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Work in Progress, Collage Update Edition
>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD
>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw
>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno
>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s
>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI
>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM
>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c
>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk
>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI
>How to Paint with Tremors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g
>Airbrush Priming and Thinning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8
>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny
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>>97924393
New collage-making tool is a great improvement. I was able to put together our OP in record time!
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>>97931828
the colors you see in a photo are completely dependent on lighting and even just viewing angle. just look at a corner of your room. you will see 2 different colors where the walls meet even though they were obviously painted the same color.
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Got him primed up finally, now I get to find all the mistakes I couldnt see before.
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Today and tomorrow will be the day to speedpaint this squad of Wargames Atlantic beastmen.
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Feeling pretty proud of this one.
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went through an absolute shitload of varnish on the torso today
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Unusual question - let's assume I want to cast, using blue stuff or similar material, element with connection holes, something similar to this one. Normally I was told to plug the holes, especially deep ones but I would later need them and precisely at location they should be. Manually drilling them later often ends with drilling slightly off or at slightly wrong angle or causing copies to break from strain, even when drilling gradually with slowly increased size of the bit.
How to deal with that problem? At very least, how to ensure that at least some sort of guidance hole will remain?
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>>97932478
Plug them most of the way, but leave the top part of the hole open, maybe like 1mm, or 1/16" of the hole. That way when you cast it you will at least have some reference or registration, but you're right that you'll never get any kind of deep holes casting that way.
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>>97932251
Good volumes, anon. I think the highlights on the sleeves would be better placed on top instead of at the end.
The face is good, but make sure you darken the upper eyelid more than the lower one. Even if you leave the lower out entirely, it'll still look fine.
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>>97932524
Some sort of clay would be best for such plugging? I have to be able to clear the hole later.
>>97932490
Straight cylindrical.
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>>97932287
It's mostly down to how glossy the material is. The stronger and sharper the highlights, the glossier something appears. Leather is usually fairly smooth and reflects light to a degree, while wool has a very diffuse surface that absorbs incoming light. To make these differences extra obvious, it's good to have materials next to each other, to show the contrasting differences.
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>>97932530
put a tube in there, and another tube inside that one, until you have a hole of a couple milimeters, plug that then with putty and press another couple mm inside
you will have a perfectly centered pilot hole for your drill later
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Done with this guy
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coming along nicely
just a bit more highlighting on the skin
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>>97932708
I should start working on my black templars at some point. Got sidetracked with old world so they have been collecting dust for over a year now
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>>97932715
Actually not a straightforward answer
At first I used a green grey, ak german field grey+white, because the cloth hue was very greenish due to having used black templar contrast for it.
But I didn't like the final colour, so I glazed all the cloth with some purple to balance the green and make it more neutral
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Do it!
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Finished the infernal razers. Not sure what to work on next.
I seriously don't know how I'll apply my scheme to urak taar.
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>>97932901
Still thinking about how I want to tackle this guy.
Would a purple bull with golden wings (not the arms of the wings, the middle parts would be gold) be a good fit? I was thinking if I do this I would have the rune effects glow green instead of the red here.
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>>97933145
Arms of the GW traitor set (as well as old and new cadians) are compatible with all the WGA Damned sets so far (except the ogres/ogryns ofc), accessories like the backpacks and cloaks with spikes also work.
I have not experimented with the heads yet, but the oddly shaped "Blooded" necks need some cutting for sure, but also cadian balljoint necks are too big and chunky sadly.
Head-size is similar, so nothing a hobby knife can't fix.
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Any idea of when they'll hit the stores? I took notice of these guys years ago, I just assumed they were an elaborate scam by now. Good to see the kickstarter went somewhere. Although I'm somewhat sad this probably means WGA and Reptilian Overlords won't do a plastic collaboration of RO's Heretics
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My compressor arrived in the mail, looking for some airbrushing advice.
Is a cardboard box with some foam/tissue paper to catch overspray good enough or should I get myself a more proper setup with a fan and shit before I start using it? Only planning to use acrylics so no toxic enamel fumes to worry about. Pic related is where I'll be working so I can get fresh air by just opening the door to the balcony.
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>>97933330
>Is a cardboard box with some foam/tissue paper to catch overspray good enough
For acrylics, yeah. If you gonna keep that window/balcony open, it'll be enough for the air quality, too. If not (or for winter time), get a respirator.
I would also recommend decanting the Citadel paints into dropper bottles, because as if these faggy pots weren't bad enough, they are pure suffering to use with airbrush.
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I have some sort of decision block, maybe you could help. Let's assume that there is some sort of friendly competition, with no prizes, etc. I could enter and do either a) project I always wanted to do but would involve a lot of recasting parts or scratchbuilding, not guaranteeing that I could finish it in time or b) against my own tendencies, make project by kitbashing existing spare parts and instead aiming to use as little scratchbuild elements as possible (because I have a flaw of overthinking every element of my projects, stretching them over months as a result). Which one would you choose?
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>>97933211
They said they will start to sell an army set and the vehicle indivdually as the first boxes, when everyone who backed the project received their minis.
And additionally, they recently posted its down to 100 boxes to ship (mainly canadians, and some guys whose extra sprues were not ready it seems).
So at least those two boxes should hit the stores soon-ish. Everything else will get an individual box release one set after another.
>Although I'm somewhat sad this probably means WGA and Reptilian Overlords won't do a plastic collaboration of RO's Heretics
True, but RO has neglected them for quite some years anyway. He never expanded that range properly, which is a shame.
But with the Heavy Infantry (some primed ones in this pic), you get some cool demon face facemasks, and somewhat german style helmets too.
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>>97933435
The prod is a really cool sci-fi weapon.
Leaf or pizza slice shaped tassets?
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>>97933455
Don't have a smaller pizza slice punch, but I had this one.
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I'd say if you know your working time and feel it's unlikely you'd finish, then go with the simpler idea.Mine's going to be a fairly straight build so far but I've yet to start.
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Got it. Thank you. In a way, it is also some personal challenge since I absolutely cannot get away from hoarding pieces and avoiding actually using them (or how my mind puts it, "wasting them" on non perfect projects).
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>Ideal relative environmental humidity level range for airbrushing is between 40% and 70%
>My country humidity is over 70% in all four seasons
What should i do? Sometimes it works fine, but other times the paint randomly dry, cracking, super matt whatever, it’s really frustrating
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I'm thinking about getting pingpong balls and airbrushing all my paints on to them to create a sort of chart for how the colors look in real life (and on a sphere for shading might be nice).
Am I being autistic or does that sound like it might actually be a useful thing to have on hand?
I could make mount them on sticks and slot them all into a grid on the wall or something with labels.
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Okay, you guys have convinced me to buy the redgrass palette so I can stop killing myself apparently with the absolutely useless AP one. Which one am I supposed to get? The V2 one? Is the membrane *actually* reusable?
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>mom found the painting handle
>screamed at me for a full 20 minutes before she finally let me explain what it was
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>>97934048
Yeah, I've had it for like 2 years and I still have a couple membranes leftover from the box(I paint almost every day). It's pricey but really fucking nice, it doesn't overload your paints with water and keeps the consistency you prepare for a while. If you don't mind the stupid pricetag it's a good buy. I'm not the anon that was shitting on the AP one, btw.
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>>97934023
Sure it would work, but why not just airbrush the caps of the paint pots? Plastic spoons are also very common for this, and they can be had for a lot cheaper than pingpong balls.
>mount them on sticks
As a kid with a pingpong table growing up, piercing the pingpong ball would ruin them. But you could make a nice wrack just but drilling out 1" diamter holes for them to rest in.
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>>97934068
Yeah, the plan (in theory) would be to mount them on sticks by 3d printing some kind of cone shaped bits, mounting them to the end of sticks (skewers or brass rod), and then just hot glued to the pingpong balls. Then have a board with all the holes drilled at a 45 degree angle with labels to keep them on the wall.
I do have spoons though so maybe that would be better and more convenient
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>What should i do?
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Window-Mounted-Conditioner-Mechani cal-Control/dp/B07N6KTC5V/
I don't know how you thirdies even manage to live with swamp air all the time.
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>>97934009
Thank you!
I'm using three paints to get this effect,
Black, Incubi Darkness(Citadel) and Blue Grey(Valejo).
Apply neat Incubi Darkness over Black, then mix 50/50 Incubi Darkness and Blue Grey and lastly pure Sea Grey on the sharpest edges and scratches, etc.
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>>97932901
Very nice work again, I'm still a fan of that metallic purple.
>>97932727
Skin looks great, the orange tones give it a nice pop.
>>97932708
Amazing work yet again, anon.
>>97932376
Damn, this guy is huge!
>>97932311
These are fantastic, I really like how you painted their power armor
>>97932251
Very solid work with some nice volumetrics, you should absolutely be proud of it.
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Much appreciated guys
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>>97934167
If you have a place to keep and use the airbrush then it is absolutely a worthwhile investment, but if you're in a small apartment or you paint in a place that doesn't have good ventilation then stick with rattle cans.
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>>97934417
Every apartment has a window, anon. Stop being silly. The second advice here >>97934295 is a lot more sensible. You should be getting an airbrush the moment you are certain you will stick with the hobby.
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>>97934644
>40 years old american getting yelled at for 20 minutes so loud they can't explain themselves by their mom that believes the expensive piece of junk they bought for their miniatures is a vape
That's not better.
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Post SOVL.
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>>97934991
I always recommend this guy, around $40 and a good work horse. It will go strong if you take care of it but not so expensive that it would break the bank if it breaks. And it takes standard fittings which is a plus.
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>>97934991
General advice is to buy something middle ground that have lots of cheap spare parts available because, as with normal brushes, starting out people have higher chance at accidentally damaging their tools. If it's a solid model, it could later serve as backup/priming/cleaning (because it's essentially airgun) airbrush, if you decide that you need more precision. Not some extra cheap model that would spend more time turned inside out for cleaning while you ponder why it refuse to work properly but some actually good stuff doing 0.5mm duty while your primary tool is busy with 0.2-0.3mm for details. Similar to how you buy "crop" camera at first (because it's cheaper than full frame and dedicated lenses are also easier to manufacture and thus cheaper as well) and then, after you learn enough and can decide if you really need full frame, can carry that telephoto lens while your FF is on UWA duty.
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>>97934991
Assuming you don't have serious doubts to whether or not you'll keep using an airbrush I'd say just get something decent straight away. The nozzle on the noname chinesium I started with was so fragile, and the floating nozzle on the H&S Evolution Silverline that then replaced it so much less fragile, that most of the learning happened on the latter anyway.
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>>97934809
dunno if this counts but week ago i decided to fullfill another of my my long lost dreams and finally try battlefleet gothic
i printed and binded the rulebook and i have made all the necessary markers and pretty much all the models for me and my friend to finally give it a try
game sounds like fun im and really looking forward to it
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>tfw lore-approriate local fauna
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>>97935142
Of all the GW games I've played, Battlefleet Gothic has one of the best rulesets. If you can get your hands on some of the supplemental books and magazines that GW released after the game had been out for a while, the small tweaks make it even better. Right away, I'd recommend limiting the number of fighters/bombers/assault boats in play to the number of launch bays on all ships combined.
It takes a while to get the hang of, so you'll likely be running back to the rulebooks a lot during play, but it's pretty satisfying - especially in Imperial vs. Chaos fleet engagements where the fleets' strengths and weaknesses are fairly balanced and there's no weird stuff in play.
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how's this look for a first pass on a mane?
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>>97934991
it never makes sense to buy shit tools unless it's something you will intentionally be destroying when you use it. it makes even less sense with an airbrush where a top of the line one only costs like $250 and you can frequently get a good one for only $100.
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>>97935274
>Of all the GW games I've played, Battlefleet Gothic has one of the best rulesets
my heart always goes to mordheim no questions asked but BFG seems like really straightforward simple game with surprising depth and campaign potential to it
> I'd recommend limiting the number of fighters/bombers/assault boats in play to the number of launch bays on all ships combined
will do and thank you for the beginner tips anon and i like your fleet
no need for armybuilder on this game is also a big plus
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>>97934250
He's getting bigger
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what wires do you guys recommend if I wanna do my nightlords like this?
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Ebay rescue, the hand cannons are growing on me. Everything's going into boxes for a move across the country, but I plan to get this guy done. Glue was a pain, I need to sand or otherwise fix the foot connections.
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>>97935711
Compressor, a spray bottle/squeeze bottle for cleaning, a tupperware or small bucket to dump rinse water in, airbrush thinner, rubbing alcohol for cleaning, synthetic brush for mixing and cleaning (an old big round brush works, like a size 6 or 8), paper towels for cleaning, flow improver if you're in a dry climate, needle juice/light machine oil/sewing machine oil (not a hard requirement but I find it does help keep everything smooth).
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>>97935869
I'm not blaming you for this, I know you probably didn't have much choice, but god damn, did GW just forget how to have multiple poses? Not only are they all basically the same, they're the same as virtually every single new individual space marine model as well.
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I want to paint something different from the usual GW stuff. Is there a range of models of similar quality? Scale doesn't have to be the same. I want to paint something beautiful instead of grimy. KD miniatures are a bit too coomer for me.
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>>97935924
>Is there a range of models of similar quality
Most of the middle range and above scale models are better quality than GW. If you really want to splurge (=pay slightly less or roughly the same as for Citadel stuff) and get a peak model, then pretty much anything modern by Meng or Takom, really.
>something beautiful
You could check some top tier 3D sculptors who also sell STLs or finished prints, like Archvillain Games. They have ridiculously large range of scifi/fantasy models, and they are all incredible. And you can get them printed in case you don't have you own printer.
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>>97935917
As opposed to
>Standing
>Standing
>Running
>Running
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>But you can rotate the chest slightly!
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>>97935729
the original owner put the metal railguns on the arms. I'm keeping it that way (I have two other XV-88s with shoulder mounted railguns). This guy will just be special.
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>>97936199
The compressor you will buy is exactly the same compressor every body gets, at most with a different label. Every small airbrush compressor (with a tank) is the exact same product. There is literally only a single option.
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>>97936199
I use this one. It's meant for tools like nail guns and drills but you can bush it down to 1/8th airbrush fittings and adjust the pressure way down. Only thing it needs is an in-line moisture trap. It gets up to pressure quickly, has a far bigger tank than hobbyist compressors and is fairly quiet.
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Got my Rinzler autarch mostly done. Still have to make the under armor a little darker, and gloss the base and faceplate. I got another set of Identity Discs printed up so I can start working on my storm guardians. I don't have any army glamor shots yet, but shouldn't be long now until the project is done.
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>>97934167
Just get it anon. I've only been using mine for a month or two and I don't know how I ever got by without one.
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>>97936315
Already ordered one alongside a bunch of paint and stuff. Going to go to the local game store to buy some minis tomorrow or saturday. Any suggestions?I already know what kit I want to buy but I'm probably going to paypig for another
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>>97932901
Gorgeous.
>>97936464
The fact that you needed to specify "modern" means you like the Warcraft aesthetic in general, which explains why you hate cool shit.
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>>97936210
wdym I brought up this video reviewing 14 different ones and there's plenty more that he didn't even look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3hMRQZudiE
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>>97936462
Picrel, but I haven't done the oils yet, waiting to be done with the acrylics on all the trim first.
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>>97936468
Let me be more clear: They are painted well but they look like assets from a shitty video game like (any year) WoW (which I don't like) or clash of clans or some similarly cartoonish, overly blocky and simple, colourful, childish, style. It doesn't match my preferred style and I believe it looks like shit in a Warhammer setting. Nevertheless very well painted.
I'm not a hater, for example this looks good to me and belongs in Warhammer:
>>97932708
I just don't like those chorfs, or any of those gay AoS balloon dwarfs or any shitty digital AoS art. And if you do, you are homosexual(bad) and factually incorrect.
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>>97936655
>they look like assets from a shitty video game like (any year) WoW (which I don't like) or clash of clans or some similarly cartoonish, overly blocky and simple, colourful, childish, style. It doesn't match my preferred style and I believe it looks like shit in a Warhammer setting.
you're actually a retard
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>>97936659
You appear to be confused. Please refer to my conclusion:
>I just don't like those chorfs, or any of those gay AoS balloon dwarfs or any shitty digital AoS art. And if you do, you are homosexual(bad) and factually incorrect.
You will see it logically follows that you are actually the one who is retarded (and gay).
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>>97936663
This has to be a falseflag, nobody's this autistic
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>>97936694
I do not identify as any of those things. Because I'm not gay and can enjoy any number of traditional games. However AoS is and always will be gay.
>>97936698
You do you, lil bruh.
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>like assets from a shitty video game like (any year) WoW (which I don't like) or clash of clans or some similarly cartoonish, overly blocky and simple, colourful, childish, style.
I 100% agree with this anon and honestly im quite unsure why do you retards pretend hes spouting autistic nonsense.
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Current working on some guard shock troopers and it's killing me. If I rush them I'm disappointed in my results; if I take my time I'm demoralised by the horde yet to go. Can't wait to pick up some vehicles so I can take my time and still feel that sense of progress
Anyone else get similar when dealing with hordes?
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>engaging trolls
Retarded newfags
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>>97936815
>nononononono this cant be happening, gwsisters theres people who dont like our beloved company models! get them!!!!!!!!!!!!
>in fact, it is so utterly impossible that several people do in fact dislike them, that I'll assume theyre all the same person, yes that must be it
unironically, literally, and unequivocally: kys
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>>97936847
why do you paint?
is it to field an amry for a game 'tomorrow'? is it because you like painting? can you go to that game with unpainted models? have you considered you can paint them like shit today, and strip them later in smaller batches to paint them to a better standard?
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>>97937324
No, it is not. Chinks do rebrand fuckload of compressors, yes, but that mostly applies if you are buying the cheapest dogshit available. This is the usual "everything is made by chinese / why my X is not working properly" nonsense pipeline.
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Started working on a small addition to my guard army.
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>>97935174
Do it. Incorporate it.
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>spray painting a bunch of terrain
>suddenly having trouble pushing the nozzle
>try with other hand
>rattle can works
>my fucking finger jammed
What the fuck
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Finally almost happy with the venom effect. Probably spending too much time on it for the overall progress but whatever. Now to decide if I keep the mottled look for the body or smooth it out.
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>>97935274
oh boy i sure do hope this pays out because i went all in on this one
on the other hand it will be pretty cool to have your fleet standing next to your army on a display cabinet even if you dont play the game
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Lots of really rough spots on this one, but they should be covered up by the time I'm done
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Fairly happy with this one. Couple spots I could fix up.
Thinking green monoeye for the cockpit?
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That mini's base coat was really messed up from repeated gluing back together and pinning, I really would strip it but I think it'll still turn out okay? Kinda sucks because I'm planning on spending 80~ hours on it
I'm pretty happy with a lot of random tiny spots on this mini. I think it's pretty interesting from a lot of different angles
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Still a lot to do. The big one in the middle here is what I'm most concerned about for the cockpit colour, and I'd like the rest to match it. Not sure how I'll do a convincing glowy eyeball in that lil slit. Bleh
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>need some space marines to sit
>start cutting away and re-sculpting
>the entire mini falls apart because the design is just retarded
Space Marines are seemingly only able to stand heroically (with legs wide apart), run threateningly, or shoot (from the hip) to not to look like shit.
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Yeah, torso/arms are not an issue; it's the legs. (Primaris) Space Marines seem not to possess much in the hips and gluteal muscles. I could work around that. But the main problem is that the greaves are just SILLY thick and wide (nearly exactly as wide as the torso without the powerpack lmao) when sitting, which results in a really bad, cartoonish look.
I really did not want to sculpt and print this.
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>>97938022
Nah I wouldn't do one of my little beelzebros like that. I'd just dropped some panel liner into the muscle striations on the mini a d I think maybe he landed and got stoned off the enamel fumes for a few minutes. I was actually stroking his wings and he was just chilling, waving his front legs around
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The slayers are done!
>>97933435
Kitbashing Chaos is always fun.
>>97935142
Nice markers. I remember playing with flimsy black-and-white fast prints. Fun is fun.
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>>97935683
This is what 32 awg wire looks like, the finest I have. You will need something even finer maybe 34 or even 36 or more. It might even be the braided hairlike wire used in shielding jackets, like those in every usb cable. If you've got an old obsolete charging cable you might find what you need in that.
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>>97939121
Might be the thinnest floral wire that you can get, but it would be flimsy as fuck and would probably snap if you thought about it too hard.
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special technique: scrape it with a knife
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>>97939193
thinnest store bought wire ive got is 0.4mm and that could do the trick
t. eri
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>>97939121
I don't have a plasma gun but this should be a similar size.
0.1mm enamel coated copper wire for windings/magnets/cores and that kinda thing.
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>>97935683
strip and old motor or transformer (like the ones for old routers), you will have a couple wire thicknesses in there that will help
some wires may have a suitable thickness too like some ethernet cable or those wires that come with electronic kits for breadboards
also an old heating element may have nicrom wire as low as .2mm, from a small hairdryer or a toaster
the core of some guitar strings too, they come in several sizes and are a lot more stiff than copper, would be better for this application
scavenging wire is always a good thing in this hobby
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wire shielding mesh like this anon suggests is most likely too thin and way too soft
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;w; it's
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>>97939236
FWI 32 awg is 0.202mm in diameter. Imo from my photo and the reference you need something smaller. 38awg is 0.101, like in this photo >>97939226.
Having used some of this magnet wire not too long ago, its stiffness can be irritating.
>34 awg is 0.160mm
>36 awg is 0.127mm
But it would also be hella over kill to buy a huge ass roll of this for just one mini. You could probably get the same effect by dragging a hair through super glue. Or perhaps you could get a thin slice of store ribbon, that stuff is flexible and strong (the kind you curl with scissors for wrapping presents).
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>Narrator: He was not up to it