I don't give a fuck when adaptations are not faithful. I give a fuck when they're not good.
If something is different from the source but good and well-made, no one minds.

>>219790646
my body is ready for the inevitable internet-wide meltdown when the mass effect adaptation finally starts going

>>219790726
Naw fuck that. Just be accurate and good

Yet they still took the money.

>>219790779
We're all expecting it to be trash for Modern Audiences. Written by Californians who sneer at video games and sci-fi. Why would there be a meltdown?

>>219790819
good point mr bezos

>>219790779
Nobody has cared about mass effect for 10 years

>>219790646
I still don’t really get what’s wrong with the god of war image. Someone explain it to me

>>219790726
The easiest way for an adaptation to be good is to be faithful to the source material, preserving what people liked about it in the first place

>>219790646
It's funny because the only times I have seen changes having greatly improved the source material is when it's something written by Stephen King

>>219790858
No, the easiest way is to have competent people making it with something to say.
There's a million Warhammer 40k novels, which are all faithful to the source, and every single one of them sucks major balls.

>>219790840
You don't get to cry about your work being bastardized if you sold the rights. This is doubly true if you sell the rights to a buyer who has a clear and consistent history of doing XYZ, like Netflix and Amazon do.

>>219790646
Hollywood has a rule which they don't hire fans of the works they adapt

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>>219790952
Nah you're a retard with a small dick

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>>219790646
REMINDER that David Jaffe is a fucking retard who made the Underworld level in first God of War, and his biggest achievement is being a host of LOLcow Live podcast until Keemstar fired him.

>>219790998
No, the reality is that it's easier to get approval for your show or film if you tie it to an existing IP

>>219790881
Jaws
Forrest Gump
Die Hard
Full Metal Jacket
The Godfather
Who Framed Roger Rabbit

>>219791040
The first three films you listed are dog shit

>>219790646
selling out
then get surprised when they piss and shit all over your life's work

>>219790881
Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones.

>>219791003
>can't even get the text placement correct on the mug
lmao @ brownoids

>>219790952
Being faithful to the source isnt guaranteed to make it good, but not being faithful to the source is almost always going to be bad.

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>>219790646
>Fantasy Authors Increasingly Call Out "Unfaithful" Adaptations

It's the authors own fault for grabbing the money the networks dropped in their lap and not signing a contract that gives them some level of control over the adaptions.

GRRM clearly didn't give a fuck and took the money and ran, letting HBO do whatever they wanted with his work despite him having worked in tv in the past and knowing how they operate.

Meanwhile, "Walking Dead' author Robert Kirkman signed a deal making him a full producer on the tv adaption of his comic, which for example gave him the power to force AMC to shitcan the original showrunner when he wanted to drastically change the story.

>>219790646
Christopher Tolkien hated Jackson's movies.

>>219790726
No, if it isn't faithful, there is no point doing it.

>>219791311
So?

>>219791040
The Godfather is literally the same as the book.

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>>219791311
>Christopher Tolkien hated Jackson's movies.

True, and the story is that he was forced into the deal by the rest of the Tolkien family, who only saw dollar signs (though IMO Jackson's flicks were pretty good).

>>219790646
On one hand i agree with them. On the other hand if you don't want other people making changes don't sell the license you clown.

>>219790726
unironically the most media LITERATE post here
upvoted

>>219791040
The novel Jaws devotes more time to Brody's wife being a cheating whore than it does to the fucking shark eating people. The Godfather is a pretty lousy book too.

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>>219791517
>The Godfather is literally the same as the book.

Indeed, though Coppola did remove the parts about not-Frank Sinatra and not-Dean Martin as well as Sonny's mistress and her cavernous pussy, neither of which added anything to the story and were just padding (though interesting parts of the novel).

>>219790726
Correct. Starship Troopers is nothing like the book but it's amazing. To be fair, that's probably the only example anyone can think of, but still.

>>219790952
The problem with 40k is that it was never supposed to be more than a setting to set stories in that gave some context to the Tabletop game + accessories that was the main attraction and the thing the company was actually selling. Players were supposed to come up with their own scenarios and stories within that very broad setting of like 10k years and billions of worlds. But fans demanded LORE and PROGRESSION and to fulfill that demand GW hired a bunch of second rate pulp writers to write some background stories and now it's basically Star Wars with capeshit characters.

>>219791595
Kubcrick's The Shining is better than King's

>>219791595
Add Jurassic Park and Game of Thrones to that, actually.

>>219790726
by definition an adaptation where you spitefully replace characters with nonwhites because you feel inferior cannot be good, goy.

>>219791641
Yes
>>219791643
No

>>219791641
The Shawshank Redemption movie is also better than King's. The Running man movie with Arnold is better than King's. What isn't, really.

>>219791635
WH40K fans are the only ones who gatekept their franchise from becoming a transgender recruitment ground. I wish every nerd franchise had Warhammer level autists.

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I'll add "Shogun" as another novel stupidly fucked up by the network, though in this case the author was dead and his daughter signed the deal. Supposedly there are plans to adopt Clavell's novel "Tai-Pan" and they'll no doubt fuck that up also.

>>219791280
>and not signing a contract that gives them some level of control over the adaptions.
Do you think studios easily hand out those kinds of contracts? In the end 99% of creators always cave in and enjoy the pay out and extra visibility to their creation. Probably the only one who has the kind of fuck you money to hold fast to creative control is JK Rowling.

>>219790646
>author sells the rights to lunatic hollywood faggots
>doesn't demand to direct himself or have any creative control
>takes a big pile of money
>complains when adaptation is le unfaithful
they do it to themselves. what do you expect faggot hollywood in 2026 to do? make something good? lmao

>>219791280
GRRM is an executive producer for GoT and HotD though

>>219791595
Same with Haunting of Hill House, besides the names of characters it's extremely different from the book but the show is very good.

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>>219790646
It's pretty depressing how even Henry Cavill couldn't save The Witcher from this shit.
It apparently didn't matter that he was the main character, a huge star, and the main draw for their series.
They were content to dump him just so they could fuck with the story.

I think this is why they always hire people who haven't read the book.
So they won't try to stand up for the integrity of the source material when orders come down from on high.

>>219791880
The show is all right, but anyone saying it's 'better than the book' hasn't read the book. A show actually based on the book would be amazing.

>>219791657
strawman

>>219790726
I don't want to hear you complain about greta's 90's narnia

>>219791688
That ship has sailed, actually. GW are just notoriously slow to adapt. It's all going to come.

>>219791892
>I think this is why they always hire people who haven't read the book.
I doubt that's the issue, it's very hard to get an original script in modern hollywood. Movie and tv writers rely on established IPs usually books and twist the source to tell their own story because they don't have any outlet to tell their own original story. That's obviously slimmy and retarded but them not being familiar with the source material isn't the root of the problem.

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>>219790646
You can usually make a good movie based on a good book but not vice versa unless it's Starship troopers. Which is why faithful adaptations are usually good.
You can make an unfaithful adaptation but a great movie if you're Tarkovsky with Solaris and Stalker but modern Hollywood directors are not Tarkovskys. Stanislaw Lem hated Tarkovsky's adaptation his novel and had a shouting match with him.

>>219790972
I already agreed with you mr bezos
why belabor the point?

>>219791715
God damn Shogun burned me good. I had to drop it after episode 7

I wish more writers were as principled as Stephenie Meyer when Hollywood adapts their books. Looking at you, GRRM and Sapkowski. Faithful adaptation under Meyer's control made Twilight the commercial juggernaut.
>One of the most problematic times Stephenie Meyer refused a change for the Twilight movies was by refusing to add non-white characters to the main cast. When the first Twilight adaptation was in production, the director, Catherine Hardwicke, wanted to diversify the Cullen family. Meyer did not agree with this change though, citing that in the books, the Cullens were described as having "pale, glistening skin." This conflict between Hardwicke and Meyer became one reason why Hardwicke did not return for New Moon or the following films, despite the first one's success.

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>>219791775
>Probably the only one who has the kind of fuck you money to hold fast to creative control is JK Rowling.

And yet Kirkman was a nobody comic book author who still somehow managed to retain control over his work.

>>219791850
>GRRM is an executive producer for GoT and HotD though

Strictly a honorary title, as he obviously has no say in what HBO does with his work.

>>219790815
The Dune TV series is pretty faithful to the book but is also almost unwatchable.

>>219791688
Warhammer40k is the great setting with almost non-existent wokeness which is why Rogue Trader is so good.

>>219792124
It's based on brianslop which is itself heretical and completely against everything Frank Herbert wrote and believed

>>219792104
then how did dunk turn out so well while hotd is floundering (with gurm shitting on it too)

>>219790646
it's really weird how people who have never read Lord of the Rings get really fucking angry over the Rings of Power "disrespecting the source material" because they think the source material is the Peter Jackson movies

like when people got really hysterically angry over an ork having a family in the show because "orks are made from mud, didn't you see it in the movies!!!!" when that was an idea Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh made up on their own and Tolkien himself said that orks reproduce like any other species in Middle Earth

>>219792104
>And yet Kirkman was a nobody comic book author who still somehow managed to retain control over his work.
Yeah one of the lucky 1%

>>219791037
Yeah but they don't hire fans
https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-studios-writers-comics-avoids

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>>219791892
Emperor protects.
>Cavill is reportedly "verifying Space Marine chapter armor color schemes, cross-checking Imperial iconography, and ensuring the correct pronunciation of notoriously dense High Gothic terms like Adeptus Astartes," showcasing the star's dedication to maintaining Warhammer 40K's grimdark setting.

>>219792226
Dunk is a low-stakes conventional good guy is heroic and epic and beats up the bad guys story. As long as it's made with passion and honesty, it's hard to fuck up.

House of the Dragon is a much more politically charged story, and it is written by hysterical liberal millennial women and their genX male enablers who saw Daenerys turning evil as like being forced to watch Hillary lose 2016 all over again. In their grief, they chose to write House of the Dragon as an apology fanfic, where all the women are virtuous, heroic mary sues and all the men are evil cowards who deserve to die, when the reason people liked game of thrones in the first place was the shades of gray and complex conflicts that had good and evil people on both sides. It comes across as preachy and juvenile

>>219791956
>Stanislaw Lem hated Tarkovsky's adaptation his novel and had a shouting match with him.
He's not wrong. None of the film adaptations hit on what makes the novel so chilling and resonant, namely the complete alienation of the individual and existential isolation.
But the book doesn't exactly lend itself to adaptation since a good quarter of the novel is the guy reading old exploration reports of solaris.

>>219791341
No movie can be faithful to the book, because the pacing and medium is different. LOTR was hated by the Tolkien Estate. The Shining was hated by Stephen King. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was hated by Roald Dahl.

>>219791892
The weirdest part was the attempted character assassination afterwards for having the gall to try to remain faithful to the source material.
>REEEEEE what a creepy misogynist incel weirdo

>>219790726
The problem is that I don't want to see a story made by some talentless DEI cunt who couldn't sell a project on their own merit, I want to see an adaptation of whatever it is being adapted.
The fuck is the point in buying the rights to adapt something and then completely change it to the point where it in no way resembles the story it's riding the coattails of?
The list of faithful adaptations is something you can barely count on one hand, and the times a director has improved on the original is even smaller.

>>219791643
Game of Thrones was faithful until the books turned to dogshit and then the author abandoned it entirely

>>219792080
>This conflict between Hardwicke and Meyer became one reason why Hardwicke did not return
that's crazy how it's such an obsession for these people

>>219792363
I dunno about heroic man
rhaenys kills a bunch of small folk, alicent misunderstands viserys and sets the dance off, rhaenyra kisses mysaria for ??? what reason
daemon wastes all of s2 at harrenhal (even if I liked alys drugging him for shits & giggles)
but it is written in a very juvenile way, i'll give you that

>>219792226
Herbert is a better and way more creative writer than Gurm(The Anarchy in England but with dragons) and Villeneuve is a better director than Condal and Sapochnik.

>>219791592
Cutting things to save time in order to make a movie with a reasonable runtime is different from completely altering the story and characters because you don't want to adapt the source material and would prefer to tell your own story.

>>219791311
>>219791533
Christopher Tolkien was also a hypocritical bitch who:
1. Removed the Dagor Dagorach from the Silmarillion, even though his own father put it there, and he did it because it cemented the fact that Arda is not Ancient Earth.
2. Admitted to writing in his own parts into the Silmarillion and then refusing to point out which parts exactly.

>>219792226
>then how did dunk turn out so well
They always do one good season to draw people in.

>>219792634
>rhaenys kills a bunch of small folk
Not portrayed as an evil act, two episodes later Rhaenys is talking about how these evil men are bloodthirsty and start wars. In the words of Sara Hess "it's game of thrones, civillians don't count"

>alicentt misunderstands viserys and sets the dance off
A misunderstanding, because poor widdle women aren't responsible for their actions, and her entire arc in season 2 is learning that she was wrong and that the most heroic thing she can do to atone is to let Rhaenyra murder her children

>daemon wastes all of s2 at harrenhal
Yeah, because he needs to learn how to LISTEN and RESPECT women

>>219791280
>GRRM clearly didn't give a fuck and took the money and ran, letting HBO do whatever they wanted with his work

On the contrary my friend. GFFM is now seething like a motherfucker about House of Dragons, but observant readers may notice that there was no such seethe about Game of Thrones. Because it were his storylines.

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>>219792811
It's interesting that while GRRM had some criticisms of late-stage Game of Thrones, he kept them mostly professional and was full cognizant that it was his own damn fault for not finishing the books and he never personally criticized dave and dan

He's gone fucking NUCLEAR on Ryan Condal and House of the Dragon, though, pretty much outright calling Condal a hack who has no idea what he's doing

>>219792552
I imagine it's because studios are too risk averse these days. That's why we only get sequel movies and endless reboots. All these writers who wanna do their own shows never get the opportunity to do so. So they simply take on work for anything they can get and then twist it into something they would rather do. Doesn't mean that I like it but it's the studios fault for only wanting to do safe shit.

>>219792603
>that's crazy how it's such an obsession for these people
The wokes see faithful adaptations and a refusal to make a single family or an isolated village multiracial as racism.

>>219790815
Then just read the book, loser

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>the last of us was a game pretending to be a tv show
>the last of us tv show was pretending to be a game that was pretending to be a tv show
>but they changed the characters and story for the worse

>halo tv show was ass
>fallout tv show was ass
>resident evil tv show was a mistake

i know hollywood is trying to destroy western culture but come on

>>219792659
>Admitted to writing in his own parts into the Silmarillion and then refusing to point out which parts exactly.
This is why only the LOTR and Hobbit are written by Tolkien.

>>219792226
HOTD has about 25 million viewers an episode, Dunk had half of that, reddit is not real life.

>>219790858
>is to be faithful to the source material

You can’t even define what that means.

>>219790998
Fanboys would make the worst people to adapt anything because they obsess over stupid shit and don’t care about how it would work for the movie/show because it has to he exactly the same just because

>>219792979
What does that have to do with quality dipshit?

>>219791280
>which for example gave him the power to force AMC to shitcan the original showrunner when he wanted to drastically change the story.
and then replace the show runner 4 more t imes after that? the first guy gave us kino.

>>219792952
Nice troll. Expedition 33 is a French game.

>>219791517
The book made major cuts to characters that fleshed out the world, Corleone influenced and the significance of Godfather to people and Michael feels almost like a small side character in the book until the very end where as in the movie he feels important all the way through

>>219792884
Bullshit, he was saying s8 was his right up until the backlash became undeniable in e4, then immediately started trying to imply he had nothing to do with it.
He still engages in this bitch behaviour, even for Dunk he was quick to distance himself from the cut to shitting bit when it got even mild criticism.

>>219792552
>I don't want to see a story made by some talentless DEI cunt

But you’re entirely happy for a talentless white guy to do it

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>>219793052
the west is burgerstan, please don't confuse the rest of the world with those golems

>>219790646
Let the authors write the screenplays.

>>219792891
I would argue that it's much riskier to have some literal who overwrite a beloved IP with their own generic dogshit than it is to do a straight adaptation of it.

>>219793107
>then immediately started trying to imply he had nothing to do with it.

And you know this is a fucking horseshit because if he meant it, he would be sperging out to this day.
He was always a dishonest, narcissistic dipshit.

>>219793009
Knight was shit too, you only like it bc gurm told you to

>>219793185
Authors can’t always write screenplays or when they do it’s an inferior version. In some cases they even deliberately change things for the movie

>>219790646
Andrzej Sapkowski literally shilled all the blackwashing and Woke changes the show made at the beginning. He only changed his mind when the tide changed.

Fuck him.

>>219793164
Faggots also come under the blanket of DEI.
Also yes, browns have zero natural creativity and their culture was often a creation of the CIA.

>>219793164
Yes, because then it can stand or fall on its own merrit. They just gave Oscar to 3/10 capeshit about nigger vampires double featuring one of the biggest hacks in Hollywood.

>>219790726
ok but the reason it is BAD is because they arent being faithful to the source material mouth breather. They license it for a reason, because it was GOOD. So good in fact it build a huge fan base. They rape the source material to make it blacker and gayer. How the fuck could that ever be good? Sit down and stfu

>>219791550
stfu retarded gay faggot

>>219792891
>So they simply take on work for anything they can get and then twist it into something they would rather do

This is such fucking horseshit. The studios make all kinds of horrible demands all the time. A screen writer has zero control over their script and can’t just do whatever they want unless the studio only cares about the title

>>219791775
>99% of creators always cave in and enjoy the pay out
They probably also have non-disparagement clauses in the contracts they sign as well.

>>219793248
>Still seething about Sinners winning

LMAAAAAOOOOOO

>>219792080
Based Stephenie Meyer

>>219792387
>No movie can be faithful to the book
A scanner darkly is damn near a page-for-page adaptation of the novel with only a few minor sections cut (like the dogshit on the engine).
The problem with adapting a novel is that you have to try and condense hundreds of pages of dense exposition, dialogue, and all the rest into a 90 page screenplay. You've just always got to be hacking apart and streamlining the story for practical purposes.
If you're adapting prose the best thing is either a short story, or novella. Assuming you give a shit about authenticity of the source material (you shouldn't, the source material is still there).

>>219792008
>falling for any modern day remake
Nope.

>>219793269
>but the reason it is BAD is because they arent being faithful to the source material

Not true at all. There’s countless cases where the movie makes changes for the better and if an adaptation is bad it’s not because they took liberties but because for whatever reason the movie doesn’t work.

>They license it for a reason, because it was GOO
They buy rights just to get a title they want to use or because something was a best seller or one specific producer or director liked something but then never could get it done so it ultimately gets passed from one person to the next until someone accidentally gets it made.


You fucks would hate Out of Sight and Jackie Brown if they came out today for stupid racist reasons despite them objectively being great movies

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>>219793232
Witcher and Szapkowski was always a funny case, because Witcher was always turbo-woke and the entire TV production is completely unnecessary friendly fire. What people generally consider to be Witcher is the first book of short stories and Witcher 3 videogame. What you see in the show is mostly what later books are about - women rule the world, men are easily manipulated dimwits, warrior queens charge into battle, Ciri has her lesbian adventure, and Geralt is mostly missing from the story.
Only reason why there are no raceswaps is because Szapkowski didn't think of it himsrlf back in 90s, otherwise he would 100% do it. Instead we have muscular female garrison guards eating beans, farting, telling bad jokes and sexually harassing nervous Geralt in the last book.

>>219793317
NTA but in a few years you libtards will be pretending like you never liked it that much, just like Black Panther and Crash.

>>219792080
>Giving a resound NO to race swapping your characters with nigs.
/respect

>>219791517
>>219793185
>Francis Ford Coppola insisted on the film being called "Mario Puzo's The Godfather" rather than just "The Godfather", because his original draft of the screenplay was so faithful to the novel, he thought Puzo deserved the credit for it.

I still can't believe how badly they messed up the Witcher. All they had to do was adapt the books faithfully. If there was any controversy, just point to the author. I think at the time it debuted people were receptive to another GoT style fantasy show and it could have become a huge hit, but Netflix decided to hand the reigns over to a bunch of menopausal women who thought armies dressed in penis and testicle armour and inexplicable niggers everywhere were good additions to the franchise.

>>219793317
>3/10 capeshit is worth Academy Award because it features blacks

Your kind dragged entire art form into mud.

>>219793426
>There’s countless cases where the movie makes changes for the better
Citation needed.

>>219793466
What's wrong with that? What's important now is that we support those films for the messages it contains. Entertainment is secondary when it comes to issues that need to be addressed. Actually liking it and disliking it is irrelevant for the time being, as they'll be graded objectively (not important) until later.

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>>219792226
They've already race swapped a main char in S2 with some random nogger, so S2 is going to be woke as fuck.

>>219793173
Europe is western. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>219793426
>t, black and gay

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>>219792080
And you know that leftard was twisting herself into pretzels with seethe even though there IS a black vampire in the story, a prominent one.

>>219793566
>what matters in life is slavishly following fashionable trends to virtue signal
Kind of crazy to just straight up admit to being an NPC like this

>>219792603
It is unironically the ONLY thing these people really care about.

>>219790726
Kill yourself, kike

>>219793516
Virtually all of IMBd's top 10 movies are adaptations that deviated significantly from he source material and are far more critically and commercially successful.

>>219793497
>still can't believe how badly they messed up the Witcher
They really didn't, see >>219793450
Only thing they had to do was cast Witches accurately and then wait until plot moves into Nilfgaardian invasion, then it would be unrecognisable from the books. Reminder that Geralt died during random race riot.

>>219793052
France is spiritually Japanese.

>>219792943
Nothing wrong with having the book and an accurate movie, fag

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>>219793566
>Entertainment is secondary when it comes to issues that need to be addressed
This is true, which is why I always fully supported Chernobyl, because it demonstrate how socialism can cause damage so severe that capitalists have to damage control for it for centuries to come.

>>219793751
I've seen Paris and France is spiritually Moroccan.

why make an adaption if you're not going to actually use the material you've acquired?

>>219793853
Reskinning shit scripts into a proven franchise

>>219792659
> it cemented the fact that Arda is not Ancient Earth.
source : my ass
Tolkien definitively and clearly planned it to be the past of our own world

>>219793934
>Tolkien definitively and clearly planned it to be the past of our own world

He started out with that idea, yes, but over time decided on it being an alternative Earth. The Dagor Dagorach is the final proof of that, since Morgoth's return and the final war includes Arda's complete destruction.

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>>219793727
The books, and the games for that matter, where woke alright, but they were trying to make the woke palatable to white men. Like, women are your betters, but they're super hot and your self insert character gets to fuck them, that kind of thing. That's why it's still enjoyable to consume, even if a keener spirit sniffs out the propaganda. The show doesn't try to be attractive to white men at all, it's just in your face not for them.

>>219790952
>with something to say
Since you value literal who's with something to say - I have something to say to you:
Kill yourself.

>>219793705
See.
>>219793486

>>219790646
I feel like its more like A Two Headed Cerberus. Gen X wants to write what they want to see and takes these adaptations and does whatever stupid bullshit they like and the DEI is Millennial. They are usually a writing team of one 55 year old and a bunch of 38 year olds. So while people call it Millennial Writing for a good reason a lot of Gen X ideas are in each of these shows too.

Millennial writing is just catchier than Gen X Writing though it just is sorry.

>>219790779
Seriously, you really can't complain about diversity in the show its a pretty weird game.

>>21979104
Die Hard doesn't belong on that list. They changed names and everything and did not use the book at all to advertise or draw interest in the movie.

>>219794000
>The show doesn't try to be attractive to white men at all, it's just in your face not for them.
That's why I said it was completely unnecessary fail, if they just stuck with minor details. People would still bitch but they would be able to use cover of books for their work. S4 was shockingly accurate to books.

How is this "increasing"? King bitched about Kubrick's Shining. Clive Barker got so buttmad at Hollywood's butchering of his early work he produced "Hellraiser" himself, even though he couldn't much afford it. The list could go on and on.

>>219794000
Triss and Shani are sweet in the books. Sapkowski is an old-school 90s liberal and his books are not woke.
Feminists hate Sapkowski's books.
>The thing is, though, that The Last Wish isn’t good. It has some enjoyable and interesting moments, but it drags impossibly in others. The book is also rampantly, painfully sexist—I went in expecting a fair amount and was still floored by it. Rape is so commonplace and treated so cavalierly it becomes the festive tapestry on The Last Wish’s dull, slightly moist castle wall, and if it weren’t for the occasional modern turn-of-phrase or curse word, I might have thought the books were written in the 1950s, when in fact The Last Wish was originally published in Poland in 1993.

>>219792104
In GoT, Martin directed some of those episodes himself. He was deeply involved in all the decisions until about season 5 when the books ran out, leaving Dumb & Dumber to wing it.

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>>219793814
>it demonstrate how socialism can cause damage so severe that capitalists have to damage control for it for centuries to come.
I didn't know Japan was socialist/communist, /tv/ is so knowledgable.

>>219794212
>I might have thought the books were written in the 1950s, when in fact The Last Wish was originally published in Poland in 1993.
>1950s
>BITCH WE WERE UNDER SOVIET OCCUPATION RIGHT AFTER THE FUCKING WORLD WAR

>>219792226
Season One kicked ass imo its S2 it really lost its way. From what I understand trying to not be spoiled, S3 could be an epic war story and I am still looking forward to it.

>>219790646
>"Unfaithful"

Adaptation does not mean recreation; it literally means changing it to fit a new medium or audience. Grow up and deal with it, or stop selling your stories to be ADAPTED, you big ol dummies.

>>219794212
>When wanting to have a child is the driving force in a womans life
Feminist must be absolutely seething.

>>219793975
It's pointless to say that Tolkien "decided" anything because the Silmarillion is unfinished and it's simply impossible to know what parts of it he would've kept around if he was ever going to publish it.

Dagor Dagorach being canon or not is completely irrelevant, just take it as it is, a thing that Tolkien at some point thought about.

>>219792982
Your eyeballs should be slowly pulled out of your body on barbed hooks via your anus while acid is repeatedly injected under patches of your skin all over your body. That would be the punishment for being a disingenuous faggot in a just world.

>>219790646
Why would anybody watch an adaption? If I want to engage with The Witcher or God of War, I'll play the video games. If I want to experience LOTR, I'll read my books. We know the entertainment industry is incapable of producing quality adaptions due to activist writers and DEI. The fact people STILL get their hopes up expecting a quality adaption illustrates how stupid TV watchers are. Simply switch off your television sets and let the industry whither and die.

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Somehow Spielberg managed to make two movies that are better than the source material: Jaws and Jurassic Park.

I completely understand that sometimes an adaptation needs to scale down on what's happening in the actual book because money isn't infinite and writing is cheaper than directing. But I also know that 99% of the time the problems with adaptations have absolutely nothing to do with decisions taken to stay on the budget and everything to do with streamlining and repackaging something for greater mass appeal

For example, I'm not a big fan of the Boys, but I still think the last arc of it is excellent and one of the best finale Ennis has written, not this horseshit they're cooking up.

>>219794590
>Why would anybody watch an adaption?
They need a visual adaptation because they can't even conjure up a 3D apple in their mind.

>>219794256
No he didn't you stupid cunt. He was doing little more than sitting on casting calls for the hot girls and writing scripts that got totally rewritten.

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>>219793814
A real-life Soviet minister of a coal industry.
You probably believe that Ulana Khomyuk is real, she saved Europe from a thermonuclear explosion and she lectured Legasov, a member of the Academy of Sciences
>Shchadov began his career at 15, working in a mine in Cheremkhovo as a site manager.[3] Then, he became the chief engineer and head of a mine.[3] Next, he was named the manager of a trust, Mamslyuda, in 1961, which he held until 1963.[3] From 1966, he worked at the Vostsibugol plant as deputy head and then head of the plant.[3] He was made the general director of the Vostsibugol Production Association.[3] In 1977, he was appointed deputy minister of the coal industry, and in 1981 first deputy minister.[3] He was named the coal industry minister on 15 December 1985, replacing Boris F. Bratchenko in the post.[4][5] Shchadov served in the cabinet led by Nikolai Ryzhkov.[6]

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>>219794301
>socialism is comparable to a cataclysmic earthquake of 11 points on Richter scale

I fully agree, anon. Wait, not entirely, because Japanese actually got it under control, while socialists are nowhere to be seen to fix Chernobyl, leaving it up to greedy capitalists to maintain the sarcophagus.

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>>219790726
Use logic, retard.

The reason something is even up for being adapted to TV or film in the first place is probably because it's PRETTY GOOD which means you should probably remain faithful to the good thing, instead of subverting the expectations of the fanbase which makes you have to paddle upstream. Your changes better be fucking brilliant or you'll get roasted alive for it.

It's retarded. Faithful adaptations are absolutely how it should be done.

>>219794502
>At some point
He wrote and rewrote and expanded upon it up until his death, it wasn't some fleeting idea.

On contrary it was the "it's ancient Earth" idea that was a throwaway line during a random interview, he never put much thought into it.

>>219795056
What about the Red Book of Westmarch ? What about the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Ages?

>>219794430
its actually insane how in the show they made yen losing her ability to have kids in order to become a beautiful girlboss is shown in this empowering montage that was her choice then 1 episode later shes seething about it like she was wronged and lied to. like it goes against the show writer's goals to display her as this petulant child who instantly regrets her decisions but blames others for it

>>219795129
>What about the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Ages?
90% of everything said on that topic was in said interview.

As to the "Red Book", it's just in the 1st Edition's introduction that Tolkien states he got a copy in Westron that he himself translated into English.

Again, those were just floating ideas, while the Dagor Dagorach was something he worked on throughout the years.

>>219794896
Goddamn Japanese socialists.
>The earthquake and tsunami of March 11, 2011 were natural disasters of a magnitude that shocked the entire world. Although triggered by these cataclysmic events, the subsequent accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant cannot be regarded as a natural disaster. It was a profoundly manmade disaster - that could and should have been foreseen and prevented...

>Our report catalogues a multitude of errors and wilful negligence that left the Fukushima plant unprepared for the events of March 11. And it examines serious deficiencies in the response to the accident by Tepco, regulators and the government.

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>>219793486
Have you actually read the Godfather book? It is slop.

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>>219790726
Fucking faggot cocksucker.

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>>219795224
>>Our report catalogues a multitude of errors and wilful negligence that left the Fukushima plant unprepared for cataclysmic earthquake
>Chernobyl power plant was unprepared for socialism

>>219795388
>Capitalism built a nuclear plant in the seismic hazard zone.
>WTF a catastrophic earthquake happened and capitalism didn't prepare for the catastrophic earthquake.
>Damn socialism.

I wonder if some of the opinions here on the Witcher books are due to a poor translation into English, after all they were quickly done to ride the hype train of the games, or anon just being stupid or perhaps not even reading the books, just scommed through plot on Wiki.

For me, being woke is about being didactic, which the books definitely aren't. Yes, it deals with issues like racism, but in a very cynical way. Remember, the villain is the diverse multicultural empire and it is the free kingdoms were pogroms and race riots happened

>>219791062
Mary Mary quite contrary

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>>219791040
Forrest Gump book has a part where he, some woman and an ape go to space and crash on cannibal island, where cannibals force them to farm cotton and cannibal chief, who studied in England, likes chess, but Forrest always wins so he decides not to eat them until he wins. Then after harvest when Forrest and friends are about to sail away to sell cotton and never come back he gets distracted and loses and they get chased by all the cannibals who want to eat them now.
I read it when I was 10 and it was pure kino. Was sad that it wasn't in the movie.

>>219794612
Jaws, yes. Actually a strange book that has little to do with the actual shark that I can remember. It was more about the drama between brody and his wife and she slept with hooper.

>Jurassic Park
Extremely retarded take. No movie adaption will EVER be anywhere as near as Chrichtons books. He was one of the best selling authors of all time for a reason. His books are highly technical and detailed about advanced science topics so I imagine people who are low IQ would like a movie more

>>219794612
btw 2010 was a much better movie than the book imo. The book was good but it wouldnt really make a very good movie I dont think. The movie have almost nothing to do with the book

>>219794503
you don't really think that. GUYS GET THE HOOKS WE GOT A LIVE ONE

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>>219795487
>socialism built a nuclear plant far away from any seismic hazard zone
>it breaks anyway because socialists are retarded

>>219791679
>What isn't, really.
they did a tv mini-series of the Stand that wasnt better than the book

>>219791715
??
I liked the series

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And what of good Shrek?

>>219790726
Nu-Dune fucking sucks, zoomies.

>>219791311
As bad as that was it saved an even worse adaptation from being made later.

>>219792080
>make some of the family members niggers
These people are fucking retards.

Fight Club is a better movie than book but all I remember from reading it 25 years ago is he kills his boss.

>>219793185
Probably violates the incestuous hollywood union cartel fuckery.

>>219791040
Forrest Gump and The Short-Timers both had bizarre sequels.

>>219796309
I've never read the book. Is that real?

>>219790646
As long as they keep licensing out their IP to Amazon without any kind of creative control clause in the contract, they have only themselves to blame.
>but Amazon wouldn't agree to that kind of contract
Would they not, or is it just a case of creators being too afraid to ask? I'm sure some Amazon exec might notice the bad PR the adaptations keep getting and realizing putting some 40 year old ultra left cat lady in charge of the shows isn't yielding great results. I suspect it's more likely the cucked creators are afraid of openly admitting to themselves that the far leftist crap is ruining their material, probably because they themselves are moderately leftist and admitting that the more extreme version of themselves is toxic would be admitting that their whole ideology isn't great. So they hmm and haw and make vague noises about how the adaptation was poor but don't really look the problem square in the face.

And because they refuse to acknowledge the problem to themselves, they don't demand creative control in their contract, something that lets them override creative decisions from the studio and/or demand that any particular staff be replaced at their discretion (so that they can boot the 40 year old cat lady). Because if there's no problem with their show getting pozzed, why would they need some kind of clause like that?

>>219793185
Crichton wrote the screenplays for Jurassic Park and Rising Sun. Also Twister which was kind of a surprise.

>>219794212
Last Wish is the best part of the Witcher. They even devoted an episode to it but managed to leave out the last wish; which was the witcher doing an exorcism and then later finding out he wished for the genie to go fuck itself.

>>219794852
Yeah tbqh if anything they were far too charitable towards him in the show.
Show version:
>ordinary government minister in a humble suit, straightforward and honest about the fact that shit's gonna kill half the continent if it isn't under control
Real-life person:
>self-aggrandizing faggot decked out in made-up medals, as is tradition in corrupt autocratic shithole countries
No matter how much you seethe about western "propaganda" portraying the USSR negatively, the real USSR is always worse.

>>219794590
Both of those games are adaptations.

>>219790726
This is correct.
For example, Kubrick's The Shining is the definitive version.

Autists whining about stuff they like being adapted will never stop being pathetic, especially when you can just go back to the original if you don't like the new version.

>>219790726
>Blade Runner
>Jurassic Park
>The Shining
>Starship Troopers
Off the top of my head, these are all the examples of adaptations that made massive changes to the source material, but still turned out good. Good movies, but they're nothing compared to the ocean of terrible fucking adaptations.
The rule of thumb should be to try and please fans of the source material, since they're your built-in audience. Pissing them off means an uphill battle trying to find an audience. Look at Sonic, they're about to make the fourth movie in that franchise by just adding fanservice dweebs can fangasm over.
What I'm saying is if you tell fans to fuck off and change the source material to fit "muh vision", you better make fucking sure you're a Kubrick-level director first.

>>219791040
Full Metal Jacket was a composite of two wildly different stories fused together and each side was surprisingly faithful

>>219791311
Christopher also hated film as a medium.

>>219793934
>Tolkien definitively and clearly planned it to be the past of our own world
>source: your ass

>>219792226
The final episode of S1 was full of retarded changes for no reason. S2's going to be a disaster.

Ain't none of you gigaretards ever read a goddamn book in your worthless lives wheel of time is horrible it never ends and then the guy died and the other one finishes it I've been reading this shit for over a year I'll never be free

>>219799426
You're not supposed to marathon that shit. Give yourself a break between books.