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america is just a series of low effort disappointments
you might find some nice small businesses but most towns and cities are terrified of original architecture, bright colors, and risky, creative ideas
america is very safe and conformist
I've traveled around looking for such a thing, you can find cute expensive resort towns, or cheap falling apart towns, but never both.
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>>2885433
>but most towns and cities are terrified of original architecture, bright colors, and risky, creative ideas
yeah i dont care about that. just need somewhere with nice landscape, no deserts, and is cheap to live. if it has a bar and internet good enough for me.
>>2885435
thats exactly what im looking for.
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>>2885433
It's called practical. When you have lot of flat land, plenty of water, and no overcrowding there's just no pressure to get creative with architecture. There are no problems to solve beyond the essential.
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>>2885403
Americans have to gatekeep these things because if NGOs and the government find out they will literally flag the town for resettlement of 1 million Somali or Haitian refugees. They've destroyed countless nice cities since LBJ formalized using minorities as a Democrat voting bloc.
A little life hack would be to check the 2020 Census Bureau and put a circle around any city with a low percentage of Blacks/African Americans. Not saying they're incapable of living in a nice community. Just saying for the most part, the places they live are violent, 3rd world-tier shit holes.
I just wish they had access to more education and free govt money to fix this /s.
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>>2885425
>It's bad minmaxxing to try to find a cheap American city. Take advantage of the absurdly high wages
Live with my parents in one of the high wage states, but as you can guess, that means homes here are unaffordable. That is why I am looking to buy a house, maybe small apartment, outright in one of these smaller cities or towns.
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>>2885514
>Live with my parents in one of the high wage states, but as you can guess, that means homes here are unaffordable. That is why I am looking to buy a house, maybe small apartment, outright in one of these smaller cities or towns.
You can buy a house in another country for $10k or less
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Literally almost anywhere in America has what you are looking for. If you just want a cheap place with nice scenery. You could pay a little more and live in Oregon, or skimp on scenery and live in Iowa. It basically comes down to what climate you like.
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Rural America is grim. There is a reason there has been an exodus from small and medium sized towns. They are utterly soulless and depressing places to exist. Now there are exceptions and I'm sure plenty of people will come on here and point them out.
1. Jobs. One or two industries exist in these towns that may or may not pay a living wage. The rest is of the job market is minimum wage work often part time work in the supporting market, think grocery stores, restaurants, auto-parts store etc.
2. The people are hopeless. The only good people are the ones married with a family. The rest are either Geriatrics, burnouts or most commonly drug addicts. Anywho with ambition leaves, you feel this sentiment permeating through all of rural America. They are weary of new people and while they might show a smile on their face they don't trust you are don't want you around. Rural Americans have this forced sense of pride about their conditions.
3. Cost of living. Housing maybe cheap and but wages reflect that. You see people posting Zillow listings of decent 70K houses in towns with poverty rates pushing 50% and flaunt it as some sort of solution. Something isn't working in these places.
You're better off in a suburb of a large American metro. Find one with a half way decent Main Street and enjoy the best of both worlds. Chicago for example has plenty. You do not want to live in small town America anon, It only works for people who grew up that way. Unless you already have the money and can buy a nice piece of property stay away.
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>>2885572
Not every small place not named LA or NYC has 50% poverty rate with 80% of the population on meth you dingus. America is vast and wide and those drug dens are unironically safer than you would living in something like LA.
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>>2885479
>A little life hack would be to check the 2020 Census Bureau and put a circle around any city with a low percentage of Blacks/African Americans.
You'll notice those places are mainly in heavily democratic areas, while red states are crime ridden and always have been. The top three for murder are all based trad right wing states. The lowest three murder rates are all nasty liberal hellholes that support NGOs.
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>>2885667
These two dudes are about as retarded as you can get. Blacks are from the South. Brought there as slaves. The north freed them. The blacks in the south are heavily ostracized so they started moving to big cities in the north. The north ostracized them to ghettos too
As for crime or staying away from blacks, you just stay out of the black part of town
Here a song from the 70s to help explain the situation:
https://youtu.be/hTLHxpUQ_B8
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>>2885548
>live in Oregon, or skimp on scenery and live in Iowa.
And, like every state Iowa has gems. I went to Quad Cities, Iowa and it was one of the most rich with scenery - the most beautiful babbling creeks all over, seemly every park is connected to one and they are some of the most beautiful walks I've done in my life. The wildlife was great too, lots of back squirrels and chipmunks. And the trees they have there are among my favorites
I'm blonde hair blues eyes so one of the things that stood out to me is I've never seen as many blonde hair blue eyes people as they had. Swedish roots. You see people hanging the Sweden flag on their homes and the Swedes founded the university there
Its not far from Chicago, the red splotch SWW of Chicago here
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>>2885667
>WV one of the poorest states and heavy meth usage
>Only, 1 point off from California
How strange...I wonder why that is. Why is WV so relatively low despite being super poor and everyone is a crackhead down there. That doesn't add up...
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>>2885514
My buddy was in the exact same shoes as you last year. Someone mentioned jobs and cost of living but you need to break it down more than that. For example, auto insurance rates vary wildly by region and town. Part of the reason he wanted to move is because our car insurance rates soared in recent history. But yeah with cost of living, ask AI all the things you need to consider, find some good articles on it. Think of all the insurance you need and tax rates (property tax, sakes, tax, etc)
After a lot of work he decided on Tennessee between Nashville and Knoxville where he found a house like this
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>>2885690
Oh
This dude here is one of dumbest dudes imaginable:
>>2885572
He's basically seething at how nice it is in rural America and telling you the opposite of reality just because he's a seething shithead like most people on here
Rural America, small towns of 5k, they are basically all like heaven. In college when I first made friends with a lot of rural people, it became obvious fast rural people have it nicer than city people..City people turn out a lot more grouchy cynical, unlikable and the girls will be offended over a hug. Country people are the opposite, their girls love giving you tight full body, full breast-in-chest hugs. Its like the article I read by a city guy the other day he works in the city but always lives out in a town of 5k and he wrote a whole article on how much better 5k life is, it's well known hence why dude we are replying to is splurging out in pettiness (classic city person)
But small town life has its downsides. The two I most hear are
1) tight knit communities and small towns are great but a lot more people are going to know you, you're going to be much less anon. If you're not a likeable person living a likeable life, this could suck
2) nothing to do. My friend who has only lived in big city suburbs can't make it in a small town because they don't have all the stuff you take for granted in the suburbs. For her it's coffee shops on every corner.
With my friend that moved to Tennessee, he doesn't drink so he doesn't even care about bars. Now he does love food and to eat out so you need to make sure this small town has a nice collection of restaurants that you're happy with. But with him I don't even know he checked that, didn't come up but on his list of what he needs, he just had Walmart. He's basically a homebody so all he needs is to be by a Walmart as thats the place to get shit cheap.
But think about Home Depot etc. Think of every place you won't feel right not having
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>>2885698
>I bought a 1br house in southwestern PA for 95k last year. Its nothin fancy but my monthly payment is only $650
Nice. How is the internet and main street? I google map travel to some small towns and some have cute little main streets with bars and shops.
>>2885696
>With my friend that moved to Tennessee, he doesn't drink so he doesn't even care about bars. Now he does love food and to eat out so you need to make sure this small town has a nice collection of restaurants that you're happy with. But with him I don't even know he checked that, didn't come up but on his list of what he needs, he just had Walmart. He's basically a homebody so all he needs is to be by a Walmart as thats the place to get shit cheap.
>But think about Home Depot etc. Think of every place you won't feel right not having
Thanks yeah that seems right.
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>>2885707
>cute little main streets
That's part of the reason I think the people above ragging small town, rural America are retarded. I'm very social so I love nightlife, my city has around 10 of those "cute little main streets" where all the nightlife is. I live right in the middle of one of them
I quickly found out when I first drove around my state that my state has a lot of hidden gem cute little main streets were all the nightlife is, and most of them are in small little towns the anons ITT have never heard of.
Then all my friends who moved to other states quickly found out the same thing when driving around their new states. And with the Internet and Google maps you can go look up tons about them.
All those towns are peak walkable. Here on /trv/ I remember helping a guy moving to Fargo. Their cute little main street is awesome and it's pretty big as it's a college town. Helped him find a great spot on the cute little main street with everything in walking distance. Urban grocery on corner...I guess I forgot to check for hardware store. I have one of those on my cute little main street. Also a computer repair shop. Those I two I forgot to check for Fargo's cute little main Street
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>>2885712
>I quickly found out when I first drove around my state that my state has a lot of hidden gem cute little main streets were all the nightlife is, and most of them are in small little towns the anons ITT have never heard of.
Nice, can you name a couple?
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>>2886170
nothing
t. traveled all over the state
morgantown is a suburb of pittsburgh and is different because there's a huge university there
it's also well connected to highways, which most of WV cannot say the same
if you want to live somewhere pretty, you will be sacrificing having access to healthcare, good grocery stores, etc. to be near nice mountains
the biggest towns in wv are 50k people
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>>2885680
I've heard the economic situation in the Quad Cities area is not ideal for finding work. But yeah, I really want to live someplace in America with big shade trees and creeks and placid white people riding bicycles around on summer evenings. That part of the country tends to have low rental prices as well. You could probably get a very nicely furnished spare room for $500 per month. Summer swelter in the Midwest is no worse than tropical Asia desu, and of course everybody has A/C.
>>2885696
If you're a prickly solo male who shows up alone in rural America, you will become extremely lonely and probably grow to hate the town you are in and the hollow friendliness that people will show toward you to demonstrate how inclusive and kind they are to the less fortunate. It's purely performative; try to get closer to them as a friend and they will stonewall you. Why? Because you are one of the slave class. Being a migrant laborer in small town America puts you at the very bottom of the social ladder. As long as you accept this, and maybe puff on some weed every evening after work to numb your prefrontal cortex, you can grind away the hours, stack the money, and then catch the bus out with half a dozen goodbyes if you're lucky.
>muh walmart
And no, you don't need fucking Walmart to live. Stop being such a goyslop consoomer. Go buy your clothes at a thrift store.
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>>2886390
the hills vary widely in size and some areas are much closer to towns or highways than others
there's a highlands areas with 3000-4000 ft hills but you get down to Parkersburg and the Ohio river and it's more like 1000 ft
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>>2886431
this looks pretty nice
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/225-7th-St-Parkersburg-WV-26101/806 18033_zpid/?utm_campaign=zillowwebm essage&utm_medium=referral&utm_sour ce=txtshare
according to some crime website, parkersburg is below the national average in crime, with most crime being property crime, probably the meth heads near downtown. but meth heads are not a bad deal if youre used to them living in one of the bigger cities in the country.
id buy that, have a gay little coffee shop or something downstairs. why not?
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>>2886456
health insurance is a scam, the second you need anything more serious than a doctors vist theyll find an excuse to not cover it anyways. may as well give yourself 500 bucks a month for health emergencies. plus if you buy out the entire building, that commerical rent on the bottom floor would help a lot too.
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>>2886478
>check google maps
>two krogers, a piggly wiggly, and a little mall with a walmart super center and a TJ Maxx
>Longhorn Steakhouse with Lowes or Home Depot
>Hospital too
did you even bother to check google maps you can see if your stereotypes are true you lazy bum
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>>2886436
I feel like there WAS a gay coffee shop and it closed. There's a gay hotel, and that's nice enough. Parkersburg is ok, there's definitely some older money there, some mansions, but there's some blacks and ghetto too and it's kinda gray and concrete and not a lot going on and you are very far from the pretty mountain part of WV.
You have cute towns closer to the mountains, but even less going on - Richwood, Marlinton - for example.
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>>2886501
Yeah, and your ass will have to drive there. Your ass will certainly have to drive to the job site for your based blue collar $40k/yr job. Or leachmaxx, I guess.
Moving to a place like this is economic and social suicide.
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>>2886255
Canon City is one of the hottest places in the state during the summer. Average high temp in July is about 100 F. Downtown is much neater than Pueblo.
The problem with that region of Colorado isn't the towns, it's the assholes who live in them. This from one local who would say "fuck this place" and go try his luck somewhere else, but always return because the money was good. Pueblo has some surprisingly high-paying blue collar factory jobs.
The irony is that my previous job was in the upper Arkansas valley. Like a turd I got flushed, and now the simplest choice is to end up somewhere shittier downriver, with awful-tasting tap water and sketchy non-whites loitering on street corners instead of pure mountain goodness from the tap and a 1950s Main Street America vibe.
>>2886429
Most of the Midwest is not pancake flat like Florida is, unless you're cruising along the Platte River valley on I-80/I-76 (that route is seriously flat). Cut straight across a state like Kansas, and the whole ride is basically hill and valley.
>>2886436
Those riverside West Virginia towns are surprisingly crammed due to the lack of flat space that is not a floodplain. Buildings are very close together. It's different from most of middle America, where everything sprawls for miles. However, don't expect a thriving happy downtown like you would in Europe or Asia. Everything is deserted and bleak and depressing.
>>2886456
Your first struggle would be finding a job as an outsider in such a place. Local guys may be very hostile.
>>2886561
Not if you aren't 350 pounds of disabled blubber like the average local. Like I said earlier, Parkersburg is a very compact city, much more so than some place in Arkansas or god forbid Nebraska. It's walkable.
>social suicide
Only if you're hoity toity cityfag who only wants to hang out with good-looking people. You have to be able to overlook people's ugliness and obesity if you want to live in WV.
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>house talk (america no less)
>/trv/
Oh boy another one of THESE threads.
This thread is filled with euro and aussie niggers mad their houses are +1m for a shack on the edge of town while Ahmed just gets a free pass.
Most US cities are crime safe to live in especially in the midwest. Shit like >>2885667 and >>2885679 , fail to bring up a lot. I remember looking at these sites and didn't realize even shit like DWI would jack up shit. Also any college town will blow it through the roof as parties/weed/underage drinking/petty theft/kids fighting = huge LE BAD in these things despite being insanely niche.
A good metric for judging places is look at the locals schools performance in education/graduation.
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>mih niggers
Don't go buy the 40-60k house in Montgomery AL and you're fine.
If you want a mid-tier house OP, go to San Anotino TX it fits the bill. Sure it's flat-ish but more rolling hills than anything, decent rain to keep everything green, ocean is 2-3 hour drive if you have an itch for it.
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>>2886543
>Parkersburg is ok, there's definitely some older money there, some mansions, but there's some blacks and ghetto too and it's kinda gray and concrete and not a lot going on and you are very far from the pretty mountain part of WV.
I think I like the look of Parkersburg. Little downtown even if a little deserted, some nice hills, not huge like near the real mountaints but still 600 ft hills is still pretty big and makes for some nice scenery compared to the plains of texas or something. Real grocery stores nearby, a hospital, a mall, home improvement stores. I think I would like a place like that very much.
Buy a cheap house flat out cash. Get some roomates, work at the grocery store 3/4 days a week and chill out.
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>>2886646
location-wise they are great - right near good amounts of public land, waterways, trails, etc. but not a whole lot going on in either town
marlinton was sorta a fake town invented because the railroad owner wanted it there and he paid for the courthouse to exist, now it is on the river and just east of the high mountains, it makes sense as a location, whereas richwood is up at a higher elevation, where the two forks of cherry river meet, north fork is mostly public land, south fork is almost all strip mines and timber holdings (sad)
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most people in WV live near either a major river or a highway so it's not so isolated - plenty don't but numerically most people tend to live close to something
I doubt parkersburg is as cheap as you think it is.
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>>2886641
>A good metric for judging places is look at the locals schools performance in education/graduation.
Arent all zoomers retarded though, how can you tell anything by school records? Also lots of schools just pass the retards anyways to get them out.
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>>2886719
Holy retard,
Look for private schools, look for church based schools, etc. Places with standards, look at their sports win rate, look at their college pursuant and acceptance rate.
Why is trv so fucking retarded when it comes to looking at basic living
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>>2886724
Nah you use city-data.
Also, that really doesn't work since most problem minorities cluster up especially given where this thread has been posting about. School, franchise style gym's, golf courses, absence of "bay(soul) food", churches, lack of a mall, are all good indicators.
If you're looking in the midwest just get something 8-10 minutes outside the suburbs and boom crime drops like a lead weight.
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>>2886683
Maine sees fucktons of summer tourists going up the coast to enjoy the mild weather. Many of the old New England blueblood aristocracy stay up there all summer long. Menial work is plentiful, restaurants etc. Damned if you can find an apartment anywhere there is lots of work, however. Interior Maine sees far fewer tourists and is more podunk backwoods weird. Auburn/Lewiston is full of Somalian and Ethiopian migrants who have taken over the whole of Main Street with their shops.
>>2886741
If the kids get in trouble, white parents chastise them instead of attacking the police for doing their job.
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>>2886741
>then why do white trash states have significantly lower crime rates compared to their black counterparts?
Because white trash is smart and knows how to usually hide it, like buying piss from the smoke shop to pass a urine test. Doesn't mean it can't ruin the neighborhood.