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Former GW CEO Tom Kirby may have bragged that they do no market research but they are an extremely data-driven company that pays a great deal of attention to which products are selling and which ones aren't. To that end, they treat 40k and Horus Heresy as two discrete brands with discrete product lines, and while customers might buy one to proxy for another, those sales are tabulated strictly for their respective product line.

So what do you suppose is going to happen when people keep on buying 40k Custodian Guards instead of the new HH Sodalities? Do you think Games Workshop is going to look at that sales data and conclude, "wow, making a gender equitable kit of barely human homunculoid super soldiers was a real value add to our bottom line - we should do it for all our products!""

Or do you think they're going to conclude that, just like when Alan Merritt was forced to pull the female knights and wizards from Citadel's production roster in the 80s, their customers don't want them and it's not worth doing just to prove their progressive bona fides?

Because I think that the decision's already made. GW wasn't even committed enough to this particular bit to put females in all the new Custodes kits. Venatarii don't have a single boobplate among them.

People are going to keep on using the 40k minis because the only ones that want ten-foot-tall muscle mommies are the terminally coom-brained and ideological subversives who are only here to ruin another brand before moving on to the next.

You might see this as a victory for the progs because they finally got their way and femstodes finally have miniatures. Hell, you might be a gay race communist and think this is a big W over the chuds, but the fact is that this is at best pyrrhic victory. Trannies and their enablers have gotten what they want and now the whole world will see that nobody else does.

Screenshot this post, there will be no new female Custodes going forward. See you in 2027.
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You lost the 40 warhammer threads in the catalog?
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>>97914440
Imagine giving this much of a fuck about custodes. I'd understand this type of spergout if they did this to space marines or added men to sororitas, but over custodes?
>inb4 "but the sisters of silence were supposed to be the girls and the custodes were supposed to be the boys because uuhhhhh that's what my headcanon says"
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>>97914440
Your post will age badly because that’s just how it is.
I want to be wrong.
Anyways I’m doing my part in not buying custodes of any kind.
I think gw did the femstodes to throw a bone to “that performative crowd.” Used to be that sororitas were the explanation but now custodes had to be on the sacrificial alter for them.
Best thing to do is not buy them.

What many don’t want to accept is that male is about as integral to the 40k space marine as being a black African is integral to The Black Panther superhero.
It is what it is and changing that would be a mistake.

Anyways OP.
There will be pol chuddies that will come into threads like this and pretend to be bad left leaners. Threads like this are blood in the ocean and they’re sharks at smelling that stuff.
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>>97914620
I have long since stopped giving much of a fuck about W40K but I know how heavy the lore was (is) in that game so it is perfectly understandable that people would get pissed about retards being in charge of the lore.

>"But it doesn't matter."
Well clearly it does..
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>>97914620
If it matters enough to change, it matters.
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>>97914440
Cool cool. Care to post your minis?
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I look forward to Custodes going the way of Dark Eldar in the future because once you make the first female Custodes there will always be female Custodes.
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From my perspective GW could freely close their doors today and I would abaolutly give no fucks. Why? I have so many minis at home to paint, books to read, old editions and missions to play that I have enough for my entire life. Plus the new lore is pure garbage so I am not even bothering to follow.
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>>97914620
If it doesn't matter, why change it?
If you don't care, let me win.
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>>97914620
this isn't about female custodes its about female marines retard
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>>97914440
Custodes look like that? Maybe it's time to start an army.
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>>97915763
Sure. Now let's see yours.
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>>97916649
Nice colletion bro.
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>>97916794
Thanks. There's a little more gray in it than I'd like, but I fine it helps to keep the backlog in sight and in mind, rather than hidden in s figure case.
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>>97914679
>What many don’t want to accept is that male is about as integral to the 40k space marine as being a black African is integral to The Black Panther superhero.
Are there more examples of this sort of thing?
I think the biggest reason it became male only was primarily because the power armored females (even if they were just adventurers) did not sell well.
Some like to say it is because of sexism and I think that may have played a part.
>but
Even by oldhammer sculpt standards those models are pretty awful.
I don't think the GW sculptors ever could sculpt a proper female face to save their lives.
Not even looking for super model or animu female faces. I don't think they can.
And probably aren't allowed to by executives nowadays if I'm being honest.
>>97916649
>Now let's see yours.
He won't post them. You've won this battle. You've beaten him if those really are your models.
You've now given a troll a schizo obsession. For better or worse you will be obsessed over now.
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>>97914679
>What many don’t want to accept is that male is about as integral to the 40k space marine as being a black African is integral to The Black Panther superhero.
Funny you say that, since marvel went and made black panther white and it's apparently the most interesting run the superhero ever had.
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>>97914440
So has the current CEO ever said they aren't a data driven company. Because who gives a fuck about what a former CEO said, what, a decade ago.
/Thread
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>>97917194
>marvel went and made black panther white
That was a stupid choice. I'm sure some fans reacted negatively to that choice.
>it's apparently the most interesting run the superhero ever had.
That's actually funny in a morbid way.

Not the first time Marvel made a bad choice.
Remember the New Warriors thing?
That stuff is beyond "so bad it is good." To me it is "so bad it is inspirational."
It was insulting to the targeted audience and the writers had good intentions all the way through and somehow made a bigger insult than any actual bigot could come up with.

Admittedly a big driving force to have female space marines is just activists that want to spite their chud boogeyman instead of making a real difference. Which I think is just disappointing as they're just crazy bad examples chuds can point at to make fence sitters look at and sympathize with chud stuff.
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>>97916649
Why don't you post stuff in a photo taken this fucking year.
> Grey plastic in his display case
Yikes
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>>97917229
Let's. See. Yours.
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Haha remember when they said Wraithbone was actually an alloy of metals and minerals? That came out in the same period as female Custodes.
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>>97914620
>femboy sororitas
I’d buy
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>>97914620
>I’d understand this much of a spergout if they added men to Sororitas
No? That would be awesome. We could get handsome zealous hunks and twinks. That would be really cool.
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>>97914620
>added men to sororitas
This has already been done with male inquisitors/priests.
This is kind of being done with inserting women into space marine boxes but not as female space marines.
That Lotara Sarin character is probably the biggest example.
>>97917441
>We could get handsome zealous hunks and twinks.
We won't get that, anon.
Attractive faces are probably mandated by executives to not be done.
I don't know why.

>>97917303
He won't post models with a timestamp. I will be proven right.
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Models are fucking stupid and a lower barrier to entry than actually reading the lore.

You are both trannies.
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>>97917575
Who are you talking to?
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>>97917653
Me, myself, and I, and those other two.
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>>97914679
>I think gw did the femstodes to throw a bone to “that performative crowd.” Used to be that sororitas were the explanation but now custodes had to be on the sacrificial alter for them
And like SoB before them, Custodes will eventually not be enough.
FeMarines in a decade at most.
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Isn't the huge backstab of deleting legends in 11th worse than femstodes ?

Boobs armour is stupid for Custodes, that's neither their function in the imperium or their lore of philosophical warriors.
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>>97919814
Battle Sisters were never for the genderqueers, they've always been coded as bondage fetish nuns. For the male gaze, as the femoids might say.

Femstodes are a "safe" way to introduce female marines because they've never been explicitly forbidden by the lore. Sure, the Custodes have been referred to as men elevated through arcane geno-alchemy to become the Emperor's companions, but to the mind of a subversive "man" is just a race, it's the Imperium of Man, you can have male and female men.

Except that it's not safe at all and in fact invited a huge backlash. Games Workshop takes years to bring a product to market and what may have seemed like a great idea to pander to the screeching leftoids five years ago is suddenly looking a lot more like a rake they didn't need to step on, today.

Games Workshop is a business, they're trying to make money - and if the cost of placating the blue-haired progressives is more than they'd stand to make on a given product, you can bet what they'll be prioritizing on the next one.

Their cultural moment is over, the progs overplayed their hand and now everyone is tired of exhibitionist queers forcing you to participate in their autogynephilic fantasy lives. Games Workshop is actively pivoting back to the shit that people are nostalgic for from thirty years ago, they're not going to die on the progressive hill just because freelancers like Aaron Dembski-Bowden and Mike Brooks want to be subversive. Not when there's a dollar value consequence associated with it.

If they were smart, they would have left it a choice in the hands of their hobbyists; include female heads but make the models otherwise indistinguishable from one another, like they've done with the Cadians and Votann. But, no, they just had to indulge the fetishists and put an equal number of narrow-waisted boobplates in the box and now the new Custodes will forevermore be the genderqueer kit, while normal people can just carry on using the 40k Custodian Guard.
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>>97920422
>Battle Sisters were never for the genderqueers, they've always been coded as bondage fetish nuns. For the male gaze, as the femoids might say.

I should buy a SoB army.
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>>97920422
>what may have seemed like a great idea to pander to the screeching leftoids five years ago is suddenly looking a lot more like a rake they didn't need to step on, today
You say that, but companies like GW and WotC run on people writing the constant stream of tiny lore blurbs. The only people who would spend 5 years of studying english literature only to take a "creative writing" job that pays less than a barista are people who care about making a difference.
It won't matter if investors demand that they pivot to profitability when the enployees are willing to lie about what will be profitable.
And if they don't care about their actual salary being profitable they sure as hell won't care about the company profits
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>>97917441
Why do you think there would be twinks?
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>>97917303
Hello? Helllloooooooo?????
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>>97921239
>tiny lore blurbs
Not quoted but honestly the worst part about modern GW is those tiny lore blurbs.
On the WFHB side Cathayans that have a ton of potential, where I could come up like ten different options just off the top of my head, to be cool are written like disney people without the charm.
And on the WFRP side you have Cubicle7 vacillating between telling you your goal ought to be progressiveness and shoving in black imperials nobles and caricatures of that black dwarf from Rings of Power.
Frankly if they keep on going like this I can see people start dropping out.
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>>97921672
>Chinese people are averse to depictions of skulls and bones
>Chinese people get upset if they are depicted as dirty, smelly and ignorant like everybody else
>Chinese people will not buy this product no matter how they are pandered to

Trying to pander to the Chinese market, was a mistake.

Cathay literally aren't allowed to be interesting, for the same reason Araby never became a fully fleshed out faction.
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>>97921990
The thing is that isn't really true. You'd just have to rip-off their own pulp novel/webnovel stuff. You have tons of dark fantasy takes on their own culture, most of them better than modern GW stuff.
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>>97921990
>Trying to pander to the Chinese market, was a mistake.
Yes, but not for the reasons you think. China doesn't care about GW's intellectual property, if there's a demand for tabletop miniature wargaming in PRC then they'll just steal it and make their own. This is a huge problem in the Gunpla hobby right now because it is absolutely awash with Chinese bootlegs that are actually pretty good, but are not primarily intended for export and so cut Bandai out of the loop entirely.

They'll do the same to GW, although I wouldn't assume that they aren't already. Forge World basically jumpstarted the Chineacast industry when they tried outsourcing there in 2010 and GW has been paying the price for it ever since. Trying to court China as a "legitimate" market is a wasted effort.
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>>97922003
And none of it would mesh with Warhammer aesthetically or thematically, and the end result would be grey slime.

>>97922219
That also, but I thought the Chinese contempt for Western intellectual property was so obvious it could go unstated.
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>>97922403
>And none of it would mesh with Warhammer aesthetically or thematically
Honestly most of it probably fits in fine. They have their grotesque ones with the undead, the ones where it's all grimdark, the ones where the emperor is just weak or supernaturally evil or only cares about grain/swords/'leylines' and every governor and general is actually a petty warlord etc.
Really I can think of a dozen ways. Including less AoS-y monster units and warriors.
Instead they seem to have decided on Disney / Tau.
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>>97922462
I feel like Xianxia influences would bleed in and make it a "Superhero" faction if the Chinese had their way.
Hence my presumption of basic thematic incompatibility.
Their storytelling traditions kinda suck balls imo; I tire of their omnipotent infallible protagonists.
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>>97922552
>I tire of their omnipotent infallible protagonists.
Doesn't sound like you've read any desu.
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>>97917303
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>>97921639
Once again, the people bitching about /pol/ "invaders" are shown to be the invaders themselves.
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>>97922614
In truth?
No, I was always turned off by the blurb on the back or the tv tropes page.
Y'know when you see something and you just know "this is not for me".
It's foreign to me.
Literally.
Also I have a probably more grounded understanding that I'm not going to understand a lot of Chinese cultural references, which will make a lot of shit seem absurd and out of context.
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>>97914620
>added men to sororitas
Heard of the Frateris Militia, tourist?
>my headcanon
My headcanon is based on 40 years of "sons". What is yours based on, Jew?
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>>97922895
Many such cases. It's all about demoralization, they don't actually care if you have models or not but they know that YOU care - which is why the attack changed from "post models" to "eww unpainted models" the moment >>97916649 actually did. They want you to feel bad about your hobby because a shamed hobbyist is a compliant hobbyist.
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>>97916649
>Smurfs, IW, and greytide
Booo.
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>>97922924
>Y'know when you see something and you just know "this is not for me".
I mean that's fine. I wasn't really into it when I started either and I know a lot of people who love cape comics while they do nothing for me.

Just saying they're not really omnipotent or infallible at all so that's a misunderstanding of the genre. Even their whacko power fantasy (which exist but are not the majority) ones don't go quite that far.
Think less "superheroes" novels and more pulp fantasy. With pulp protagonists, and that includes good guys, douchebags, amoral picaresques and outright villains. (even a few i'd characterize as misery porn)

If xianxia is high-powered (and it doesn't really have to be, as long as it's focused on "immortal cultivation" that usually means xianxia) they often change the 'landscape' as it were to were everyone is and the protags are usually on the lower-end to keep the stakes going.
It's actually a trope of theirs that once you get powerful enough you move to another bigger place (another region, another realm, an upper domain what have you) where they're stronger than the protags and there's better resources to be had.

Pretty common to see them start in basically the WFRP equivalent of starting out as a particularly poor and backwards Stirlander or Breton peasant before they get to start mucking up Ulthuan.
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>>97923117
Thanks, it's the autism.
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>>97920422
>Their cultural moment is over, the progs overplayed their hand and now everyone is tired of exhibitionist queers forcing you to participate in their autogynephilic fantasy lives.

People keep saying this is the case, but the last time I went to an LGS, the entire staff was trans and wore masks. In 2026.
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>>97922552
It’s a 40k imperium army already with primarchs galore. But yeah any direction they go with Cathay is bound to be dogshit.
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>>97928866
LGSes are going away, dude. They hire whoever's cheap.
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>>97928866
Sorry your local store's infested with brain worms, not many other places are in remission. I live in a major metro and even the coffee shops have pulled from their pride flags and disallowed pronoun pins. The virtue signal is costing too much money.

You want to see circumstances change at your FLGS, stop shopping the. The problem will correct itself.
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>>97930468
>The virtue signal is costing too much money.
It's impressive how quickly the Pride parades stopped happening after USAID was ousted.
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>>97929888
>LGSes are going away, dude. They hire whoever's cheap.
Will there be a resurgence in the LGS by any chance?
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>>97932398
I'd love if that were the case, but the problem with your average LGS is that in a lot of cases it's a money pit. That can be self-reinforcing, depending on how the shop is run, but more often than not a poorly performing LGS is poorly run, and a poorly run LGS will perform poorly so it's difficult to break out of the death spiral.

I'm fortunate to have a number of independent retailers in my local area and they exhibit a wide variety of management styles and clienteles. The most stereotypical genderqueer store is supported almost entirely by MTG and other card games where their regular draft tournaments are a license to print money and a sideline on loose cards pads the ledger. The owner is a default liberal of the milquetoast variety, but hired one bluehair and all of a sudden his entire staff was riddled with revolutionary leftists and the windows filled with pride flags and MAP-normalizing slogans. The stores seem to be doing well enough, but I stopped shopping there regularly years ago and the last time I stopped in, they'd stopped carrying hobby stuff entirely to focus entirely on card games and Funko Pops. It sucks because BSI still had them listed as a retailer and I really needed a bottle of CA, but I guess the tranny MTG community is more lucrative than toy soldier enthusiasts.

Contrast with some of the other more mainstream stores, the ones that carry family board games are all completely bereft of gender ideology messaging. There are two, admittedly farther out into the 'burbs, that specifically disallow the kind of low-standard conduct that the wormy progs thrive on; they enforce uniform and grooming standards on their employees so you can't wear your pride shirt on the clock, you've gotta wear a store branded T. Consequently, their staffs skew significantly more normal - still no doubt in my mind that they hate the Orange Man, but they aren't attending Antifa rallies in their free time. I prefer to shop there despite the distance.
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>>97914620
>I'd understand this type of spergout if
no you wouldn't because you are a disingenuous faggot that would say the same no matter what
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>>97932971
>but the problem with your average LGS is that in a lot of cases it's a money pit
This entire hobby is a money pit. Maybe most hobbies nowadays are.
>a poorly run LGS will perform poorly so it's difficult to break out of the death spiral.
Do you know of any LGS that broke out? How did it do it?
>but hired one bluehair and all of a sudden his entire staff was riddled with revolutionary leftists and the windows filled with pride flags and MAP-normalizing slogans.
How does this happen generally?
>stopped shopping there regularly years ago
>I prefer to shop there despite the distance.
Glad you took your money elsewhere.
If the LGS near me falls into this spiral and I take my money elsewhere, but have no other place to game what advice is there to not exist in a problematic manner that will piss off these types?
I know minimizing contact with those types is vital, but it is more complicated than that.
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>>97933426
Money pit in the sense that you dump more money into it than it makes, not that it's a discretionary expense like a hobby - although a lot of people do still tend to treat their stores as a hobby project. Most of the people that I know who do it professionally have an alternative source of income. It's exceptionally difficult to live comfortably as the owner of a single-location speciality retailer. Guys with military disability/pension are common, as are trust fund kiddies who don't have to worry about paying their own bills. The one person I know who made a go of it without his own outside source of income still has his wife's job to support the household, so it's not like he won't make rent at the end of the month if the store's not doing well.

I don't know anyone who has successfully broken out of a death spiral, but I know a lot of stores have gone out of business as a result. Even without an ideological thumb on the scale, it's real easy to wind up running your store badly and alienating your customers. There are a lot of people that get into the FLGS game but forget the F because they're really not in a retail mindset, they just want a clubhouse for them and their friends to hang out and you won't make money if you don't want to deal with customers. It's still a job and normies, especially, catch the vibe if the staff is disinterested when you walk in. Don't do the GW hard sell thing, but you've gotta at least acknowledge people as they walk in the door and make sure they find what they're looking for - not play Magic with your buddies and pretend not to work there. It also helps to control shrink from shoplifting.

As far as bluehair infiltration goes, it's really quite simple; if you already have a clubhouse problem, then all of their friends will start hanging out and it's a real easy mistake to make to just hire on whomever happens to be hanging around the shop. You can very quickly wind up with them completely taking over the store.
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>>97914620
>Imagine giving this much of a fuck about custodes
I know, I don't know why these subversive freaks cared so much that they absolutely demanded there had to be female custodes. These gender studies people are weird I just want to play with my little plastic men.
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I don't care. Femstodes are hot.
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>>97934177
They're not even hot, though, that's the thing. The same people demanding female Space Marines and such are also the ones who throw a fucking childish tantrum of any of them are remotely sexy. They have to be ugly, fat, mannish bulldykes or else something something male gaze something toxic masculinity something my soggy knees.

The femstodes look like granite-jawed men in wigs, they're absolutely hideous.
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>>97934200
Forgot your pic.
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>>97920422
>but to the mind of a subversive "man" is just a race
Firstly, that's not a subversive take, "man" is the correct contraction for human/humanity/humankind, the actual problem in English was created when some dipshit decided that we would modify the term "man" using the previous word for "wife" when referring to females but not do the same for males and instead just use "man" unaltered, creating centuries of confusion.

Secondly, it still doesn't work in this case no matter how hard progtrogs try and twist things, because explicitly gendered language beyond just "man" was used to refer to Custodes on multiple occasions. It's a retcon, everyone knows it's a retcon, just admit it's a fucking retcon.
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>>97934177
>>97934200
I don't know which dubs are true help
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>>97934200
the funny thing is when they showed the femstodes models i didn't realize they were even supposed to be women, i thought they went for the "anime spearman with ponytail" look
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>>97936596
>Final Fantasy VII reference
Opinion discarded. Begone, Millennial.
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>>97916649
You have to be a massive fag to have nothing but Space Marines (and a few Knights?). Some real "still mentally 14" energy.
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>>97920422
>freelancers like Aaron Dembski-Bowden
He is currently the in-studio head of lore/narrative, you ingrate retard.
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>>97937795
Sounds like the onus was on him to educate himself.
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>>97935017
I mean sisters heads have a few that are salvageable, but most are not really an improvement from the old He-man heads of the metal models.
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>>97937255
You can thank Gamergate for that. Leftoid intrusion into nerd spaces in 201Xs resulted in an entire cohort of previously apolitical nerds radicalizing against them. Most were totally unprepared to engage with the subversive left because they had never picked up the tools of rhetoric before, but learned quick after being repeatedly bludgeoned with the old standbys of ad hominem, strawman and no true Scotsman.

Then at about the same time that the right figured out how to fight back, the left declared debate with their ideological adversaries to be a cardinal sin and started refusing to even listen to a contrary idea. No longer encumbered with the need to prove their intellectual superiority, anti-intellectualism became the prevailing non-argument and variations of, "you sound like a dweeb," (kissing cousins to, "why do you care," and, "it doesn't matter") became the default response.
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>>97934200
>>97935017
All of GW's models are ugly as hell except Eldar. Even then it's 50/50.
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>>97937723
>Some real "still mentally 14" energy.
Yeah dude, and those are the people who buy models, and they don't want girls in their wargame.

Sucks to suck, deal with it you gay nerd
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>>97937879
>anti-intellectualism
Is it even anti-intellectualism when the things you are rejecting are just retarded shit.
I recall decades ago arguing with a professor about the Tabula rasa theory. The theory is so retarded that only someone that has never interacted with the real world could come up with such stupidity. Basic studies of twins could at the very list question the theory.
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>>97916649
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/2807124478
LITERALLY SWIPED FROM AN EBAY LISTING LOL
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>>97938353
>https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/2807124478
>Blatantly lying in a desperate attempt to gotcha somebody while being retarded enough to think no one would check the link.
Kill yourself immediately.
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>>97937743
He is? Then GW is worse off for his presence. His ideas are retarded and I'm pretty sure he's a faggot. Also he used to tripfag on here as someone named Baron von Evil Satan or someshit, IIRC.
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>>97938353
>>97938407
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>>97938407
>>97938509
he literally deleted the listing lmao
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>>97938696
Good thing you took a screenshot of it first, then.

You did take a screenshot of it first, right? To prove that it's real and you're not telling lies on the internet?

Because it seems awfully convenient that in the less than ten minutes and thirty seconds between when you posted the listing and someone called you a liar, that it would be deleted. Makes it seem like >>97916649 is some kind of critical mastermind that's one step ahead of you
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>>97938696
>>he literally deleted the listing lmao
So they're his models regardless? I mean even if you're right here, the fact that he has some models he wants to sell on ebay for some reason doesn't mean he isn't a part of the 40k hobby.
I think you just don't like it when people criticize femstodes, most likely because you're a leftist faggot who should kill himself immediately.
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>>97938353
>>97938696
What the hell kind of eBay listing shows a photograph of an entire fully stocked display case and not the models being sold?
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>>97937879
There has never been a time where the majority of people in nerd spaces were right wing, and there has NEVER been a time where the majority of the writers and artists making the things collected and utilized by those spaces were right wing. This ahistorical cope is so funny because it's such an obvious fucking lie. The right has never built or populated any worthwhile creative subculture in the entirety of the 20th and 21st centuries.
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I understand that there's some skepticism about my collection, which is totally understandable. Nobody could possibly have two whole Space Marine armies and a whole bunch of unpainted minis... and while I have rearranged some figures since the last time I photographed my case, I think if you look closely, you'll see that there's a hidden message that proves its authenticity.

Still waiting to see >>97915763's.
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>>97914620
NEVER give these subhuman locusts a fucking inch or your hobby/interest will be DESTROYED.
>Western AAA vidya
>D&D
>Magic
>Trek
>fucking STAR WARS
How many times do you retarded faggots need to learn this simple lesson?
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>>97939478
Pretty sure there are a number of noteworthy rightwing personalities that are publicly on record as having just wanted to play video games, so no idea where you're getting "the majority of people" from that.

But, hey, maybe you've got some specific examples in mind of noteworthy leftists that have emerged from the last decade of cultural warfare? Mike From PA, maybe?
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>>97940009
>ut, hey, maybe you've got some specific examples in mind of noteworthy leftists that have emerged from the last decade of cultural warfare?

what about that guy that fucks horses, one of them seemed noteworthy
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>>97940009
It's crazy how wrong he is but also he's clarly bad faith so I'm not gonna take the bait. Overall though it's always seemed to me like right wingers build the cultural platforms that left wingers have to stand on to make their shit work.
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>>97940307
I don't know that I agree with that. I think GW is a great example of a bunch of default liberal Labour voters from the Midlands who nonetheless managed to build a setting that appeals across ideologies because so much of it had been so timeless.

You see that a lot in British cultural contributions. Alan Moore famously hates how much everyone loves Rorschach, since he wrote him to be a cardboard cutout of a rightwing reactionary - but also incidentally wrote him to be the only morally consistent character in Watchman who goes out like a champ because he refuses to compromise his principles in the face of obliteration, and gets the last laugh by sending all of the evidence to the press (even if it is left ambiguous whether it ever gets taken seriously).

Ditto with Judge Dredd, who Wagner wrote to be a literal fascist but who still carries an entire franchise because his adversaries are all so much worse.
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>>97914440
No, they look at the statistics and see 70% of all purchases in our economy is done by females. So the biggest growth potential is to pivote your company to selling to women, Games movies lit everything. They have been doing it for like 20 years
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>>97940009
...what?

Commentariat grifters are not representative of the people in nerd spaces or the creators creating for them. In fact they are one of the most obvious possible examples of people barging unwanted into a space they have no bonafides in and using it as culture mill grist. You see this constantly with how often right wingers botch 40k lore (including in the specific case of Custodes, where ~4 extremely recent citations about Custodes being male are inaccurately elevated as longstanding or vital lore)
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>>97940660
>people barging unwanted into a space they have no bonafides in and using it as culture mill grist
I've seen Sargon's models so I know he's a real hobbyist. So, on the subject of bona fides, I'd say that puts the right winger with the YouTube channel's pretty far ahead of yours.

Regardless, I'm not impressed by rightwing purity testing. Grummz can spell "orc" wrong and that doesn't make his opinion on the genderqueers coming for Orks any less valid because it was right on the heels of Nate Crowley making Ghazghkull Thraka a they/them with his stupid aside about Ork reproductive anatomy.

Custodes had, right up until tenth edition, been referred to as exclusively male going all the way back to Rogue Trader, which had this to say about them:

>The Adeptus Custodes is the Emperor's inner guard, the members of which are privileged in being permitted to serve upon the Emperor, attending to his needs, receiving and recording his directions. These men never leave Earth and only rarely leave the Imperial Palace - an endless, black hive of forbidden technology and subterranean passages delving deep within the bowels of the planet.

Not men and women. Not the sons and daughters of Imperial nobles. Not androgynous asexual aromantic genderfluid enbies. Men. If Vara Dark or fucking Nerdrotic get it wrong because they're more into Star Wars than 40k, I don't particularly care; they are correct in the way that matters, even if they don't understand the distinction between an Astartes and a Custodes.

So, yeah, it's longstanding enough to have been in the first printed rulebook for 40k, you fucking parasite. Get the fuck out of here with your false flagging faggotry, you don't know shit because you're just another locust that's come into my hobby to tell me I'm enjoying it wrong. Fuck you.
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>>97914440
I like ten foot tall muscle mommies, but I like them to fap to, I don't want them in my 40k.
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>>97939478
It's not about who was in the majority, it was about how rabid people were about politics in those "nerd spaces" as you call them. And during/after the mid-2010s, the left/liberals/progressives/whateverelseyouwannacallem, got really fucking rabid indeed.
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>>97914440
>So what do you suppose is going to happen when people keep on buying 40k Custodian Guards instead of the new HH Sodalities?
I don't generally entertain insane impossible scenarios. You're going to get enough head options to just not put on the female heads, people will still buy the new sculpts.
>Or do you think they're going to conclude that, just like when Alan Merritt was forced to pull the female knights and wizards from Citadel's production roster in the 80s, their customers don't want them and it's not worth doing just to prove their progressive bona fides?
They just put out that fugly female commissar on a floating platform, they're not going to stop doing this retard virtue signaling of putting ugly women where people don't want them.
> Venatarii don't have a single boobplate among them.
Sister of Battle are the exception, not the rule. They generally don't do boobplate armor for "generic" unit types, it's usually just a head swap with the classic Citadel style ugly manish head.
>Screenshot this post, there will be no new female Custodes going forward. See you in 2027.
we literally just got some, and are probably getting more soon. You're going to have a melty when they show off the black woman alpha legion character that's slated to come out eventually.
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>>97940945
It's not your hobby (never has been). Won't ever.
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>>97941006
The right was activated in the culture war before the left was (partly because the left had and has a dominant grip on art, pop culture, and everything creative medium). Talk radio in the 90s and Fox News post-millennium were the first waves of people "becoming rabid about politics in other spaces."

But there weren't many right wingers in nerd spaces to begin with, so those spaces did not become right wing. Eventually as the culture war heated up and everyone was forced to take a side the people who were already in nerd spaces took up for the left.

Games, nerds spaces, fandoms, whatever gay way you want to categorize it require and reward curiosity, creativity, empathy, imagination and other qualities that are completely absent from the right wing mind. Right wingers were never part of those scenes, largely due to lacking the intellectual/behavioural capacity for them in the first place.
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>>97940530
Except that ignores some very obvious important things, namely, women aren't interested in miniature wargaming and by and large they never will be. GW's audience is overwhelmingly male, and appealing to them is the only reasonable path forward.
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>>97941503
0/10 Seriously, 0/10. This is blatantly obvious trolling and you should be ashamed for posting it.
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>>97941477
>can't refute any point
>won't post models
>resorts to "nuh-uh!" argumentation
Sad!
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>>97914620
Imagine using the same pathetic tactic over and over
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>>97914440
What bugs me the most is the way they did it they didnt even try to make it organic or anything they just said "yeah they were always there". Which is the laziest shit possible, it was also immediately memed as being some Tzeentchian bullshit.
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>>97937940
You are saying its pointless but you also said that you argued it. You need to show your work. Or else you are just coping.
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>>97914440
Hope they add women to every kit, and men to every Sisters kit. I want you people to shut the fuck up about this setting that you only have youtube shorts level of understanding of. It will never go back to being good, but I'll at least be able to talk online about it to people who actually give a fuck.
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All this talk about Cathay and the Chinese make me wonder supposed one of the founding space marine legions is based on China, would the Chinese even buy them?
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>>97940530
This is such a retarded take that only an MBA could have come up with it. We're not talking about groceries, toiletries and home goods - and even if we were, it still misses the mark else brands like Old Spice wouldn't be so desperately trying to convince men that they need moisturizing body wash.

The only growth in female demographics GW has experienced has been low-value men of ten or fifteen years ago identifying as transwomen, today. The proportion of actual women as consumers of Games Workshop products remains vanishingly small and you can see it firsthand just by walking into a hobby shop or organized play event.

That's why people like >>97941477 are so eager to demoralize; don't believe your lying eyes, they screech, Warhammer has always been diverse, you just hate women and minorities! You're a racist and a transphobe and the pronouns-in-bio bluehairs running GW's social media said you won't be missed!
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>>97942190
That's a perfectly acceptable way of doing it. Way better than how the primaris situation was handled. What's despicable is that they won't admit that it's straight up retcon
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>>97939478
>There has never been a time where the majority of people in nerd spaces were right wing,
This is a really weird stance to take while simultaneously holding that the chuds have to be removed from gaming spaces. You can either have
>there were never right wing gaming spaces
or
>we have to make gaming spaces safe for leftists with cancel culture
but you can't have both.
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>>97942643
You know how leftoid media is constantly going on about how fascism is a self-immiserating ideology that holds the contradictory belief that its enemies are simultaneously an all-powerful conspiracy that infects all levels of authority while also being an insignificant nuisance unworthy of consideration?

This is because leftoids are projecting their own ideology onto their perceived outgroup, and everyone that isn't a sufficiently pure fellow ideologue and fellow traveler of the revolutionary left is a fascist.
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>>97941503
>I am for the Good Thing
>my belief system encompasses only Good Things
>therefore, I am Good
>anyone unlike me is Bad
>they believe in Bad Things
>they are incapable of experiencing Good Things because they are Bad
Positively unhinged take desu
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>>97914440
Ok but what will YOU do op when these models sell and they go further?

Thought so.
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>>97940009
>are publicly on record as having just wanted to play video games,
Online grifters are just like you goyi- ...buddy! They're not doing it for outage bucks it's just those pesky libruls won't leave them alone uwu!
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>>97943029
>Ok but what will YOU do op when these models sell and they go further?
If only there was some sort of alternative to James Workshop. I guess we'll just have to continue to consume whatever he deigns to give us.
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>>97943029
In addition to what>>97943069
said, these models aren't actually selling all that well. So the odds that James Workshop will continue pushing this well into the future are slim.
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>>97943038
Oh look, more 0/10 trolling, don't you people ever get of this shit?
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>>97943106
Hey, you've gotta admit that trying to link culture wars to Jewish subversion is at least novel.
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>>97943125
Meh, fine. The faggot gets 1/10 instead of 0/10. But that's the best I can do.

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