frogs, looking to get some more with the dragon portèe helmets

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Played a game of late medieval ADLG the other day. While things initially looked good for the English, as my right flank poured mass longbow fire into the advancing German pikes and quickly drove off their Crossbow-armed skirmishers, I made the big mistake of slogging my heavy infantry up the table after a potential enemy formation (in ambush under the token on the top left). This turned out to be a ruse, with the formation of Heavy Knights actually deploying off my right flank and rolling through my army in short order.

>>97781231
Looking good anon!

Can anyone point me to a QRD of all the Bolt Action starter sets and boxes?

When they were talking about the end of history I didn't think they meant it like this.

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>>97813523
the entire site is dying
just bots, jeets and schizos now

>>97813523
Discord has killed the need for anonymous hobby sites. You can easily talk with people in your local area and actually play games

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>>97813523
Just got in a game of Pillage. Awesome sauce!

>>97818564
amazing that the AI got the number of fingers right

>>97818564
i look like this

>>97818564
>so do you want a box, or a book
>YES

Bumping this Q >>97804634
Seems like the introductory might be worth it but the two player starters are kinda shite, unless you are going to use one of the factions?

>>97823106
I reckon go for one of the army boxes rather than the two player starters unless you have really limited wargaming experience. Chicago Dice has a good overview of all the different boxes and whether they are worth it or not, so check them out.

Now cracks a noble heart.
Good-night, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

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>>97765859
Thinking about getting Barons War; is it good or should I stick to another medieval game?

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>>97827909
Supported all the kickstarters, never played. Seems like a fun and simple game.

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So where have you guys migrated? What is your main site now?

>>97827909
1st edition was great, very enjoyable game but easy enough to learn so I used it to bait normies. Never played the second edition though.

>>97829149
>your pic
Got me thinking, what's the best Roman era conflict for wargaming?
>Punic Wars
>Gallic Wars
>Macedonian Wars
>Germanic Wars
>Parthian Wars
>Civil Wars

>>97827909
Pillage is better for early medieval, Nevermind the Billhooks is best for late medieval and is my favorite overall. Barons War really isn't my favorite, but it's decent if you want a simple fun game that doesn't really capture the flavor of the period

>>97829198
Caesarian is the best and most Chad Romans

>>97829403
>shilling pillage while claiming that barons war has no flavor
Fuck off Victrix fag, nobody likes your slop game.

>>97829403
What is the flavour of the period?

>>97829564
Rape

Does anyone have a link to the 3rd ed japanese book for bolt action? It's not in the most recent trove, and the main BA trove is woefully out of date.

>>97829403
>Obligatory Schizohooks shilling
Thank you for reminding me to update the OP next time.

>>97829149
>What is your main site now?
Painting alone in my basement.

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>>97829790
>no one can talk about a popular wargaming title without anon seething
There is a schizo itt, but it's not who you think it is

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>>97829132
>>97829149
>>97829403
Thanks bros I'll look into it; are there any other historical mini games out there with a deep/autistic combat system? BW looked like a shrimple game but I was wanting something a bit more interesting

>>97831264
No.

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>>97831264
>>97827909
Wish me luck senpai

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What are the best games for good old 19th century colonial action? I want to start small with skirmish games to drag my friends into historical wargaming step by step but it would be nice to run some bigger battles eventually.

>>97833719
Check out earlyblazon and wappenwiki for heraldry.

>>97834235
The Men Who Would Be Kings is a good place to start

bump

>>97834235
The Sword and the Flame is classic but the unit counts are fairly large even for a small scenario. You can pretty easily scale down the basic unit size but some oddness may result.

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We had our first game of Fitna yesterday. Syrian civil war of 2012. History was altered as the rebels took over Assad in a brutal conflict. It was fun once the players got the hang of it, I was personally acting as an umpire. One thing that I was left wondering about was the card draw you get from playing the Reinforcements event card. If you draw another event card, can you just keep playing those events or do you have to declare all your events at once and then if you draw any extra those can be used later to generate OP or saved for future turns? It seemed really strong and swingy to chain-draw 3+ reinforcements in a turn into 3 more events. Any Middle-East war veterans here to weight in?

>>97834235
As others have said, The Men Who would be Kings is your best option. Sword and the Flame is a very popular boomer era game and is still very popular at conventions.
These are the best two, but for your purpose MWWBK is what you're looking for

>>97834575
>>97839344
>>97840670
For bigger battles of that period, is Black Powder 2e the way to go? I will be honest with you, I'm not the most hardcore wargamer around and my friends are definitely too fresh for granular and complex rulesets. I'm not sure if it matters but currently we have people working on Zulu, Brit and Afghan forces. We have a friend that wants to build a small Prussian force of the Franco-Prussian War but I'm not sure how to include him in the mix - guess we will have to go alt-history at some point.

Between Hail Caesar and Warmaster Ancients, which is the better system for 1vs1 games?

>>97841070
They are roughly the same game with different goals. Warmaster is more of a game, while Hail Ceasar is much more of a method by which to push toy soldiers around.

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I just asked a chat bot to help me find the most optimal way of placing minis in the unit to make it look varied with no patterns repeating among models placement. It worked well but I feel dirty now.

>>97818564
Why's Pillage a meme? I got the book, it looks fine. Better than SPQR at least.

>>97843302
I just took a car to reach my destination a lot faster than using the horse cart.. but now I feel dirty.

Are you retarded anon?

are there Byzantine minis out there suitable for the 8th century? Is there a general look for that era?

>>97845095
It's not, its a good game. It was made by a 20 something year old French guy by himself and he used AI to help make the artwork for the book. This enraged a single schizo in this general who can't let it go

Anyone know of a skirmish scaled game involving knights bonking each other over the head that also has solo rules?

>>97829468
NTA but why is pillage bad? I thought goonhammer was glowing about it

>>97850277
See >>97849757

>>97850277
>trusting troonhammer recommendations

>>97850524
Recommend me a good online publication for tabletop news and teviews

>>97851513
/hwg/

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>>97829149
IKS Discord
Game Design Discord

>>97850277
It's AI generated slop with zero flavor

>>97852601
I figured you wouldn't have a real answer

>>97850277
Doesn't accurately represent the era and it's mechanically dull.

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Are there any 6mm or similar American civil war rulesets that are close in gameplay to Warmaster/Epic? I tried Polemos ACW but it wasn't for me.

I don't mind the brigade being the smallest tactic unit but I wish there was more granularity in brigade sub-units. I want wounds and killed units not just all combat effects being abstracted into morale. They can withdraw from morale after I've killed half their mans

Also what really bored me was everything being"roll off" then apply modifiers for the exact battlefield conditions including if mercury is in retrograde and if AP Hills shakras are aligned.

>>97765859
Is there a copy of Maurice amongest these pdfs? I can't seem to find it

>>97857340
try 'altar of freedom'
tho you maybe disappointed by 'kills'

>>97859756
Oh and also Valour and fortitude has armylists for ACW. the game is free and quite quick paced.

>>97859412
Maurice has built in anti-piracy measures by having the cards be a necessity. No one can be bothered to scan them. Even if you had the rulebook the experience is very similar to just playing Maurice lite (which is freely available online) if you don't have the card pack.

>>97859920
thanks! I think i've been told this before but was too smooth brain to remember

>>97857340
There's a casual youtube channel I flick back to now and then who does a lot of ACW, basement1908. He's played a good few rulesets (Fire and Fury, Hot Lead and Cold Steel, to name a couple) and whilst he's really a 28mm guy, you can always swap in a 6mm strip for a single figure and change the ground scale accordingly. Only mentioning it as you might help to see how someone plays them (and the mistakes made!) and if they're to your taste.

>>97851513
Wargames illustrated is pretty good, very cheap to get all the back issues as well.

Has "Scenarios for Wargames" by Charles Grant (Wargames Research Group, 1981) been shared?
I have dug through the links in the OP and not found it.

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>>97829149
>So where have you guys migrated? What is your main site now?
We don't want fags like you to follow us, sorry.
....This is your site now, enjoy!!!!!

>>97857340
Valor and Fortitude

>>97829149
That one extremely unpleasant anon uses TLAFM, most people just are very slow to post here as this is a very slow paced hobby.

>>97790284
Sorry for the very tardy reply, posted that while cramming shifts in prior to going away over easter. I did find them, thanks, at first glance their range is a bit patchy compared to the roster but I'll compare in detail when I can.

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Despite all the doom and gloom I still think we live in good times for historical wargaming. Being able to find decent stls for such a niche thing as Zulu scenery is surprising in a good way.

>>97859765
>>97863255

Thanks anons. Valour and Fortitude should be perfect.

I'm new to historicals and am playing for a friend who wants to get into 6-12mm wargaming but only wants to play his ACW special interest. Aside from my deep love of Epic it also makes it easier for him to learn the rules since when Polemos was a damp squib we took the Stonewall Vs Hooker army list and played a modified civil war version of Epic 3rd Edition I made on the back of a napkin in 15 minutes.

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>>97827909
>>97833719
We're so back

>>97850277
Umm it's a lot of fun it's really simple and intuitive, the mechanics for burning and loot are also simple and fun and the scenarios can revolve around that. Simultaneous combat and resolving melees 1 by 1 is its thing tho so forget about unit groups like saga. Right now there is no campaign mode so you might wanna steal that from somewhere else. It's really not that deep mechanically so yeah I see why people think its dull

>>97867010
why print that when you can make it yourself

>>97871781
Why make it myself when my hobby time is already limited? I would rather focus on playing games and working with miniatures than sacrificing that precious time for scratch-building scenery of miserable quality compared with prints that literally print themselves in the meantime. We could go full absurd and ask "why buying minis when you can sculpt them yourself".

>>97867010
There is more historical models, terrain, rulesets, and events than there has ever been in history. Attendance at historical events is at record high. Historical are thriving, you just don't notice it behind the unwashed masses playing Warhammer at the LGS. This general isnt dying because historicals are, it's dying because 4chan is.

>>97872266
>This general isnt dying because historicals are, it's dying because 4chan is.
What killed it?

>>97873771
Other platforms more suited for a modern Internet user. TikTok, IG, FB, Twitter or even Plebbit. Being anonymous is not such a hot feature anymore when your presence in the Internet is all about making yourself a name and acting like an influencer.

>>97845526
Robo simp

>>97849908
Lords and Servants

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>>97765859
OK, so I played a good few games of lion rampent with my finished agincourt guys, then put them to the side for a bit, but now I want to play something again with them that is different from lion rampent. maybe something a little more rank and flank. might also try baron's war for smaller scale stuff, but also want the feeling of commanding formations. I have about 50 models per side. I was recommended maybe trying never mind the billhooks, but a little eh on card usage. but maybe I will try if there arent any better alternatives.

>>97873771
What killed traditional forums?

>>97879485
facbook and discord

>>97873771
These Anons >>97873976 >>97879511 have it right.
>>97872266
>Historical are thriving, you just don't notice it behind the unwashed masses playing Warhammer at the LGS.
I wish it was an universal truth but the reality is the spread is extremely uneven. My city is 250k pop and there is only 1 (one) LGS with no historical game played since 2022. The closest active historical wargaming group I know about is over 100km away. There are places where Bolt Action is as popular as 40k and whole countries where historical scene is almost non-existent.

>>97873771
Discord trannies, spam, and the fact that nothing 4chan has to offer is still unique to 4chan.

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Don't know if Tom still frequents here, I haven't been here in years but... I'm building a little Falklands set for "Missile Threat". Potentially inspired by the news. I like my missiles made out of laces. Will let folk know if the game is any good in a week or two

>>97880244
Low quality conversation and argumentative spergs is why I stopped.

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How well does Bolt Acrion work at 1/72? Or is there a better WW2 rule set(s)?

>>97884545
>is there a better WW2 rule set(s)?
Bolt Action is the basic bitch McDonald's burger WW2 system, you play it if you want to put zero effort in adapting rules/scenarios and finding someone to play, not for its own merits. If you're willing to put some effort, there are many more better systems.
I like Chain of Command

>>97829132
>>97829140
>>97829153
Anon, I love your painting style, it's very recognizable and it looks great.

Any recommendations for good, comprehensive, academic reference books on Napoleonic Armies? I want to do a campaign in my local club of Austro-Polish War of 1809 in 2mm. Look for source materials for Austrian and Polish armies

Anyone have the BattlegroundHD Europe 84 pdfs?

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>>97875454
I'm a big billhooks fan, but I do think the differences between the 100 years war and wars of the roses are large enough that a different system will likely suit you better. I've played a few games of Blood and Horse Droppings recently that were good fun and focused on that period, and I've seen lots of good things online about using Midgard for historicals in that period.

>>97882807
Please report back how you find it, I've been half tempted to get into modern air combat for a little while, but havn't quite had the push over other projects.

>>97884545
Seconding Chain of Command, it's easily my favourite WW2 system. Nobody is going to play Bolt Action outside of 28mm Warlord Ape men anyway.

>>97884545
>>97885397
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

>anon asks non question where answer is obvious
>sperg jumps in to correct his rules choice withou even answering

>>97888279
> I do think the differences between the 100 years war and wars of the roses are large enough that a different system will likely suit you bet

Really? Why? Explain your reasoning and tell us the big jumps in tactics and equipment between 1415 and 1485.

You guys are all full of shit, performative spergs, which is why these threads go nowhere. Historical wargaming is just another autistic pretense for you.

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>>97889706
>Answer is obvious

The vast, vast majority of bolt action players will be using Warlords 28mm offerings. This means it'll likely be more difficult to find a game in a different scale compared to other WW2 Platoon scale games, of which CoC is largely considered to be the best in this general and elsewhere.

While the arms and armour between the 100 years war and WOTR are clearly very similar, I think the cultural shift that came from a civil war rather than England vs France (particularly the fact the English almost never used cavalry) changes the tactical situation enough to warrant a ruleset focused around that. You could also add the greater use of more reliable gunpowder weapons, the beginning of the end of massed longbow fire in the face of superior harnesses and the increasing numbers of semi-professional billmen as additional elements. At the end of the day, you could boil every period down to a "I roll to hit, wound and armour save" sludge (fuck you universal rulesets), but it's the small changes in flavour that really make a ruleset shine in my opinion.

Also, grow up you fucking child. It's not like you gave your opinions or did anything other than jerk yourself off about how much better you think you are than the people actually replying to posts.

>>97892143
>more bullshit

Handguns were not exactly decisive in this conflict and the "mounted infantry" fighting style of men at arms began in the HYW. I also note you don't suggest a rules set.

Re Bolt Action, I've always found lardies rules very stop start, lots of digression posed as granularity but the ranges of BA and the price overhead are great in 20mm.

>>97892143
You don't need a specific ruleset if all you do is change the amount of a few units in your army lists.

>>97873771
Well /pol/ really. A lot of traffic these days are just incels, trannies and other terminally online users spamming whatever thread they decide to plague.

>>97893593

not that anon but you've clearly already made your mind up in spite of the obvious so just go ahead and use the HYW minis for WOTR, it's not the end of the world

Are there any Pelopennesian or Greco-Persian War wargames?

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>>97765859
Does anybody make 28mm models suitable for late Cold War US tropical operations?

>>97895526
Mortal Gods

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>>97882807
Tom is definitely still here!
Love the lace missiles! very clever. Good luck with the Falklands wargaming.

The news is inspiring me to set up a hypothetical (or not) operational level Iran 2026 wargame, likely be a Kriegsspiel.
Have been working out supply rules, simple detection and attack rules, and trying to pin down the exact Iranian OOB.

How does barons war compare to lion rampant? I've had fun with the latter system, combined with some optional rules from dragon rampant to add more granularity.

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>watching a britbong naval youtuber discuss naval things
>keeps almost saying "lieutenant" before correcting himself to "leftenant"

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Warlord Japanese as a cover gift. No experience with that theatre so purely based off image searches. Initial attempt looked too pale from what I could find online, tried two directions (basically a brown wash followed by a green, and the reverse). Is either a better attempt, or are they both valid enough to pass off as differences in fabric and wear?

>>97897000
It's better

>>97897038
Link?

>>97897406
Both do i guess, Japanese uniforms came from a great variaty of suppliers, and also greatly change color under the tropical climate they often were used in.
But give em some matte varnish.

Completely burnt out of my 10mm AWI project but I'm not fussed
Decided to get a few 28mm pirates and late 17th c. stuff and get some En Garde stuff going for some figures I already have. Just need a ship or two..

>>97897038
I have the opposite lel

>>97897751
Yeah that gloss is a bit much, isnt it? All I've got left, and I'd forgotten how GLOSS this one was when it dries... I'm probably due a supply run to the model shop anyway.
Thanks though, friend, appreciated.

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>>97889706

>>97897978
What're the pros and cons of Bolt Action and Chain of Command?
And can I use Bolt Action minis for CoC?

>>97898561
>And can I use Bolt Action minis for CoC?
yes, you can use any ww2 minis. Just read the platoon organization and support lists to make sure you have what they ask for

>>97898561
No, you're only allowed to use Warlord Games™ miniatures for Bolt Action

>>97898561

CoC is quite grindy with incredibly limited force building structure, more about manoeuvre, suppression , morale

Bolt Action is if you just want to get your guys and roll some dice, obvious warhammer influence

CoC is the better game, Bolt Action is easier to learn and get new people into

>>97897483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI4fqkVplqI

>>97895700
Seems neat. Thank you.

>>97898561
>can I use Bolt Action minis for CoC?
You can use whatever WW2 minis for CoC, just ask your opponent if you're playing the same scale. It plays OK at 28mm, 15mm, 1:72, whatever.