>>97896470
They just so happen to be a mean and mean-spirited bastard.

>>97896470
It's very simple: He's already evil as fuck. Now he can do evil and be REWARDED for evil.
Imagine a serial killer, but he gets more powerful by murdering people. Or a pedophile who gets more powerful by fucking kids.
At that point, it's doing well while doing good.

>>97896470
Pure selfishness? It says right there. It's a power for brigands and murderers who don't care one whit about other people beyond what they can get from them. These people that will do literally anything for power, and that already are repulsive or persona non grata. What's the downside here?

>>97896470
'Unwilling' is a possibility directly stated in the image you posted.

But for the willing, from a theological view, its a 'short-run over long-run thing' where immediate gain of power and doing-whatever-you-want is prioritized over the eternal damnation in the eventual future. It could be the same sort of arrogance that fuels a lot of bad decisions 'Yes, this turned out bad for that guy, but I'm not him'. It could be vengeful, a person who's given up on their own happiness and wants to sink everyone else to their level.

The common mistake is to see signing on with evil as a philosophical commitment to being an evil-maximizer. The later might be the job description, but that's not how the signee sees it. You can be a prick who's overcommitment to what seems to be in your self interest has lead you to a very bad decision. Or you could want the power without the typical baggage of other philosophic/religious commitments. Or you could be so far down the path of evil you might as well catch a carriage straight to the end.

>>97896470
If your class is such a case that you need to prewarn people not to be cunts as part of the book. Maybe just don't have the class as clearly the intended player for the class is first and foremost just cunts.

>>97896470
Just look at /pol/

>>97896470
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>>97896470
Why indeed...

>>97896775
OP is asking about evil people not retards.

>>97896470
>Disclaimer
>playing a PoCguard is NOT an excuse to misgender other PCs (or even NPCs)!
lel

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>>97896855
Frankly, "retarded evil" works too.
No grand schemes, no long term planning, no thinking though the consequences of your actions besides immediate present (and sometime not even that). No consideration for wants, needs, or feelings of others simply because you don't have mental capacity to think about anyone but yourself. Acting on impulse and taking what you want whenever you want, doing whatever seems most beneficial or most fun at the momen.

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>>97896775
How poignant and original
But you won't get a reddit gold unless you make a clown of DRUMPF the nazi first

>>97896470
There are people who just like using power (either physical or the power of systems or a combination of both) to squish people smaller than themselves. They revel in personal power and depriving other people of the ability to choose for themselves
Not really a complex concept.

>>97896470
Darth Vader
Arthas Menethil
Griffith
I dunno, Dio Brando? Eddie Murphy?

>>97896470
The Dark Lords of my game are dedicated to ontological evil.
>raise up cities of death from the earth regardless of what gets displaced/destroyed
>disturb remains of people and animals, enslave these remains which puts any associated ghost in pain and unrest
>drain mana from the world to expand the dead cities, turning the surrounding land into ashen sands
>kill any living thing they can to enslave their bones for more undead warriors, it doesn't matter if they're a man, woman, baby, or someone's grandma
>can't be negotiated with; anyone fool enough to try to meet them in person will be constantly drained by their aura as the Dark Lord talks in circles and gaslights the would-be liaison

>>97897176
>Darth Vader
Can't really blame him for going to the Dark Side after seeing the lax Jedi Order, the corruption of the Republic, and being fed lies from Palpatine before and after losing the love of his life.

>Arthas Menethil
Is that that gay WoW fag?

>Griffith
I think he was just a dick for the sake of being one; I don't know much about Berserk.

>Dio Brando
Legitimate narcissism combined with gaining almost limitless power, without (from his perspective) any consequence.
In fact, the only thing that led to his downfall was Johnathan's body calling out to his descendants, and him fucking with Holly.

>Eddie Murphy
I'm sorry, what?

>>97896470
>>97896492
>>97896495
These are like 75% of what bad guys who fall into these categories should be. Either people who are so evil that some evil power fountain is exactly what they are looking for, or people who want power so much that pulling power from "absolute evil" is appealing to them.
>>97897176
>Darth Vader
>Arthas Menethil
These types of characters drink from a fountain labelled "evil power" with generally good intentions (they want the power to do good, not so much for themselves) and then are surprised when the power literally makes you evil.

The problem with these sorts of characters is that the entire fall is predicated on them not really understanding the evil power they are calling on. If the consequences were fully explained to them, they would both have made different decisions. Instead they arrogantly assumed that they would be the exception- Anakin could USE the dark side instead of becoming just some avatar of it, Arthas could USE the sword without it taking his sword.

These stories are fine, but the heroes becoming villains because of them are very similar. I think you don't want to overuse this type of thing.

There's another heroic idea- this power, this evil crown, is gonna sit on someone's head, and it better be YOU because you won't be nearly as bad as the other guy. And of course there's the rarest type of ontological evil dedicant- the one that believes that ontological evil is, itself, worthy of victory. The man with this belief is incorrect and likely insane, but that's definitely within the human spectrum of beliefs.

>>97898544
I kind of get your point but at the same time
>Anakin could USE the dark side instead of becoming just some avatar of it
>Arthas could USE the sword without it taking his soul.
No... no they couldn't.... also they generally didn't know they were drinking from the evil power well. The prequals aren't great but Anakin was too young to understand how the dark side makes you evil and requires that you draw upon rash spikes of emotion even when you aren't using it for sketchy things and Arthas's corrupting journey was BEFORE he picked up frostmorn not after. It's not like Ner'zhul had to do much corrupting after he was raised into a death knight. Arthas's journey was a morally questionable but pragmatic decision that lead him down a slippery slope of less and less pragmatic decisions as he pursued a revenge quest in blind rage, to the point where by the time he picked up frostmorn he was basically dead already. Maybe if he knew what would happen after the culling of Stratholme he wouldn't have gone on that expedition but once he picked up frostmorn it would have taken nothing short of beaming the knowledge of what happens next into his brain and making him believe it to make him put the sword down.

>>97896470
also as an answer to the thread question:
Generally because they're Evil.

>>97898830
>No... no they couldn't
Correct, that's my point. They each BELIEVED that they could. And they were wrong. The gimmick in both cases is the same- they are both too arrogant to realize that they are damning themselves.

With Arthas, you are meant to become less comfortable with his decisions, but in each case you can argue- at first easily- that he's making a decision for the greater good, that slaughtering a few peasants will stop a plague that will kill a thousand times that number, etc.

I just think that characters that follow this path do so in a predictable way that the readers or viewers enjoy, but I think it's not the sort of thing you would expect to happen all that much. Both of these characters are world changers too- the smaller version of this, some level 8 dreadknight or whatever wouldn't be nearly so interesting if this was his path.

>>97898830
>Generally because they're Evil

And to this one in particular, I don't think this is enough of a reason. A bandit who robs from you is evil, but he probably doesn't primarily worship an evil god. In many cases he might plan to quit his evil ways once he's achieved enough of whatever he wants- probably enough money. Such a scoundrel will murder you just the same, but even though he's evil, he's unlikely to seek out something like The Dark Side or some evil artifact that everyone knows consumes your soul but also lets you murder better. He'd run from such things, even though he's evil, because he's not *into being evil*.

I think that's the gist of OP- these aren't evil characters, these are characters who are willing to draw from the concept of evil, the being-ness of evil itself. A character that will take everything you have because he wants things is evil. A character that will take everything you have because it advances the cause of evil is something much weirder.

>>97899001
At what point does a normal evil man that is just a greedy cunt that feels no shame about the selfish things he does become a devil on a philosophical level if not a literal one? Like at what point does hell suddenly recognize one of its own when it gazes on a mortal man and starts gifting him vile powers of darkness and murder?

Like at what point does a bandit chief have to reach in his profession before he unexpectedly meets the devil on a dark crossroads at midnight with a dark deal he would like said scumbag to sign in his own blood? Or a serial killer just randomly starts getting stronger and more deadly with each ritual kill he makes from now on for no reason other than he had killed one too many people so now he has dark powers?

What and where is the line you have to cross before evil just sees you as worth the investment to turn you into a superhuman killing beast?

>>97899099
~75milihitlers

>>97898983
>>97899001
oh I see what you mean, although its less arrogance and more naivety as they chase some righteous but ultimately selfish desire.(Anakin wanting to protect his wife and child forever and Arthas wanting revenge against Mal'Ganis for Strathholme)

A bandit who robs from you but might reasonably turn their life around or at least stop killing people when they have a lavish life more than likely leans towards neutral even if they are evil, but perhaps consider the bandit who is purely evil and has no intention of changing their ways. Kind of like the first example listed in the character examples for the blackgaurd in OP's picture.

>>97899108
0.075 Hitler?

>>97899157
yes 0.075 hitler, with lower case h because unit of a measurement (as opposed to capitalized H for the specific person)

>>97899224
Okay, but is 1 hitler equivalent to Hitler?

>>97896470
Spite, being in the winning team, thinking "the other side" is worse, etc etc.

>>97899234
Approximately, based on best-effort estimate and adjusted for inflation.

>>97899261
>adjusted for inflation
Maximum over-kek
You just made my day with that one.

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>>97896470
It is easier for moralfags to imagine someone following inverse morality than it is to imagine someone who is not at all bound by morality. Some even insist that they (or all people) are permanently enslaved to these intangible "ideals".

>>97899366
>lots of extra words to say "evil"
Learn brevity.

>>97899412
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