>>97885004
Catan?

I never played it; I remember being bought the elves versus goblins skirmish box from like wave one when I was like ten, and being confused that it wasn't compatible with my warhammer rules in The Battle for Skull Pass.

I still have an elven archer from the set on top of my fridge.

People say the system was good, I hear that.
But well, when you're an autistic snot nosed prepubescent goblin, learning a new game system that seems totally dissimilar is a big ask.

I am a little sad for guys like you who carried the torch this long.
It's been a long road.

>>97885194
It's not as if the game didn't take off. It sold way better than Fantasy during the period the movies were being released, and the basic uruk hai troops from Helm's Deep even outsold space marine tactical squads the year they came out, which no other set had done. In another timeline it could have become a permanant second pillar for the company, and AOS wouldn't have existed. It had genuine mass market appeal here in the UK.

The main problem they had was that all their non-movie designs sucked and didn't sell, and so the game never grew far beyond its tie-in product roots. The Hobbit movies were bad at a time when GW's post-metal plastic and resin kits were equally bad. It's not interesting to build an army because the factions are so limited. They don't write rules for models they don't still make, and they don't make the models because the game keeps atrophying.

>>97885231
Well, no wonder, since Games Workshop's current business model is about farming out -it's own- IP, not somebody else's.
And thank god.

If Black Library had the publishing rights to Tolkien we'd be ruining Beleriand in the First Age by now, and everybody would be black and transgender, like a latterday MTG set.

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>>97885246
The Black Library publishing business brings in very little money, it's just a form of support for the IP and model sales.

>>97885453
It's a pipeline thing; Black Library is the head of a big retarded snake that scoots around the tank gobbling up old lore like fat crickets, and shitting out snake poop like Necron Neopronouns and female Custodians, that then filters down into the products people actually buy, and eventually builds up 'til people can taste the shit in the gumbo.

>>97885004
what

>>97885246
They actually had an imprint for other IPs called Black Flame publishing

>>97885231
Aos probably wouldn’t have existed but fantasy probably still would have died either way. Also middle earth didn’t really have a future for the simple fact that it wasn’t named lord of the rings the battle grounds or something more recognizable like that.

>>97885004
Such is life. The IP is based on movies that came out 20 years ago, and anything good LotR related since then was just LotR disconnected from the movies while the GW game is tied to them in a way that turned into a burden.
If it was a product line based on original GW designs it would experience a bump in popularity in 2001-2006 and maybe turn into a mainline game, but you can't realistically make a movie tie-in live that long when new move content isn't being made anymore.

>>97885453
> Split out UK and Continental Europe for EVERYTHING but trade
> Don't want to show how much the company relies on NA (aka America)
Pathetic. They just need to move to the US already

>>97885004
It's shit is why.
>Frealaf kills Wulf in Meduseld
>so we'll make it so actually the daughter is a strong independent woman that don't need no man and kills Wulf herself at the Hornburg and then she lives a celibate life killing people, because you know how Eowyn had to cross dress to sneak in to fight? Well actually Rohan has shieldmaidens now
Mediocre.

>>97885751
Was Eowyn 'crossdressing' to fight or rather crossdressing because Theoden ordered her to go back to Meduseld and rule in his stead, and she wanted to go off and die because Aragon rejected her, and if she didn't she would get sent back.
I don't think anything in the book mentioned that she wasn't allowed to fight.

>>97885108
I like to think that whoever took the picture paid for like two hours with the whore, finished in like 2 mins, then had the whore play LOTR with him for the remaining balance.

>>97885004
It does not help that the game plays like ass. It's like a retarded version of 1995 necromunda.

I'm just posting because I like suicide girls.

>>97885760
Eowyn's problem is that she is both a noble and a woman, but thirsts for glory and epic batles (which is the attraction to Aragorn, a larger than life Heroic figure in the books, not the mild-mannered scruff Viggo played). She has to disguise her identity not just her gender to ride with the 100% literally suicidal Theoden, because as Eowyn she has a duty to fulfil in Rohan, but chooses not to (similar to Sam deciding to die with Frodo rather than carry on the quest, which God rewards him for because servants who know their place have value).

The films lacked complexity with the characters. I'd love someone to take another crack at adapting the books more accurately.

>>97886143
There won't be an film that will be able to do it, a prestige series could do it. God knows it will be watched, the only question is who would pay for it (it will cost millions).

>>97885489
Buddy you've got it backwards, the writers are told which models to talk about. Product design takes way longer than shitting out a black library quality novel.

>>97885489
Models are designed before lore is written based on vague requirements and/or concept art before any fiction related to them is written. In cases where BL has written about things that did not exist as model ranges like the mechanicum and adeptus mechanicus and adeptus custodes, BL books ended up being rendered outright wrong by subsequent model kit releases.

The only instances where BL influences model kits is when a model kit of a popular character from a BL novel gets made, generally years after their appearance in a book.

>>97885751


Eowyn literally says she's a shield maiden in the books.

>>97888376
Its more of a title than her being part of an institution. Given the Rohirrim are just Anglo-Saxons its not something you'd see in their society.
If anything it's the Dunlendings who'd have actual shieldmaidens, being relatives of the Haladin(as in literally the same people that juat didn't go west into Beleriand) whom had a long tradition of women at arms arms by the first age.

>>97888376

Doesn't seem like it's more than a name now.

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>>97885004
I think the movie was quite alright. I especially liked the part where they used the eagles to carry the macguffin.

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>>97885004

We can always imagine they have something cool like a big Last Alliance battlebox with new Rivendell, Numenor, and Sauron in plastic in the pipeline for the 25th anniversary of Fellowship this fall.

I bet that would sell like hotcakes too since you'd have fans of the films and people who paint but don't play scooping it up too.

>>97885194

I've wondered if the game would be bigger if they had managed to get a couple hero models into that first starter. I know the plastic tooling was way worse in Y2K but when I played a demo at Gencon it was just elves and goblins slapping at each other when the crux of the game is about how heroes interact with their warrior underlings and manage their might/will/fate points.

>>97885813

Kinda amazing how much novelty tatted up women had in the 2000's. Nowadays it feels like the majority of Millennial women have them. And since you can be an office worker with full sleeves the working class have to get face tattoos to feel like they're rebelling.

>>97891327
I'd buy the shit out of new Last Alliance/Rivendell elves, the recent plastic Elrond (and random banner guy) looks fantastic.

>>97885004
It's a perfectly playable, good game and models are very easy to find both second hand and through 3D printing. Why should I give a fuck about is overall popularity or what GW is doing with it?

>>97885004
why is this gross std ridden whore next to my battle diorama?

>>97892107
Continuing support so it can still be bought easily, mostly.

>>97885004
SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP

>>97885813
I had a friend, female, who went hard down the feminist route and declared "it was time to take suicide girls back from the men whom stole it from the feminists, or words to that effect (she was ugly and probably jealous)
We stopped being friends shortly after. No nigga goes after my alt-hoes

>>97893531

I remember hearing that Missy was a figurehead and the guy she was working with pulling the strings and doing shit like deleting the models' blog posts opposing the Iraq War.

Thank God that era of patriotic hysteria is over.

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>>97885004
>Anyone else sad the system has lost its former popularity and game workshop support?
They did it to themselves.