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>>2874825
Are there still any differences between regions of Japan ? Like dialect and lifestyle?
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>>2874837
Lifestyle differences are pretty much just like in any modern nation with rural vs. urban.
There are different dialects, but it is not as extreme as it used to be under the Shogunate. They teach every child the "standard" Tokyo dialect these days so someone from bumfuck Kyushu and another from smack dab Sapporo can have a conversation. There may be some dialectual oddities in how words or sentences are ended, or words that have one meaning in standard anf another locally. Or words that only exist in 1 dialect, but are nonexistant elsewhere.
So mostly no, but maybe just a little.
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>>2874825
Am I crazy or is this map a troll?
I thought Kanto was the region near Tokyo
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/famchiki/ gang
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>>2874848
It says Tokyo right under Kanto doesn't it?
Maybe they had to try and fit the names where ever and didn't pay it much mind
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How do you visit tokyo if you don't speak japanese
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>>2874886
learn a little japanese and get used to pointing at menu items
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>>2874886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4
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>try to get tickets for shibuya sky ages ago
>oh seems like they only go on sale two weeks before but looks like it's chill
>fast forward to last 2 weeks of my trip
>oh yeah i did want to take care of shibuya sky
>everything gone, even 2 weeks from now when I fly is already at just a few left
God damn it. Should I bite the bullet and just get a morning ticket or whatever? Still a few of those left but don't think it would the same.
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Uji was nice. Ran into a few nips who brought a mega Kumiko to the kumiko bench for a photoshoot. Some chink girls cosplaying the lesbian couple were taking photos there as well earlier.

Keihan is also running a hibike collab atm, though there's not much to it.
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>>2874916
Saw some cardboard cutouts of the characters for that show in Uji last year, is it worth watching?
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>>2874922
It is one of the better KyoAni shows. And the side story movie is in my top 3 anime movies, though it's a bit divisive.
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>>2874837
You can argue that regional differences are increasing due to the modern "meibutsu" mindset.
Every town scrambles to package up and sell how they are different from the rest of Japan.
Historically, Japan had two centers, Tokyo and Kansai. Nowadays, the Tokyo dialect is considered the prestige dialect that people in business and on news and government broadcasts speak. Kansai accent is still spoken in the entertainment capital over in Osaka, so a lot of celebrities speak it and you hear it on tv a lot. All the other various dialects around the country don't have the same prestige, and are considered "just dialects". Even if they are a point of pride or embarrassment, people in the regions, especially in the cities, avoid dialectical terms and phrases. There are even a lot of younger people who soften their accents to be closer to Tokyo pronunciation.

Generally, the further you get from Tokyo or Kansai, the more out there the dialects become. If you asked any Japanese person what the most difficult to understand dialect was, they would either say Tsugaru dialect, spoken on the Tsugaru peninsular in the far north of the country, or Satsuma dialect, spoken on the Satsuma peninsular in the far south.
Hokkaido was colonized fairly recently in history, mainly by people from Kanto, Tohoku, and Chubu, so the Hokkaido dialect is essentially just the Tokyo dialect pronounced with a weird, colonial accent. Okinawa dialect still has a lot of creole elements with the old Ryukyuan languages, and is fairly difficult to understand.
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>>2874825
Just got back from Kyoto.
It has never been more over, bros.
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>>2874915
Of all the sites that called "pointless waste of time tourist traps", shibuya sky is probably the most deserving.
Don't bother unless you have an insta account.
It is really not that hard to find a sunset lookout in and around tokyo.
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>>2874929
Care to explain? I went to Kyoto during June of last year and it was standard tourist trap filled with Chinese and cuntish westerners
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>>2874886
KORE ONIGAISHIMAS
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>>2874938
Sounds about right. My first time going back in over a decade. I wasn't prepared. It's closer to Disneyland than a city now. I don't know how anybody can actually live there without going insane
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>>2874941
Well, indeed Fushimi Inari Taisha and Kiyomizudera are overfilled with foreigners and I still remember clearly how the ticket seller at Kiyomizudera wasn't pleased at all to attend me. Luckily, almost 85% go to those two places and when I was there I went to other less known places and basically it was just me and some Japanese boomers doing exercise. Pretty cool desu
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>>2874886
konn-ee-chee-wa = Good afternoon / Hello

o-hi-oh go-zai-maas = Good morning (polite)

konn-bahn-wa = Good evening

ah-ree-gah-toh go-zai-maas = Thank you (polite)

jah ma tah = See you / Goodbye

soom-ee-mah-senn = Excuse me

go-men-uh-sai = I'm sorry

hai = Yes

ee-eh = No

kor-ay oh koo-duh-sai = This one, please

ee-kuu-rah dess-kah? = How much is it?

[Toilet] wa doh-ko dess-kah? = Where is the [Toilet]?

toh-ee-reh = Toilet

oh-mee-zoo oh-neh-guy-shee-maas = Water, please

wa-ka-ree-mah-senn = I don’t understand

ay-go o-ha-na-seh-maas-kah? = Do you speak English?
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>>2874942
>and Kinkaku-ji
>and Arashiyama
>and Nishiki Market
>and Nijō Castle
>and Tetsugaku-no-michi
>and that stupid rock garden
I get what you're saying, but when all of the main attractions are swamped like that, it becomes harder and harder to justify the trip there. I prefer Osaka, as it's a much bigger city and feels less congested with foreign tourists
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>>2874947
Gion is over as well
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>>2874947
Are we still MUH FOREIGN TOURIST posting in 2026 god damn
Nothing makes my day better than being out in the inaka and some lanky, pale as death Norwood IV sees me and gives me a death glare grimace with his crooked teeth for 'spoiling' his pure untainted Japan
Get dunked on you dysgenic mutant
Literally been doing Kyoto these last few days and it's no worse than a lot of spots in Tokyo. I think you're getting yourself worked up for no reason over shit that never happened. Then again you may just be too poor to even visit Japan and you're simply doomposting to cope.
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>>2874974
>ummmm akshually Shibuya Crossing has even more tourists than some parts of Kyoto so that means Kyoto doesn't have an overtourism problem, OKAY!?!?! U are....LE POOR LARPER!!!
Here for 3 months, faggot
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>>2874986
If you define 'problem' as 'i saw a white person today' then sure.
Anyway go to the Kyoto railway museum is my recommendation for tourist escapes if you get upset being within breathing distance of another human being. Sure there's foreigners but you'll be too busy looking at trains to sperg. Trains are like a pacifier for autistics.
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Stop being faggots and check out this cat I saw
>Did this fucking gaijin just pspsps me?
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>just got back in February
>won't be able to visit again until at least fall 2027

Senpai, what do I do for another year and a half? Plan the ultimate trip? Practice Japanese?
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>visa free travel is ded
As if I wasn't already jaded.
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>>2874848
>>2874862
Yeah, the map is kinda messed up, I think due to the "Find by Area" menu taking up space. The Kanto list should really be where Kinki is, and Kinki should be just to the right of Chugoku
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>>2875057
>reading comprehension of the average /trv/ poster
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I larped as a Japanese and the tourists ate that shit up. Got free cigs and entrance to club they invited to
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>>2875066
Don't piss in my face and call it rain. You're paying 3000 yen and filling out the same information as a visa.
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>>2875057
Who cares?
"oh no i have to spend a few minutes filling out a form and pay 30 bucks."
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>>2875074
You should care. Visa free travel no longer existing is erosion of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. We're taking a step backwards. You're less than a bird.
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>>2875075
>noooooo people should have free reign to go wherever they want and do whatever they want
>noooooooo i don't want to take that "right" for myself I want the government to provide it for me
Every country should have walls along their entire border to keep foreigners who can't act civilized out.
Chances are quite high that if filling out a form and paying 30 bucks is a barrier to entry for someone then they are undesirable to let in in the first place.
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>>2875078
>Chances are quite high that if filling out a form and paying 30 bucks is a barrier to entry for someone then they are undesirable to let in in the first place.
this, hopefully it filters out the faggots that shit on the culture and litter everywhere.
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>>2875078
>>2875080
>I like being a slave to the beancounters
You guys almost convinced me you hated jews.
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>>2875081
Lel, what a leap to make.
Next you're gonna tell me hitler wanted open borders for third worlders?
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>>2875057
What exactly are these Human Rights?
>>2875075
Even before this, "visa free" is still up to the discretion of the A. Airline and B. Immigration officer.
A. The airline can actually deny to board you if you are trying to fly with no visa and no Round-trip ticket.
B. The Immigration officer can deny you entry too for a laundry list of reasons, and send you back on the next flight.
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I got aick and nose hasn't stopped dripping in 2 days. What medicine should I get?
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>>2875113
Strong Zero
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>>2875113
Antihistamines
You are probably reacting to the japanese cedar or some other spring pollen
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>>2875113
Schoolgirl panties. Worn on the face like a mask. Every Jap does this.
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Any of you lads got some advice for Tohoku? For a dead of Winter Late Jan-Feb trip.
Please gimme your absolute best Unique, "Wow!", or 'I could only do that here' locations (minus miyagi).
I'm thinking I'll get the 10 day JR east pass and I want to be sold on which of the different cities/prefectures to visit.
I have travelled Japan a fuckton, so only want things thats are real impressive/unique.

Long version of question with details to follow, for anyone who likes helping in depth.

Have a sunset over Lake Shikotsu for your troubles.
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>>2875126
I have travelled the rest of Japan pretty extensively. But the only Tohoku prefecture I've visited is Miyagi, with Sendai as my base.
For part of my next trip I was looking at the 10 day Kanto/Tohoku pass. Maybe a loop, up the centre/east side and then come down the west side.
I would be there late Jan and into Feb.

Current ideas:
Yamagata - Zao fox village (technically miyagi), Zao mountain snow monsters, Ginzan onsen. - 3 days
Miyagi - Skip
Iwate - Ryusendo cave and a section of sanriku coast railway. - 2 days
Aomori - Only Takayama Inari shrine currently. But I feel like I've seen cool Aomori places mentioned before. - Currently 1 day
Akita - ??? Resort shirakami from Aomori to here would be nice, but not sure what to do when there. Currently 1 day for train journey.
Niigata (Not technically tohoku, but should be) - ??? I feel like there should be stuff and that I'd heard of stuff previously, but browsing google maps and searches doesn't yield anything overly interesting.

So I currently only have 7 days of stuff, and want to be sold on what should fill the other 3.
I want to know what are the most amazing, most beautiful, most unique things you know of or saw in these areas.
I've seen so much of Japan that "random decent templeshrine #48", "forest walk to decent falls/lake #18", and "Japanese small city scape #87" all aren't much reason to travel somewhere specifically for, as I'd rather just revisit highlights at that point. I want unique or real wow factor.

Preference would be less moving around. So if any of Iwate, Aomori or Akita can provide at least 1-2 more days each that'd be great.
But I'm open to hopping between areas if there is only 1 days worth of truly interesting things in it. Because while I don't want to a checklist fag, I have visited so many prefectures/capitals that I'm now partial to completing the list, if there's at least 1 very strong reason to.

Photo 'A friend of mine' took from the top of Gluck kingdom.
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>>2875087
What the fuck are you talking about. Hitler didn't hate overreaching bureaucracy. He hated Jews, not jews.
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>>2875097
Here's the 30 that you could have easily found if you knew how to use the internet. Pay close attention to Article 13 that the Japanese government agrees with.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/human/univers_dec.html
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>See gaijin with belly twice the size of his chest in game store
>He has an entire basket of PS2 games and counting
>Hello cashier? One copy of ace combat for the gaijin me. Arigato
>Head upstairs to keep shopping in other sections
>Come down after 10 minutes
>He is still there now sorting through his mass of games.
Can other gaijins just not?
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>>2875180
pot calling the kettle white
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>>2875134
>Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State
Within each state. Not country. State. That implies you've already been granted entry or were born there.
>Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
LEAVE. Not enter. You have a right not to be held hostage arbitrarily.
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>>2875186
Learn English. They capitalized State for a reason. Or, you could just Google the translation. It's the most translated document in human history. Over 500 languages this is written in. And after doing so, you can throw some other bullshit argument at me, like social contract or whatever, but in the end, no entity on this planet has the right to deprive you of moving like a bird.
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>>2875187
They used the word country in the very next sentence. If they meant to say country they would have.
And it doesn't change the fact that they said INSIDE.
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>>2875187
>no entity on this planet has the right to deprive you of moving like a bird
No entity on this planet has any "rights" by default. Rights are nothing more than a permission slip granted by whoever holds power in a given region.
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>>2875189
>blah blah social contract
You're so cute.
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>>2875187
>>2875192
>bullshit argument, like the social contract
>noooo people are born with rights
You have no argument, retard. lol
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>>2875193
I think I made it pretty clear what my argument is; I don't think the administrative entities on this planet have earned their legitimacy, and use fear to enslave us. Anyone who disagrees with me, is a disgusting golem.
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>recent trip not too long ago
>already looking at street walking videos again and reminiscing
man
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>>2875196
You're a whiney argumentative bitch then? I won't waste my time responding to you further.
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>>2875199
So, your whole social contract is set in stone. The public shouldn't gather in a forum and discuss the limits of each entities power in the system. I'm sure that will go without a hitch.
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>>2875134
What does this have anything to do with visas? What it means is that the country you live in can't tell you that you can't move to this city, you must live in the bumfuck village. It has absolutely nothing to do with crossing borders.

You sound like a guy who would try to justify entering women's baths because you're guaranteed freedom of movement.
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>>2875199
I have learned to not argue with people on here, I just simply leave a reply calling them a retard and move on.
It's not worth the time and effort with how brain dead some of the idiots who use this website are.
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>>2875187
But you're not a bird and you don't have wings, so in order to travel you have to move across the surface of the earth. That surface happens to contain the homes and societies of many other people. You make your way across the earth's surface by the consent of the people around you, and border entry is merely a formalized form of obtaining consent from the villagers. That's how it has always been among human society. It's an egomaniacal delusion to think that god has granted you a special right to do as you please with no regard for the consent of others.
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I should have known better, but damn, Kabukicho really is that much of a shithole huh.
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went to pontocho
is it just a massive tourist trap?
wanted to have a decent meal while drinking but everything was expensive with fuckall portion size

also i got nihongo jozoud by spouting nonsense
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I'm going to Japan but I don't know how to use chopsticks. Am I cooked?
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Genuinely what goes on here?
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Bros, please be honest. Can I go to Japan to larp as a lonely salaryman or anime protag and just move from internet cafe to internet cafe for 90 days? I am Asian, so I can blend in. Also I have inheritance money so expenses won't be an issue.
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>>2875258
No, under Article 13 of the Universal Human Rights you can't do that.
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Finally going on a trip this year in October to both Tokyo and Osaka. Any last minute advice or recommendations?
Major things already planned are Disney, I'm trying to go see an anime musical there too if possible as well.
Also how are the aquariums, I keep seeing horror stories when looking them up from reddit and I wanna know how true that shit is. Mainly Tokyo Sea Life and Osaka Aquarium are the ones I have my eye on going to.
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>>2875256
TOP THINGS TO DO IN NAGOYA:
NUMBER 1: LEAVE
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>>2875273
>October
>last minute
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>>2875273
Tokyo:
1. Shibuya: Tokyo's Time Square, neon, shops, restaurants. Meiji shrine.
2. Shinjuku: Shibuya's seedier cousin. I would just avoid going to bars in Kabukicho if you like not being scammed.
3. Asakusa: Old Town, big temple.
4. Harajuku/Omote-Sando: Fashion district.\
5. Tokyo Tower and Imperial Palace
6. Ginza: Dept stores/shops
7. Akihabara: Anime otaku area
Osaka:
1. Osaka Castle
2. Dotonbori: Osaka's times square, lots of restaurants, Octopus Balls
3. Tsutenkaku Tower: kushikatsu restaurants, Shitennoji Temple and Zoo nearby
4. Shinsaibashi: Lots of bars and live music
5. Minoh Falls: paved hike shrouded in trees to a waterfall
6. Denden Town: Anime otaku area
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>>2875273
>Osaka Aquarium
Was there a couple days ago. Bunch of people, 80% inbounds when I went in at 6 pm. Not horribly crowded compared to some other places, plenty of place to sit around the center tank with the whale sharks across multiple floors.

Overall it's fine.
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>>2875256
- Castle.
- Pretty nice temple complex with the Kusanagi no Trugi (not that you see it).
- The best cosplay event in the world.
- Pretty good weeb shopping area.
- Miso katsu.

Worth a full day stop if your trip is on the slightly longer side and you are passing through anyway.
Or easy worth staying a full weekend if seeing the cosplay event.
I won't lie and say it's the best city ever, but the 'soooo boring' meme is overblown. If we are talking about whats in just the city/suburbs it beats out plenty of other big cities
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taking a trip september-october, when i say "days" im counting arrival and departure days so 5 days might be arrival day, 3 full days, departure day - 5 days
>land in tokyo - shinagawa 5 days - going to a NPB game
>kyoto 5 days
>osaka 5 days - nara day trip & himeji day trip
>hiroshima 4 days - miyashima day trip
>kanazawa 4 days
>nagano 4 days - matsumoto day trip
>sendai 5 days - yamadera half day & matsushima bay day trip
>tokyo 5 days ueno, 6 days shibuya, 6 days shinjuku
i know this is a big trip, 40 days total. I know im staying alot in tokyo the back half of the trip, so im looking for some day trip ideas, wanting to do Nikko and Mt Takao, when im going fuji is closed
any other day trip ideas or cool things anon would recommend?
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>>2875305
Mt Fuji desu?
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>Digital nomad in Japan
>Fall on ice hurt my arm badly
>Deal with it keep working and walking around the city I'm in
>Costs a bit and the weather is hit or miss but get some fun stuff in while trying to hit public transit on time
>Rent a car
>Drive around keep hugging the shoulder because I can't tell where the curb is from the right hand steering wheel
>Hit a curb
>Toyota rentacar seems ok with it
>Go to a different city via train
>Take a taxi to one spot and realize that cost me more than I was planning on spending on food the whole trip
>Go on bus and have to get off early to make sure I can pay with cash
>Cash doesn't work, not the newer bills
>Try to speak Japanese with what limited knowledge I have
>Doesn't really work, I just don't know enough, I can get in 1 phrase and expect a yes or no and then instead I hear about the grass flowing in the wind or something.
>7 days no shit twice in a row
>Use my limited Japanese to demand a constipation medicine
>Get the weakest one, doesn't work until hours later when I'm on a train
>Didn't shit myself but scared
>Get a little bored of the city / Park routine
>Keep trying to make every weekend great by working Friday and then staying up all night Saturday to have more time.
>Way too much awake time, didn't sleep enough the previous night, very tired until about 1.
>On the train back after meal
>Pass out and have to have someone get me off, fall twice
>Idek what happened, paramedics show up and police
>Be honest and tell them I'm very sleepy and I didn't drink enough water
>Very very sleepy
>Tell them I have insurance to not be a bad foreigner to take their medical insurance idk how that works
>They clear me and say you're fine to go if you don't want to go to the hospital
>I have a few minor cuts and bruises, not too bad
>Hit my head a little, hope it's not awful
>Stopped a train for like 30 people, I am the bad foreigner
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>>2875335
I'm just getting annoyed with not being able to make less mistakes, I feel really embarrassed when I make those mistakes especially when other people have to help me but idk what to do in that situation. I feel really bad I hope I'm not being seen as the bad foreigner type.
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>tfw my cheap chinese laptop just died after 2 years of use
I almost ordered a replacement online but remembered I'm going to Japan next month. Any of you fags ever do any laptop shopping at Hardoff or anything? Thinking about getting a used thinkpad or dell latitude or something.
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>>2875339
the keyboards are usually japanese so I wouldn't daily drive one
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How do you deal with answering the same questions over and over again? Every time it's the same jouzu, do you live in japan, oh where did you come from then, where did you learn japanese. I know they don't mean anything bad but I honestly feel relieved when I don't have to go through the same 5 minute conversation with everyone.
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>>2875327
Seems a bit silly splitting the tokyo trip between three towns that are all 20 minutes away from each other anyway.
If I had that much time in tokyo, I would find some shitty 1DK Airbnb and just larp as a depressed salaryman for several days.
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>looking for airbnbs in Tokyo
>find a nice deal in Edogawa
>apartment looks solid, decide to book it
>finally get around to reading the Edogawa wiki
>"about 10% of the people of Indian origin in Japan and about 30% of the people of Indian origin in Tokyo Metropolis, reside in Edogawa Ward"
>mfw
It's been nice shitposting with you, bros
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>>2875384
Ser
lovely indian restaurant next door
very good japan experience ser
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>>2875384
>airbnbs
kek
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>>2875386
What's wrong with them?
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>>2875347
for 日本語上手 you git gud until you can reply with いいえいいえ、これぐらい最低限にすぎません。
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>>2875327
>when im going fuji is closed
How late in September do you arrive? I hiked fuji on 10th of September 2023 and it was A-ok. With how the last few summers have been, I imagine it will be fine hiking well into september. As long as you can still book a hut you're good. Which for 2023 as an example, were offering reservations further into september, despite the 10th technically being the 'closing day'. Something to keep in mind, you might be able to make it work on the first tokyo stay.

>Tokyo 5 days
Seems short, why not move some of the second tokyo visit to this one? Unless you need to head off elsewhere to see a specific event?
>kyoto 5 days
Seems excessive to me, but you do have plenty of days overall, so if you think you can fill it do so i guess. Surely day trips to fill this in too?
>osaka 5 days - nara & himeji day trips
would add a little here. Could also add a kobe day, leaving only 2 actual osaka days.
>hiroshima 4 days - miyashima day trip
Maybe long unless you have more day trips planned (can recommend sandankyo gorge)
>kanazawa 4 days
Good shit. Could probably cut 1 day + scrape a few days from elsewhere to add Fukui, toyama etc, make full use of a hokuriku arch pass.
>nagano 4 days - matsumoto day trip
Personally think Matsumoto is a better base for the area, has Narai-Juku and kamikochi which are incredible day trips. Nagano basically has togakushi
>sendai 5 days - yamadera & matsushima day trip
yeah pretty good.
>tokyo 5 days ueno, 6 shibuya, 6 shinjuku
Moving like this seems unnecessary, especially when you already do a tokyo visit where you could perhaps stay east side, then do west side on second tokyo visit.

You may already have it in mind with many days in some areas that probably dont need them, and such a long trip.
But don't underestimate having a straight up chill rest day where you barely do anything but go out for food, maybe sit at a park, watch some japanese tv at accommodation. Its so good

1/2 because I ramble
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>>2875327
>>2875419
You could also easily cut a couple days from the second Tokyo visit to add Nagoya and Okayama, to hit every major stop along the Tokyo-Hiroshima route.

Further on the second Tokyo part and moving around. Shibuya/Shinjuku/ikebukuro are all so close you really could pick any of the three and not need to move at all. Hell, you can get to anywhere in tokyo so easy that even crossing sides of the cityy aint a big deal. But given you are stopping in twice, at least the west vs east side does make some sense.
Base in Ueno for first visit. visit Akiba, Ginza, etc.
Then base somewhere west side to do all of that, plus the day trips that go out west or south

For extra trips from Tokyo:
- For your nikko 'day trip'. Do that as 2-3 days on the way back from sendai, worth the extended stay and its already along the way.
- Fujikawaguchiko, regardless of if climbing fuji or not its a great place. Great theme park too if into thrill rides. realistically its worth at least 2 days though.
- Hakone, beautiful nature, onsens, Evangelion, Fuji views
- Kamakura/Enoshima. If not templed out from your exhaustive Kyoto stay, this is also a pretty good place.
- Yokohama, worth a couple days, either staying a night, or as 2 seaprate day trips as its cheap from tokyo.
Actually you can combine those last three into a whole trip not based from Tokyo. Head to Hakone for 2-3 days, then creep towards tokyo and go to Kamakura/Enoshima for 1-2 days, then one step closer and do yokohama for 2 days. Less anoying than checking in and out of places in tokyo to head out of the city, back and forth several times.


Unrelated pic. Rikugien garden. They do a light up for Spring, pretty sure they do for autumn too, so could line up with the second tokyo visit.
Also previous pic was Giatn buddha in Ibaraki prefecture, i forget where.
I post pics with every reply now to keep thread more lively.
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>>2874825
Going during sakura season next year
Any must see things during that time?
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>>2875419
>>2875422
im landing september 9th, and from what ive seen the trail "officially closes" on the 10th, dunno with jet lag if i wanna get up ~5am next morning to go hike Fuji, its possible just dont know if its feasible - i do really want that stamped walking stick tho...how hard is the climb for you guys that have done it?
as for moving from tokyo so quick, i didnt wanna buy a shit ton of stuff in tokyo and not be able to still take the bullet trains, my bag counts as overhead, and if i bought to much stuff id have to forward it around or bring a bag that needs the special seats. might be dumb but that was my thought process
as for moving hotels in the 2nd part of the trip in tokyo, maybe im underestimating how easy it is to get around, i just thought i wanted to "stay" in different parts of the city. and staying directly in shibuya/shinjuku just seems fun, maybe im wrong for those that have stayed there. its for sure way more expensive but i thought just being able to walk out of the hotel and be right in the middle of it would be more fun than having to train around to get back to it
maybe thats dumb dunno
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>>2875428
Sakura in Meguro and Yasukuni.
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>>2875404
Inevitably the person you replied to is going to go on a diatribe about how airbnb is overpriced (it is for a local) and that you need to know the insider "secret" (aka spending hours/days writing emails to potential hosts for something that *might* save you a couple hundred per month) in order to not get ripped off
Ignore them
Pay the lazy tax if you aren't a poorfag. It costs half a day's work (remotely) for me. I can't be assed to spend days of research and trying to haggle/negotiate like a jew for something that can be done with the click of a button.
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Where can I find clothing shops that sell Japanese casual clothing? I found out on my first trip to Japan that wearing denim jeans and western clothing in the middle of summer was a terrible idea. So, I want to find clothing made for summer, like the pants Japanese youth use that are quite loose and look fresh and shirts that can cool me to avoid a heatstroke like I almost had one when I was strolling around Asakusa once. Mainly I want to find these stores in Tokyo and if there are places where they sell them second-hand, the better. Thanks.
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>>2875404
>What's wrong with them?
they're cucked
>>2875455
they're called furugiya
>>2875443
what's the point of being a fat retard in japan? you can be a fat retard anywhere, dont you fit in better back home?
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>>2875455
just get some dry fit shirts, whatever brand you like
just wear some nice chino shorts, they make them also moisture wicking etc etc
unless you look like a fat slop in shorts, then idk
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>>2875458
I am not fat, I have Chinese ancestry
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>>2875458
>chino shorts
Why do I want to look like a stupid boomer? Japanese hates shorts and evem if you are a fat lard otaku
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>>2875334
It's there for sure. IDK, I never went. I saw it from a plane and bullet train and that kinda scratched the itch for me. People do the hike where you start at night so you can see the sunrise from the top. It gets pretty chilly. Also you can look for dead bodies like Logan Paul did in the forest nearby. /shrug
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>>2875461
> Japanese hates shorts
Plenty of Japanese people wear shorts in summer, you fucking retard.
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>>2875487
name 5 japanese people that wear shorts (not women)
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>>2875488
women are more likely to wear shorts?
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>>2875488
>name 5 japanese people that wear shorts (not women)
Shintaro, Shinichiro, Taro, Makoto, Ryo. Should I go on, you mong? If you're some tourist idiot walking around Otemachi, ofc you're not going to see many people wearing shorts. Go to the areas people actually live and go about their business and practically everyone is wearing them in summer.
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>>2874825
Yeah
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>>2875457
Why are you so poor?
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>>2875494
Makoto gave up on shorts last year, checkmate chud.
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>>2874825
Yeah
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>>2875273
>2875273
GO TO THE KAIYUKAN! IT IS SO MUCH FUN!
Also go on the Ferris Wheel there (picrel)
I also really enjoyed going to Osaka-jo and Disney world but its not Disney its the other brand.
Also go to the Museum of Housing and Living, its at the end (or beginning) of the longest shopping street in Japan. The orange farm place in that street has amazing melon pan.
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>>2875496
You're timepoor
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>>2875431
Yeah as I said, I hiked on the 10th, the official last day. But the cabin still seemed to be taking bookings further into September.
Weather wise you are 90% likely fine to do it well into September as well. Summers have been hot and long recently. So just look into it, it is absolutely worth it if you can.
As for the climb itself. It was definitely tough. In the 5 years prior to my hiking it, my only exercise was a 1-2 mile walk most evenings. But I also am just generally fitter/healthier than the average from earlier life exercise. As long as you aren't actively lard or completely unused to exercise, I'd say the biggest thing is whether you have the determination to keep going. Take a good amount of water, and cash to pay for more (its expensive though)
I did the Gotemba trail which starts from lower down (2000m above sea level), but is way less busy. I'd rather kill myself than do the Yoshida trail, that looked like hell.

As for short first tokyo. Nah that aint dumb, I fully understand that reasoning and cannot argue there. Last trip I was buying so much everywhere I went, travel did get awkward.

It really is insanely easy to get basically anywhere in tokyo by train, and also part of the fun. Literally just google maps how long it takes to get from shinjuku to shibuya or ikebukuro. Then to say akihabara or Ueno to see cross city travel. Also take into account how expensive actually staying right in Shinjuku/Shibuya is, so unless you want to pay $$$, you will probably be a stop or two away on an ancilliary line anyway.
The only way being right in there really really matters is if you want to stay out real late in shinjuku/shibuya multiple nights after last train and not have to either party to 5am or get a taxi. Being close enough to walk home.

Pic is a temple up on a hill near Ashikaga flower park
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anyone do stealth camping? I dont want to get eaten by bears
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>>2874825
I'm not just generically asking for recommendations, but I want someone to sell me on why Osaka would be worth spending much time in if I was planning on a trip where I went to Himeji Castle en route to spending most of the trip in Shikoku.

I've been to the country before and while I see the appeal of a lot of the other hub cities like Kyoto, Sapporo, and Hiroshima, I'm not seeing much reason to bother with Osaka if you've already seen those places.

If I don't just want to take pictures of the Glico ad or pay Instagram prices for takoyaki, does Osaka have anything going for it that Tokyo doesn't?
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>>2875539
why not the yoshida trail? it starts around ~5000m, seems better? or is that the instagrammer trail with tons of people
why i mentioned the 10th was i saw that was when alot of the stations are closed, and if i went i'd want to get one of those walking sticks with the brands on them, seems like a really cool souvenir, but if all the places are closed, dunno if thats worth the effort
yeah staying directly in shibuya/shinjuku just seemed more fun to night crawl, but maybe ill be so busy/tired during the day i wont stay out anyway, ive seen prices are way higher in these 2 spots but i got (i think) pretty good deals,i guess i could cut those 2 spots out and just book one central hotel, ive been booking places right next to stations if i can
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>>2875540
there are no bears in chiba
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>>2875540
>>2875553
Fun fact, this is a reference to a movie/real life event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvx_7YmwH98
IRL the guy had to travel to Hokkaido to find a bear to fight. I think they're pretty reclusive in Honshu and maybe only near mountains?
I saw two tanuki while cycling at night once, which was pretty cool. I think I'd be more worried about monkeys stealing my food. Apparently them and crows are pretty crafty. Also centipedes bites and "murder hornet" stings could send you to the hospital. Have fun camping :) (Oh yeah, there's also ticks)
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>>2875542
Yeah Yoshida trail is THE tourist trail so its packed full of people, at the top is literally waiting in a line to proceed upwards.
You might be right about the stores closing and not being able to get a hiking stick. I personally don't know as I didn't even consider getting one (what the fuck do you do with the stick while travelling around after, doesnt fit in luggage). So if thats a big draw, weird as that seems to me, yeah it may not be worth it.

Well if you have already booked the accommodation and the price is acceptable with your budget, its not a WRONG choice, just not necessarily what you need to do. Booking right next to stations is definitely the way to go, so continue with that.

Regardless of what you change, or don't. You have overall a great list of places with plenty of time, so you will have a fantastic trip.
Keep in mind some of these day trip suggestions, but otherwise its looking good.

On the Fuji topic, have a picture of Fuji's shadow from on Mt Fuji
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Tried to get Tomodachi life for switch today, but they don't sell the cartridges till it's release, and I leave tomorrow.
I thought they sold the cartridges but locked you from opening it till release date.
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>>2875541
for me it was vibes. first time i went i didnt like it second time i fell in love. i met a lot of cool people got to actually use my JP, and the night life is bar none my favorite.
that said, it really doesnt have any touristy places besides Dotonbori and Shinsekai. i could see why some people may not like it. its loud and dirty and charming. really walkable too. id just walk for hours and hit up temples or whatever
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Guys, I want to visit all of the red pins. Some of them are from anime like Kimi no na wa. The ones in Nishinomiya are Haruhi Suzumiya places. Do you like them?
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met two Japanese guys that were probably like 25 in Akihabara a few days ago and they struck up a conversation with me, asking if they could practice some English. they were very interested in the fact that I had come from Canada. Afterwards they asked me if I had instagram which I said no to, and then whatsapp which I also said no to. My autistic ass could have given them another contact but I didn't and now I'm still sulking about this missed opportunity days later. Absolute shot in the dark but have any of you anons met these guys, idk maybe they talk to a shitton of foreigners
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I assume Hokkaido is still under snow in May? The mountain ranges, I mean. Which would prevent hiking.
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>>2875583
was one of them kinda short and stocky and the other on the taller side? did they compliment your clothes and say that they were just done bowling or some shit? was this on the street next to the shops where those low to the ground metal bars are that people sit on?
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>>2875587
they didn't compliment my clothes but yes, short and tall, close to that bit with the metal poles. we got talking about bocchi the rock and the shorter one told me I should check out shelter in shimokitazawa
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>>2875564
how the hell would they lock you from opening it once you bought it?
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>>2875574
What makes you want to visit Kyoto Animation? Are you allowed entry of some kind?
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Against my better judgement I decided to check out Harajuku Takeshita Street. Why is there so many black people around there?
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>>2875591
kek it sounds like the same guys. if it was they were a part of the kenshokai. I unwittingly became a member. they're not harmful or anything but if you continued talking to them they invite you to their temple to chant.
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You know, I'm fine being a virgin chudcel ass motherfucker, but feels like from what I've seen from Tokyo so far (which in fairness is mostly ticking off the touristy stuff) it's all couples/groups and I stick out like a sore thumb, which kinda makes me think perhaps I shouldn't be in these places. What are good places for a solo nigga to be in Tokyo?
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>>2875610
Takeshita had become one of the worst tourist holes even by my first trip in 2017. Only time I visited, can't even imagine how heinous it is now.
My condolences for your foolish decision.
As for the blacks. I have heard there's a lot of fake goods sold, so not sure if that has Yakuza connections and negros for muscle like in kabukicho. Or were they tourists?
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>>2875613
When I walked past one of them they were trying to talk to me, similar to the touts in Shinjuku. I just ignored them and kept walking.
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>>2875541
I appreciate how comfy Osaka was compared to Tokyo.
As >>2875572 said it's vibes really, I didn't spend much time there but I wish I'd planned for one or two nights more to just hang out there.
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>>2875611
fucking hilarious if it was, do you have their @? I'm curious now hahahaha
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Going to Okinawa (Naha) as part of my next trip. Where are the places to avoid where the Muhreens will be? I'm guessing around the general Kaneda base area but I've never been before.
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>>2875612
Incel walk late night. Sleep during the day.
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>>2875609
I want to burn it down
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>>2875615
Ha, well then im probably close to on the money. Either trying to get you into shops of fake goods, or some club/hostess type shit.
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>>2875610
Yakuza uses Nigerians for their various scams. Nigerians marry a local and get permanent residence status.
Guessing they are selling "street wear" or whatever clothing U.S. black people are associated with. Stolen valoring as U.S. blacks most likely.
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>>2875697
this was big in amerimura in osaka. also yeah harajuku was godawful. like genuinly shoulder to shoulder with foreigners, idk how you even get into the shops. it was only good just post covid before china was allowed to leave
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>>2875701
I was instantly soured on Takeshita street before I even managed to cross over from Meiji Jingu station, upon exiting the station there was a 6'+ gigahon in a lolita outfit filming a tiktok dance
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Guys is Japan really anime land and if I go there everyone acts like an anime character and people accept your love for anime?
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>>2875706
i genuinely wonder why people even go there anymore. you cant shop. its just people soup. its like fucking shibuya scramble with everyone standing around like an asshole taking a video as if theyre the first in the world to do it
sad thing is harajukus still a really cool area. like 2 side streets over, theres cool back alleys and windy sidewalks to cafes, hairsalons and actual businesses.
it was at that point i kinda just got tired of tokyo and switched over to osaka as my favorite place
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>>2875726
A lot more than you'd expect.
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Akihabara 1986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqutCr7SxEM
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>>2875726
90% of people will mention something like conan, pokemon, doraemon if you mention anime to them. Some will know the latest popular stuff, something like frieren and jjk. And a small percentage goes farther than that. Of course it's not hard to find that small percentage since they congregate in specific areas, though it'll usually require you to make contact with them.
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>>2875740
Unironically soulnormal.
In other words, boring.
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Is Kabukicho unsafe to walk around? I am staying near the Kabukicho tower. Which food courts or malls should I try to visit for walk?
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>>2875799
Just ignore any blacks that try and talk to you and you'll be fine
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>>2875802
this is just good advice in any given context to be honest, just ignore any kind of street hawkers if a place is good they dont need to drag customers in
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>>2875802
>>2875799
Yeah I'm a taller caucasoid so I stood out like a sore thumb and got touts constantly trying to get my attention while I was just walking around.

I only had one actually follow me and force a conversation and he was actually pretty polite while I was telling him I wasn't interested.

If you're in the major nightlife districts you're much safer when a tout approaches you. I wouldn't go into any of the sidestreets where similar touts are but you're not highly visible.
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Did any of you go to the Wonder Parlour maid cafe? It's all over my twitter feed
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>>2875776
>>2875726
>went to reseller for eva merch
>couldn't find anything for the best sequence in the series (asuka's rampage and death in end of movie)
>was gonna settle on just an asuka model
>have a moment of horrible realization that i'm a white dude by myself looking at vinyl gooner statues of an anime girl
>see hear girls in the aisle giggling and clearly hear them say "asuka" and "waifu"
>put it down and leave
>consider rope
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>>2875826
>go to Akihabara
>get visibly drunk on strong zero
>wear a shirt with Yui Hirasawa on it
>shamelessly browse for cute girl anime figurines
>can't hear the giggling of women over my dominating gaijin presence
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>>2875572
>>2875616
I had a perspective that Osaka was kinda like Japanese Vegas, so would that be fair to say?

If that's the case I'll probably skip it since I'm much more into chill atmospheres, hence why I'm more interested in Shikoku.

The followup question is whether Himeji is worth it. I know it's arguably the best castle, but if it's so crowded even the big estate it's on is busy all the time I'd go to Marugame Castle instead.

The plan is to go in the cheap time after New Year's in January
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>>2875836
January's a great time to go, temp was pretty mild the whole time. Key thing to note tho is Coming Of Age day falls under that umbrella, so shrines on that day can be busy.
although when I went I got caught up in the NYD quake (babby's first 7.0+ quake lmao) and had to cancel the leg I was going to take to Kanazawa
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I'm a first time tourist going to Tokyo and Osaka during golden week and practically know none of the language. I have had plenty of full on conversations with others using translation apps online at least and have a couple of friends but that's about it. How fucked am I?
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>>2875863
why would you want to go during golden week, that sounds awful
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>>2875865
It wasn't my intention but I suddenly had time off around then and the ticket was like 800 so I figured no time like the present. Was just a series of circumstances that lead me to this time frame and kinda didn't even realize it was golden week until after I bought my ticket
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>>2875866
i would get a refund if you can, its going to be miserable, trust me pick any other time
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>>2875867
Too late my friend. My ticket is non refundable. Surely it can't be *that* bad right?
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>>2875868
It is that bad, everything and I mean everything will be crowded to shit. Trains, aircraft, ferries, landmarks, malls, stores, streets, the lot.
If you absolutely have to go and can't get this refunded I suggest making reservations for absolutely anything you want to do and do it now.
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>>2875870
plus alot of japs take that week of as well, so cool mom and pop shops, markets, small food stands etc etc might be closed
which to me is one of the main charm points
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>>2875865
>>2875867
You're sounding like one of those dumbass japan travel channels that say ridiculous things like
>Number one secret Japan travel tip! DO NOT go to Japan during golden week! Did you know that the entire country SHUTS DOWN! Yeah, that's what a holiday means! All the streets and hotels are clogged up with with Japanese people doing weird and gross things like living out their contemporary culture! Make sure you book your holiday during the quietest and most boring time of year so everyone is holed up in the office you don't have to line up for your tacky tourist trap!
Golden week is the most interesting time to visit Japan. And no, nothing "shuts down" or whatever they are saying
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>>2875870
The thing is I don't know exactly what I want to do other than spend time away from home. Ice just kinda forced myself to leave my comfort zone is all. I don't have anything super specific in mind and I don't really plan on rushing around or having a sense of urgency. It is more kind of to get a taste for international travel. Maybe see a few things get drunk maybe gamble a bit since pachinko always had me a bit curious even though gambling is always a scam.
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>>2875873
I'm not going to lie to you anon, if you just wanted to experience travelling abroad just to do it you should have picked something else.
Also don't listen to this fag >>2875872 he doesn't know what he's talking about
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>>2875875
Shoulda woulda coulda no use crying about it before I even go ya know. Seems like it will be a rough time. An optimistic approach is that if I do end up having a lot of fun despite it being as busy as hectic as you say with a lot of shops closed then my experiences could only get better no?
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>>2875870
>trains
Local trains are packed regardless (depending on the time) because of commuters. Shinkansens are more packed (and tickets more expensive), especially at the start and the end, because many nips escape elsewhere.
>aircraft
Pretty much always full.
>ferries
Not like he's going to take them.
>landmarks
Sure, but these are already packed with gaijin.
>the rest
Eh

If he wanted to travel all around the country, then I'd say it's a worse idea. But places like Tokyo are where most of them leave from to go abroad or elsewhere in the country. It's not like there'll be a surge of people suddenly coming to Tokyo, rather the opposite. Though places like Disney and universal will be very crowded.

The other guy was right about you.
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>>2875879
you have never been to japan during golden week
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>>2875880
Fine then. Anon can go to japan during golden week and report back to tell us if the japan travel channels are right all along. We'll see if the country really does shut down.
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>>2875882
I probably won't be the best judge honestly considering I know absolutely nothing about how things normally are and idk if doing shit like playing arcade mahjong getting drunk and maybe visiting Osaka castle will be that big of a deal
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>>2875572
How is Osaka night life for someone who doesn't know the language or anything
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>>2875882
thats literally not what either of us said
guy above said
>Trains, aircraft, ferries, landmarks, malls, stores, streets, the lot
will be all extra crowded, which is 100% true as most people have some sort of time off
i said
>cool mom and pop shops, markets, small food stands etc etc might be closed
not lawson 711 uniqlo pokemon centers, but the non big brand things will shutter outright or have multiple days where they are CLOSED
this doesnt make the country closed, neither of us said that
what it does is make crowded places just even more so and any place that normally would be 60% level crowds will now be 95%+
restaurants you can walk in normally, now need a reservation, shinkansens you can normally buy a ticket at the station, are now sold out
etc etc
doesnt make japan not fun or not worth going, but as i said above id pick literally any other time to go
so again
>you have never been to japan during golden week
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>>2875836
>Is Himeji worth it
Worth seeing? Absolutely. Worth going into? No.
But that's because I have visited castles in Osaka, Okayama, Matsue, Matsumoto, Kanazawa, Nagoya, plus a few other other places.
Himeji was absolutely the most impressive to look at. The approach up the main city street is awesome, and you can get lots of nice angles from different areas around it and in the outer grounds.
But actually going inside was easily the least enjoyable castle of all that you can do that for. Busy, nothing interesting inside, expensive.
So Himeji can easily be a morning stop on the way south imo. And I say that as someone who is very anti rushing and can easily spend whole days on places others blast through.

>I'd go to Marugame Castle instead
Really not in the same class of competition. It appears to be in a pretty nice spot, but that size of castle is a dime a dozen in Japan. While Himeji is basically THE premier castle.
Sounds like a first or at least early trip? So Marugame probably will still be pretty awesome to see and you could 'build up' to seeing Himeji if you think you'd return.
But if it could be ages or never that you go back, well then seeing THE castle isn't a bad idea.
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is the guy who talked to those two kenshokai guys in akiba still around? I still wanna speak to them again
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>>2875836
Been a while, but Marugame had a small museum and decent castle. Really my favorite castle is probably Osaka Castle, but I really like Osaka. Is it like Vegas? I guess kinda, but whereas Vegas has a kind of artifical feel. Osaka feels more authentic, it's been a merchant city for centuries.
I liked Iga Ueno castle with the Ninja museum outside. This area was genocided by Nobunaga because some ninjas from there attempted to assassinate him. The museum goes into some of the real history and folklore.
In Shikoku I also liked the Tokushima castle ruins, but more because of the view you get of the city from up there.
Never made it to Himeji.
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Kabukichō, Shinjuku, in the 1990s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Wx_uwIL80
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>>2874825
Am I retarded or something?
>10 day trip
>NYC to HND Premium Economy - $2400
>Hotels (no more than ~$300/night) - $2300
That's almost $5000 and I'm not even in the country yet. Going in mid-May, started planning two months ago.
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>>2875934
Yes you are retarded, or very rich
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>>2875934
when i went from Vancouver to KIX, my flight was 1000, and my nightly hotel cost was 100 bucks. you are overspending of course
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>>2875936
>premium economy
>300$ a night hotel
>very rich
baka
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>>2875938
That's what I'm saying. I feel like I was somewhat modest booking this thing without dipping into poverty spec shit. Was it because of the booking window? Or because it's a nonstop? I did anxiously switch my seat around and probably racked up a bunch of bullshit microcharges from the airline.

This is my first time spending any of my savings/NEETbux so I have no perspective other than my own on this. It seemed cheap until I went back and saw how much money I've spent so far.

I definitely do not want to hold back when I get there but it seems like it's a lot cheaper than here, especially New England
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>>2875939
ny to japan is far, during an oil shock and skyrocketing jet fuel prices. plus youre going to haneda which is always more expensive and yea its a direct.
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>>2875939
that's not that much bro, 300$ a night gets you a decent 4 star hotel in Tokyo, there are many 5 star places were night will cost you easily over 1000 and then you have places like Aman were cheapest room cost like 4000.
Last year I paid for a premium economy flight around 2000$ and I'm not rich by any means lol
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>>2875939
Which airline? ANA and JAL's offerings for premium economy are pretty great. JAL even gets you lounge access on your way back.
I'm going in ANA business next year which was pretty costly, but it's a 15 hour flight nonstop and I'm pretty tall so I need the space
(plus I want to get a little druk on their sake selection)
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>>2875946
Uhhhhh

....United. I booked out of habit and impulse. First time flying out of the country so I went with the familiar option. Apparently ANA has way better food or whatever (found out after, whoops), but I plan to be asleep for most of the trip anyway. I think United was the only one that had a nonstop for leave time too.
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>>2875947
No worries, I don't have any complaints about United (Delta can suck cocks in hell, though), some airlines premium economies have some of the business class meal options (just all on one try instead of the silver service you'd get up front) but I don't know where United stands on that.
>but I plan to be asleep for most of the trip anyway
Bigger seat will definitely help with that, no shame in paying for comfort. I used to get rock bottom tickets ($350 for return to Tokyo with 2 bags on Alitalia via Rome in 2018) when I was younger but I'm a cranky unc now and I want a bed and nice single malt
Enjoy your trip anon!
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The cherry blossoms at Yunokami Onsen Station have started to fall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1MErdsqsw8
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>>2875938
>>2875939
>>2875942
>>2875946
Premium Economy is a meme. Chances are you're not going to sleep so just bring your own entertainment, go all night then crash in a cheap hotel for a night.

Get an aisle seat in Economy as long as you have enough leg room and just watch 4-6 downloaded movies then bring two sandwiches and 500ml of water.
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>>2875970
This, I'd say your better off having a slightly more miserable plane experience and using the saved money to enjoy your time in Japan instead.
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>>2875970
damn, thank God I'm not poor
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>>2875977
I literally went on Premium Economy both ways 4 months ago. I'm giving my honest assessment that aside from the food and movies being included the slightly better seat added nothing to my comfort. So if you work around the food and movies as the only substantive benefit Economy is just as good as Premium Economy.

I doubt I'd have been able to sleep even in the highest tier seating that had literal beds just because of the plane being in motion. I could have afforded them too but I was skeptical it would make a difference and I was right.

If you can sleep on a plane and can afford it, then the more comfy seats are worth it. For me though I'd not spend the money because I won't get real benefits from the additional cost.

>>2875972
Unless you're sitting with assholes around you I wouldn't even say it's slightly more miserable. I flew Delta and the washroom was further back than my seat so I saw Economy seats and they were functionally the same as PE.

I honestly think two sandwiches, a full water bottle, and a fully charged smart device with some movies on it (or a book or vidya if that's what you prefer) would negate any benefit from PE and save you a few thousand.
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>>2875970
>>2875972
My formula is this:
>Flight less than 6 hours: Economy
>Flight between 6 to 12 hours: Premium Economy
>Flight 12 hours+: Business
I pointsmaxx and my last Business Class flight to Japan cost me less than $500 (round trip) from just running all my yearly expenses through a rewards card
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>>2875980
In your case then yeah go for it. In mine this was the first vacation I'd taken in like 15 years so I've never had much interest in a travel points card vs a loyalty card with businesses I actually use.

If I knew a decade ago that a place as far away as Weebistan was actually worth going on vacation to I'd have probably done what you did and cost would be no object.
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>>2875977
>"thank God I'm not poor"
>the fat basement dweller said before charing another $2000 to his senile mother's credit card
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>>2875977
Unless you're filthy rich, it's all about priorities. If you're not wealthy enough to just stop working and live off of passive income, you're always making a compromise when buying something in the sense that you're selling your time to your work. If I spend 1k more on flights, money-wise that's the same as taking 5 days of non paid vacation from work. The question is which do I value more.
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What should I wear there? I'm some eternal wagie that's like 6'4 and have a relatively shit wardrobe because I don't go out much. I plan on buying some clothes before I leave since I doubt shit will be easy to find in my size over there
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>>2875934
I'm paying six thousand for 8 days,

And the flight is coach.
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>>2874825
>going to Tokyo next week
>set Bumble to passport mode to have people to meet before my trip
>get 80+ matches in less than 24 hours
>yes, more than 80
>they're all messaging me and acting receptive

I get it. I understand the weeaboos now. It makes sense.
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>>2876047
>I understand the weeaboos now
I don't even go there for real women.
I just really like anime girls.
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>>2876042
how?
i dont like wasting money on hotels, i wake up leave all day, come back at night shower/shit and sleep, repeat
>poorfag
no i have too much disposable income because i have no friends or kids or spouse, i just dont get fancy hotels, im never in them
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>>2876052
>>poorfag
If you don't engage with anyone who uses this term, your experience on 4chan will improve greatly. Actual richfags are out doing rich people shit, not posting on 4chan. The people you encounter on here are tryhard wagies bragging about wasting their mcdonalds paycheck to feel better about themselves around a bunch of anonymous strangers. They are faggots of the highest caliber.
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>>2876054
ehhhhh
I abhor waste and like getting a deal but sometimes you see people hemming and hawing over the most meaningless shit. you don't have to have a trust fund to understand the tradeoff of money vs time or effort
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>>2876054
not saying im rich, but thats always the cope argument from anyone when you dont spend 500/night on a hotel
>lol cant afford it XD
as a one off for a night or a nice ryokan ok i get it, but spending that much every night i just dont get it
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>>2876054
they have a unique brand of retardation where they're militantly and proudly retarded
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I am back from my 3rd trip to japan. 2 weeks done. Questions?
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>>2876073
>2 weeks done.
What's it like to have a double digit IQ? Does your brain hurt when you read a book? It's impressive you can clear the captchas. Good for you, champ.
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>>2874825
>>2876073
>1
How does nightlife work if you are staying somewhere out of the way? I'm locked into my hotel booking in Ueno (to avoid crowds), but want to see some late night music in Koenji. Are taxis expensive like people say they are, or is it not that bad? I feel like it would kill the vibe anxiously checking to make sure you don't miss the the last train home.
>2
What is the hidden "HOLY SHIT DON'T DO THAT YOU FUCKING RETARD" advice that isn't being posted? Avoid touts, use konbini ATMs for cheaper exchange, start with Japanese before going to English, ok fine. But what's the secret advice I should know?
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>>2876075
1. just use an alarm bro
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>>2876075
jsut take an uber. itll be pricey but you picked ueno bro
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Qrd on the outer wards please? Other than Edogawa is full of Indians, we’ve had this already in the thread
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How is Niigata in autumn? I never hear anything discussed about the place. It seems like a decently sized city so surely there should be fun things to do there?

Primarily interested in Niigata as I want to run a marathon and figured it would be fun to try that in Japan if I'm already there anyway, and Niigata has a city marathon that takes place when I am planning to be in Japan. Tempted to sign up but kinda worried there is going to be nothing to do there except for the marathon.
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>>2876047
will this work if I'm brown?
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I got approval to work remotely from Japan for 3 months. It's my chance to stop being 30 yo shutin loser, for that I need to be where the life is. It's a big experiment to see if I am ruralcel momyboy or a truecel after all.
Only problem is I earn about 2700$ monthly on my shit slav salary. Possible to find something to rent in Tokyo in this price? Maybe sharedhouse and try to flirt with student cuties there?
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>>2876075
>But what's the secret advice I should know?
You get a discount at Club Diamond if you pay with your leftover 1 and 5 yen coins
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>>2876075
>I'm locked into my hotel booking in Ueno (to avoid crowds), but want to see some late night music in Koenji. Are taxis expensive like people say they are, or is it not that bad? I feel like it would kill the vibe anxiously checking to make sure you don't miss the the last train home.
Are you gay? Just stay out all night, or maybe after the show walk to Shinjuku and enjoy the quiet night and maybe stumble on some late night izakaya or bar around the stations you'll pass. Then, take the first train home. Or be a total faggot. Your choice.
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>>2876110
I'm currently planning my next trip with Tohoku/North as one of the main components and frankly from my searching it certainly seems to have the least amount of really interesting stuff.
But if you have headed that far up, it makes it easy to just jump over to a more interesting northern prefecture.
Also, realistically every major city will have at least 1-2 days of interesting stuff either in or close to it. Just go on google maps zoom in on the niigata area and check out the random things that pop up, save the interesting ones to the map and then see if it all adds up to enough to be worth it.

Blue pond, Hokkaido. Was indeed very blue/10
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>>2876116
>frankly from my searching it certainly seems to have the least amount of really interesting stuff

That sucks then. Maybe I'll just run the marathon then and leave the city already in the evening.
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>>2876116
>I'm currently planning my next trip with Tohoku/North as one of the main components and frankly from my searching it certainly seems to have the least amount of really interesting stuff.
NTA but I'll be honest here, I'd extend this to the whole Tohoku. I went to Japan 3 times already and did a lot in the southern half of the country, including going down to Yakushima (would have done Tanegashima as well if they didn't fucking cancel a rocket launch), I've yet to go north of Nikko, but upon planning, there's nothing really worth traveling half of the world for it. Nature I can find (better) at home so nothing to nipaa~ about. Sanriku coast looks nice though, but it's not like I'll spend more than 2 days of hiking on it. Tohoku in autumn seems nice, not gonna lie, but it's not like autumn won't be worthwhile in the southern half of the country. And if I wanted to travel just to be in Japan and have a comfy time rather than to see things I can't see at home, which is a perfectly valid thing to do, I'd still wouldn't go in the northern half of the country, it doesn't have the most interesting cities to say the least.
I think I'll skip Tohoku and go to Hokkaido directly.
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>>2876121
Are you retarded? If the nature in your cunt is so great, why the fuck waste your time in Hokkaido and not Tohoku? The nature in Hokkaido is great, but it’s a cultural wasteland compared to Tohoku.
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>>2876119
Keep in mind, I've spent ~6 months all up travelling in Japan. So my "standards" have gotten kinda high. Not to be a weird snob, I just mean I have seen so much that unless something is particularly cool, its likely something I've seen similar 5 times elsewhere. So some stuff may be more interesting to you if you haven't travelled as widely.
Here are a couple things I do have saved. Niigata-ken Gokoku Shrine, Befco Bakauke Observation Deck, Saito Villa. Quite nice things if already in the area, so maybe worth an extra day.
Maybe head over to Aizuwakamatsu after, looks good imo. Tsuruga castle, Sazaedo Temple, Isasumi Shrine, Ouchi-juku all look nice.

>>2876121
I'm in essentially the same position. I have travelled the rest extensively, and tohoku really does seem comparatively sparce (except for hikes). I posted a big tohoku travel help request further up the thread for this reason.
Maybe its because we have seen so much now, and if we'd started with Tohoku, some other sections may be the ones seeming less interesting. I mean some stuff does get a bit same-y, so the more you see the harder to find the last parts super exciting.

This guy >>2876122 has a point. Hokkaido was fucking awesome and is easily the place I most want to revisit. But, a lot of the best stuff is nature.
Though the overall different design vibe of Sapporo was cool, Ainu sites were interesting (could have been the Golden Kamuy in my brain making that so, though) and Hakodate goryokaku was nice.
Also low key enjoyed the drive from Tomakomai down to noboribetsu area, weird as fuck. The looks of a dying country town, beach front small town, industrial area and capitalist hell hole (with more huge pachinko parlors than people) all along one stretch of road, the vibe was chaotic but undeniably interesting.
But yeah frankly, if nature isn't a particularly big draw card, the good stuff of Hokkaido is a little limited and spread out.


One of my favourite gardens, Sankeien in Yokohama.
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>>2876112
Yeah I would look into sharehouses now. My rent was fairly reasonable, but I was in a small room with just enough space for my bed, my PC, and some clothes. I had to share the shower and toilet with 5 other guys. The upstairs had chicks and the kitchen/living room. I had to start using love hotels in Shibuya because my neighbors would complain about the noise when I brought chicks home. It was like 90% or more Japanese. So I was definitely the annoying Gaijin, but I made a few friends there.
After my contract at work and lease ran out, I tried staying in a month to month one just to see if I wanted to try living a little more centrally in Tokyo or not. I stayed in one that was a big room with like 6 bunk beds. It was Gaijin loser central.The main living area had like Smash Brothers hooked up to it. It was late when I went to bed, and half the people weren't there yet. The guy above me on the bunk was a fat autistic weeb who started muttering stuff like "Johnny was a dull boy, that's why I had to kill him." I got up and went to the nearest internet cafe to try and sleep the rest of the night there. I moved to a private room in another house after that, the company acted real annoyed that I wanted to move after one night, but they let me. So, your mileage may vary.
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>>2876099
Most really aren't that interesting. There are lot of like bedroom towns that almost suburban in character despite the concrete everywhere.
A few cool ones like Meguro and Ikebukuro have been gatekept to try and keep the gaijin tourist numbers down.
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>>2876047
Update on this. It’s like an ever-flowing river. The matches/likes don’t stop. This is borderline retarded.

>>2876111
I don’t know. White, tall, slender (or fit) with a full head of hair is how you can replicate this. Being dressed nice helps. Having a jaw helps.
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>>2876136
I liked Nerima, felt pretty suburban, something like 20 mins by train to get to Ikebukuro, got a JGSDF museum, the Toei studios, and the local station plays the Galaxy Express 999 theme as its jingle. I had a lovely oba-san host who taught me how to do the tea ceremony. Never saw any other gaijin while I was there. Pretty relaxing, before I had stayed around Shinjuku and Ikebukuro, it was a really nice change of pace.
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>>2876139
they're all indian men with chatgpt
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>>2876170
That'll make the meetings awkward.
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>>2876171
Okay bad news, I have discovered that Suzuki is catfish ....I was told to meet at Ueno Park but i did not find 13 yr old Suzuki, i find 54 yr old Durgesh. ....However he enjoys breasts like me so all is well haha How are you all doing today

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