>>97865220
I want to beat the shit out of this man in the parking lot. Invest in crypto like a proper white nerd, holy shit. Suddenly, all the criticisms the whiny SJWs make sense about the hobby; look at all those fat, slovenly nerds. No muscle, all fat - and despite this, they engage in terrible practices that turn people off from the hobby. Of course I'll take some pronoun-popping hobbyist than a "lifer" like this, holy shit.

Anyway does anyone have some good recipes for pancakes. I've got some Dolly Parton mix.

>go to the usual store in the city, check out if there's anything cool I want to get
>have a look around at the tables downstairs
>kids are going around mocking people for their paintjobs
>a few of them are playing
>it's just netlists on an almost flat surface deployed on the long side so that they can smash in the middle
>meanwhile some guy who thinks he's cool is rolling up a cigarette near the fire exit

And that's when I decided I would never play in these places.

>>97865302 (Me)
>accompany a friend who has to get some comics
>there's small tables to play pokemon, yu gi oh or whatever
>a grown ass man opens his fancy briefcase and uses an optimized deck to play against a kid that's holding his head in his hands while looking down at the table
>the man has the gall to look smugly pleased

What's wrong with these people?

>>97865220
>walk into shoebox LGS that opened down the street
>owners haven't cleaned or renovated the store at all
>haven't even bought a sign
>there's like a dozen comics and a few board games on the wall
>3 obese neckbeards are hunched around the table, sifting through a few thousand MtG cards
>all of them have their shoes off, shoes strewn about the miniscule floorspace
>store smells like mold and feet
>never return
>store shuts down a few months later.

>>97865264
whats worse is the LGS is letting him

this isn't your usual scalper, but a regular who is currently scalping and the LGS lets him get away with it because he's a loyal customer

So, funny quirk about my usual LGS, it has 2 Yu-gi-oh trophies on display, despite not stocking Yu-gi-oh merchandise, nor hosting any Yu-gi-oh games, they even have a standing policy that if they see you with Yu-gi-oh cards, you’ll be asked to either put them away or leave.

I guess in the past (before I started going), they did used to host Yu-gi-oh tournaments, and stocked the cards. But turns out our local Yu-gi-oh community are a bunch of unsocialized gremlins who would trash the store’s gaming area, do shady dealings, counterfeit cards, etc… they were giving the store a bad reputation and making the store’s regulars uncomfortable. So the owners lost their patience and banned the game outright from the store, in its entirety.

As I heard it told, the Yu-gi-oh players moved to playing at the Del Taco across the street, until they got banned from there too.

Regardless it’s held as one of the reasons the store’s original owners have always been held in high regard.

They both died in 2020 from Covid. But the store’s continued to remain open, changed hands a few times, but always remained open. Though it’s lost some of its atmosphere from those days.

>>97865696
name the LGS plx

>>97865696
Yu-gi-oh is universally banned in my area at the game stores:
>never buy anything not even a drink
>loud and obnoxious, heavy profanity
>cards/decks getting stolen
>fights
>5-6 things shoplifted during each event
They were all trouble and no benefit.

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>>97865264
>I am a tourist
Lemme guess, triefling?

>>97865829
bot post?

>>97865349
Why wouldn't they?
LGS are a business.

>>97865882
Selling ALL of a product to one consumer is actually bad for business, since you want as many repeat and happy customers as possible

>Dragons Den always sells all its pokemon to that fat guy. Im going to the JokersChest from now on!

>>97865891
>Selling ALL of a product to one consumer is actually bad for business, since you want as many repeat and happy customers as possible
Depends entirely on turn-around for the store.
If they order in extra accounting for it or can re-stock within 3 days it's no big deal.
An easier way for a store to go bankrupt is to refuse to sell to people.

>>97865909
They don't refuse they set limits. Your business will not sustain itself if you keep selling all of your product to one person forever. You will drive away an actual customer base in favor of one pig.
This is basic business practices, and I'm not really sure why you're arguing against it as though you've come up with some new economic thesis

>>97865772
Yeah, because any Yu-gi-oh players over a certain age are unsocialized gremlins. And any players under that age threshold legally can’t work so the money they have to spend is limited.

>>97865220
I could never respect an LGS that doesn't have a limit on Pokemon.

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>one day I was bored
>I decided to try visiting an lgs for a change in search for some game groups
>they have magic game groups!
>they're the good kind of neckbeards, like human equivalent of dwarves in terms of general mood and humor, playing with them is fun(though I just look when it's edh time because I don't like it)
>they dubbed me the Shadowmoor guy because almost all the cards I use are from shadowmoor
>when lorwyn eclipsed came out they presented me a few boosters for my birthday
I got lucky meeting those lads, bless 'em

>inside is louder than a casino
>fat fucks are smelly
>hot and moist during summer and winter due to the number of people
>outside is full of smokers
>is hot as hell during summer and cold in winter
>all the terrain are L shape of unpainted mdf
>there is an event almost everyday and a tournament every weekend
>so if you want to play you either have to play competitive wargames or hope there is an empty table
>there aren't other options because I live in the third world and most of the player base it too poor to have a proper club
I hate it hear.

>>97866913
commit suicide o algo

>>97866920
I could culturally enrich one of your countries.

>>97866944
im from india

>>97865220
Is every human in the USA fat?

>>97866950
Guess my life is not that bad

>>97866952
The USA is populated by Americans, anon. Very few humans live there.

>>97866952
40% to 70% are obese in the USA.

>>97866985
42%, not even in the top 10. What a disgrace.
Gringos are getting thinner as years go by, but when they get fat they get their own gravity well.

>>97865220
Okay, old grumpy man here…

Most of the gaming shops in the UK are basically used by inattentive parents to dump their little shits off at whilst they go have affairs so it's basically a fucking youth club (remember those?) most of the time. Lots of screaming and throwing minis about.

My LGS has a booking system for the roleplaying tables and you best bloody use it because they seem to have a magic tournament going every fucking week so if you just want to rock up and play something else you're out of luck. And no it's never promoted beforehand.

The place used to be bigger and have more board games and niche stuff but shockingly no one wanted to pay £10 more for a box some sticky fingered goblin has been licking. They have since downsized the shop part of the shop.

We have a fortnightly group meet up for people wanting to find people to play roleplaying games with, but it's mostly just a popularity contest. Full of your “actor” types. The ones who are already in with the “cool kids” get swamped with requests whilst people like me wanting to run TOEE get ignored cause we're not doing a homebrew Bridgeton mod for 5e or some other other crap.

We have a high student population where I live, so most of the customers for game shops are poncey hipster pricks who have bought their decks online or have watched Critical Role so much they can quote it from memory and don't understand how combat works.

>>97867210
critical role and its consequences have been a disaster for the rpg society

>>97866166
>not sustainable
>sell to him forever
>forever
Sounds sustainable

>>97867793
I have nothing against people playing a narrative focused game in the streamed/recorded vlog style of Critical Role. What I have an issue with is using D&D to do it. The rulebook is 80% about combat, it's balanced for dungeon crawling with limited rest stops. (And thus something like a lore bard + tome warlock multiclass makes the social game a breeze.)

Let's say you take something like Legend in the Mist, a system built from the ground up to be a narrative game (and in fact quite a lethal system if you look at the death spiral/5 stacking hits and incapacitate rule). These sorts of players don't want to play LotM because it's not the 5e game they know.

Ironically they also don't want to play Daggerheart for the same reason. It becomes about wish fulfillment theater improv with no consequences and not a game where you have to play to not lose. I don't even hate pre-2024 5th Edition, I think it's fine. I just don't like where the hobby has gone.

>>97867856
He gets shot or dies from one too many big macs and now you lost your whale AND all the people that got scared off from your store

>>97865882
Plenty of stores put limits on how much individual customers can buy, including shit like walmart and pokemon cards, so ask them

>>97865220
My LGS has survived fires, burglaries, embezzlement, a child diddling scandal, and the wokeining era.

>>97866952
no. just the cattle

>>97866920
what does o algo mean again

>>97866952
it's our Strategic Calorie Reserve and it can shoot back

>>97865220
it STINKS
and now that warm weather is upon us it's only going to get worse

Thought I was on /k/ for a second lol

>>97867856
Fucking retard lmao go write a book on business practices

>>97865220
I no longer go to local game stores regularly. Despite there being 4 in a 2 mile radius in a small city with only around 70,000 people in it.

I play board games with my friends inside one of their businesses for one group, and the other group is inside a brewery. The only time I really go to the game stores is to buy card sleeves or an occasional comic. The few times I do go to my comic stores to buy sleeves or comics, it's full of neckbeards and it stinks. They are usually playing TCGs like One Piece, Grand Archive, or MTG. One of the places used to be a restaurant with a banquet hall, and the entire banquet hall is full of tables for games.

I'm kind of tired of TCG friendships really. A tournament is absolutely exhausting, and there are so many other things I'd rather do with my time. I like board games mostly because of the variety and social aspect of it. It isn't really competitive and is more relaxing to play.

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>>97865220
>Be me 2-ish years ago.
>New LGS in town. Town is small so it's only LGS in town too.
>Go along every weekend for ttrpg nights to support it.
>Owned by three people, two dudes and one chick. Dudes kinda don't like that, to be a business, they have to actually make money as a cafe.
>Chick is pretty cool though. She knows that to start out the cafe part is always more important, and that owning a building costs money, and yet she's also the least spergy person of the trio.
>Their games nights are 'one big setting with multiple paid DM's running 5e, with only the PhB, and at different levels'.
>Basically people come in on the night and sit down at random, and the DM runs something like DotMM or LMoF or something.
>They're complaining about expenses and have only one paid DM (whom I kinda co-DM with), plus a couple personal games.
>Offer to be a rostered DM to main guy. Willing to do it for free, and I've chatted to all of them a lot by now.
>Get told no.
>Ignore this and take on games and tables myself because eight newfags on one HMF grog DM is too much, and actually have pretty fun sessions there, taking eager 8 year olds with knight PC's on quests for rare flowers and the like.
One of the most kino games I've ever had in all honesty.
>DM likes that there's someone else there who's fairly experienced in the hobby, who isn't massively autistic and can communicate more than three words a minute.

>Leave for two years to go overseas.

>Come back. Decide I want to go in for an in-person game.
>Rock up, and everyone's sitting in chairs, staring at me with their heads down (I've an athletic, 'scary' build that doesn't immediately suggest a WoD enjoyer).
>Go up to the main guy and say "hello again".
>Has no idea who I am.
>Ask if there are any games going that I can join in on.
"Do you have a ticket?"
>lulwut.exe
"We have too many people coming in to play games. You need to reserve a ticket prior to the session if you want to play."
>Offer to run a game.
"No."

>>97868489
Getting some real autistic vibes from this mother fucker.

>>97865220
Mine closed during covid and never reopened.
There is a weeb store that technically sells cards but they make the bulk of their money selling overpriced plushies and used manga that they buy in bulk somewhere.
There is also a place that sells Warhammer in my town, that is tiny and only opened two days a week with really weird store hours, so I personally never seen them opened.

So yeah, I buy my stuff online and only play with people I know from martial arts clubs or occasionally family members.
Tried several times playing online and it was always without exception a shitshow, mainly due to scheduling and people not showing up/ghosting.

>>97868067
In reality a new whale comes and takes the now available stock
>nuh uh
K. It may shock you to know many companies have one major client that keeps them afloat

Mine opened in a real small town without much play space. It closed after a year. Me and the boys had to start going to the one 25 minutes away, which isn't too bad but sucked that our place died. We've been coming to the other one for a year or two now. Admittedly it's a much better shop.

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>>97865264
Even if what you say is right it is not a good idea to choose a lesser evil over what you deem is a worse evil.
In the context of an LGS community of course. There are contexts where it is better.

I just hate pokemon scalpers mostly because it is becoming dangerously common for scalpers to engage in more insane ways for cardboard crack to scalp online like robberies of varying comical degrees.

The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already and eventually it will reach wargames.
If it hasn't already to the level that pokemon scalpers go to get their cards to scalp online.

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>>97866952
Only old people and minorities.

As a chubby chaser, trying to find a fat white zoomette under the age of 25 is like trying to find a fucking unicorn.

>>97867210
Sheffield?

>>97870043
>America solves its obesity crisis
>With inflation
Comical

>>97865315
>Sees Seto Kaiba IRL
>is displeased
Mad bcuz 3rd rate duelist

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>>97869885
>The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already and eventually it will reach wargames.
Politely, no it won't, at least nowhere near to the extent and problem Pokemon has. Retards like the Pauls have desperately tried to do it with Yugioh and MTG and are actively failing.

The primarily problem is that most people in the Pokemon TCG space dont actually play the fucking game. The cards are glorified NFTs. They hold the same "value" as sports cards like a rookie MJ. Its less a game piece and more a collectible.

While there ARE rare and expensive cards in Yugioh and MTG, price is almost completely dictated by powerlevel and popularity as a GAME PIECE. Gaea's Cradle is 700 dollars because it's one of the most powerful lands ever printed, and legal to use in the games most popular format (EDH). Force of Negation is 50 dollars because it sees play in multiple formats and is one of the top 5 best counters of all time.

This sams logic applies to Yugioh, albeit differently due to how Konami handles powercreep, archetypes etc. But the same philosophy applies; Expensive cards are expensive because theyre good.

You dont need some first edition numbered fractured foil ghost rare artist signature insert to play the game. Youll just get the cheapest, most accessible option.

This is where it's really funny to go to any LGS or vendor where you can tell theyre some Pokemon scalping crypto retard and they thought they could break into MTG. All they ever carry is slop from the newest sets and they're bewildered and dont understand that that "special foil mythic alt art" they pulled is fucking worthless because the card is dogshit unplayable and nobody cares.

Pokemon? Collectors and investors outnumber players. In MTG and Yugioh its the complete opposite.

>>97870106
That was actually a wonderful read anon.

Does this whole thing mean that wargaming miniatures are safe from the extreme levels of scalping that Pokemon cards have at the moment?
I know that wargaming miniatures are not immune to scalping. I'm talking about the level Pokemon cards face like robberies for cards, physical fights over them the second restocks happen etc.

I think the companies benefit heavily from the scalping epidemic on their end and maybe mini companies will see this and want to entice scalping of their products for quick term big profit. Especially with 3D printing (allegedly) getting more easily accessible and usable to the ordinary joe.

If the Pokemon Scalping level hits Warhammer I can imagine most game stores will be screwed over as boxes of minis are scalped and fights and even stolen off the tables of ongoing games.

>>97869885
>The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already
Europe just passed a law to make pokemon cards "collectible art pieces" so now if you're trying to "invest" in them you'll get taxed to hell.
it probably won't stop it but it's at least something

>>97870133 (here)
Forgot to add.
I will admit that part of me wants to see the insanity happen as I want to feel superior for not taking part in such pursuits of dollars over dignity. Which is why I partly want to see the scalping menace reach Warhammer.

But if it does I'll probably suffer too and regret my wishes.
>>97870106
>Politely, no it won't, at least nowhere near to the extent and problem Pokemon has.
How badly would it reach at worst?

I need another coffee.

Mostly reminded by the numerous mentions in the thread and this >>97869885 in particular but down here in Australia from what I've noticed LGS are divided into two categories generally; those that ban specific TGCs and those that don't. The ones that do ban them usually ban everything but MtG while the ones that ban none of them invariably garner absolutely scumfuck reputations; there's one particular LGS a couple suburbs away from me that shut it's doors because the owner went to jail. He was prosecuted for unsealing boosters of Pokemon/Yugioh and selling the profitable cards then resealing them with junk filler, which down here is a federal crime. From my perspective TCGs are a net negative to LGS businesses and are only tolerated out of the evil necessity of pulling in profit. So for me, easy way to immediately spot a bad LGS is whether they're banning almost or all TCGs; YMMV.

>>97870043
>almost a third of millennial women is obese
Americans is this true?

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I really like my LGS. The staff are friendly (even though a couple of them look scary with piercings and tattoos) and the people who play Warhammer Fantasy there are great. The card game people are a little unpleasant, but they're on their side of the store and the wargamers are on the other, so that's okay. The store caters really hard to people who play card games and 40k, but that's how they make money so that's alright and they do allow and even encourage people to play other games. The guys who play the star wars wargames are kinda mean though, they get real mad at you if you show up wanting to do anything else on "their" night even when there are lots of tables not being used. There's a healthy WHFB community there, sometimes they have really old models from the '80s just waiting to be discovered (I got the chaos renegade that I used to make this fella from there) and that's why the store is great. I'm going to miss it very much, but I've made a lot of memories there over the last four years. If I'm ever back in town, I'll be sure to pop in and see how everyone's doing.

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>>97870133
>>97870147
The thing you have to keep in mind in any hobby or game where Players outnumber Collectors is that players will find a way.

I dont want to get into the ethics and opinions about proxying, but the more time you spend in circles of people who play warhames, tabletop rpgs, even Magic, people will find a way to acquire or make game pieces to play with their friends or their LGS. Yes, yes, they aren't condoned for official tournament play, but your average Billy and Jimmy dont give a single fuck about that and just want something to do on a weekend.

You joke about 3D printing but theres a reason its taken the hobby by storm. The models are cooler, more varied, more accessible. That's not even getting into the part of the miniatures hobby where alot of people enjoy PAINTING more than they ever give a fuck about PLAYING, so who gives a fuck about whether its an Official GW Chaos Space Marine or an Evil Maelstorm Galaxy Knight, you just want plastic to paint.

Pokemons main issue is that most people dont play the game. Theyre more obsessed with grabbing whatever chase card is in the set or collecting their favorite Glorbo, Sproingus, and Glup Shitto.

I went to a card show in my state recently just to pick some shit. No joke, all the Pokemon stuff was slabbed up. Nobody gave a shit about the game. I bet you my left nut if you asked half those vendors how to play they'd go cross eyed. All anyone did was talk about market trends and "pop scores" and other crypto adjacent bullshit. Meanwhile when I found one of the two or three actual Magic stalls? Surprise surprise, people and the vendors actually TALKED about the game, their decks, their favorite strategies and formats.

I'm not saying the cryptobro bullshit cant infect some of these other hobbies, but it is INFINITELY harder for them when you see just how quickly your average wargames or Magic player will just go "lol fuck you" and play with sticks, stones, and paper scribbles if they have to.

>>97870133
> Does this whole thing mean that wargaming miniatures are safe from the extreme levels of scalping that Pokemon cards have at the moment?
I honestly don’t see how they could.
I mean a wargame’s miniatures are, 90% of the time, sold as model kits. Those kits aren’t going to be “rare” because all players need access to them, they may be locally rare, but if a mini is actually rare and hard to find, it either means the mini is being phased out of the game and probably won’t have rules for it pretty soon if not already (making it worthless), or the game itself isn’t extremely popular in the area/the game is dying, which means there’s likely nobody interested in buying the minis (making them worthless).

The only way I can see being able to turn over a profit from reselling wargame miniatures would be to buy the kit, take it home, assemble the kit, paint it, and then resell it as a finished model; but that would only work if the quality of the work was of a higher level than what the average wargamer can produce themselves. But this would require effort, and hard work, and I don’t think that’s what the typical scalper is looking for.

>>97870043
Isn’t the joy of architecture building from the ground up?
Just feed a bitch anon

>>97870133
I don't think that's a possibility. Some of the big box sets GW puts out do get scalped but those boxes are just a bunch of kits bundled together. The really egregious price-gouging only happens with metal models from the '80s and '90s and that's not so much scalping as it is those models just being rare and desirable.

My LGS used to have a gumball machine that I would leave quarters in for the little ones until some dipshit let his kids knock it over and break it.

Aside from that everyone there is chill albeit there is a tranny that shows up for Magic and is super fucking prissy and I instantly hated it from the moment it gave me shit for smoking in the parking lot.

>>97868128
“or something”

>>97870316
>pic
fucking zog dogs

>>97865220
>LGS I used to regularly go to breaks off from the nation-wide company that used to own them
>complete rebrand and ownership change to the former managers
>skip forward a year
>I'm in the area for other reasons and go in to possibly grab some sleeves and ask about what games they're run during their alt-wargaming Thursdays that recently started
>literal fat neckbeard manager is down the back, sorting chairs and cleaning tables
>part timer chick is stocking sleeves near the entrance
>I walk up and look at the sleeve prices
>roughly double what their former parent company and Amazon charge
>almost scoff at the price
>walk up to the counter and buy sleeves on my phone while waiting for someone to come talk to me
>chick finally notices me and comes up
>I ask about the Thursday event
>"Uh... I think Yu-Gi-Oh is the only thing we do on Thursdays"
>tell her that the event calendar on their website and FB page lists Thursdays as alt-wargaming and to call or come in to ask about what they're running each week
>she walks behind the counter, opens up FB, scrolls up and down on the store's page for 5 minutes without stopping to read anything or look at their weekly event calendar, then says that I'm wrong and that Thursday is just D&D and Yu-Gi-Oh
>she doesn't say anything else and just goes back to stocking shelves
>I walk out and go home

>>97870133
I'll throw in mine too and say hard no. The biggest reason it's turned into a scalper engine is due to the random chance nature of card packs. Cards are stupidly cheap to manufacture, miniatures are not. The only way to make money flipping pokemon cards is to consume enough volume that whatever you spend on them is extremely likely to pay off with a few good cards. Why those cards have any value has already been described better than I could have. If a miniatures game came out that had a blind-box system, and was giga-popular, and stayed popular for a long time, then maybe it could, but it still wouldn't have the accessibility of a card game.

The closest to it might be Games Workshop games due to sheer popularity, but that's virtually a pure collector ecosystem, nobody is buying unopened Battlefleet Gothic starter sets at $600 apeice and expecting it to finance their retirement 20 years from now.

Turn up to lgs for a quick wargame. We figure there should be a space on a wednesday evening.
Shop is full of mtg players downstairs so we go upstairs and set up on the larger (3.5 x 8) table.
Partway through our game 2 guys walk in to the room and start looking for a space to play, completely ignoring the small (4 x 3) table before heading back downstairs.
Owner comes up to tell us that the table was booked and told us to relocate our wargame to the small table.
The 2 guys come back and play a single mtg game on the large table before leaving.

>>97872377
You were in the wrong here, dripping with spite for some reason. Also if you were unable to also bring those events up on your phone to prove yourself right it leans more towards you being some weird sperg that probably wasn't even in the right store

>>97865220
>go into store
>buy Humbrol 66 Olive Drab and 67 Tank Grey
>purple haired girl behind counter
>"hey anon, what are you painting"
>reply "Nazis, lots of Nazis"
>bitch looks at me like I've just raped her

>>97868128
"Or something" or something

>>97869672
>It may shock you to know many companies have one major client that keeps them afloat
Did it shock you to know that real companies also place limits on how many pokemon cards you can buy

>>97875877
kek

>>97867793
Nope, Brighton.
But it just shows how common the problem is in the UK.

>>97876093
Real companies do a lot of things

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My LGS is chill. There's small subcommunities, notably the RPG, MTG, WH, and classic wargame groups. It's neat though, the classic wargaming group is a bunch of older guys, they play those games with the little tiles on em.
Also one of the employees hits me and laughs when I cry out in pain and the store owner allows it because it's funny and I'm annoying

>>97876307
Like that

>>97877000
Chekd and yes, and also not that

>>97870316
>or collecting their favorite Glorbo, Sproingus, and Glup Shitto.
That would've been fine on its own, it was the mindset of a lot of kids back in the day. And yeah, kinda the reason why we're in this mess. But like you said
>All anyone did was talk about market trends and "pop scores" and other crypto adjacent bullshit.
That's all of it nowadays. I've seen the youtube space go from manchildren waxing nostalgically or talk about art to manchildren soullessly talking about market investment garbage and mispronounce names and talk like the most generic failed youtuber. It disgusts me.

>>97875877
Based hope she bans you

>>97865220
had one girl playing some card game a table over who was talking loudly about how her mom or herself made lewd cardmats on commisions. which is about par for the course for card gamers.

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I've never been to a [Friendly] Local Game Store. They always seem to be mad that I came in. It got to the point that I thought I had bad hygiene or something but no, they just didn't like having me in the store.

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>LGS staff want to ban a player because he attends meetings for the restore UK party
I had to convince them to back down because the person hasn't actually done anything wrong (because they actually haven't in regards to the LGS or its playerbase) and it'd just make matters worse

>>97878452
They can smell you're a disney adult

>>97878474
how did they even find out

>>97878484
I don't know, it's one of the magic players and I don't know them personally

>>97878474
>people being banned for having the wrong opinion
>>relax anon, your rights arent being violated

>>97878474
To be fair, they're just doing their jobs as loyal UK citizens.
Didn't you know that it's illegal to think anti-establishment thoughts or to go against the agenda of the current government?
Fuck the UK. My parents want to leave Australia for England and I'm all but begging them to go anywhere else since the British police are already doing door knocks and arrests for people posting shit online.

>>97878481
I was wondering why you picked Disney but then I realized that Disney owns Marvel now.

>>97870156
You are conflating game stores with card stores.
Card stores invariably suck nigger cock.

>>97866858
>they're the good kind of neckbeards, like human equivalent of dwarves in terms of general mood and humor
I know exactly the kind guys you're talking about.
Used to hang with a similar group before I moved. Banter, accommodating, and everyone just enjoying their time.
I miss those guys.

>>97878750
I still think he's retarded, and I don't know if he was doing that to be an asshat or if a lot of people unironically did forget that Disney only bought marvel in like 2009. Which would be fucked up of true
And that pic has got to be from something way older than that

>>97865829
The artist of that image makes guro porn of that OC

>>97865220
My LGS has been around since the 80s, customerbase is a mix of old grognards playing historicals, some younger guys that play 40k, and the occasional smattering of MTG players. The place doesnt stink, the staff is friendly, and everyone is pretty chill, so much so that ive even seen some normie women come in occasionally, and they dont immediately run for the hills

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When I first visited my LGS about 2 years ago, I was introduced to 40k by this guy named Brandon. Now Brandon was an odd fellow, wore furry merch like hats and shirts, was visibly autistic, and, above all, a newbie poacher. He'd only play against new/inexperienced players, CHEATED during said games, then be a smug faggot all like "yeah, I have a 100 game win streak". I, a fellow autistic furfag, was immediately repulsed by his 1% more autistic demeanor, so I called him out on bullshit, made him quit tau because he couldn't daisy chain spotter-shooter pairs, and claimed games with new players before he could. Unfortunately, during that time, he got 2 new kids to quit 40k out of frustration.
He was then banned for showing dick pics unsolicited to another player.
Fuck you Brandon. I know about the diaper stuff

>>97866166
There's nothing more sure of himself than a fool.
For he does not know what he does not know.

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>Wargamers getting shoved aside for Magic, Riftbound, and Gundam players and One Piece collectors
>retards come in and blow $400+ on booster boxes and shit during events
>Warhammer/Conquest/Legions player will buy a box or two almost every week
>try to run event for Warhammer
>politely get told to fuck off halfway through because they need the space for the hambeast Magic players

People are cool overall, but I just got tired of being second-class 'cause I don't blow triple-digit dollars on coomer shit like One Piece cards.

>>97865264
Melted butter can help make it more batter-y which turns into soft, fluffy pancakes. I did some from scratch recently and they were delicious.

>>97879613
Im genuinely so happy that my LGS only has like one tiny corner of the store dedicated to magic, and the entire rest is dedicated to wargames and RPGs. I feel like it definitely fosters a better community

>>97879577
>Fuck you Brandon
I swear Brandon is a cursed name. My local store used to have a regular named Brandon, who I accidentally created the nickname Captain Autism for by calling him it once while hanging out with the two employees of the store, that they had to tard wrangle all the time. The thing that they most consistently did was ask him the name of what ever woman he was attempting to bother which would make him give up. He was annoying but wasn't really that bad, he just stopped showing up since the store moved and wasn't within a 3 minute walk for him anymore.
The YuGiOh guys were more trouble anyway. Cheating in tournaments against the biggest shitters, theft from one another, no bathing, the occasional theft from the store, yelling various curse words and slurs all day even when the store had normalfag families looking at board games, and an eventual devolution to where they never actually bought anything from the store resulted in all YuGiOh events being dropped and a much smaller amount of product being carried in the store. Our Brandon was one of the YuGiOh players as well, mostly due to him getting into anything he could get his hands on, but was just annoying and actually bought stuff, didn't steal, and I never heard him say a single slur or curse in the first place so he wasn't really part of The YuGiOh Problem. Having to share a night with the YuGiOh fags for a few years was hell.

>>97875877
I always assumed this shit was a meme until I nearly witnessed a fist fight between a Bolt Action player and a resident nagging leftist who automatically assumes that every historical wargamer supports the local "far right" party

I have a couple LGS and they all are kind of falling into the same traps.

>Local GW has some cool staff, but others just try to shill stuff to buy even if you bought something or just want basic advice. The entire store is also just filled with tourneyfags now who run comp lists for anything from bloodbowl to 40k.
>No "your dudes" allowed seems to be the go to, as many people outside greybeards want only GW models with no bits of any kind.

>Another store used to be part of a franchise before they bought themselves out, now they only do card games or occasionally 40k. They got rid of all their board games and rpg books.

>Third store is a general hobby store that branched off recently to have card game or 40k nights. AOS and old world are kind of layed there, but terrain is limited to L shape ruins.

>Last store around me is a comic store that has some cool staff, but it mainly focuses on cards or skirmish games. Some staff there get really pissy over Warhammer or historical stuff because they think it supports the wrong people while other staff enjoy it, so it is a toss up of what happens.

>>97869885
>The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already and eventually it will reach wargames
I've seen people try and sell 40k and aos battleforces at prices so high it's actually cheaper to buy all the contents individually straighr from GW. I can only assume these are tcg scalpers trying to dip their toes into doing the same thing for warhammer but being too retarded to figure out what they're actually trying to scalp and why it doesn't work that way.

>>97869885
>>97880380
Scalping has already hit almost every war game. I saw almost a dozen people lined up to buy some box and try to finagle getting the mini of the month so they can "make bank on selling a leader they got for free". People were trying to sell some generic ghoul and space marine for like $35. Some of them got mad because a dude gave me two for being a regular and not a scalper.

>>97880389
There was some chaos dwarf commemorative miniature released a few weeks back that you only got with a 100$+ purchase, but I can't imagine people lining up to scalp the literal 1 ghoul from mini of the month.

>>97880403
That was the weird part. There were no commemorative minis being released. You had some random people there all lining up near the start of the month all trying to get generic mini model that they could sell to "losers" .One got mad when I asked why they were desperate to get a generic grunt ghoul model.I have used the minis of the month to convert into characters before, but these guys thought the basic one model sprue was worth as much as any character.

>>97866950
>from
So what, you left there to go somewhere else because you hate being around indians? Way to share the fucking problem asshole.

>>97880414
no accounting for retards I suppose

>>97869885
The solution to scalping problems is to decentralize card supply.
With services like MPC to print your own the false scarcity and gambling aspects vanish and scalping/theft along with them.
I've got two EDH decks this way, both $80 flat. The one is comprised of cards that, if "real" would make the deck "worth" $10,000 or so, the other is pure fluff fun with Elesh but that card alone is $80.

This "official" mentality with TCG's is a deeply ingrained absurdity. Chess pieces are valid wether purchased or carved by hand, all that matters is that the rules are adhered too, and with the insane power creep of "official" cards like with MtG for about a decade now even that angle could be seriously debated (old community sets respected design space and power scale more than New Thing does)

>>97870043
I always thought fat men were more common than fat women...

>>97880380
>>97880403
>>97880414

This is actually fascinating to read. Because it really makes clear the mindset of the typical scalper. They clearly don’t see the value of what they are trying to resell, nor do they actually understand why others might value it, and they clearly couldn’t be bothered to do any homework prior. To them it’s just a “pump and dump” routine, grab as many of thing you believe to be a “collectible” (or is collectible-shaped) to get a big-ass stockpile and drive up scarcity, start talking up the rarity and potential resale value of the thing you have bought up, to further drive up the price, and then sell them to some sucker for outrageous prices as fast as possible.

Which, funny enough, is basically how all the big speculative market bubbles came about: crypto, NFTs, dot-com, beanie-babies, baseball cards, comic books, the East India Company, etc…

All can be summed up as what happens when you get a cycle of scalpers selling to scalpers to sell to scalpers, with everyone involved moving too fast to actually pay attention to what’s going on.

You’d think someone who is looking to make a living as a reseller would’ve taken at least one economics course at some point, which would’ve likely covered this exact economic phenomena so they don’t fall victim to it. But what do I know? I’m not a reseller.

>>97880688
>with everyone involved moving too fast to actually pay attention to what’s going on
Or alternatively, they're perfectly aware that the whole thing is a pyramid scheme about to come crushing down sooner or later, and they're just gambling to get in, profit, and get out before it does.

>>97880757
That too.

Regardless, with as many times as it’s happened you’d think they’d have learned by now that the best move is to not get caught up in it.

>>97880358
>>No "your dudes" allowed seems to be the go to, as many people outside greybeards want only GW models with no bits of any kind.
i took a break for 20 years and came back to try out kill team. at an LGS, where theres rule in the league your models have to be 75% GW plastic. its just? why? there are a world of models to make, print, and bash.

>>97880853
Play frostgrave or stargrave. Almost the same, but mini-agnostic

>>97880912
i'd rather play anything but GW, its all thats at the store. my fault for living in a small town. stargrave looks pretty cool

>>97880853
>I'd like to play at your LGS with my 37 printed kill teams
>no, I don't plan on buying anything from you
Do you understand why this might not be a good look for you?

My LGS (Alphaspel) has a really cute girl manning the register but I'm too much of an awkward nerd (like everyone else there) to ask her out. Well that, and the whole married thing.

>>97865696
>>97865772
I too have noticed that yugioh is primarily played by blacks.

>>97878933
>>97866858
Ye, that type I know too, they are cool.

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>>97881020
I still can't believe the Konami suspended player list has shit like:
>Jerome Ali
>Banned for assault and unsportsmanlike conduct
Too bad the suspended player list is not public anymore after the 2020 george floyd riots.

>>97879504
Sauce?

There's a fat guy behind the counter, he's very polite and knows a lot. I have never seen another customer in there, no matter the time of day (I pass by daily on the way to work). They have no game nights despite having a room full of boards and tables. They've been in the same location for over 15 years and I have no idea how they stay in business.

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>>97880688
My perspective as a guy pushing 50 modren society has developed a get rich quick mentality. Everywhere you turn there's the mantra of "side hustle" and "passive income". Back in the day you bought things because you enjoyed or needed them. Now everything in some way became a investment instrument. I bought my house in 2004 as a normal home that I'm going to spend the rest of my life in. Now many people buy homes as a three year profit investment or rentals. My one friend bemoans that his house is the only house left in his neighborhood that isn't a rental. The internet and bots shitted up all kinds of markets. I stopped selling my old stuff on ebay due to it not being bought buy fellow players at a nice discount, but by resellers immediately putting my used stuff back up for sale at msrp or greater price.

/grog rant

>>97879613
>Gundam players
the games already out?

>>97880974
nah, i get it. except in the modern world. online shopping exists, model can always be found cheaper than in a brick store, even guaranteeing every model is 100% GW doesnt make them all bought from the store. Plus main support to the store comes from table fees or league fees, yadda yadda. I understand its not a social club and has costs. Hell, i go out of my way to buy all my paint and supplies there. I like the store, i just want my guys to be the coolest i can muster.

>>97881202
Card game is, Wargame not yet.

>>97881313
>i get it
Fuck that, it's a retarded rule, the only thing that would make sense is the rule being
>you have to buy 75% of everything you play in this store, from this store, with receipts to prove it.
The "must be GW" bullshit does not benefit the store as anyone can easily buy 100% of it online, making it financially identical to 100% prints as far as the store is concerned.

>>97881374
Additionally the store can make money from printers by just stocking bottles of resin.

>>97865264
>he doesn't know that the whiny sjws and the fat scalpers are the same exact person
Anyway, don't eat pancakes, you fat fuck.

>>97878452
it's generally considered disrespectful in polite society to rock-up to a place naked and covered in chicken grease.

>>97881374
The only thing that would make sense was to throw out freeloaders that only come to play tßh.

>Walk into local store I hadn't realised existed in this small town, near where I live. Other than that, the closest place is a two hour drive away
>A bunch of fat, not obese 30+ males talking passionately about some game (mix of owners and customers, I think)
>A woman and a man is playing Warhammer, I think Old World, at a table. Seem to be having great fun
>Very nice, welcoming atmosphere
I was pleasantly surprised at how neat it was. They seemed to focus hard on Warhammer and card games, whereas I only really cared about TTRPGs and board games, but other than that it was really nice.

>>97881081
>I have no idea how they stay in business.
There are many ways. First game store I hung out at started because the owners dad worked for GM. The dad died in a accident at the plant so he and his Mom split a $600k wrongful death settlement in 1991. There are two guys locally that make their living through MTG sales. They pop into and out of owning a game store. They buy magic collections to sell online and at conventions. For the past 20 odd years magic is basically their only income. There are nitch stores I know of owned by people that made their money when they were younger. The store is their dream so as long as sales almost cover cost they're happy.

>>97880688
>>97880757
This, it's not that they don't know it's a scam and it's all going to collapse, it's that they think getting caught holding the bag is a skill issue and that they're better than all the past retards who have been bagholders.

>>97881092
>modren society has developed a get rich quick mentality
Happens every time people see their economic future looking like less than what their parents had. Gig culture, hustle culture, constant scamming, and loss of ethical structure are inevitable whenever wealth centralization gets so bad that kids see themselves as unable to afford the lives their parents had for the effort their parents put in. The counterpoint is the ones that don't want to do this shit losing all ambition.

Generally there's a complete breakdown of reciprocal loyalty in there somewhere too.

Personally, i stay away from buying pokemon product. I get a few singles of my favorite mons for my binders, once in a while but that's it.
Ironically, every LGS here runs nothing but pokemon events

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>>97865220
I once saw a literal 500lb man with a bearded woman at my LGS

>>97865220
1/2
Since this is a general LGS thread
>1993-2011
First store I hung out at was a regular game store for its time. 50% was us young people starting the gaming hobby, 50% were grogs that have been gaming since the 70's. It was a time before the culture wars so it was fun with no special bullshit. There were as many games as you wanted to play as everyone played anything that attracted three or more people. The store got bought by three partners after the original owner got tired of the store. The Doctor partner eventually elbowed out the other two and he put his trophy wife in as the manager. The store slowly went down hill until we abandoned it and it went out of business.
>2011-2014
Our group moved to another store that was pretty good. We noticed that the younger players looked at us as oddities. This was due to that we played everthing. RPGs, wargames, boardgames, and some card games. They seemed to pick one aspect of gaming and that was ALL they did, whatever. The store was owned by a partnership. The one guy busted his ass on the store, his partner was less intense and a bit flaky. The flaky partner eventually sold his half to this one waste of oxygen know locally as "grease ball" due to his hair looked like it hasn't seen shampoo in 15 years. Grease ball is a literal NEET that lives off gibs from his parents. His refusal to do anything but cash a share check plus other issues caused the store to go under. The sad part was it was later discovered that the flaky partner never got around to cosigning the loan so the good owner go stuck with it all. Last I knew he us still in hiding from creditors.

>>97881590
2/2
>2014-2020
Our group went to a new store ran by a mother hen. She was left leaning and catered to hipsters but the store was nice and was the cleanest LGS I've ever seen. It did well for itself and wotc even did a couple articles about it. It went out of business due to covid.
>2020-present
There are many stores around but none of them fit my groups fancy. One of the former employees from the first store is the manager of one of them and is actively "trying to get the band back together". It being located in a mall plus bad blood with the general manager means that's not going to happen.

>>97881459
My two closest locals are
>Warhammer shop
>Card shop that recently gutted its wargame selection to save money
Neither of them are my kind of place, but at least they're friendly and filled with good people. I'm glad that they exist too.

>>97881512
So, hubris.

>>97881708
Well, hubris and a small sprinkling of sociopathy. (Improvidence is a trait of sociopaths)

>>97881450
No, having people playing in the store is a living breathing advertisement.
Sell the games your players play, sell the tools they use.
If your locals print, that is tbe market speaking, if the business doesn't listen to that, that's lost profit.
LGS's with wargamers need to sell resin, not ban prints.

>>97881924
Good way to kill your shop.

>>97882201
>selling the things your customers use will kill your business
Sure thing james.

>>97882213
profit margins, nigger

>>97882295
Much more profitable to sell things locals don't buy and ban them for not buying those things.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that I don’t think it is actually bad to let people play with whatever in the store since the stories about these bans happening are the odd ones out, as opposed to the opposite

>>97865264
Just a reminder that TCGs are not a hobby, they are an activity. Hobbies have to be a creative outlet. Mindless consumption is not a hobby.

>>97873936
I hope you raped everyone involved.

>>97875877
Based hope she bangs you.

>>97881512
A lot of crypto is set up that way. They openly sell it as a scam and know it's gonna come crushing down, part of the deal is trying to get in on it first and leave someone else holding the bag
Decaying society btw

>>97883286
With her throbbing gock

>>97883190
Don't tcg autists love figuring out metas and how shit works

>>97881400
Scalpers are guys who failed at NFT and crypto and are currently jumping at AI and the few times they touch politics is sucking Elon Musk's cock and when Trump loosens polymarket gambling

>>97865891
as long as you sell your inventory at a profit, anon, it doesn't matter if you sell it to one turbo autist or a hundred regular autists
sure, long term, a larger number of customers is more sustainable but if the owner's spending as much as he wants to on pokemon cards and selling out of them, he's coming out ahead regardless

>>97869885
>card crooks
is that one on the list

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Maybe the problem will take care of itself?

>>97883190
Deckbuilding is just as creative as list-building in wargames, without throwing hours building and painting a unit only to realise that you don't like how it plays.

>>97884214
>without throwing hours building and painting a unit only to realise that you don't like how it plays
Most people I've played against think I'm weird for occasionally using half-assembled and/or unpainted armies, but I honestly don't want to put in the effort if I don't like how it plays (I can always re-use the unpainted models in other armies or cannibalise them for parts later down the line).
I have YET to regret this.

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All fatties must die

>>97881092
>modern society sees people working more hours for money worth less than ever
>older generations don't even care to know what a dollar really is

>>97881539
>tranny open carry
Haha I'm in danger

*FLGS

>>97878536

They're about to do it in the US, too. The Trump administration is suing private companies for the records of people who've posted negative stuff about ICE online.

>>97865220

My LGS is great
It has a gaming area bigger than most LGSes, with 4 dedicated wargaming tables, plenty of multipurpose tables, and regular events, they also sell drinks and snacks at fair prices.
They even told all the CHUDS to be respectful to everyone or "they would not be missed" a decade before James Workshop did

>>97895956
>reddit spacing
>tranny defense out of nowhere
k troon

>>97896066
yup

>>97879504
I hate this knowledge.

>>97878536
>citizens

Subjects, more like.

>brooklyn LGS
>real old school spot
>playing tcg when I hear a buzzing noise behind me
>the owner is giving a kid a haircut five feet behind me in the middle of the store
>it’s carpeted

>>97884214
deck building doesnt involve painting and list making isnt the hobby part of wargames retard

>>97897113
so RPG's aren't a hobby then either