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How did these dickheads achieve space travel?
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>>219815325
>It’s like how people believe in Helen Keller. Anyone whose thought about it for 5 minutes knows it’s bullshit
Poe's law moment. Just in case you're not joking, you can easily go read her writings and watch videos of her. Everything about her is extremely well documented as well.
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>>219815447
>poes law moment
The irony. I actually have read it, have you? Because if you have and you believe it, you might be retarded. Go read the accounts yourself, but this time imagine trying to do it. From both her perspective and the teachers. Consider actually trying to not just communicate but to teach and(essentially) invent a language with no visual or auditory cues. Every step that’s described, think to yourself, would this actually work? Imagine Helen learning to actually speak, actually THINK about it, how is that actually possible. Her/their description of it doesn’t actually make sense. Even just deaf people sound retarded because they don’t have the auditory feedback. She has no real time feedback at all. In other words she has no way to know what is coming out of her mouth, if it’s correct or jibberish. And yes I know obviously “they” have explained all this. But if you think about it none of it makes any actual sense. IF it’s actually possible it woild take more like 1000 years. It’s like how everyone believed chimps and gorillas were learning sign language, but then when it was looked into it turns out it was fake and gay. I don’t know what scam exactly Helen and/or her handlers were running. I just know it didn’t go down the way they say it did
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>>219815099
It could translate the words, but it couldn't translate the actual meaning so it wasn't working with the language properly. It's a more fancy version of how when translating a language like Japanese into English that it won't always capture what it's actually saying and can sometimes spit out gibberish.
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>>219816416
Most people aren’t mentally equipped to actually evaluate her situation. For example in the famous movie about her, the way she is shown to learn language is her handler writes “water” in her hand with water pouring on her. Helen says “water”. Most people take that at face value, but that’s absurd(and made up for the movie). She’s never heard language, and even if she had, wouldn’t know how to replicate it. It’s literally impossible for that to have happened, and yet the average person saw no issue with it. If you actually sit down and imagine what it would be like to be deaf and blind, and what it would take to be the teacher of someone in that state, the entire story is very clearly bullshit. I’ll again use my other example, literally everyone thought apes learned sign language, multiple governments spent many millions on it for decades. Dozens of academic papers were written and published. It was all bullshit, they made it up. Helen Keller is MUCH less likely than apes learning sign language, by a huge margin.
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>>219816620
Ok so now we ask ourselves, what’s the scam? The easiest explanation is it’s the same as the monkey situation, the interpreter is just speaking for her. Easy to see how it could happen, she really wants it to work, over time she even believes it herself, but Helen’s voice is just her own. No one can really question it. A few problems with this, first there’s footage and first hand accounts of Helen “speaking” if you can call it that. It’s pretty limited, and it’s possible it’s all she learned, is just vaguely English sounding jibberish. Also, it seems like “Helen” wrote material without the teacher/interpreter later on in life. Maybe these works were actually written with the teacher but misatributed to later works, or maybe a new interpreter got in on the scam. Regardless, despite the problems I still think the interpreter theory is very possible. The other main theory would be that Helen is not as disabled as advertised. If she could even partly hear or see, everything makes sense. Just a little fib, and her story becomes quite believable. I don’t know why, but I don’t think this is it, even though it’s quite plausible. Lastly, a 3rd scam that no one has thought of. My money is actually on this, it’s a gut feeling really. Just the way so many details don’t add up, but not in a way that points clearly to the first or second hypothesis. Sadly we may never know exactly what scam those 2 crooks played on the rest of us.
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>>219815661
>Even just deaf people sound retarded because they don’t have the auditory feedback.
She also sounds retarded. You can only barely understand what she says in this clip and that's if you listen very closely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ch_H8pt9M8
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>>219817423
However I freely admit the “speaking” she does is probably the biggest part of Hellen scammer I can’t completely figure out. But scams this pervasive are never just obvious scams or they would have been instantly exposed. My posts above offer some theories on the speaking and other things. I also admit I just may not know how they are doing it. I also don’t know how David copperfield does all his tricks though. Doesn’t mean he has super powers.
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>>219817423
The speech is not really the breaking point. Once you have learned alphabets that allow you to communicate complex thoughts to and from other people it's at least plausible that with enough dedication you can learn to (very poorly) articulate some rehearsed sentences through trial and error.
The tough part is learning a tactile alphabet from nothing and then map that onto an existing alphabet like braille. Teaching words for physical words shouldn't be hard but any other concept would be very hard to convey to someone with no language.
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>>219817347
The most egregious is obviously their “hand language” it’s just fucking laughable. This is like on NCIS where the 2 agents type on a keyboard at the same time and it’s just jibberish. It doesn’t pass the eye test, but it’s when they get a close up and slow it down a little you really see how fake and gay it is. Hellen is missing most of the information from the signs. Keep in mind this is their custom built sign language, and they apparently made it so Helen is not receiving the lions share of it? Look at the actual points of contact on Helen’s hand, compared to the information trying to be conveyed with the signs. A real language purpose built for this would entirely be about the points of contact received on Helen’s hand, it would look entirely different. THIS looks like a derivation of ASL, made to be SEEN, if someone was trying to tell a story on a camera about how it’s really for this deaf and blind chick and no one thought too hard about it. Seriously watch the video again, slow it down. It’s a fucking lie, it’s a scam