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so what happens today, Homelander is immune to the virus as Souljaboi survied?
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>>219766832
Homelander Jr was still alive though.
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They are going to downward spiral homelander to give him the same ending as the comic books, they've probably replaced black noir with a homelander clone already.
They kept making homelander something that they hate but audiences liked up to the end of season 3, since season 4 it's been character assassination with him become increasingly unhinged increasingly fast.
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>>219764387
>Leaks: Homelander is depowered and lives as a normal until he dies of old age
No way literally anyone would be satisfied with that
"Oh yeah you murdered hundreds of innocent people, ruined the entire country, locked up your opponents in concentration camps and showed zero remorse, but now you've lost your powers so all is well lol"
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Roian, kys
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this made me laugh
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>She killed Maverick!
y tho?
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>>219766832
I dont understand, maybe I missed something. Why did Ryan spazz out at butcher about lying?
Butcher told him he would have to kill himself with the virus. Theres a lot of instances where people get mad at Butcher for completely asinine reasons, to try to get the audience against him or something.
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>homelander in the final confrontation
>looks straight into the camera
>sweeps his hair down into a trump cut
>i guess i'll have to activate.. my Trump Card
>injects himself with old V and orders for all Starlegals to be gassed
whoa.. cinema..
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>>219764361
>tries so hard to make the right look bad
>makes the right look good instead
How do they keep on fucking this up?
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>>219775630
It was shit writing and just a contrived way to kill off maverick and her OP power while making hughey survive again. Hughey has such impenetrable plot armor at this point that he could just go 1 on 1 with Homelander and somehow still survive.
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>>219775568
really weird to add translucent son, just for him to also have his dad's powers coincidentally (zoe doesn't explode heads like her mother) and then have him die in the same episode he's introduced. Literal plot device the character.
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>>219769740
>They kept making homelander something that they hate but audiences liked up to the end of season 3, since season 4 it's been character assassination with him become increasingly unhinged increasingly fast.
In season 1 he was literally jealous of a baby.
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>>219775776
zoe was given v as a teen, maverick got it as a baby
powers are genetic except when they aren't, gen v has a magnetism power guy who's dad also has magnetism powers, and maverick having invisibility, but no invincible skin lol
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>>219776075
She's perfect. Shame the actress is a lesbo.
>>219776102
Is that her real voice? I was expecting her to sound a little more Jap.
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I miss the cross marketing.
It's what got me watching the show in the first place.
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Season 4
>frenchie is gay for no reason
>butcher is dying but not anymore
>Edgar is released then imprisoned again
>Neuman is killed to move the plot. But it would happen exactly the same way if she wasn't killed
>Kimiko starts talking because uh
>Howie and Starbog do random irrelevant stuff
>Macguffin virus
There are probably more . But these plot points are so stupid , i cant even tell what this show is about.
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>>219773549
The actress is a bitchy lesbian.
The whole grabbing the sheet to cover up scene was more than just the show.
Her snatching the sheet and rolling away, plus the weak ass flex of her back during the sex scene just shows how inexperienced and unknowing she is as a person about having sex with men.
She doesn't even know how to fake having sex with a man, much less good sex.
The sheet snatching was Valorie's way of pretending that she wasn't just semi naked with a man.
She's a cunt.
And not even a brit or aussie version of a cunt.
She's just your run of the mill liberal cunt.
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>>219769740
It could have been kino >>219776685
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>>219776873
>firecracker model
>no porn
so sad
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So I just watched all three episodes for the first time, and what the fuck. Is it just me or have they gone turbo mode on the Reddit faggotry? That's how I wanna describe it because it's pretty accurate, it's literally like a bunch of Redditors got together to write the show. It's unwatchable, the only reason I'm watching at this point is because I wanna see it to the end. I don't remember it being this bad, I actually liked all the previous seasons and was excited for this one but immediately after watching the first episode, I knew this whole season was gonna be complete and total dog shit. Starts off with a million different references of all the new stuff in pop culture, it's like they're just going 'see how we've been keeping up with everything that's been happening? Aren't we cool?!' Cringey as fuck. And the countless instances of faggot lefty political points being shoved in, like holy shit. So clearly forced, inorganic and serving no purpose to the actual story beyond simply as promotion of said political beliefs. Straight up lazy, dull, insufferable and pathetic. And I don't get it. Am I the only one noticing the extreme downgrade in comparison with previous seasons? It's like they've really let go and completely ran out of ideas and inspiration.
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>>219778747
Not sure what that means because I don't watch that but if you mean that Kimiko looks bad in this season then I agree. Erin Moriarty looking the way she does is no surprise but I think I remember Kimiko looking much cuter and prettier in the earlier seasons. She looks really aged in this one, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's an intentional choice.
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>>219764387
They are gonna do a noir thing because they are running out of ideas and literally have to run BACK to the comic. Which they claimed was not as good as the show. Lol
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>>219775580
Epstein was not Ukrainian, he was from NYC.
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everytime kimiko opens her fucking mouth i want to kill her. who ever decided thats a good choice to have her talk like a vapid cunt needs to be barred from writing forever.
its kinda funny the comic's endgame was written so much better than the show's.
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i dont know if im crazy, but wasnt it a whole thing in like season 1 that supes cant have kids and that ryan was some sort of anomaly? why is there translucents kid and nobody even acknowledges it?
>its not his real kid
then why does he have the same powers?
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>message of the comics is "if le supes were real they'd all be evil psychopathic hollywood pedos"
>message of the show is "if le supes were real they'd be evil psychopathic tyrannical MAGA expies"
>both try to paint Butcher as somehow going "too far" in the end and he needs to be stopped
How would you fix this writing
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>>219769740
>since season 4 it's been character assassination with him become increasingly unhinged increasingly fast.
He was always a piece of shit with emotional issues. It’s not character assassination when he becomes more emboldened and unhinged while trying to run things and it all blowing up in his face
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Thoughts on Cindy?
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She probably doesn't bother to apply her skincare routine to the neck, especially the sunscreen. Common mistake.
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wait did they retcon that Homelander raped Becky? Honestly seems beneath him, like I don't see him bothering to put forth the effort into rape and he prefers the girl to do all the work while he watches himself in the mirror. He has a pathological need to be loved, his ego would require her to want him, forcing himself onto someone is out of character.
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So I'm watching season 4 so I can catch up and in ep 2, Kimiko said she fucked some guy in a bar. I immediately smashed my tv. Kimiko is my wife and they made her fuck some random faggot offscreen.
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so Kimiko is a coomer and loves DP porn? She's just like me
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>>219782785
now she's fatter
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>>219782537
Feels more like it was Weinsteinesque "rape" i.e. she didn't dare to say no due to implicit social pressure. Homelander have gotten so flanderized at this point that he's completely asexual, I'm having a hard time seeing him raping a woman in the first place
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>>219782537
given how infantile the show's writers are it's pretty much guaranteed he raped her and is just lying to Ryan about it (as he was a pathological liar until he didnt need to put up an act)
I cant recall if Becky ever stated she was raped since she was revealed to be alive, but Im pretty sure she would have come clean to Butcher if that wasnt the case
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I watched the first season, dropped a few episodes into the second and have ignored it until now. I just watched a bunch of S5 clips and got whiplash, I have never seen dialogue as bad and delivery as low effort as what I've just witnessed. This is horrifically tacky and on the nose social commentary, they got a laugh out of me but definitely not for what they intended, it was the deep making an offhand about trans bathrooms, I think I'm supposed to clap because MAGA bad or something.
The thing that always bothered me with parody series is that they are hypocritical. This series is smug about being anti-capeslop but immediately becomes capeslop with the same appeals, there is no clever message to be told here
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>>219783910
i feel like they forgot she did communicate prior to now; sign language is still functionally speaking. if shed never spoken to anyone at all and then it turned out she was like this all along thatd be one thing, but why did becoming able to speak come with a personality transplant? we know what she was like before lmao
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>>219764361
People watch this Jewish shit?
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>>219782634
a threeway of any kind is degenerate, but you being worried that it's "gay" if there's two men involved but both are fucking a woman and not each other illustrates that you probably don't have friends
and I'm not saying everyone who has friends bangs girls together, only that being so adverse to the concept seems like you'd probably also wouldn't have a friend to play Resident Evil 5 with, let alone share a girl
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>>219779660
wasnt homelander way stronger in the comic and noir was really the only supe who could kill him
idk how thats gonna work when they made homelander so weak in the tv show, both mentally and physically. i just skimmed through the comic but homelander was way more menacing in it, like he was still troubled and kinda retarded but he afak he never chickened out as much as he does in the show
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imagine
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>>soldier boy worked with Putin against our enemy Ukraine
there have been so few mentions of anything outside of america throughout the entirety of the show. what does the rest of the world look like in this universe? do other countries have superheroes? in season 1 homelander was giving compound V to middle eastern terrorists, which seemed to be a big deal. does that mean superheroes are ordinarily only american? what does war look like in this world? if ukraine is americas enemy why cant they just send homelander over there to deal with it in an afternoon? also, if america and russia are formally allied, what the fuck are the implications of that? does america share compound v with its allies? if america has a monopoly on V, if they give it to allies with warmongering intentions, cant those allies just make supe armies to take whatever they want? are V/supes subject to international conventions the way other means of warfare are?
i get that im thinking about it too much and its retarded but putting that line in to shit on trump or whatever raises so many questions about the show. it really only works in its own little america bubble
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>>219786758
>counterpoint
You're a fag lol
In earnest though, immersion will shape you just as much as formative stages, because it is a formation stage itself. Couple that with the various versions of therapy she went through a complete personality change is just par for the course.
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>>219786528
>if ukraine is americas enemy why cant they just send homelander over there to deal with it in an afternoon?
Because from american PoV war in Ukraine is just petty squable of Russia and it's rebellious province.
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>>219786926
>Do you live on another planet?
uhh..no? I live on Terra..
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>>219786885
except they tell people soldier boy was there and no one questions it, which implies its a normal thing. i guess like how soldier boy and his team were in south america in the 60s. but the implications of america using supes against its enemies are a mess.
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>>219786952
Watch it, Marina.
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>>219780387
Where do you think a jew that needed little kids to fuck got the kids from?
Some came from the US.
The vast majority came from the country that is world renowned for sex trafficking little kids.
In case you are unaware or a liberal, the number one country for sex trafficking for the last thirty plus years is Ukraine.
They sell their own mothers into prostitution there.
And the women sell the males into the draft to die fighting.
Ukrainians are evil, whether male or female.
Are you twelve and fucking retarded?
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>>219782418
No, she isn't.
She's been separated from that guy for five years, and divorced almost as long.
She claims that he was a toxic male that took advantage of her and had hetero sex with her, and that she did it because he gaslighted her into thinking she was not gay.
She also claims that she has always been a lesbian, and that evil men forced her into marriage for appearances.
Catch up, fuckwit.
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>>219788117
See, this is how we know that you are a retard.
V1 doesn't make you immortal, invulnerable, and all powerful.
It gives you immortality, yes, but you also have whatever power you randomly got.
If that power is to be able to make all animals in a thirty foot radius start fucking, well, that's your power.
V1 doesn't mean that you are invulnerable.
At bare minimum it means you don't age.
Your ability to convince a dog to fuck a squirrel has nothing to do with it.
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so why don't they?
also you're not really "immune" to a virus if it makes you cough up black goo and go into such a state of near death that paramedics can show up and put you a body bag because seemingly all your vital signs are flat
this is another thing that seems like less of a big deal, when during the time soldier boy was incapacitated, some could've put him into another freeze tube and thrown him into the ocean
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>>219788269
Compound V1 does at least give you a long time to perfect your abilities though.
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What, bullets? They bounce off.
Bombs? Sure he gets tossed away.
Homelander punched SB a bunch of times. He shrugged it off.
SB was kept in the tube at -190 degrees. He woke up and and ignored it.
I suppose if someone were to separate his head from his body, that he would probably die.
Right now, it looks like Homelander is the only one strong enough to do that.
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>>219788070
The media was pushing the psyop at the time that whites were behind anti-Asian violence in the wake of COVID.
And they still are. The Pitt had a storyline where a white dude pushed a Nepalese woman in front of a train and a black man saved her.
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>>219788350
>OMG, you were temporarily incapacitated! That means that you are not invulnerable!
He spent half an hour taking a nap after he was hit with the nastiest thing you could be hit with.
You get hit with an ultimate weapon, and you get up a few minutes later no worse the wear.
Did we forget that the russians spent over thirty years trying to kill SB with a wide variety of fatal shit?
I mean, the most deadly nerve agent in existence was barely enough to keep him in a coma, and that was all he was breathing for decades.
SB might as well be Doomsday. He sniffed halothane and popped half a boner.
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>>219786528
Vought controls who’s a supe. They only give it to Americans, which is why they get so pissed about HL giving that middle eastern dude V and leaking the existence of compound V.
HL did that, and the entire first season, because Vought wanted superheroes in the military in order to set up individual contracts with the US government. The government was refusing.
So war looks basically the exact same
“America” doesn’t have control over supes
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the show is written like shit, so yeah if the virus is incapable of binding to the v1, there shouldn't have been any physical effects. Its the difference between a kritonite bullet and a regular bullet vs superman, if its normal it should just bounce right off, not cause similar effects to what a kriptonite bullet would.
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>>219788594
A kryptonite bullet would still hurt a human if they were shot with it.
With proper medical treatment, or a retardedly fast healing factor, the person would be fine in a short time.
I'm not defending the writing, just pointing out that your argument is dumb.
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>>219788651
He was frozen and fed ridiculously high levels of a lethal nerve agent.
It took half a dozen supes to put him in that state the first time.
The second time, he radblasted and passed out and they got him while he was unconscious.
And he still couldn't be killed.
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>It took half a dozen supes to put him in that state the first time.
>The second time, he radblasted and passed out and they got him while he was unconscious.
wow, that's rough
good thing they now have a confirmed way to knock him out for an extended period of time via timed explosive or air-duct boobytrap or some other method that wouldn't even require being anywhere near him
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>>219788117
I know you didn't watch Gen V because of this shit opinion, and because "hurrdurr Gen V bad",but if Marie reassembled Godolkin, there is no reason she couldn't do the same for Stormfront, which is why I fully believe her suicide was faked and she will be back for the final confrontation.
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>>219788721
Now I know that you are being fucking retarded.
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>bullet would still hurt a human
in this case it wouldn't, he's effectively superman, why would getting hit with a virus that can't harm him, harm him in a similar way as if he wasn't immune? Just dramatic effect, it doesn't make sense. It's effectively like making a bullet hurt superman the same a kriptonite bullet would.
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soldier boy literally collapsed and choked to near death
so just hit him with like 10x as much and his super indestructible lungs will just stop working and he will die
yes, he may be immortal conventionally and impervious to damage, but he appears to need to breathe, so give him more of the virus and he would just die
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>but he appears to need to breathe,
why not send him to fucking space then? give him the kars treatment
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>>219789181
maybe he can hold his breath for a long time, who knows
but he was actively coughing and choking and spitting up black goo from the virus, which means he's not "immune"
it would be like saying you're "immune" to fatal nerve gas because it normally kills people in 2 minutes but you only almost died, rather than fully dying, so maybe for you it would take like 4 minutes of exposure
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Every single season ends with Butcher and the rest of the team getting apart. And every new season starts with them somehow working together again.
Does the writer have dementia or something? Or he/she isnt ashamed of doing the same shit over and over again?
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>>219789681
I could watch her goon all day long.
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>>219787692
That the thing for me, is this on purpose? Are we supposed to believe that UE and starlight and crew are the good guys or even have any sort of moral high ground? MM is the only one I can see who hasn’t completely compromised his values.
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>>219780923
he got invisibility when they injected the v into him as a baby and everybody thought it would be really fucking funny to pretend transluscent was his dad and transluscent found out and went along with it because he thought it was really fucking funny too
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>>219789681
It's like they're making Kimiko as unlikable as possible to soften the blow for when she dies.
Kimiko went from one of the most nuanced characters to a quip machine in an ocean of interchangeable quip machines.
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I'm convinced not a single dialogue writer is over 13 years old. They just let their kids write the scripts like Trey Parker.
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Like another anon said, it really feels like Seth Rogen's writing
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>>219790483
This has been going on since at least season three. The first two seasons attempted to use semi-realistic dialogue. Now every single character talks like they're trying to game the X algorithm for maximum exposure. You have middle-aged corporate executives making sexually charged threats while at work. Every single exchange of words needs to reference a sex act or fetish. How can the audience possibly care what happens to characters who talk like this?
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The boys honestly takes a lot of jabs at the elites and current politics despite Bezos footing the bill and the show sharing a streaming platform with that stupid fucking Melania Documentary. It all feels a bit too convenient, like a soft rebellion so people can identify with the characters and then go back to being placated consumers subbed to prime and accepting the world as it turns to a circus ran by billionaires because a few clever reddit writers shat on the in-universe version of the trump admin. It empowers normal people to do nothing but fantasize and go like "oh yeah it would be cool if the real world had superheroes and effective rebellions, hmm better renew my zog subscription." I get that the point of entertainment is to entertain, and some things are topical, but the whole premise of the messaging feels so dishonest coming from amazon.
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>It all feels a bit too convenient, like a soft rebellion
"Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values." --Ted Kaczynski
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It's actually crazy this episode came out days after the retard's tweet.
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>>219788514
Ukraine is no one's ally.
Ukraine is a whore.
Once you stop paying Ukraine, she'll fuck your friend, your enemy, your dad, annyone who pays her next.
It's a country of prostitutes mainly known for their sex trafficking.
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He's in