Make sure to book at high end hotel since there are lot of free time inbetween each day.

>>2879843
When I went I did the empire state building in the morning to see the city in the daylight and the top of the rock at night to get pictures of empire state and the city lit up.

I get sick of New York in like 2 hours every time I visit.

>>2879843
You can do all of this in a day if you cut out the shitty tourist din dins

Why would you go to Lex and 125th? You trying to get shot?

Not even gonna see sportsball or a Broadway play? Cmon bro!

>>2879843
>Time square, Top of the Rock
OP, please get somebody who lives in New York to help you because half of these places are overrated touristic scams. Go to Queens to get some actual good food.

>>2879843
Times Square 2x might be excessive. Also what's with Bubba Gump? They're a seafood chain all over the U.S. Is this bait?

>>2879985
>Queens
>good food
Como

>>2880006
Queens has incredible food. Only place on earth you can get Jamaican jerk chicken down the street from Chinese Bao and kebanese shawarma

Take a ride on the Staten Island ferry or some other boat just to get out in the harbor and catch some views of Manhattan.
If you’re in lower Manhattan the free Museum of the American Indian is an oasis from all the tourist hustles around Battery Park. It’s in a spectacular old customs house and even if you’re not into native stuff the building is worth it. Nearby Battery Park City is one if the few places in Manhattan where there isn’t a highway by the water and the esplanade is a great walk, with lots of pocket parks, artwork and memorials.
Take a subway out to Coney Island now that the weather is warmer, Get out of Manhattan and see the rest of the city, even if it’s just a short hop to Williamsburg.

>>2880020
I lived in queens for 6 months and i never ate any of that slop nigga

go to one of NYC's famous gay sex parties
not gay? don't worry, there's popular clubs that do tranny nights on tuesdays, fridays, and most saturdays
or you could go to one of those jerk off ones where the guys just jerk it on their lunch breaks

>>2879843
Herald Square Macy's is cool but aside from the parade and all the decorations when it's Christmastime it's still a Macy's.
Eataly is a chain, I'd recommend replacing it with something NY-specific.
Why go to the 9/11 memorial twice?
Horse carriages might not be out depending on when you go, if it's too hot it's considered animal abuse to "operate" them.

Obviously you'll have a lot of free time, so here's some things I'd recommend:
>Museums:
MET, MOMA, the New Museum (now that it's reopened), Guggenheim, MoRUS, Museum of the Moving Image, City Reliquary Museum
>Neighborhoods:
My favorites in Manhattan are East and West Village. Different vibes but they both have a lot of character. There's also Chinatown and the Upper West Side. Avoid Midtown, it looks like shit.
In Brooklyn there's Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Prospect Heights, and Coney Island. Greenwood Cemetery is also worth checking out, it's what inspired Central Park.
Queens is my favorite borough, definitely check out Flushing if nothing else for great Chinese food. Forest Hills and Kew Gardens Hills are very quaint, and Jamaica has sovl.
Staten is basically New Jersey but Historic Richmond Town is kind of nice, if you really want to hit the island. And then the Bronx I have not been to.
>Movie Theaters:
NYC is one of the best cities in the country for film. My favorite is the IFC in West Village, but there's also the Walter Reade Theater and the Film Forum. East Village Angelika is cool, too, for the building. Metrograph has a great selection but the seats are pure ass-pain.
>Shops:
The Strand is the biggest bookstore in the country by volume, I believe. It's open til 9pm so I usually end up there when I'm in the city.
Night Owl Video in Williamsburg is a new video store with a great selection.
Search and Destroy in EV is a legacy punk shop that kicks you out if you take photos of anything. It's cooler on the outside than inside.

Out of character space so that's all you're getting.

>>2880235
>Greenwood Cemetery is also worth checking out, it's what inspired Central Park.
I used to live next to the cemetery and it’s spectacular. Highest point in Brooklyn, old trees and tombs of the robber barons. Nearby Prospect Park is the same without dead people (though there is a hidden Quaker cemetery) and was done by the same guys who did Central Park but with a decade’s experience and no present day Manhattan looming over it. There’s a few sketchy areas to avoid but it’s safe. I realize people don’t go to NYC to hike but if you ever need a break and the surrounding neighborhoods are interesting. The waterfront parks along the East River in Brooklyn also give you that wide open space but you’re steps away from urban stuff.

>>2879843
Ngl the food choices are mid and very touristy unless you’re from Alaska or something. Go on google maps and search the kinda food you like in various neighborhoods you’ll be near at the time. The only reason actual New Yorkers visit Times Square is to mug white dumb white people like you and shoot heroin

You will got mugged and raped by niggers at 125th street. That’s Harlem, nigga. if they see a white boy tourist like you with all your luggage clueless where tf he is they’re gonna crack your ass open, clean it out and glue it shut

>>2880324
When's the last time you've been there? 20 years ago? Crime is a nothingburger in NYC nowadays. All the gangsters are smartphone zombies just like everyone else. Everything is super gentrified

>>2880324
t. dad is a cop in Tom's River, grandpa migrated to NJ from Bensonhurst in 1987, had to fly out of Newark once and was "nearly robbed" (saw a black guy at Starbucks)

Don’t forget to check out the world famous Sbarro’s pizza when you’re in NYC. Best pie in the city

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>>2880215

i live in queens. if i were visiting NYC for one week here's what i would do staying in line with what you generally want to do

Monday - walk the brooklyn bridge, 9/11 memorial, WTC museum and viewing floor, statue of liberty tour, bull photo (fucking tourist), US customs house and go inside if its a good exhibit, and get a feel for the financial district and all the old new york alleyways. find a good steakhouse without going to far, there's some great ones around there. if you like Ghostbusters, check out their firehouse

Tuesday - take a train to hudson yards and go up to the edge. afterwards walk the high line south, then check out all the piers and parks on the hudson. get pizza or sandwiches at Mama Too's or cheeseburgers at Hamburger America, hang out in washington square park, the later the better, it turns into a party after 9pm. you're close enough to get dinner in little italy or chinatown if you walk a bit farther

Wednesday - take a train to brooklyn, check out prospect park, williamsburg, coney island, find some good places to eat. this day will be kind of light but it would be a great day to find a good happy hour and get drunk with the locals

Thursday - start at 5th and 59th and explore central park all day. go to the zoo, ride the carousel, go in belvedere castle, walk around the reservoir, get a horse carraige ride, get lost in the ramble, find strawberry fields and ignore the shitty guitarists, go under every arch you can find. if you get to the north side you can explore harlem a little bit, its really not that bad. the apollo theater is pretty run down though.

Friday - start at union square, walk up broadway to herald square, check out macys, do the empire state building, explore midtown a bit, then head up 5th avenue to check out the NY public library, then head east to check out grand central and the chrysler building. plenty of amazing places to eat around there. then head back west to times square, go enjoy your rave

>>2880432
Saturday - go to the matinee, explore hells kitchen after, find some good bar and grill, go to the intrepid museum. another good day to get drunk

Sunday - shopping if you really need to, don't make plans, just do what you want

monday - check out and go home

also i forgot on friday to do rockefeller center when you're walking up 5th. the only thing i would possibly change is on wednesday instead of spending the day in brooklyn to instead do a museum day at the museum of natural history, the Met, and the guggenheim. Moma isn't really that great.

>>2879843
you can do half of that in one day

>>2880440
I am 560lbs and have to use a mobility scooter. Would it still be possible? How scooter friendly is NYC?

>>2880462
I’d say pretty friendly, you should be fine. I see people on scooters all the time, they’re mainly homeless though, lol. The main thing you’ll come across is every block now reeks of skanky weed, whereas it didn’t not too many years ago. It’s all encompassing and can actually make you feel sick to your stomach

>>2880596
That’s lame. If you want to make weed legal, whatever, but why subject everyone else to having to smell it. Didn’t they just bad smoking cigarettes outside? I’d rather smell them than marijuana smoke, esp if my kids are around

fuck all that. take the train up the valley to croton gorge, go to Astoria Seafood in queens. go to a bathouse in Brighton Beach. have a negroni, have two

>>2881320
kek

>>2881320
Don’t forget to cruise through the Ramble in Central Park

>>2881320
>>2881353
Or the clubs in Hells Kitchen where people go to wee on each other

>>2881450
Wee in eachother? I thought you wanted to show this guy the REAL NYC, not the tourist version. Tell him about the chili bowl clubs in the East Village and Brooklyn. You can get ANYTHING you want from strangers, in the complete darkness. It’s a bug chasers dream.
>t. Native New Yorker, don’t kink shame. No chuds allowed

>>2881908
There is no real NYC mate

>>2881964
>t. Never even been to a real NYC gay sex club

>>2881994
You got me there

>>2881964
There's no real London mate
No real Shanghai
No real Riyadh

Whatever

only reason I'd visit NYC is to see Billy Joel and now that it's over, why even bother

How many days is good for a first trip to New York as a European? I’m thinking about 7 days, but I’m worried it might be too much.

>>2882150
1 night 2 days
or 0 nights 1 day

>>2882150
Depends how may gay clubs you plan to hit up. You’re going to get laid as soon as you get off the plane.

>>2879843
OP your post reads like bait. Lots of stupid slop and bad restaurants, plus a bunch of shit that's far apart if you're not trying to run through it. Why go to Times Square thrice? Why twice at Wall Street and Ground Zero? How much of a pleb are you that you're not listing a single museum or truly historical place?

>>2880235
>definitely check out Flushing
Lmao are you trying to bait him and waste his time? I mean Flushing isn't bad at all but getting there is a pain in the dick and he may as well get Chinese in Chinatown. Besides that and the >Mest it's an ugly residential area really.

>>2882201
>waste his time?
Guy has a week to kill, he can take a 45 minute ride on the 7 train to the biggest Chinatown in America.
It is a very ugly area, yeah, but from there you can walk south to the botanical garden, and then the giant park is right west of that. I think it's a fine stop for Queens.

>>2882150
Seven days sounds good. There's a ton to do in New York, you could spend the whole trip just going to artsy movie theaters or seeing different Broadway shows, so honestly the longer the better. And if you need a break you could always take the train out to Jersey; Princeton is an hour and a half ride from Penn Station :)
>t. Jersey anon

>>2882297
>Guy has a week to kill, he can take a 45 minute ride on the 7 train to the biggest Chinatown in America.
>It is a very ugly area, yeah, but from there you can walk south to the botanical garden, and then the giant park is right west of that. I think it's a fine stop for Queens.
Have you ever been there? It's shitty af. The botanical garden is a forgettable nothingburger

>>2882299
>you could spend the whole trip just going to artsy movie theaters or seeing different Broadway shows
You're a cock sucking queer if you pretend to enjoy that

>>2882201
If you want Chinese you go to Tribeca, not Chinatown, poser
>t. Gay New Yorker

>>2882539
*Jew Yorker, apologies,

As a gay europoor I absolutely love NYC. It’s probably the most gay friendly city I’ve ever visited outside of Tel Aviv. Pro tip: get on Grindr as soon as you get off the plane

>>2879843
Times Square in the daytime is hell, but if you're a night owl, I highly recommend going there around 2am. Closest thing we have to the busy nocturnal public plazas I've seen in Europle

Is it safe to walk at night or is it dangerous?

>>2883581
kek

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How do I get the Seinfeld experience? I went to New York for a few days when I was younger. I want to see Intrepid but that's about it. People watching is enough entertainment for me.

>>2883581
The one time I was walking in Manhattan at night a manic drug-addled negro got right up in my face shouting gibberish at me for no good reason. It didn't escalate to violence but I got the impression that it very easily could have. NY is teeming with characters like him, and it really put me off.

>>2883671
>How do I get the Seinfeld experience?

Be Jewish and nag and complain about everything and then die alone.

>>2883671
go to mold mansion in queens

is there any point of going to NYC if I've already seen the great cities of Europe (Paris, Rome, Amsterdam, Prague etc.)?

>>2880324
I'm as white as it gets but I'm also 6'2 and well built so the ninjas don't try to start shit with me

What kind of weird freak NPC goes to NYC for tourism?

>>2879904
>trying to get shot
You sound like transplant. You're not going to get shot going to 125th street...stabbed with a dirty syringe? Fist fight with some homeless faggot? Sure. But shot? Nope.

>>2884265
NYC is a giga-alpha tier global city. It is hugely prominent in cultural terms. Countless movies and tv shows are set there. You can’t really blame anyone for wanting to see it for themselves. Personally, I was a bit disappointed, but at least the itch is scratched and my curiosity satisfied.

>"3 day" work trip in Long Island, with general plan of:
>Day 1 = arrive at 4PM and im free after that
>Day 2 = work 8-6 (try and squeeze in something here)
>Day 3 = work 6-2, flight leaves at 8
>realize Long Island is actually really long and getting to the city requires 1.5+ hrs of driving either way
>realize the drivers out here are nuts and driving in Manhattan looks like hell
>okay the train, ill book a hotel near the train thats between both the city and my Long Island job
>Jamaica, Queens eh?
>kinda in between the city and where ill be working
>train station a block from the hotel
>decide to book 1 night here and use it only as a spot to crash
>in retrospect this was a good decision
>arrive to hotel
>looks like a warzone
>trash and ghetto blacks everywhere
>holy fuck this is the lobby entrance?
>theres an empty lot directly across the street filled with trash and large metal/wood debris
>hotel itself seems nice enough
>throw the bag in the room, shower, change and hop on the E-Train
>the train hauls ass I like it
>disembark and emerge through the Oculus
>the Oculus looks beautiful with the low angle sun catching its fins
>fuckin starving
>walk to Joes pizza Fulton St.
>its bretty good
>go to WTC memorial
>the pools are nice
>the new WTC tower itself looks like a dull glass box sadly
>hop on the J-Train to Little Italy
>Little Italy smells amazing immediately
>nice views down the red brick building lined streets, cool restaurants and bars everywhere
>grab 2 slices of L'Industrie because its apparently ZOMG AMAZING
>thoroughly unimpressed by the pizza
>conclude it is overrated
>originally planned to swing back down to Fraunces Tavern but fuck up and get on the wrong train
>realize im heading the wrong way but by now im already midtown
>frantically hop onto another train at the next stop only to keep heading the same wrong direction

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>>2885844
>the new WTC tower itself looks like a dull glass box sadly
Compared to literal dull glass boxes? The new WTC is gorgeous. Reminder that the original WTC design was criticized throughout its existence and was thought of as nothing more than a corporate eyesore on the skyline. It wasn't until after they got blown up that New Yorkers pretended to like them as a cultural statement.

>>2885844
>"next stop Times Square 42nd Street"
>fuck it im hopping off
>welp might as well go to Times Square even though ive been there before and didnt plan to go here this time
>its way worse than I remember
>reeks of BO and cigarette smoke
>people fucking everywhere
>seemingly everyone is fat, brown and stinky
>reeeee over to Penn Station
>hop on train
>arrive to Jamaica station
>20 blacks outside the subway portal all start eyeballing me
>simply look at them and keep walking
>I hear one yelling "yo behind you yo behind you" over and over but I dont turn and look because im not a retard
>the hotel lobby is a stark contrast to the warzone outside
>as I approach the elevator a seemingly homeless woman stumbles out singing incoherently
>a well dressed black lady gets on the elevator with me
>she asks me on which floor the "shelter" stops and its for guests
>I ask her wtf shes talking about and she informs me this hotel is also a homeless shelter and she works for the city with the homeless
>lmao great
>sleep like a baby
>work next day
>done about 6
>tired as fuck but whatever lets go
>decide to take LIRR from Farmingdale to Grand Central Station
>chug a few beers while I wait for the train
>the train is both comfy and empty
>arrive about 8:30
>too tired to do original plan
>decide to ogle Grand Central which is more impressive than I realized
>walk outside and look at the Chrysler Building and other adjacent supertalls in the area
>have a prix fixe dinner at Grand Brasserie and a few drinks
>have a few more drinks at Campbells Bar
>hop back on LIRR home
>train makes me nauseous
>vomit all over the shithole Best Western bathroom and piss on it for good measure
>take xanax to sleep but it doesnt work
>get up at 6 AM for work the next day and work til 2
>sleep in car after work due to exhaustion
>get to JFK
>longest line ive ever seen in my fuckin life
>fly out next to an obese black woman

>>2885845
While I did not see the original WTC in person, I like Minoru Yamasaki's Century Plaza Towers, which are essentially the WTC but triangular and 800 feet shorter. I like them because the sunlight has a nice quality bouncing off of their anodized aluminum facades. To describe them as "glass boxes" is simply false because those anodized aluminum columns running up their length is what made them unique.

The new WTC is a boring blue glass box. Its like some Vancouver trash on steroids minus the balconies. It is dull, uninspired and the base is ugly as fuck, a tacky assemblage of shitty looking panels, whereas the old lobby was beautiful, tall and let in lots of light through the arched windows. I can find 100 examples of blue glass boxes for every 1 example of WTC style architecture you can find, which comes back to my point about the original towers uniqueness. My dad said they used to reflect the setting sun down the streets like it was daytime, they had a special glow from their METAL facades.

They were indeed a symbol of the city, present in many pieces of media and were even the tallest buildings in the world at one point. They were unique in many ways and vastly superior to boring, smooth glass boxes, but hey to each his own.

The cherry on top of the new WTC for me is the pathetic unfinished spire and its abandoned radome, a disgusting value-engineered disgrace. I dont see how anyone could possibly like the new "spire", especially counting it as building height (lmao!). Tasteless, pathetic, cheap, lazy and insulting.

While the old WTC was iconic, the new one looks like some bullshit that belongs in Calgary or something.

>>2885848
Your post is representative of how people romanticize them in retrospect. If they didn't blow up your dad wouldn't even remember that. They were big, brutalist office buildings. Designed to maximize leasable floor space. Nothing more. They weren't "symbolic" in any way, we just view them that way now because it's novel to see them in old shows and movies. They were just buildings. The "iconic tourist landmark" thing was mostly reserved for the Empire State Building. Why would Seinfeld, a show seemingly so symbolic of NYC, only show them once? And not even in real life? Because they were big office buildings nobody gave a shit about. They weren't special. You should read some of the interviews from around the time they were built. People hated the design and as time went on they just got used to them.

What's funny is that the plaza between them was notorious because it funneled wind and 40-50 mph gusts were pretty common. If that doesn't represent how soulless and modernist they were then I don't know what else does.

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