Damn. If reddit likes it, it's gotta be shit.

>>219818062
This. I hate reddit!

>>219817955
They're not great adaptations from a character perspective.

>>219818062
this desu

>>219817955
I never liked the art direction. Always felt cheap. Only great bits are the opening of Fellowship, Elf scenes, and the Witch King armoring up.

>>219818082
>They're not great adaptations from a character perspective.
They're usually improvements from a character perspective

>>219818082
Fellowship of the Ring is literally the greatest achievement in all of adapted screenplay writing.
The movie needs to teach a braindead audience the history and geography of the world, introduce a half dozen fantasy races, introduce 20+ characters with different backstories and relationships, introduce tons of named locations, establish the magical rules of the world, etc - and it manages to do all that so effortlessly the audience doesn't even realize it's happened.
What the movie accomplishes in a few short scenes took Tolkien dozens of pages to accomplish.

>>219818173
Give one (1) example.

>>219817955
LOTR was always normieslop for me. The movies had great marketing and everyone and their grandmas have watched this goyslop. Ask anybody about Lotr, the answer is always the same "omg god it's the best movie ever! So profound! It's literal art! I love dragons and medieval fantasy!" Meanwhile hardcore kino enjoyers never watched this except to understand the memes

>>219818189
Fellowship is the best movie. ROTK is the worst.

>>219817955
>4chan says reddit loving Project Hail Mary means it is a shitty movie
>4chan says reddit loving LOTR and 4chan loving LOTR means its a good movie
???????

>>219818082
People will hate but youre not wrong

They cut major portions of the book out and then add in other stuff (like elves coming to Helms deep) for toy sales.

>>219818193
in the books Aragorn is the one who death marches the fellowship over the pass of Caradras and almost gets the hobbits killed, making him look like a retard and a terrible ranger
meanwhile Gandalf wants to go through the mines of moria since hes been there before, making him look like a retard too

>>219818231
They're beautiful and moving films at least.

>>219817955
lightning in a bottle desu

>>219818257
I dont disagree. They're good, have watched them many times and will continue to. But they are by no means flawless adaptations and no one should pretend that they are let alone that they improve on the source material

>>219818247
Why does that make them look like retards?

>>219818287
it makes far more sense for Aragorn to know that the pass is too dangerous for their party
in the books he even apologizes to the fellowship for being such a retard about it

>>219818285
I don't really know why Jackson thought he could make characters better than Tolkien. It wasn't that bad in Fellowship but it just gets worse and worse as the story goes on. The climax of the shitty writing is when Frodo tells Sam to go home.

>>219818193
not him but many characters get development they don't have in the books apart from maybe Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gimli and Legolas. Aragorn is an exile who comes to terms with his destiny to reclaim the throne, Arwen has to decide whether to stay or go and chooses mortality, Frodo struggles with the ring and is manipulated by Gollum, Faramir has the osgiliath arc and revelation of his brothers death etc

>>219818193
Aragorn and Boromir are both much better characters in the movies, particularly the relationship between them and the arc it takes

>>219818374
You know Arwen's story is in the book, right?

>>219818374
>Frod is manipulated by Gollum
Character assassination.

>>219817955
Personally, Legolas ruins these movies for me.

>>219818432
I'll give you Boromir. That's one character. Not a high batting average. And he wasn't changed as drastically as many other characters.

>>219818492
Why?

>>219818537
I feel the story diminished into slop cape-tier slop by his action antics.
Like him sliding through the stairs while shooting arrows in Helm's Deep.

>>219818576
I don't mind it. The characters and story are a much bigger deal.

>>219818576
The actual time this kind of stuff takes up in the movies is probably much smaller than you think

>>219818459
no it isn't, she's decided by the council of Elrond to stay with Aragorn and weaves a banner which she sends with the grey company. The appendices just says how she actualy does become miserable once Aragorn dies and lives in grief in Lothlorien for centuries.

>>219818481
not really it makes the ring seem more potent, it adds to the 'addiction' concept of the ring and it makes sense when he won't destroy the ring later whereas in the book it is out of nowhere really given how noble he is with no signs of addiction of obsession up to that point. The movies do make him more of a bitch though, but but it adds to the rings menace and kind of shows a different kind of heroism to everyone else who get to fight which is good.

>>219818757
>The appendices just says how she actualy does become miserable once Aragorn dies and lives in grief in Lothlorien for centuries.
No, she dies peacefully after like a year. Did you even read the appendix? It's like three pages lol.

>>219817955
They are very good, sometimes excellent. But a lot of the admiration/nostalgy comes from the fact that these were the last AAA white man movies. There won't be any more. Ever.

>>219818757
>The appendices just says how she actualy does become miserable once Aragorn dies and lives in grief in Lothlorien for centuries.
Arwen died one year after Aragorn's death. Try reading the books.

>>219817955
Capeshit for christlarpers.

>2nd movie has a wilhelm scream
>3rd movie has TWO wilhlem screams
>dwarf character exists only to spout jokes and quips

I liked fellowship. the other 2 were ruined by the wilhelm screams to me

>>219820331
Fellowship is the worst one. Too much frodo

>>219818062
>>219817955
We only like fellowship.

>>219820365
>Fellowship is the worst one
Retard.