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how do we save Bond?
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>>219809348
To the rescue
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>>219809348
why does everything have to be saved
why can't we just let a franchise die. are we so creatively bankrupt that we can't make anything new and have to rely on raping a dead corpse of a series
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>>219809374
Yes
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>>219809374
Bond is the original MCU. Cool fun insignificant forgettable films every couple of years. It's not a franchise with a direction. Cool Bond, action, scenic foreign countries and hot chicks. If it has a good villain all the better. Speaking of scenic countries, as a Turk, the contrast between the Turkey scenes in From Russia with Love and Skyfall are striking to me. Even the shade is different. In the former Istanbul is depicted in all its majesty, a civilised country with a sound footing. In the latter it looks like a chaotic hellhole with a yellow tint. Can't blame the producers, the country is a mess.
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>>219809348
>we

best we can do to save it is not watch any of the slop kikes will make
other than that, its out of our hands, we are not the ones writing and producing it
all we can do is make sure to not be the ones consuming as well
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We don't
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>>219809373
I would unironically support this, purely from a fascination of how xhe would play the role.
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>>219809348
"We" aren't going to save anything.

Or do you mean, how would Bond be saved, if people with the power to save him wanted to save him? Very simply.

Bond is crap now for one basic reason: the idea of proper relations between the sexes.

Ian Fleming wrote books in which men were masculine or despised and women were feminine or despised. Bossy feminist viragos didn't exist, or if they did, they had no institutional power and were treated as the obnoxious freaks they are. (Rosa Klebb in From Russia With Love has institutional power, but she isn't a feminist. Also she's portrayed as a monster in a monstrous system.)

In a world where snarky women boss men around and get the witty last line in any argument and this is seen as A Good Thing, 007 will always be pathetic. He will be a figure of fun however much the film tries to pretend he's the hero.

This change isn't sudden; they've been pushing it little by little since at least the Roger Moore era. It just got a lot worse in the last few films. (Pierce Brosnan tried to walk the tightrope and maintain some self-respect; Daniel Craig went full on and embraced the humiliation.)


Feminists love to talk about "strong women". When they say this, without exception, they mean aggressive, abrasive women. Women who are trying to be men, and end up with all the worst aspects of masculinity but none of the masculine virtues.

If you got rid of this crap, Bond would work again. He can survive the technological changes since the 1960s. He can survive the geopolitical changes. He can survive the disappearance of the English class system as Fleming knew it.

He can't survive sitting on the back of a scooter being ridden by a sassy black woman.
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>>219809589
Lol same
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>>219809461
The difference between Bond and the MCU is that Bond movies were able to adapt over time. You go from the 60s Connery classic spy stories to the over the top silliness of Moore to the 80s cheese of Dalton to the 90s action-fests of Brosnan. Even Craig has two distinct phases, the 2000s post-9/11 misery followed by the 2010s cinematic universe phase where everything must be interconnected even if it makes no sense. If any franchise can reinvent itself again, it is Bond.
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bring back Brosnan
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>>219809348
>Indian bond
INSTANT KINO
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>>219809348
Dalton is incredibly overrated. I will make a thread about this subject at a later date.
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>>219809656
Lol truly architectural
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>>219809348
You can't save the franchise. The movie industry is awash with activist writers. Bond is a white British man. It means the character must be diluted and humiliated. Anyway, the Bond films are only good from Dr. No (1962) to GoldenEye (1995). Everything after '95 is crap. I don't need anymore additional Bond films because I'm fine the 18 movies that I enjoy. I hope the franchise withers and dies.
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James Bond ended with Die Another Day and it will NEVER come back
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we just had the best era of Bond, there is nothing to save
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>>219809348
Sometimes the best way to save things is to discontinue them and keep them in good memory.
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>>219809605
>He can't survive sitting on the back of a scooter being ridden by a sassy black woman.
This. Also franchise has outlived the culture it was born in.
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>>219809589
yeah might as well accelerate and burn it all down so we can do a hard reset
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>>219809656
>bring back Brosnan
Amazon is agreeing with you. First Light theme sounds like it's from the Brosnan era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA82c4YkAZ4
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>>219810347
On the other hand

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread
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>>219809374
Because they won't let it die, Amazon will rape it for all eternity
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>>219809656
Burgers are forever is clearly Connery
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>>219809374
because Bond is one of the pillars of our culture
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>>219810347
>good memory.
Ruined by the Craig era.
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>>219809348
If you think good Bond movies will still be made in 2016 + 10 you’re fucking delusional. LET IT DIE
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>>219809633
Bond is also much more repetitive than the MCU: film begins with Bond going to M's office, cue flirty repartee with Moneypenny, then onto M who gives Bond a dressing down for some recent infraction before the mission briefing. Scene with Q, new gadgets and the car of the year are introduced. Bond playfully annoys Q in the lab. The main villain has a gimmick, his henchman also has a gimmick and a colourful nickname. Two Bond girls, one good, one bad, possibly both get fucked by Bond, but the bad one dies. Hard reset when the film is over, each film has to be standalone (and no, a passing reference or "It was me James" are not real continuity).

The MCU could also be somewhat repetitive, because every hero got his own fucking origin film and those were all cooked to the same formula. But there was a clear continuity that built towards to climactic event movies (Avengers) and finally a big showdown with purple man, which I imagine was very exciting for the kids and soijaks who loved that stuff.
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>>219811810
Bond has a formula, sure, but only a liar or an idiot would say that Goldfinder, GoldenEye, and Casino Royale were repetitive. Meanwhile every MCU movie has the same style, even if the plotlines are technically different.
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Let it die desu
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>>219809348
Literally just do the formula which of itself already is an act of defiance
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>>219809656
fucking Kek
>The Man with the Golden Arches
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>>219812029
It would indeed be weird and interesting to do it absolutely straight and non-PC.

— Bond smacks random bimbo on the behind as she walks away a la Goldfinger
— Camp pair of homosexual villains (Wint & Kidd junior)
— Bond Girl is played by Sydney Sweeney

Everyone would be waiting for the subversion, the in-universe rebuke, the script-flip, etc . . . and gradually it becomes apparent those ain't happening.

Critics desperately start arguing about how it's a Verhoven-esque self-parody etc. Everyone involved just smiles and says nothing.
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>>219809348
facts about amazon bond
>broccoli confirmed the aaron taylor jew made up the whole rumor himself. he was never considered for bond
>amazon wants a young actor for bond. they don't want a granny fucker like aaron the jew
>bezos personally said he doesn't want "a fucking jew as bond"
>timothy dalton is still considered to be the greatest james bond

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