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>Previously
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>TQ
What's your fav blue instant?
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>tq
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If you bring a deck which creates tokens and then place anything but the official tokens on table you should be tarred, feathered and paraded around town.
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How do I break the second mode in Pioneer?
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>TQ
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>Alara is literally the only plane that remains unraped
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either something cheap with high power so you can take advantage of the token getting haste, or something that specifically wants to see another copy of itself die for a big effect
it's an awkward card, you are definitely going to want to run some cheap instant and sorceries so it feels less clunky
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it says "creature spell" you need atraxa to be on the stack in order to copy her
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>>97928064
Don't worry buddy, it WILL get worse and you WILL keep buying products.
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Reality fracture will be shit because we dont get a swole muscle Jace
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>premoderno takes off
>WoTC wants that money
>reprint reserve list
>Investors fags meltdown
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>>97928373
>fag wants reserve list reprints
>instead WotC takes over the format and bans Replenish
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This i can't wait for Premodern to fuck with investors i would praise Brazil with all my might.
The only problem is if JOTC take the format how much will take to fuck it like they fucked every other format, starting with the UB garbage.
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>>97928419
>Jotc bans Replenish
I mean find the lie. It’s entirely within the kike MO to cripple every aspect of White.
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>>97928582
jealous faggot
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>>97928709
wtf why would anyone every grade that fucking token of all things
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based, fuck stormniggers
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I like this guy. He makes good on his cost, he looks like a yassified version of himself, and he speaks with a vocal inflection like he's Captain Kirk.
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>>97927284
>TQ
But I believe it should be white instead of blue.
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As a Brazilian who played from 2001 to 2005 and came back to the game 2 years ago and had a SHIT TON of garbage that went 10x on price since last year: thank you premodern schizos for making me mad bank, i would never complete my pauper pool of cards without you guys!
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There’s an obnoxius retard at my LGS that even if you have a basic, original version of the token, he will pull out his foil exclusive third reich edition full art tokens and shove across the table for you to use, and if you DARE placing a dice on his DOUBLE SLEEVED token he would seethe at you and ask to “please don’t place the dices on the card cause it will damage the foil”. My guy, if you don’t want dices being placed on your cards, don’t fucking flex them on people and stop ((((borrowing)))) your stupid tokens without being asked you FREAK.
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Abrace a tradição.
Venha pro prémoderno, /tg/.
Venha pra casa...
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Hexhaven>Strixhaven
I can't wait for the last real set of this year
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>Artifacts/enchantments so out of control that shit like Abrade / March etc. infest every format.
>Now every brew that just haoppens to use a particular jank rock is flat out dead on arrival because every deck has maindeck hate.
I hate WotC.
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>every format.
this is true but I have a feeling your post is more directed at standard and pioneer where the illusion of a fair jank deck still exists because in modern or legacy you don't have time to complain about flexible removal, you just die the moment you stumble even a little bit against the average combo/ramp/unfair deck
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Bring it back, Mark.
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>POV: you just walked in on some family business.
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It's so weird how this is like the best art for Raffine and Ziatora's faces because their actual cards just don't show anything on either front. Raffine's is too shaded and Ziatora's too distant.
Honestly, apart from Xander, all the Family heads' cards are weirdly zoomed out, looking at them.
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>>97930063
She gets a better view in Arena. There's also a medium shot of a statue in her likeness in the CG trailer for SNC.
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>>97930251
IIRC she's characterized as a self-aggrandizing demagogue. Like a cult leader. What she gets from the Riveteers isn't just wealth and power, it's also a big bunch of people who will adore her and build big statues of her.
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Is this not the most poohbearsweatergirlcore thing you've ever seen? I absolutely love it
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Yeah and the big demon is just roaring off to the side, barely even looking at the guy. It could just as easily be Circle of Protection.
>needing words to explain what the art depicts
A failure from step 1
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I just realized, for a mechanic all about GOING FAST and SPEEDIN' and RACIN'
It's kinda weird that you can only increase your speed and cannot lose it, you'd think that'd be part of it
But then again, if the way it worked was "opponent hasn't taken damage in X turns" then you'd just end up with the day/night debacle againI actually really liked day/nightbut only when playing on Arena
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Ok, guys, I've been thinking. Maro said they'll be doing something they thought it wasn't possible for them in terms of tech and we saw some of those mirror shattering "leaks" so far and I think I figured out. They'll use that old pog tech to have to "cards" in the same card, like this gif. I can picture it already.
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Let's return to Innistrad.
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WOOO, THE GHOSTS ARE NOW COMING FROM TVs INSTEAD OF GRAVEYARDS! THE ZOMBIES HAVE MORE SPIKES!
Yeah yeah, whatever you say.
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>Suggesting WotC doesn't just assume all players just double sleeve all the cards by default.
They'd be premium cards if they did this, so at least you'd always have it on a penny sleeve.
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Haven't played legacy in a good while, but put this together for some FNMs around me. I kind of refuse to pay $40 for riddlers on principle though.
It's the 3rd place JP list from the legacy champs, but I grew up and played a 4th ponder.
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>Make all the removal dogshit that trades down against every threat because Arena players whine that control yucks their yum
>Woah suddenly the colors where their weakness is bad removal are dominating!
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>proxies
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8 > 1 > 5 > 2 > 6 > 3 > 7 > 9 > 4
4 is the only one I'd genuinely call bad just because the art seems to have nothing to do with the card, it's just an angry oni. 9 just feels a little off flavor, why is there a pirate? I don't like the way the demon is looking at me on 7. 3 is fine but I docked points for the dreadful flavor text.
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Toys are the third most common tribe in DSK, or fourth most common if survivors and humans are counted separately. The most common are humans and nightmares. But toys are more common than horrors, beasts, insects, spirits, demons, zombies, mutants, constructs, and any other sort of creature type.
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>third most common tribe
Should be first
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>>97932369
He simply wanted to be a toymaker...
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If the scarecrows in Dusmourn are made from people who replaced their body parts with random stuff to protect themselves from the House, why are they only made of like reeds and driftwood instead of materials and knickknacks that might be found within a modern living space? Like pieces of furniture, consumer goods, glass, construction materials from walls and floors and ceilings, etc.
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Why haven't they reprinted Goldenglow Moth since 2011, especially regarding the moth-themed set?
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>>97932755
Yes there is.
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>like sagas
>don't like UB
>overwhelmingly new sagas are released for UB
>even new inventions like saga creature cards are exclusive to UB
>there basically haven't been any new sagas that weren't made for UB since TDM
How do I get it across to Maro that I'm taking this personally and it's making me feel bad?
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Comfy.
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>>97928709
hol up those corner edges...is that a fucking proxy?
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>>97933274
Unironically I think anti-UW schizo is right about this.
>Magic story is a super repetitive loop of mid shit that even a lot of Vorthos don't remember details of
>Magic set design is perpetually trying to focus on shiny new thing happening with memberberries generally stopping at "dude we're going back to that plane you liked so much"
>Even the more mid UB usually has some notable existing stories people would want to see on a saga
>The whole point of a UB set is just recapping an IP rather than making a flashy new story you're trying to draw attention to
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>>97930669
I mean, there's, like, one card in the set that actually reduces speed. What's more annoying about it is that it's only once per your turn. If it was each instance of damage during your turn, it'd probably feel a lot better as a mechanic
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Any lore fags know if this is a reference to the avatar entering the water girl's secret passage?
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No, they BRIEFLY considered it, but it never left discussions.
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>>97933308
what the fuck was the point of dragging Muragana and Amonkhet into the set?
Car set being Return to Kaladesh (the place that started vehicles as a mechanic) would have been good enough
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MOM & MAT happened and then the Omenpaths became a thing, explorations of the multiverse's new status quo had largely been localized to a single plane at a time in the first few sets of this era, so in terms of narrative it probably made a lot of sense to have a set which tied several planes together in both the written storytelling and artistic presentation.
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It is the biggest clusterfuck and complete waste of multiple settings (at the same time) in recent memory. The race was pointless, the non Kaladesh planes were barely used and they spent a ton of time fleshing out the different racing factions and we will never see or use any of them ever again. Not to mention that the set its self is chock full of vehicles, which were already approaching the limit of design space before the set was even in development so what we got was 20% of the set being completely useless from a gameplay / card consideration perspective at a baseline.
Absolutely awful, abhorrent and wasteful all around.
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Amonkhet because they were important to the story.
Muraganda to test the waters on how the audience likes the set. They even included vanillas since they don't want to focus on that if it gets a full set.
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>>97934171
Coalstroke Gearhulk. Or maybe Pyrewood
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>>97934180
I guess, but it looks to be coming from his side and doesn't really have the same shape.
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>>97934248
If you look closely you can see the blue lights his tail has.
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I like Kaldheim angels.
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>>97933308
>could have given Chandra a sweet ass fire-belching hogg like a magic version of Wario's bike
>instead she gets a cyberpunk dildomobile
I guess losing your tits is like losing your balls for a dude, it makes you a PUSSY ASS BITCH
At least they actually managed to make Loot look cute instead of uncanny for a change
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>>97934371
This, but Manson one.
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Idk who she is but she seems fun
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>>97927284
Yup, it's shitbrew time
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>>97935106
That's past MH1 so not quite. I just despise the 2015 border and the philosophy shift to endless ETB value stapled onto creatures that you see rear its head even back at innistrad. 2015 is just a good end cutoff for me like premordern.
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Thank you, cancer
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>>97932369
I'm a little surprised there aren't more shapeshifters in the set. Doppelgangers and DnD-style mimics seems like they should be a shoo-in.
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Mark. Do Planechase.
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>>97935410
>It's fine when Jace does it.
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>>97935336
Thank God instead.
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>>97934974
I tried making one but I have no idea what I'm doing. I don't have anyone to play it with even if I did assemble it in person. I know I have way too many cards but it's difficult to cut them down
https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/df68584a-804d-4a99-a2c9-8047f5069928
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I fucking hate playing against this card like you wouldnt believe
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>Amonkhet pantheon
Jobbed to Bolas.
>Theros pantheon
Jobbed to Phyrexia.
>Kaldheim pantheon
Undefeated.
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sometimes I wonder if arena of glory was pioneer legal, would kroxa see more play like phlage?
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>>97935732
Most pushed attack trigger creature would tbqh, though in Phlage's case being able to deal 12 damage ans stabilizing (and often times ending the game) against aggro is one of the reason why the card is so good.
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>>97935620
Didn't Bolas create the Amonkhet pantheon in the first place?
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I think he's implying that the VVhite NVRDIC gods got DEI'd and became brown, which is a metafictional loss to George Soros' social incentives.The joke sort of misses because WOTC needs no financial incentive to be woke, they do it for free because they've always been true believers
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They are no better than their viking ancestors
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Vikings are UB, fuck off.
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>>97935645
I am playing on Sunday. What deck should I play? I've played the following before and don't wish to repeat.
Survival Aggro
Stasis
Blood Oath Sligh
UW Flippi
Blue Skies
Enchantress
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Goblins. But I regret having made the deck despite all of the cards now being worth 3x times more than they were when I bought them.
Everyone and their mother plays fucking Goblins. I'm tired.
I feel like I just want to sell the entire deck away and play something else but I'm not sure what.
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lmao I played against a stiflenought guy the other day and he complained that it was such a bad matchup against most other decks and people would just make him discard the key pieces or he couldn't draw the Dreadnought since there are only four of them in the deck.
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I'm a filthy digital player and I just do unranked so I have no idea if its a serious deck. I scoop against landfall if they get a good opener and against izzet spell bullshit regardless
it is ridiculously grindy. most games where I don't get run over I end up with 20-35 cards left in deck
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>gate-keeps the format
That is the point.
Bot gatekeeping has lead us to modern mtg.
If you can't afford entering the white paradise it is because you aren't welcome.
No shirt, no shoes, NO SERVICE aka we don't serve coloreds here.
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>premodern new friendos actin' all high and mighty now that they found a way to brag about money spent even when they missed the cheap legacy staples eons ago
weak. the only real gate keeped format for white men is the most expensive one. all others are tied for third worldies
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I'm an Arena-only pleb because I live in the middle of nowhere and the nearest LGS is a 2 hour drive away
But I am curious, how often do people play Azorius "oops, all removal" decks in person? Because half the people I queue into just have no wincon other than draw + pass + not let a single creature stick past turn 5, yesterday I got whittled down over 35 turns by a guy whose only creature was the 2/3 bird you get off Anchorage
Do people actually bring this kind of shit to social events and subject their friends to this torture, or is it an online-only plague since they'd get shanked irl?
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It used to be a deck, but nowadays it's mostly been taken over by Jeskai control where they want to strangle you out until turn 8 when they cast Jeskai Revelations and beat you to death with the resulting prowess monks.
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>peak
>a set made solely with the purpose of normalize star trek
you failed us anon
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Point still stands, do people actually do this in social settings with friends? I understand control being an archetype since the dawn of time, but surely people look forward to actually playing the game in their free time?
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Godhood in Kaldheim seems to be something like a mode of existence that can be attained by basically anyone. Like, it's shown that one of the elf gods was a regular person at first, and her apotheosis somehow involved giving up her sight. And one of the members of the "human" gods was never human at all but rather some Cosmos entity that took the shape of one.
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At my prelease last week, I took advantage of my opponents incompetence a few times and I'm wondering your thoughts. I attacked with everything and pumped one of my creatures, my opponent played a bunch of spells and none of my damage went through. But at the end of combat, my opponent said I pass the turn, I didn't correct him and proceeded to untap and draw. I won easily. Another game my opponent was keeping track of both life totals on his phone, I was using just a D20 for myself. I was at 7 and he had me at 11, because he failed to remember to count the last 4 damage last turn. I took 6 when I noticed the discrepancy and the turned my D20 to 5. I then swung for lethal with my unblockable snooping page and won. Had that 4 damage been counted the game would have been a draw. Also had an opponent use a 39 card deck because he failed to shuffle in a card. I felt that I could of pressed and claimed an illegal deck, but I didn't.
Is it important to point out your opponents mistakes? Or do you just let them mess up to your own benefit? I got a nice amount of packs at the end, so it seemed worth it to me.
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They're still cute.
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IRL everyone plays best of 3, so decks that are weak to control can adapt to it with an intelligently chosen sideboard.
Playing against control is an interesting and fun to develop skill. They're only really disliked by players who don't have a lot of experience.
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We need stronger planeswalkers
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nothing beats countering a spell with this while tapped out. absolute total domination + Terese Nielsen's icon art that defines Magic.
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>>97930351
Rabiah is completely out. Definitionally, per the Rabiah Scale. Wildfire probably will never be in, but it's less unlikely than Rabiah.
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If my deck is a midrange slop pile, how do I adapt to it, exactly?
Dead turns only benefit him, removal is always 1-to-1, ETBs don't happen and wide boards always trade down in mana and he can always filter for good cards
It doesn't help that 90% of people run U decks so I have slight Island fatigue at this point
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Ask yourself why it would be a draw.
I'll tell you that it's not, and it's pretty easy to figure out why it's not from there. Read the rules and learn how SBAs work if you don't already know.
In general, you shouldn't cheat, or angle shoot, because it means you're a bad player. A good player doesn't need to pull this kind of shit. Do you see Duke or Mengucci playing like this?
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I do run cavern, it's a tribal deck, but they usually have demolition fields lubed up; 2-for-1s don't happen because they can choose what to counter and what to let through (and then destroy), I guess I should aim for even more ETBs? I think my main issue is that the onus of playing perfectly is on me rather than them, they play with full information every turn (they don't play cards on their turn) so they can always make the correct decision
B discard sounds fun however
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>>97937902
The damage is dealt and when damage is dealt I lose one life at the exact same time. Both players at zero when SBA check for life totals. I wouldn't call it cheating, I just opting not to help my opponents when they fumble. But I guess even at the worlds they allow take backsies, so you're correct there.
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>>97937921
1-for-1? That sounds like something that isn't FIRE enough. My 1-drop forces my opponent to trade 2-for-1 unless they opened exactly Spell Pierce and went first.
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>>97937952
>it's a tribal deck
If it's a tribal deck it's probably a slow aggro deck, not a midrange deck
but yes they can remove your stuff, of course they can. You have currently been intimidated into the "they always have it" headspace, but they don't always have it.
Honestly, try playing some control. I think the UW version is pretty wildcard cheap. You'll quickly learn how to deal with that sort of deck, because people will deal with you.
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>>97938069
In my defence, it's easy to fall into the "they have it" mindset when he has so much draw and filtering, it feels like past turn 4/5 he's basically guaranteed to have what he needs if he's sniffed out the kinda deck you're playing: and I consider myself lucky since my deck is an absolute shitpile that is inexistent in the current meta, so I've definitely won before because the opponent didn't have a clue what the fuck I was even doing.
Another anon in another thread recommended I give RDW a try since it's much more cathartic when you get a nut draw, and much it's faster to determine whether you're winning or not, and it definitely feels much more honest than this
Thank you for your insight obviously, anon, wouldn't wanna discredit you
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>>97938415
>I'm struggling to play against control
>instead of learning, I will swap to the dumbest most linear deck in the format (less interactivity than BOGLES)
Classic new player trap
>wouldn't wanna discredit you
Fuck off back to wherever you came from. No one here has an accreditation you piece of shit. Why don't you tongue my anus with your fake-nice bullshit? Take your linear decks and shove them up your ass.
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Moseo.
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How well will the remaining universes beyond properties announced for this year will do?
Do you think that Final Fantasy will be topped this year or that UB will gain even more of a foothold in MTG?
Or will product fatigue finally rear its head on the performance of the remaining "mtg" sets this year?
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>>97938902
i dont trust the numbers, shit like spiderman and turtle are like IT BROKE NEW GROUND but when you look closer it was WoTC rug pulling wallmart and microcenter, i just wonder how many times they can pump and dump stocks on big retailers until they have enough
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>>97938608
for starters, seething song is banned in historic, so it's not like I can choose one over the other
but in my experience jeska's will is pretty damn good, since free interaction isn't very popular in historic, you're encouraged to combo off as early as possible, your opponent will usually have 3~6 cards in hand so as long as you have ruby or ral in play, it's at worst a +1 mana, and when you don't need mana, you can go for cards, the flexibility is awesome
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>type:goat
>17 cards where the card types include “goat”
That's not enough goats.
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>>97939056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db86lpidcz4
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Why are sheep stronger than goats?