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>>97912922

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

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What are some actually good sorceries/instants for him? Feels like the majority of R/W big mana sorceries are nono MLD or shit.

>>97916352
there are lots of funny big mana red spells that deal big damage

>>97916352
This dude loots every turn, just play Aproach of the 2nd Sun

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>>97916352
Any top of deck tutor + this

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>>97916352
Here's a deck idea that you can run precisely once, and then everyone will see him as kill on sight to prevent you from popping off after untapping with him

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Reminder she was literally never Fire Lord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRkI15fIJ1w

What the fuck are you supposed to copy with the otter in the prismari precon in the best case scenario? People yap how its so much better than the woman but outside of warcrimes with Storm Kiln on instant speed I don't really see it

>>97916402
Nobody cares.

>>97916402
>fight over who gets the title
Yeah that's literally a succession ritual, retard.

>>97916402
Why didn't they adapt any scene from the Boiling Rock comic?

>>97916300
What the fuck is this ChatGPT-ass TQ?

>>97916420
1. Not ordinarily part of fire nation succession
2. She fucking lost, retard.

I linked you the scene, she's about to be crowned and literally tells them to wait and that she and Zuko will fight for it. The art on the fucking card is from that fight. She was not and never was Fire Lord

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I'm trans by the way

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>>97916402
And The Toymaker is a God but didn't get God typing. No one cares

Previous thread was still on page 5.
Fuck off.

>>97912922
>TQ
My favorite hidden tech is to always threaten a bake with furfag's furry shit in the OP so this schizo has to promptly make a new bake every time

>>97916445
Uh oh furfag melty

My favorite tech is being an autistic nigger that removes the proxy link from the OP because he's that obsessed with proxies.

>>97916454
But you can proxy for free with a sharpie?

>>97916437
I don't understand this ritual.

>>97916461
He bears his secrets well

>>97916417
also if i do happen to copy a massive rootha elemental and then clone the changed muddle copies also retain myriad or is it non-inheritable?

>>97916402
>>97916430
She effectively was for about 2 seconds. Then made a fool of herself in front of everyone by not only getting completely outskilled by an objectively weak firebender but trying to attack a spectator during a sacred duel.
What title would you have preferred anon? Fire Jobber Azula perhaps?
Really weird thing to be autistic about in this thread of all things though.

>>97916451
Uh oh schizo melty
Keep baking a new thread way too early because you're triggered

>>97916481
>Fire Jobber Azula
Yes

Azula was too fat anyway.

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>no new hot teacher Liliana
Why did they deny me this? I've been good.

>>97916577
I stopped liking her when I learned she talks like a Bostonian.

>>97916461
There was an annoying guy obsessed with squirrels, he left years ago, but set up a bot to post Toski each thread as a last fuck you.

>>97916609
I doubt that

>>97916609
Is it still okay to like Bloomburrow squirrels?

>you don't own the card
>therefore you don't get to use it
What is so difficult to understand about this?

>>97916688
Consumerist slave mentality.

>>97916609
I've set up several bots to argue with anons here, it's quite possible to do. It's amusing reading anons get heated over them. Though I have no way of knowing those aren't bots too

>>97916695
I like this bot especially. Explaining how I made bots

>>97916688
But I get to use it. Like you can't stop me. I don't own it, yet I play a printout. You can larp all you want but I'm in my LGS corner with my buddies using it

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Everyone keeps telling me +1/+1 counters aren't shit and I keep killing them with this dumbass card.

>>97916705
Me too. It's get boring to play bracket 1 games all the time tho.

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>>97916717

>>97916705
no see unless it's a combo piece or something that gets you a combo piece it's useless
cEDH players don't actually play magic the gathering, they play poker.

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>Autist is back to removing the proxy link from the OP so now we have to start fucking baking early again
I hate this general so fucking much.

>>97916730
You know you don't "have" to right? They are not mandatory. You can be at peace with the links being absent for one thread.
>inb4 ITS YOU MY MORTAL ENEMY
I proxy and I will include the links when I bake. I just have no place in your imaginary internet feud

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Is he always kill on sight? It's an amazing discard engine for yet another gy deck rather than trust miracle or try to manipulate topdeck

>>97916771
>Setup+Payoff on same card
>Payoff is infinite manacheat
It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.

>>97916730
He was in a rush. Forgot the previous thread in OP. Sloppy. He was anxious

>>97916743
NTA but I make a thread here and there, I won't bake.

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>play land enchantments as my main gimmick
>indestructible lands just in case too
>some motherfucker was unironically running this in his "shitty artifacts deck"
I didn't even know this was a real card, what the fuck

>>97912961
>>97916441
>Previous thread was still on page 5.
>Fuck off.

New ritualpost unlocked?

>>97916838
No, there are certain retards who care deeply which links are in the OP. Similarly there are other mongoloids who get heavily triggered whenever somebody makes a thread too early. Other people get mad when somebody doesn't immediately make a thread when the old one gets archived. We have currently an OP war going on, so that won't happen soon.
They have literally nothing else in their life going on besides 4chan board culture and only doing what you're supposed to do.
A very miserable existence

>>97916402
Her dad made her Fire Lord when he named himself Phoenix Lord.

>>97916833
Never be surprised to find out there's a hyper specific card that specifically counters a niche gimmick you decided to use..

>>97916833
"budget nykthos" by stacking enchantments on a land isn't that unpopular

>>97916849
Phoenix King, but yes

>>97916833
That's funny lol
Get sweeped fag

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>>97916833
>I didn't even know this was a real card, what the fuck
I get to use the card I want whether it's real or not. Like you can't stop me.

>>97916771
Another card that can only be played in mtgo since people can’t be trusted

>>97916930
You have to be reasonably good at sleight of hand to not make it obvious you're trying to cheat with miracle

>>97916846
It sounds like /edhg/ really just doesn't want there to be a thread.

>>97916975
There have been many instances where no new thread was made even as the old one became archived so in a way /edhg/ takes baking very casually

>play with the same friends every time
>the other decks are dragon tribal Ur-Dragon, artifact spinning wheels deck that does nothing for 3 hours and Witherbloom
>I am Garth and everyone tries to cut a deal with me to fuck over the other two
this is my life...

>>97916975
It's pretty clear most posters would rather discuss the thread itself or repeat the same two shitposts ad nauseum than actually talk about EDH. And that's not fun for anyone.

>>97916771
>unwinding clock+sol ring to play every topdeck even if tapped out
yes

>>97916771
Yes. No one is doing anything honest with this and it is very likely to be played as a seething faggot's MLD list just like the first Lorehold.

>>97916352
Is this AI generated? When did wizards start doing this?

>>97916300
>Do you make / have you considered making your first (or pet) deck into the most powerful deck it can be in the powerlevel (in bracket terms) it can be?
No.
This game is a ponzi scheme and the idea of moving my decks up anywhere beyond bracket 1 makes me physically ill.

>>97917250
>This game is a ponzi scheme
It's actually a pvp game based on artificial scarcity of cards obtained randomly through booster packs

>>97916300
>Do you make / have you considered making your first (or pet) deck into the most powerful deck it can be in the powerlevel (in bracket terms) it can be?
I'm never going to put Master of Cruelties into Kaalia, no

>>97917265
>pvp game based on artificial scarcity of cards obtained randomly through booster packs
Then why can I pay like $10 to skip having to randomly acquire the card?

>>97917290
I can also sharpie a basic land saying it's an uncounterable card 0 mana instant that says i win the game, your point?

>>97917295
I can just punch you in the face. Your point?

>>97917242
AI unironically makes less ridiculous cards than WotC.

I bought a bunch of proxies recently

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Which plane has the sexiest vampires?

>>97916930
how many disingenious niggers do you play with that it's a realistic concern?

>>97917297
I love it when proxytards are shown the logical conclusion of their retardation

>>97917307
I was talking about buying the card instead of randomly pulling it from a pack, genius.

>>97917307
Proxying a card that actually exists isn't the same as just making shit up as you go along.
>Bro let's play chess
>My pawn makes it to the opposite side of the board, I'll swap it out for a Queen
>Well MY pawn makes it to the opposite side of the board and it turns into a piece that can move 93 times per turn, I win.
I hope you can tell the difference between these two things.

>>97917311
Lulu my beloved

>>97917316
>making a card that didnt come out of wotc's printers? Good
>making a card that didnt come out of wotc's r&d? Le bad
Lmao

>>97917308
That's just you subsidizing the box opening funds of your local seller/online store of choice/your drafters, which is fine

>>97917322
You're the type of faggot to sit down to a TTRPG with a 40 page backstory for your character to explain why you're trying to start the campaign with a +5 greatsword and expecting the GM to just roll with it.

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>>97917322
Glad we're on the same page.

>>97916300
>tq
my first? kinda already did but turns out xenagos plateaus rather early
my pet? my favorite one is as strong as I want already even if it's not the most optimal and for normal decks depends, some i brew and dismantle the moment the play pattern is going to be boring af and the fantasy of it isn't enough to pull it up. Some other i just grow bored of the playstyle and just leave it be if it's not using pieces that are in demand by newer decks regardless of the brackets but if i set myself to specific one i try not to cross it

>>97917307
Good piggy.

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>>97917336
>yes i'm doubling down now do what i say because i'm poor

>>97917340
Happy to fund your free entertainment :)

>>97917330
But enough about poorfags buying from chang

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Building picrel as a high bracket 2. I threw in a bunch of the 2-mana "create two tokens" cards and similar and figured I'll run out the commander T3. The lategame plan is to use the commander's sacrifice ability to keep a board full of tokens while dropping a symmetrical boardwipe (ideally, with a same-turn resurrection effect like Brought Back to dodge commander tax) - or to just overrun if I can get wide enough that the other players having blockers doesn't matter.

What should I be looking to drop in the 1-3 turns after Darien comes down? I feel like I should have some ramp at that mana value to get to 7-8 mana so I can feasibly do the wipe & sacrifice above, but I also definitely need more token generation to be able to actually swing for lethal once I go for that play. Trying to mostly avoid creature cards in this deck unless they have a very significant impact, or survive the boardwipe strategy.

>>97917438
Awaken the Woods, Mirari's Wake for ramp, and Buried in the Garden for spot removal

>>97917438
Put in there an infinite mana combo too since darien is a mana sink himself

>>97917449
Also Springleaf Parade. Maybe Skyshroud Claim and Migration Path.

Also be aware of 5 or less mana instants since you can hold up mana and if you don't need to cast it spend the mana on Darien's ability. Things like Fracturing Gust, Sylvan Reclamation, Miraculous Recovery, etc

>>97916771
It looks cool as a discard commander but even if you build it "fair" it's going to do stupid shit.

>>97917471
>>97917478
I was not really thinking about building around Darien's mana ability, since he loses the counters when sacrificing himself for the board and it seems like a generally inefficient rate for token generation. Is disregarding it a big mistake?

opinions on starwinder and quantum riddler in orvar shell? or are they just too bad compared to just cloning orvar and mulldrifter over and over again?

>>97917496
There's nothing inefficient when it comes to infinite mana and there will always be a situation when they simply have no board wipe so might as well go infinite tokens and if you have a haste enabler even better

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>>97917242
You know there is an artist name on the card that you can go see their body of work.

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>edh tournaments
any other instant LGS filter?

>>97917562
House banlists.

>>97917562
Unlimited mulligans
Humblebragging you won via proxying a perfect manabase while your opponents have taplands
Banning infinite combos because you cant handle it turn 9 in b2

>>97916352
>Every important card in every set has to have 50 lines of text
>No room for any flavor text
LMAO

>>97917496
I think you're focusing on the better part (the sac ability) but I wouldn't disregard the other ability entirely. It's a fine mana sink to keep expanding without losing the opportunity cost of leaving Settle the Wreckage mana up or something like that.

And yeah, mana sink if you're in an environment where infinte mana is appropriate

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What's her power level

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>>97917594
ah...sovl...

>>97917696
2

>>97917594
Tbf if you're not a histrionic fag you realize that most of the bloat is reminder text

>>97917696
>its

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Casual reminder that MPCFill also lets you proxy all Planechase and Archenemy cards.

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Whatever happened with the TMNT co-op game mode? Haven't heard a single thing about it since the set dropped.

>>97917753
It was just a pre release gimmick, wasn't it?

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>>97917696
>tfw no bespectacled beanpole tradcath cartographer vampire goth gf

>>97917767
Why did you put kellen there. You gay?

>>97917562
Hosts prerelease events
Unironically.

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>>97917767
can ixalan vamps be bred?

>>97917696
Very strong if built properly. Million triggers to track, not for the faint of heart.

>>97917778
Maybe. Personally I doubt it. But even if they can the offspring would likely not be a vampire.

>>97917769
I'm jealous of that manlet because he got the goth gf.

>>97916771
Miracle could be fixed if it had you reveal the first card you draw each turn.

>>97917899
You already need to do this if you intend on casting a card with Miracle. You don't get to shuffle it into your hand then declare Miracle trigger despite what some retards will tell you.

Glad /edhg/ sees Lorehold is the strongest of the new dragons. Feels like every retard cums and shits their pants when they see
> "omg storm omg omg like storm, storm all spells"
Nigger, it is a seven fucking mana dragon with no protecting that does literally nothing the turn it drops unless you have 2 million mana. Meanwhile Lorehold can fucking hit a dude for 5 commander and will loot you 3 cards by the time it makes it back to your turn. I look forward to instantly STP'ing Pissmari.

>>97917311
I get it, but there's a lot more lifegain and ways to use that card in sos limited than there were in ff. also there's six sign in blood effects in sos, so they're going for something on purpose.

>>97918080
Lorehold and Silverquill feel like the stand outs this time. Prismari is boring and kind of bad. Witherbloom and Quandrix are alright.

>>97918096
Silverquill is in shit colors unfortunately for spell slinging, the best you can do is copy tutors, which is absolutely lame. There are better Exsanguinate/Hailfire of Torment engines.

>>97917769
>kellen
She goes by Oona now, thank you.

>>97918080
Silverquill is the sleeper hit desu

>>97918080
Dude it has ward. No I won't read what the ward cost is. Ward is just Hexproof!

>>97918080
????
Witherbloom shits on the entire cycle, and if you can't tell that from a glance you're retarded

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>>97918192
>It costs 2 (two) more mana to use my kill spell on the creacher
absolutely debilitating, I'll never financially recover

>>97918206
Lorehold will average out better than Witherbloom

>>97918235
lol

>>97918223
Prismari doesn't even have a real ward cost lol. It's a life payment.

>>97917696
There's a million ways to combo kill everyone and she's two mana, so high.

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Pictured: the totality of elder demons in all of MTG.
Not pictured: Griselbitch, who is not an elder demon and will never be ballin with those stupid ass sword arms of his.

>>97918282
None of them even have flavor text. Gay shit if you ask me.

>>97918235
>weaker colors
>you lose if he gets removed and you have to recast him
>once per turn effect that requires setup
Lorehold is more FUN, but Witherbloom is legit busted

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>>97918282
>Vulvamoth is literally the wall
>flying

TQ: I generally did do that with not my first commander but one of the first ones I ever picked and its now a pretty sick bracket 4.5 deck possibly even a b5 meta disruptor but cedh isn't real commander anyway

Bracket 4: S-CDR (strategic commander)
Bracket 5: "cedh" (combo racer; not competitive or commander)

>>97916352
who says MLD is a "no no"? counter that spell then. the brackets are only a year old and are not official rules and are not banned.

faggots who complain about their lands being destroyed are often the same faggots who complain if you open the game with Leyline of Singularity or Leyline of the Void because they wanted to create 10k tokens or cheat shit out of the graveyard

the amount of people who don't have disenchant/naturalize/feed the swarm or run Beast Within (yet another color pie break green shouldn't have) as their only removal is directly proportional to the amount of MLD crybabies

/edhg/ continues to demonstrate why they post here instead of playing.

>>97918403
I only play one day a week. Rest of the time, I'm here. just jackin' it.

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>>97918403
>play 4 days out of the week, 2 days are randoms with 40+ random players
>post here with my stories
>FAKE DIDNT HAPPEN FAKE FAKE FAKE

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>>97918366
If you can have mld i can have my consistent turn 5 combo from the cz w/o GCs, infinites are part of the game as mld and it aint my problem b2 cant keep up

>>97918465
If only we had an image to describe this phenomenon...

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>>97916352
Miracle is a nice bonus, but I think I am going to build him leaning into "when cards leave the GY" synergy.

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>>97917748
I played planechase recently. Very fun. We started with Naya so the 1st game was over on turn 3.

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>>97918468
>6 mana
Weak sauce.
Needing to answer 3-drops is a core part of the game.

>>97918485
She cute.

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>>97918485
>3 mana
Pathetic. The future is Badgermole Cubs.

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>>97918485
If you cant handle a 0 drop your deck SUCKS

Rare instance of /edhg/ actually demonstrating the flaw in someone's reasoning correctly with examples.

>>97918492
I don't like this druid.

>>97918510
It's fine to dislike Kinnan he's literally retarded

>>97918506
Vaguepost king

>>97918158
This, I pulled a foil and I'm already starting to brew a list

>play "fair" infect
>no proliferate
>one counter a turn, on one player a turn
>no sudden infect pump or combat tricks
>lifegain player whines before we even draw
>whines the entire time
>burn player kills, probably just to shut him up
>life gain player wins because the other two have no anti-heal in their deck

>>97918626
I have probably the fairest infect deck around, Skrelv + personal rule where I have to kill the entire table at the same time, and people still complain. No infinite combos, no mass proliferates, cost me like 25bux to build cuz it's all commons/uncommons, people still fucking refuse to play against it

>>97918424
why more people dont play MTGO is truly baffling

>>97918626
Either accept no one likes infect and be the archenemy or play a different deck

>>97918495
partners need to be banned because its anti commander

>>97918626
no proliferate isn't a "fair" infect deck its a neutered one. infect and proliferate were the 2 new mechanics of Scars of Mirrodin (you remember that right?) and are meant to be played together.

not using proliferation effects with infect is...mind-boggling to put it one way

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>>97918735
skithiryx is the most fair infect commander because mono black sucks generally, and to cast him with haste its a 6 drop, like and elder dragon

the best way to win with infect though is to cast Caress of Phyrexia when they're at 7 poison counters though

>>97918827
If mono black sucked people wouldnt be crying to gavin about discard/sac/boardwipe/tutors/lifedrain

>>97918827
>mono black sucks generally
This is how we know you're bad at the game.

>>97918760
Playing more than I do would burn me out, which I don't want to do either. So once a week is fine for me.

>>97918784
>The same cedhtards who say the hybrid change would go against the spirit of commander won't stop playing partners

>>97919165
I like turbo naus AND pro hybrid tho

>>97919165
Where have you picked up this notion that cedh players and anti hybrid casuals are the same group of people?

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I am anti-control. I hate control! I hate plans. I want to roll the dice, and I want feel that shit in my veins
https://archidekt.com/decks/11611244/indoraptor_the_burn_engine

>>97918784
Partner is only ass when you have to track commander damage seperately.

>>97919197
Sometimes I question what the point of running a single instance of reanimate is. I usually end up cutting it for more consistency elsewhere.

>>97919197
>https://archidekt.com/decks/11611244/indoraptor_the_burn_engine
How are you going to stop me from playing twenty toed toad with a hand full of stupid counterspells and winning?

>>97919197
>Tergrid
>Bowmasters
no anon
you are the control

>>97916771
Up until people realize there aren't that many good big mana spells in that color. You're either going to be blowing up everyones lands, changing your life total, or dealing 10 damage on a 9 mana spell.

>>97917594
It's like three sentences.

>>97919335
Eh, my commander doesn't cost much and sometimes to get an Indo trigger I have to kill him in the process. But if I get off two triggers and reanimate him, I’ll have doubled the +1/+1 counters on him due to all the life my opponents would have lost.
>>97919353
Can't counter combat NIGGA!
>>97919361
Orcish only is to trigger Indo
Tergrid is to encourage you to take the damage

>>97916481
>>97916849
>I'm a dumb thirdy turdy and have no understanding of what a coronation is for
Here's a hint for you, it's more than a formality. You are not king until you are crowned, simple as that.

>>97918366
>daring to upset the bracket fags and their perfect system
ya don it nao ary porer

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>>97919383
>Orcish only is to trigger Indo

>>97918495
Why do you obsess over this pairing, anyway? It's like you expect everyone to be terrified of it and I don't get why.

>>97919390
LMAO That guy is lying because uh...
I dunno. Your image didn't have a counter argument. Just an ancient fucking meme.

>>97919380
It sucks that not even the extended art version that doesn't explain what Miracle is doesn't even have any flavour text.

Why would I choose to do one (1) damage to your commander when I could do forty (40) damage to you?

>>97919391
Silas is there for Ad Nauseum/Thoracle and little else

a zero cost commander completely shits on some of the fundamental limitations of the format

>>97919405
This is my thought process when I play Azula with pump spells.

>>97919398
you see anon, you don't actually need a counter-argument for something that isn't an argument in the first place! You can just think someone isn't being truthful! Try it out sometime!

>>97919391
>you
It's like.. literally THE cEDH pairing, are you fucking retarded?

>>97919435
>THE cEDH pairing
Its not.

>>97919423
Ok but why am I meant to be afraid of this?

>>97918282
>tfw no cute Elder Angels
Why are angels always shafted in the big creatures dragon, demons, angels?

>>97919435
1/10 bait

>>97919473
No point in asking. He's just a larper.

>>97919473
imagine a turn 1 Jeska's Will for 7 because that is what they'll be mulliganing for

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>>97918282
Simple.
Clean.
Efficient.
Has flavor text.

>>97919502
Ok. I force of will
>uh I counter that with...
Ok. I counter that with another free counter spell.
We're in bracket 5. You think no one has any response to this and this deck you are posting has a 100% win rate? Is cEDH a solved format?

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A hustler’s work is never through!

>>97919481
Angels don't need an extra typeline in attempt to ride off
>brooo they're like Nicol Bolas!
hype, because they're Angels. They are the hype.

>>97919512
>this deck you are posting has a 100% win rate?
Does in my pod, because I just paid chang and only play 4s.

>>97919512
yeah man, not like he won't have free counterspells of his own. Rograkh is a massive mana advantage with the free "control your commander" spells.
>Is cEDH a solved format?
now you're getting it and the solution is being in seat 1

>>97919524
>>97919512
Why are you posting this like you only ever played 1v1?
Cedh isn't a 1v1.

>>97919524
So again: This deck has a 100% win rate in cEDH and the format is solved?

>>97919518
Sounds like you are breaking bracket rules?

>>97919541
Even if I was. Can't do anything about it.
I play underground sea and watch you above ground seethe.

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Commanders with this vibe?

>>97919548
I don't understand your bait sometimes

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>>97919565
Go home kid.

>>97919575
You are genuinely the most annoying fuck I have seen and I've dealt with fucking farquuad in multiple generals.

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>>97919581
>He thinks I'm one person

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>>97919557
>am i cute? uguu~

>>97919557
If the vibe is attractive women getting uglier with smaller boobs, several
Not a single female character in all of magic has received a glow up.

>>97919655
>boobs are what make you hot

>>97919662
No, but taking what breasts you were given and making them smaller and smaller doesn't help.

>>97919662
Yes
Men know this.

>>97919662
not many of them have great asses or bodies either.

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>>97919481
Because wotc hates both mono white and attractive women.

>>97919732
The woke bubble will burst someday.
Women like sexy women too. Men like handsome sexy men too.

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9 left, I cut sol ring

https://archidekt.com/decks/21764111/ghive

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>>97919772
woops

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>>97919770
When's he going to buy WOTC

>>97919788
Does he even have interest in magic, and its real and not like "gamer creed" with path to exile?

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Is Goldspan likely to drop below $8 because of the reprinting in a precon, or is it too popular to drop more than a few cents?

>>97919793
he expressed buying WOTC because D&D went woke but a) I'm not him I so can't report on his inner heart b) I assume every thing he does is 99% performative

>>97919810
probably. It went down a lot last time it was in a precon

>>97917562
Unlimited proxy use.

>>97918305
He's everything and originally a big moth anon

>>97917562
Shop has under 7 employees

>players will swords a 1/1 deathtoucher because...he wants to attack you
>absolutely zero thoughts about the fact he's putting himself down a card versus two other opponents to do like 5 damage.
>enemy niv mizzet in command zone hits board, counterspells my removal, no one else has responses, GG

>>97919927
>local place is just a dude, his wife, and his son
>one of the most popular LGSs in the city
???????????

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>guy casts mortality shift with maskwood nexus and lhurgoyf commander out
>silverquill player has vedalken orrery
>casts pic rel
>giant fuck you to me and the goyf player
>casts pox plague on his turn and sacs a bunch of his inklings

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>>97919950
>Equip shadowspear to my Changling Outcast
>I can do 2 damage and gain 2 life, and can't block at all. I have nothing else on board and missed a land drop. I am clearly just stalling.
>This is worth putting imprisoned in the moon on over another players Hashaton.
>The hashaton player proceeds to play something that stops the legend rule, then discards Ojer Taq and then Toxrill
I was pretty checked out of the game already, but christ.

>>97919950
>players will swords a 1/1 deathtoucher because...he wants to attack you
Are you in my friends group???? Holy fuck it's fucking INSUFFERABLE what they waste removal on

Ok, lets end this once and for all.

>Lorehold
>Haste
>Five Mana
>If it survives to the first opponents Upkeep you get a loot
I'll argue. Lorehold opens up rarely explored space in RW: Reanimator. There is a plethora of RW reanimate sorceries that cost 4+CMC that return creatures and/or artifacts enchantments. Additionally, while few, there are some pretty powerful big ass R/W Instant and Sorceries. Finally. the new paradigm spells. Lorehold plays very well with them, the white is a reanimate even. The Floor for lorehold is likely the highest of the new dragons as it can deal damage the turn it drops and starts doing things the very next upkeep.

>Witherbloom
>Deathtouch
>Affinity for creatures
>Gives instants and sorceries you cast affinity for creatures.
>Goes infinite with Sprout Swarm
This is good, no arguing, however. Mana is not something GX decks really hurt for. It opens no new deck building space in his colors, he is simply mana ramp. Finally, say you drop Witherbloom turn 4, then he immediately eats a boardwipe , nuking all your manadorks. Now you have to rebuild HARD, not only are your early turn dorks dead, now witherbloom cost 10 mana and you have to replay more creatures to get that discount.

I believe Lorehold is better.
>New deck building space
>Can slap for 5 commander damage the turn he lands
>Starts doing thing ASAP
>Does not depend on having an established board.

Witherbloom is worse. Gx decks were already casting big fuck off spells without affinity for creatures. Witherbloom forces you to have creatures on board to function, yes, I know Gx decks do this anyway, but Witherbloom in a vacuum does nothing.

>>97919980
I didn't say anything about the success of a place and neither did anyone else.

>>97919995
I think Lorehold SUCKS

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>Literally no one cares about Quandrix
What the fuck went wrong?

>>97920020
>Another simic value engine
What's to be excited about?

>>97919990
>>97919988
how do we explain proper threat assessment to people without sounding like we're seething

>>97920048
You can't, some people are goners

>I don't run any boardwipes.

>>97920083
>I just have it

>I would have won next turn.

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>>97919995
I don't understand the Witherbloom hype ether. Too much needs to go right for the card to work
>Have a critical mass of shitters and/or tokens to get him out fast (commit your whole hand to the board)
>Dodge a boardwipe while everything is just sitting there
>Protection requires more cards you don't have because you just dumped your hand onto the board
>Have a big spell worth jumping through the hoop that's uncastable without him
>If you do have protection spells now your hand has no big spell to cast as a pay off
How does this deck not simply just die after some chuckle nuts casts blasphemous act before your first big spell? It looks so sweet when you're goldfishing but I can't imagine it plays out well at all against real opposition

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>fractures you're reality
Nothing personal kid

>>97920103
He is solidly a Bracket 2 Commander. IF 3 other players allow witherbloom to exist with 4+ creatures, then that is on them. A single boardwipe sets witherbloom back 3 turns, unless you have a grip full of low CMC creatures or token generation, then as you said, you won't have many big spells.

>>97920118
so if I put 6 GC in him can I still run him in 2?

>>97920048
Best you can do is try and make the argument when they try and do it. Beyond that, its on them to learn, or not. Usually not.

>>97920120
>>97920128
where these from?

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>>97920120
>>97920128
Do you have spoilers for humans and not ants

>>97920128
>Oh her? Yeah she's a chill of compliance

>>97920141
I can read them

>>97920117
this should give escape so it's functionally different but still clearly references snapcaster mage FACT

>>97920171
That would require effort and caring about MTG.

>>97920117
>haste instead of flash
it's shit

>SoS is only in prerelease
>They are already letting Reality Fracture leak out
Marvel and Hobbit are going to be so bad.

>>97920182
I don't get your schizo logic

>>97920180
Goddamn, I did not even notice. What a dead or arrival card.
>Mythic
Good god.

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>>97917562
I like my LGS but one of the employees there is a 40-something year old, balding fat guy who dresses like a woman.

>>97920103
BRO AFFINITY
AFFINITY IS SO STRONG BRO
NO I DON'T KNOW WHY AFFINITY WAS ORIGINALLY HORRIFYINGLY OVERPOWERED, I STARTED PLAYING A YEAR AGO
I JUST KNOW AFFINITY IS A STRONG KEYWORD
AFFINITYYYYYYYYYYY

>>97920117
>It's Snapcaster Mage!
>but dogshit!

>>97919995
>>97920103
Witherbloom is always one random token generating effect away from cheating command tax and coming out for GB. He is a one-card combo in the command zone with sprout swarm. You don't even need to deploy Witherbloom until you're ready to win the game.

Lorehold is a cooler card with more interesting deckbuilding implications, but Witherbloom is busted as shit.

>>97920117
I'm okay with this. Its not great.
Its not mythic worthy, but it will have use in many of my decks.

>>97920120
Is that from one of the commander decks? Because that's a reprint.

>>97920262
You can't run snapcaster in non-blue decks

>>97920303
red, nonblue decks just got Flashback (instant) in SOS

>>97920117
>turns the tournament winner into a strong independent black person
rofl

>>97920315
Redundancy is good.

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>>97920303
yes you can

>>97920332
How do I block a creature with this?

>>97920020
Cascade is boring.
Simic value piles are boring.
Quandrix is boring.
It's probably the only dragon this set around less interesting than a thousand-year storm in the command zone.

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>>97920332

>>97920020
It's... fine. There are more exciting cascade commanders out there.

>>97920048
You will literally never fucking EVER be able to convince bad players that removing a 1/1 deathtouch is bad

>>97920128
>colorswap: the set
Called it from a mile away and yet I'm still stoked for it

>>97920337
paincaster doesn't have flash, so you can't surprise flashback+block with him.

>>97920391
I was hoping for a little more thought to it than "what if chandra... but ice?!" though.

>>97920391
If we get clones in non-blue colors it'll be the best set of the last 5 years

>>97920128
Is white Liliana spoiled yet?

>>97916352
>Approach of the Second Sun
>Austere Command
>Brass's Bounty
>Call Forth the Tempest
>Dance with Calamity
>Everything Comes to Dust
>Gallifrey Falls // No More
>Hit the Mother Lode
>Improvisation Capstone
>Mass Calcify
>Reverse the Sands
>Rise of the Eldrazi
>Soulfire Eruption
>Volcanic Vision

>>97920502
Several of these either suck, or would be bad to cast with the miracle cost. If you cast everything comes to dust without convoking, then it is just a board wipe that could be 4 mana.

>>97920182
Hobbit will be good but marvel is going to be a Spider-Man level shitshow and their market research must show there's no interest in it. This is what happens when you let out of touch boomer nerds decide which IPs to adapt.

>>97920103
Just reanimate it, stupid

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>>97916352

>>97919988
>using changeling outcast
you are either a theft deck (killing you out of spite) or a ninjutsu deck (kill you out of spite and self interest)

>>97920506
Can you not Convoke with the Miracle cost?

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>>97920529
Yes. You can Convoke a miracle. The spell does not lose convoke because it is a miracle.

Pretty new to EDH, I tried mashing together a deck with my pre-release pulls and whatever I had lying around.[https://archidekt.com/decks/21886521/silverquill] Any thoughts? Not sure if this really works, but basically I just tossed in some token generators, a couple of creatures that gain tokens/ping with dead creatures, a little recursion, and lots of removal.

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I'm going to start building decks with 1/1 deathtouchers

>>97919985
wacky to see cards right before they changed the exile wording

although I still prefer the wording of put the top x card of your library into your graveyard rather than milling because I think milling is a dumb word.

I prefer not to see milling at all because shitty players play it

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>>97920606
Its fun!

>>97920621
>Only the Japs are allowed to give us attractive women.
>Even then, you can tell they are nerfed by looking at the artist non-mtg art.

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>>97920640

>>97920048
Take them to a few draft events or run them through a cube night every now & then.

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>>97920640
I don't think he was told to "reign it in" think gorgons are just a little out of his wheelhouse.

>>97917696
She looks like she has a right-wing chud boyfriend.

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>>97920661
>Wanghe Li
Not a jap but asian nonetheless

>>97920711
She doesn't look like a bimbo at all

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Looking at him and his art, I get the same energy for some reason.