>>4557532 >>4557533 They were talking literally about David bowie in past sense they all lover they won´t hide something so important more likely Nechika is on Haruka situation of been always boyish
>>4557657 There are a hundred other series that are also yuri. What's special about this yuri? What can I find in it that I couldn't get anywhere else?
>>4557703 >wouldve been my favorite character up until that moment. Sorry anon, but you simply gravitate towards bisluts. You don't have to act like you were betrayed. It was very obvious what kind of person she was going to be and you liked her anyway.
>>4557716 I wish Toko had a pairing. She spent all of the series having lesbian awakenings and might even have a little crush on Akebi, like most of the other girls.
>>4557725 Is it that unique? Only she shows up when google searching.
>>4557708 >It was very obvious what kind of person she was going to be and you liked her anyway. Simply not true. Mischievous cheating home-wreckers come in all sizes.
>>4557778 Besides, those two are breaking the school uniform rules; they're a bad influence on the rest of the school. What's next, casual clothes and no uniforms? How awful.
>>4557799 >>4557826 In both cases, its easily explained by her being a year younger than Komichi. Yes it could be personality too, but Erika's attempts to top like the day she showed up in the trousers uniform for the first time, show she intends to impress Komichi but it just gets swamped by Komichi's reactions to her.
>>4557813 I don't think Erika is breaking school uniform rules, other than the minor infraction of not wearing the tie. If you look at the class later, Riri is wearing the long sleeve blouse with a tie and no vest as well, and class rep is wearing it with how its supposed to be worn with vest and tie in place of the blazer since its summer. But I actually think the trousers are an option to the uniform and its just Erika is the first in the JC division to use it. There may well be JKs in the other half of the school wearing trousers but Ryobai keeps their High School and Jr High girls fairly separated and the only girls to regularly see JKs are Hitomi and Riri as they are such high level athletes they train with JKs.
>>4557566 Dear diary today I realise that I miss korean GLs, is a shame koreans are such a bunch of faggots addicted to yaoislop and hetslop so there aren't that many works like in the past, I grieve
>>4557960 I mean they actually get shit done and get websites down, they are the ones who fucked with bato, mangadex and so on, so much weebdex even had a disclaimed they wouldn't allow gook uploads.
>>4557974 A twin whose twin died when they were young, travelling back in time to make sure she's the one that dies instead, then oneeloli-ing her twin sister would make for a good oneshot.
>i think i'm.... >[page break] >in love with her >TO BE CONTINUED I dont care how overused they are, i love these end of chapter realizations. Never fails to get me excited for the next chapter
>>4558052 One of them goes to fight aliens in deep space and ages faster than the one who stays on Earth because of Gunbuster-style time dilation stuff Or instead goes on an isekai adventure and again, ages faster because time on isekailand goes faster than on Earth. Could even be a Rayearth thing where time on Earth is basically frozen and the isekai'd girl is returned to the same point in time and space she was summoned from, even after spending time adventuring and saving the other world
>>4558155 They're transported body and soul, so phyical aging applies. It's just they aren't in Cephiro too long in both arcs because in both cases, Cephiro is already in deep shit and if they take too long, it fucking dies But either way, it was just an example. The show itself is extremely het and outside of providing the example for this sceneario very irrelevant to this board
>>4558441 Its death hurts even more because they didn't end it over poor sales but rather the devs went separate ways and fought over who has the rights of the IP
>>4558444 You did miss a lot. Yuri has become way worse now. It was magical to experience explicit romance and sex in such an adorable way. Now you either get whores or asexuals.
>>4558487 >There are exactly 2 asexual yuri manga Explicitly you mean? Because a bunch of others just never get close to even touching the topic. No kiss, no touching, no nothing. Even drool manga fell short. De facto asexuality.
>>4558491 It's possible to be sexual in a subtext way. No need to show everything if the author is uncomfortable but it could at least be implied. But many forget that sex is a component to romance. It feels asexual, which is really really bad. Almost as bad as making characters a bunch of whores.
>>4558478 That isn't about "then" vs "now". VNs have been a freer medium because they don't need age ratings or to meet rules of console manufacturers, manga publishers or TV stations. But people lost interest and moved on to gacha and Vtubers, so now VNs are far less profitable. And thus all that's really left is LNs, manga, anime. Which all come with their own regulations and restrictions. You want to make a sexual story, you have to go into hentai manga magazines or ecchi TV timeslots or even streaming sites that do hentai like animefesta. And because people tune in to these expecting lots of sexuality, you gotta meet those criteria. So the problem is that "sexual" and "non sexual" can't coexist. They're separated in corners and stories are forced to focus on one or the other
>>4558505 That'd be bad writing. But yeah I want the full course as SonoHana gave us. If it's not explicit it should be implied in a way it can be understood. Otherwise it's asexual behavior. Like what were they even hesitating about the whole journey if they were just going to be the same as closer friends?
>>4558444 I never played the series but it seems to be like generic yuri and yuri hentai, and that the only think special about it is that they were the only ones doing it.
>>4558507 >LNs, manga, anime. Which all come with their own regulations and restrictions Well that fucking blows. But I still think a smooth and talented author can squeeze something in. I really think the problem is sociological. Society is feeling icky about sex or something and yuri is paying the price. >moved on to gacha and Vtubers Sounds like a now vs then problem. People are becoming more stupid. Why the fuck would gambling on jpg's be more fun than a full meal if you're a yuri fan? The Nurse VNs mog any fucking gacha. And I don't even wanna know what Vtubers are about. I've managed to never watch a single one so far and intend to stay pure.
>>4558515 Pro tip as someone who stumbled across Vtubers like everyone else in 2020 during the pandemic and still watches them from time to time: Don't. stay strong, stay pure.
>>4558508 That's impossible outside of eroge and yuri eroge weren't really that common. SonoHana being a long running eroge series with multiple couples was never common. It had to end someday and it did. But outside of SonoHana, yuri like it that you want has never been common, in past or the present
>>4558515 >Society is feeling icky about sex It really doesn't and the fact you don't see that means your desensitized to it >mog You have to be over 21 to post here
>>4558515 It would be a now vs then problem if something happened with other mediums, but it didn't From a yuri PoV, the death of VNs in favour of gacha and Vtubing makes 0 sense. But the thing is VN market was sustained by het and waifu fans. And gacha and Vtubing gives them the self-insert parasocial waifu experience at the cost they want. No need to pay full price for a game you can only play in computer when you can watch an stream or play a game wherever you want in your phone and you decide how much you spend (sure the total money spent in superchats or pulls probably end up more expensive than VNs but it's easy for people to decieve themselves when those costs are paid little by little insted of all at once. The microtransaction nature of superchatting or pulling gacha can decieve many that it's cheaper than regular gaming or VNs) Even back in the golden days of VNs, most were flavours of hetshit. Yuri like SonoHana has always been rare. And the restrictions on other mediums have been a thing since self-publishing OVAs and stuff stopped but that doesn't affect yuri because not much yuri existed back in those OVA days before everything became products regulated by magazines and TV stations
>>4558523 Conversely the barrier of entry to write your own VN is trivial. Like with the nee-san that just dropped the sequel to prudence prep on the last personal yuri thread. The only financial barrier being the overall art design and your own writing skills. Ren'py is free and you can get royalty free music for your soundtrack
>>4558527 Yeah but nobody cares about indie shit by people with no proven record. It just gets drowned by the sea of other shit Unless it's free like the Narou stories that are the origin of many generic shitty shows today. That is how they get fanbases: being free, like gacha and streams. If people have to pay to even check out your VN, they're gonna be more reticient than when they can check a WN, stream or gacha for free before deciding to open their wallets
>>4558529 Yes but we're only talking about this genre not the glazed over waifu masses. >Unless it's free I'm actually specifically saying go make a free vn and leave a donation tab on your itch.io page. More yuri is always a positive
>>4558523 Honestly Vtubers and Gacha are both the same shit, so much so that I wonder what they have to do with yuri at all. I mean, sure, there are exceptions in gachas like R1999 or Honkai Impact, but most of it is just a flood of hetshit waifu collectors for the self-insert. And Vtubing is just the same! Some vtuber might fake to be oh so close to another girl, but at the end of the day, their very business model is to be owned by the viewer who is basically the gacha self-insert in this.
>>4558531 And the genre is funded by waifu masses. SonoHana being made by dedicated yurifags who didn't make het waifu stuff was ultra rare always Let's look at other famous yuri VNs FLOWERS: studio has made mostly het YuriRei: Again, studio has made mostly het Yuri VNs were funded by hetfag money. You can't make a now vs then statement based on a single yuri franchise (SonoHana) >>4558534 >>4558535 As I said, not much except for the fact the money of the hetfags that now are into gacha and Vtubers is what made some yuri VNs possible But there's a reason the Vtuber and gacha threads here are dead even for this board's standards.
>>4558535 >because they'll never deliver That's China for you for these two examples which might have been poorly chosen if I'm honest. You have girls who are willing to let the whole universe burn for each other, whose love to each other breaks the metaphysical rules of their world, everybody knows what's meant, everybody knows that everybody knows, but they can't say it or else Winnie the Pooh shuts it all down.
>>4558537 Oh wow. Literally A single game among hundreds and a single couple in a game that delivered nothing more. Clearly gacha is super yuri Clearly there's so much going on the gacha thread here should be super active, right? Outside of HBR, the general gacha thread is ultra dead and the bushiroad (D4DJ) thread is literal imagedump.
>>4558542 >>4558543 2 is wrong. 1 and a single couple in another who aren't even MCs. Going "ackshually" doesn't change other 99.9999999% of gacha is by waifufags for waifufags
>>4558539 >That's China for you I just don't believe it. There's manga from China that deliver canon. There's stuff they make in Singapore, or the autonomous places like HK and Tw etc. There's always the option to make spin-offs and deliver canon confirmation for couples. Gacha companies just don't want to do it and can always rely on users making bs excuses like that. Until a gacha makes couples canon and gets in trouble with the government, I'll always think it's an excuse or cope. They benefit from all the fomo and anxiety.
>>4558540 Which reinforces my point things are better now either way and that using a single franchise to nostalgiafag about how in the past yuri wasn't either "no sexuality" or "super sex time all the time" and there was balance based on a single franchise is stupid
>>4558545 >Until a gacha makes couples canon and gets in trouble with the government How would you know what happens behind close doors?. If someone tries to make canon yuri and the regulations/censors tell them "stop and change it" before release, you'd never know. These things aren't made public. You just get the final product of all such negotiations and if there was trouble, you'd never know it. And thus we can only speculate why hoyoshit doesn't deliver.
>>4558546 No my initial point stands. For someone like me getting into yuri and playing SH it was life-changing. While the manga scene still kinda sucked, the VNs and OVA delivered. 1. Girls unambiguously in love, 2. Have sugary moments and confession, get together, kiss. 3 Start having sex. 4. Get slightly more dirty as they try out new stuff. It was fantastic. Maybe the anon above is right and it was just a happy accident that the coolest people on Earth made a unique passion project. But the point is yuri nowadays doesn't normally deliver that kind of experience anymore. Except for some LNs. Shuukura is pretty fucking great and I enjoy seeing some people's reactions on social media. But if I was starting now and saw all the whoreshit or asexualshit, I wouldn't fall in love with the genre.
>>4558555 A single franchise is not a representation of anything. Even back then, SonoHana was an exception. Even back then, it was "whoreshit" or "asexualshit" as you say it The elements you like were only present in SonoHana. You can't use it's end to claim "things got worse".
>>4558557 Gossip and leaks are still specula, you won't get a solid confirmed statement from a solid source, just specula from chink anons that is not stronger evidence than people here saying so. Did Hoyo got restricted by the gov noticing them when they got big? Or did they just like waifufag money and thus why they don't deliver more yuri outside Honkai 3rd? We'll never have soild confirmation.
>>4558560 Just apply Occam's razor there. Obviously a company with a predatory business model likes money and will make decisions that lead to more money. Only the prey actually care about the jpg.
>>4558561 Still same as nothing. Why do you think, 1 and a single side couple (not even 2, stop being deceitful) changes anything, you gambling addicted retard?
>>4558517 >It had to end someday and it did. No it was canceled for infighting between the devs, there was still stories to tell specially when they created more spinoffs set in the same universe Even one of the couples of the OG cast were planning to get married
>>4558567 You kill yourself, gambling addicted autist. No one cares for your "acshually". The moment D4DJ and HBR end (which has to happen someday, no gacha is eternal), it will literally be nothing. Why is "there should be more yuri gacha than 1 and a single couple in another" so offensive to you? Are you so autistic that "nothing" being wrong in a literal sense offends you?
>>4558569 That's my point. Sooner or later, it'd end for whatever reason. They could have kept milking without fighting but it would have ened someday because the fanbase stops caring, not enough interest or as it happened, the devs start infighting
>>4558575 Given nips, it could be corpo/polite speech for "they started fighting for whatever reason, and it got so bad they could no longer work together and they couldn't agree who ultimately owns the franchise to continue it"
>>4558571 No, the problem is that you try to force your "nothing" narrative when you're given real examples of people who actually know what you're complaining about without knowing anything. Then those examples "mysteriously" lose their value. The fact that those Gacha games are going to end doesn't change the fact that your "nothing" logic has no real foundation.
>>4558582 I already told you my point. Gacha has almost nothing. 1 game and a single couple in another is extremely bad. The genre is limited by devs pandering to self inserters and fan specula, so couples either don't get together so fans of couples deemed non-canon don't get angry, or the girls just for the sel MC and you only get yuri with female MC as a result of said MC pandering There should be more. But there isn't and that's extremely bad and makes the genre basically worthless for yuri. Your only point meanwhile is semantics about the word "nothing" being wrong in a literal sense. >>4558583 Of course the ESL can only know "nothing" in the most literal definition.
>>4558540 Yuri doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's part of the media landscape like any other genre. No one is gonna make yuri for a dead medium that no one cares about anymore, marketability always comes first.
>>4558643 Most people aren't making passion projects, they want an incentive that rewards them for all the free time and money they spent on their personal projects, and 10 people is not enough. You clearly don't know shit about creative process, so you're talking out of your ass like an entitled little bitch.
>>4558756 >Comix Did they fuck this up lately? The reader is unusable now, won't even allow zooming a page past the height of the window, and there is no gender-bender warning tag to exclude from searches anymore. I would've never saved a bookmark if it was this bad before.
>>4558859 Yes, I had the same experience trying to read something yesterday and gave up.
I actually managed to finagle it into a workable reader after a bit, but it was a manga which had multiple groups working on it. And let me say, the way it handles moving from chapter to chapter has to be the worst I've ever seen. It can't keep the order right (it doesn't even look like it sorts by first digit, a common stupid error, it's just complete nonsense), it doesn't separate by group, it doesn't let you search for a chapter # (if you search from chapter 3 you get every chapter with 3 in it), and on and on.
I gave up and downloaded it to read locally instead.
Tell me about your permanent OTPs, /u/. Not whatever flavor of the month you have going on, but couples or ships that have been on your mind and heart for many years maybe longer than you can remember. And how do you enjoy them without new content from the source.
>>4558899 My favorite since playing their game in 2019. >And how do you enjoy them without new content from the source. I just have to make do with the nice memories and the occasional new fanart.
>>4558899 Konami was my first big yuri pair, and it cemented my love for genkixtsundere couples. I've been enjoying them as a surrogate since then This very season I have CocoxAgott to scratch that itch.
>>4558903 >CocoxAgott This is such a strange one. For years it was just wishful thinking as it seemed like the manga was setting Coco up with Tartah, then the Silver Eve arc happens, Tartah fucks off with Custas, the girls get closer, Agott starts getting flustered around Coco, and it doesn't seem that far-fetched now? I wasn't reading the manga for the yuri in the first place anyway so this is just a bonus, but it was such a pleasant surprise.
>>4558899 Kumiko and Reina. Even after all these years I still think about them a bunch. Thankfully I'm not the only one so scrolling through the tag on Twitter/Pixiv and visiting AO3 does give a decent amount of fan content still. Akko and Diana. Pretty much the same case as above. Darjeeling and Kay. I enjoy the USA girl x UK girl dynamic you get from the two a lot, it's wonderful. This one is a lot more difficult to get because GuP's heyday has long passed and there's not a lot fan content in general, much less for a ship like this one. I browse danbooru and re-look back at older art whenever I end up thinking of them. Reimu and Marisa. One of my first ships and still very easily one of my most favourite ones. The constrast between traditional serious Japanese shrine maiden and genki blonde magician dressed in western-styled witch clothes hits all the right spots to me. Never need to worry about new content because as long as the Japanese are alive, there will always be someone making new ReiMari stuff.
>>4558899 I personally have several, Yamato x Fubuki, Kaede x Riri, many more, but Kyoko and Madoka really touched me and haven't left, although recently Yuu x Rura from Bad Girl also won my heart; they are couples that instead of having a lot of bland and soulless content, the little they have is valuable.
>>4558899 Rachel and Horizon from Counterside. The game is frankly not that good, and not yuri either except for the occasional yuribait, but their relationship is just really precious to me
>>4558937 I hope she does. But man, it would be so much easier to tell ourselves it's just subtext and move on if there wasn't already a canon gay couple in the series that shows she CAN commit to having a same-sex couple in her story if wants to.
>Because homosexuality was heavily repressed by French society at the time, brothels sprang up around Paris that served only lesbian women... in the 1890s a quarter of all of the "fornicatrices on Paris serve[d] as tribadists for the rich women who patronize fornices [brothels]
>>4558899 I don't think I'll ever change this wallpaper, just seeing them even after so many years makes my heart a little warmer. I sometimes draw them, listen to their 夏空の光 duet, or the OST in general. I'm happy to see many people still thinking about them and posting art. For many years of Flowers to come, even if the official content released slows down.
>>4558958 >I'm happy to see many people still thinking about them they are my fav couple by far but for me Erika is at the center of everything, I just love her so much
>>4558899 Konata/Kagami (Lucky Star) It's what got me into yuri Rika/Satoko (Higurashi) Hanyuu threesome also accepted Hinata/Hanabi (Naruto) Ruby/Weiss (RWBY) Akko/Diana (LWA) Lysithea/Annette (Three Houses) I know it's not a popular ship from the game, but I love it. Between them being my 2 favorites plus my imagined dynamic for them being a lot like the previous 2 couples Himiko/Angie (Danganronpa)
That's what comes to mind immediately. I could list something like Sakura/Know since I do ship them but they were never among my favorites
>>4558965 >What content do they still release and where? It's basically CD dramas. I think they were translating those in the flowers discord but haven't checked there in a while. The last CD drama is being recorded right now, just checked for some info and pic related was posted today, wow. Beware of spoilers. Last year for the 10th anniversary there was a concert with an art exhibition. There's also a bunch of artbooks, the 20th one is specially good and there's a translation for it worth checking out after completing the games. Here's all the links with the things I mention (couldn't find the art exhibition though): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17whO5tdXdDzlfRpxO2nRFqg0SZKbTEcp?usp=drive_link https://rentry.org/flowers20th https://mega.nz/file/HBdm0RBQ#5PAli9jfVlR5tpuah3e6CZQVYYmdHYC5CtD3MrdppF0
>>4558970(me) Forgot the Erika and Chidori letters, to read after finishing all the games. Fantastic stuff. https://imgur.com/a/letter-from-erika-chidori-translated-by-flowersgungnir-facebook-YnNvyCB
>>4558973 The drive above, in the seaons' folders. It's JP though.
>>4558899 BronSeele. Even after all this years, I simply can't quit playing that dumb gacha game and since it's Honkai Impact, it constantly reminds me of these two again and again. So many couples and their stories that I read and watched... and they just stay present because of that and my bad habits.
>>4558978 Didn't mean that it's bad to remind them, even if just one in a hundred reconsiders fighting for it, it's a life you might've saved from bitterness.
>>4558972 >go ahead, follow your dreams, maybe 10 people in your whole lifetime will care >why are you upset I encouraged you? Possibly the shittiest thing you can say to an aspiring artist. The true dreamers are too insane to stop but there comes a degree of negativity where it feels safer keeping your delusions to yourself if you think you're the only one who would appreciate them.
>>4558899 These two morons have occupied a far greater share of my thoughts for 15 years than they should. Everything about their dynamic and how tragic their story is is just perfect.
>>4559003 Unless you're so shallow that your dream is literally to become rich and popular or something, as long as you fulfill it you wouldn't really care how many people compliment you about it.
>>4559003 You kept making it about size and profitability. If 10 people read my work and at least 2 people had something nice to say about it, I'd be happy
>>4559036 >>4559039 To be fair, many "fans" of specific series operate this way; they only know the good parts and ignore that the whole package is garbage (like Hug Precure).
>>4559038 What exactly made you come away with the opinion "exquisite"? The awkward, inexplicable jump from non-relationship with few one on one interactions to vitriol to suddenly very in love? The super contrived and badly written confession/kiss scene where they were so awkwardly pressed to write what they like about each other that they end up saying things that aren't even accurate?
Also how can your permanent OTP, the ship that is constantly on your mind, possibly be a thing you don't even have any of the actual context for? God damn I am so tilted.
>>4559039 I don't disagree but I still don't understand how you'd come away from any canon RWBY pairing with "exquisite" they are all terrible.
>>4559058 I am desperately hoping that them seeding early Azula sympathy stuff in the first season of the live action show means that the second season+ might continue that and there's a possibility of canon.
>>4558899 adashima first thing i think about when i woke up in the morning, whenever something happen in my life i always think "what'd adashima do?", it's a religion for me
>>4559157 dynamic mightve been the wrong term, but you know what i mean. rivals turned lovebirds. Akko was lively, but she was also spiteful/selfish and wasn't the typical "i wanna be friends with her, so i wont give up" type of genki
>>4558993 What a silly question, making yuri is not the dream, it's how you fulfill it. If you have any sense you should know that yuri is the best thing in the world, so the greatest joy you could possibly feel in your life is experiencing the perfect yuri for you, that is the dream. But nobody else is ever going to make it happen, even your favorite works will always have things you'd have preferred to be different, so you can either give up and resign on living a bitter life knowing you've deprived yourself of the one true bliss just so you can take it easy, or you can buck up and turn it into reality no matter what it takes. The choice is yours.
>>4558899 MadoHomu. It's nice having a new movie come out for new content, but before that I just rewatched the series and the movie. Still hits the same every time.
>>4559184 What a childish way of thinking. Once you grow up, you'll realise that yuri is not an end, but a means. When you truly love a story, you don't care about some retarded idea of perfection, you just love it warts and all.
>>4559197 If it were anything related to Gridman, it would be fair to feel embarrassed, not just because of the couple, but because of the bad taste in general.
>>4559240 In that case, there's no need to feel any shame, and as far as I understand, there are like two other yuri couples too. More than a het series as such, it's basically a science fiction series with several couples thrown into the mix.
>>4559239 >What a childish way of thinking. Once you grow up, you just love it warts and all be careful anon, in growing up, many lose the ability to hear their inner child's voice and begin leading a dreamless existence; that is not maturity, it's resignation never stop believing, there can always be a story with even less warts that you'll love even more, yuri has no limits as any artist would tell you, the moment you allow yourself to be satisfied is the moment you'll stop improving, imagine if yuri authors never wished to surpass marimite, we'd be still stuck there
>>4559257 I love girls and I love girls loving girls in all forms. Crakships not so much, highly dependent I guess. There is an indescribable feeling to these relationships that you cannot get elsewhere.
>>4559312 >>Haruka and Michiru. At this point it's just a "type of couple" and many people here could give many more examples at different levels of yuri, of similar couples.
>>4559315 >>How official are we talking? The ending was pretty obvious about it, although you have to consider that they work for the antagonist of the new arc, so anything can happen since this Digimon series makes it clear how to make a mature Digimon series without being edgy crap like Tri and everything that came after Tri (referring to Adventure).
>>4559318 Appmon was literally a Yaoi series in the end, so.
>>4559257 When I was a tween I realized I really liked reading romance, and that I really liked reading about women, romance between women was the obvious next step
>>4559163 You made me realize I'd only read the first ~10 chapters of this I binged the entirety of it today and holy shit that's a good doujin, made me like the ship even more than I already did
>>4558899 ChisaTaki. It's a pairing between a genki girl and an honest-to-goodness classic tsundere with a triple-digit bodycount. Content has been flowing at a good pace even after the show ended so I'm able to slake my thirst, but I will say that LycoReco has some of the best sex doujins I've ever read.
>>4559666 >dominated the decade which was completely ridiculous. they werent even good yuri couples to begin with. their respective shows did not prioritize their relationship and focused on other things, so to me they are hardly a yuri couple.
>>4559671 It's not necessary to care about every plot put out there by some big production. Sometimes it's all about the concept of a couple to excite people's creativity.
>>4559671 >>their respective shows did not prioritize their relationship and focused on other things, so to me they are hardly a yuri couple. This is the dumbest opinion I've read in a long time. That's not how the world works; what you want to believe doesn't reflect reality or what other people think.
>>4559678 The problem is that his complaint isn't about the dynamics or even the couples themselves, but rather that they can't be considered couples simply because they aren't 100% yuri series and have other plots or themes. Because, putting aside whether you like Bocchi and Kita or not, the series has yuri and basic shipping in other areas; people simply liked the chemistry between them more than the other options, similar to Chinatsu x Akari, which at the end of the day is more of a beta pairing than anything else.
>>crackship. That's not what the term means and it never will mean; that would only apply to couples with zero foundations that could never occur under any circumstances. Bokita has reasons to exist.
It's the same as saying HonoMaki is a crackship, just because the vast majority of autistic fans of the franchise prefer NicoMaki; that doesn't invalidate the first pairing and doesn't make the second one any good either.
>>4559668 I'm only going to speak based on the new anime, but the couple there was presented in the worst possible way. Haruka spent all his time flirting with a straight girl who had a boyfriend, and there was barely any real dynamic between the yuri couple. I don't know if the original anime did a better job, but at least what I saw was mediocre.
>>GigaStacy like Haruka whose every other line is a flirtatious one aimed at other women. I can swear that Waltrud Krupinski operates under the same ideas, the difference is that Krupinski, by her nature, cannot maintain a stable relationship, even though it is made clear that she has had sex with Edytha Rossmann.
>>4559668 Even thinking about it, there are many more examples of that, and several series, and even those rare cases of girls who conquer other girls, without even trying or just by existing.
>>4559682 >they can't be considered couples simply because they aren't 100% yuri series They can’t be considered couples because they aren’t couples. The only real couple mentioned was SureMio.
>>4559633 The chisataki, sulemio, bokita nuclear strike one after the other was hilarious. I have a feeling it would be even funnier if it included irokagu
There are many elements that go into being a good yuri couple. It is difficult to express that if the story, theme, and/or setting do not revolve around romance or said relation. In the case of Bocchi x Kita, Kita simply has a caring, friendly personality. There is no real focus on the two. There are no motives behind it. The audience takes it and runs with it because its the closest thing they have resembling yuri. There are many actual yuri couples in manga and anime, yet out of every single one in existence people choose BoKita? ChisaTaki? What you want in a couple is the chase and yearning to be together. The love to be mutual and reciprocated. Feelings that slowly grows and is realized after spending time together. Not something the audience has to make up in their head because one of tiny baits.
>>4559698 StrikerS is from 2009 and was a 24-episode anime, so it would be more of a 2010 pairing, and it was in that season where the yuri things were made clear, that's why the hetfags hate that season and just want the series to stay in lolinoha, especially with Nanoha and Fate having the fewest possible interactions.
>>4559693 Following that same logic, then it rules out all yuri series with developing couples that have not formalized the main couple, or it also applies to secondary couples that have not been finalized or have no explicit confirmation.
Couples don't work that way, stop forcing that silly logic.
>>4559700 As I said, couples don't work that way. If we were evaluating what the couple does or how they function within the narrative of a series and whether they are a good element for it, then what you say would make sense. That's why Citrus is a bad joke, a yuri series with a confirmed couple who get married at the end, with a simply terrible dynamic, where people followed the manga out of pure moral obligation and not because they liked the couple. Or an even worse example is the anime Yuri Kuma Arashi, a confirmed canon couple, but one that doesn't do anything remotely memorable or even have a dynamic that can reach people. That's why people remember the series, but not the final couple.
>>4559702 >it rules out all yuri series with developing couples That was not ruled out at all >the chase and yearning to be together You cannot tell me Bocchi x Kita is a developing couple. It's literally just a fanmade pairing.
>>4559703 People and the general public simply loved the dynamic between the two girls, who did have a lot of shipping in the actual series, which is why there was a lot of art during the series; it's not that complex or needs elaborate explanations.
Not everyone is an idiot who has to wait until the end to "like" a particular couple; if you believe in that logic, it's better to stop consuming entertainment altogether.
>>4559706 >>It's literally just a fanmade pairing. Not really, the girls have dynamics and interactions between them. If that weren't the case, then it would be fan-made, but you don't see art inventing a non-existent dynamic. They take the nature of the characters and what they already do. To be invented, it has to be equal to or worse than the crap that hetfags and waifufas do with the girls from a series and their "character avatars."
>>4559709 >>shipping than actual yuri. Shipping is also romance; it's contained within it, it's not something separate and disposable, nor is it something open to interpretation, it's simply something present and as I said, to say that it's not yuri, then dismisses any explicitly yuri series that doesn't have its main couple explicitly confirmed from minute 1.
>>4559704 >couples dont work that way What the fuck are you talking about? That is exactly how couples work. You work and put in time and effort into a relationship to be together.
>>4559704 >That's why Citrus is a bad joke Man, I used to love them because of that kiss. But holy shit she ruined her manga. Even the other two are uninteresting atp.
Just finished watching China's first baihe (yuri) anime and like it quite a lot, shame the studio behind it went bankrupt and this will forever remain as a standalone OVA. The thing itself is nothing revolutionary, just a regular CGDCT with passable subtext, but it made me excited for the future, maybe we could have more subtext-heavy anime coming out of China but I don't know. Probably linked already in a previous thread but here's the full thing with eng subs: https://youtu.be/y7x09rqGaDg?si=tKogEUXtlemTWXJo
>>4559750 Ave Mujica never seemed to hit with the same kind of force as MyGO. I don't know if it was because we were all anticipating the menhera after the revelation of MyGO having a really good writer transforming what should've been a cute girls playing cute instruments show into a psychological tour de force or what, but it just felt a little flat compared to the hyperventilating that went on when AnonSoyo was fresh at least until the incest revelation and the show was 90% over at that point. It's a shame, because I really like Ave Mujica's music and I buy their CDs and BDs with the passion of a fat fuck with a lightstick.
>>4559750 Really weird, especially the part where UmiTaki shows up on chart, but UiSaki doesn't. On gelbooru they are almost even with AnoSoyo, and AnoSoyo has been a thing for two years longer.
>>4559778 Idk my takeaway is this vid is not to be trusted in it's entirety. Some things just don't add up. Plus there is this shitty taging system that probably screw up results on top of that
>>4559780 Yes, it's probably just them searching for popular couples they know, you can tell by how vtubershit is missing from the list, which I suspect is on purpose.
>>4559742 As soon as China comes up, I think about Honkai Impact. Yeah I'm sorry for my gacha brain, but by that I mean convoluted storytelling, saying everything but the word so that every other interpretation would be silly. This has its very own charme and appeal. I doubt that Chinese artists will be allowed to create the stories they want anytime soon so they have to make do with this very heavy subtext. I'll check out this "OVA" for sure, interesting find.
but seriously, why is all noncon with highschoolers? are lesbians naturally lolicons or something? I can't even think of a rape yuri with adults aside from porn.
>>4559754 >flat compared to the hyperventilating that went on when AnonSoyo was fresh But AnonSoyo is pretty much all fanon, in the first season they had minimal teasing compared to the average supported ship in any Bang Dream season, pretty much only that blink-and-miss Anon lifting Soyo's hair strand, and in Ave Mujica they had nothing at all. Anon's officially favored ship is with Tomori, as boring as that one is.
>>4559964 >Tomori Her official partner is Riki; anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot, and thank goodness this isn't Love Live, or everything after Mygo would be truly terrible for satisfying the "popular couples."
>>But AnonSoyo is pretty much all fanon Not entirely, the dynamic between the two of them was what sold the couple; they are both quite similar to each other as people, but with different degrees of autism.
>>4558968 another one I thought of since this was Candice x Maylene (Pokemon). That's really the only one that stands out to me. At least if you exclude stuff like Female protag x Female lead like Selene x Lillie, Gloria x Marnie, or Leaf x Elaine or super recent stuff like Canari x Gwynn
>>4560068 Fine, I'll try guessing: TakiTomo being foils to UiSaki? Both are lyricist-music maker couples but in MyGo music is written for lyrics, while AveMujica is the opposite. Uika also has obsessive crush on Saki, but unlike Taki she is perfectly fine with other bandmates disappearing. Then there is moment when Uika tried to mimic Tomori's style of lyrics to get her feelings through, which... Did not work as intended. And so on?
>>4560079 From what I've seen, people focus too much on Taki putting Tomori on a pedestal but ignore that Taki also infantilizes Tomori, she doesn't listen to Tomori and tries to tell people what Tomori is thinking or feeling only for Tomori to contradict her afterwards I think that tension between idolization and infantilization is more interesting than the dynamic I see in most fanworks, which is usually just Taki being protective
I prefer fluff over drama, so I like TakiTomo fanworks where Taki takes care of her baby penguin. I definitely hear what you're saying though, about Taki treating Tomori like the ideal version of Tomori she made up in her head instead of dealing with the real Tomori standing in front of her.
>>4560102 >>4560104 Well-made drama isn't bad in itself; the problem is having to swallow artificial melodrama with conflicts and problems that could be solved if people stopped to think for more than one second.
>>4560107 I don't say drama is bad, I just say I read and watched too much drama recently and now feel like fluff. Sometimes, the best yuri out there is some over the top soap opera.
>>4560092 >tell people what Tomori is thinking or feeling only for Tomori to contradict her afterwards That was a thing, yes. But I'm not sure it still applies in AveMuji and onwards. Might need to rewatch more closely. Again.
To be fair Tomori doesn't really understand Taki that well either. She even says in the game she wants to understand her more and wants her to try writing lyrics since to Tomori those are people's honest feelings.
Anyone know the name of the manga where a princess is taken to a convent to hide there from a vicious power struggle and that her bodyguard, a woman, accompanied her there and ultimately fell in love with the princess despite their predicament?
>>4560117 are you talking about the one where the bodyguard has an idealized view of the princess but then the princess shits herself while they're on the run and the bodyguard starts seeing her as a regular person?
That I don't remember. It was violent (more on that later), only had one kiss scene (the knight receiving it, but from another girl to boot), and yes, the knight and princess do confess their feelings but it's ruined by the relative planning on killing the latter and chopping off the arm of the former.
That one episode of Call up Girls really got me hooked now, thank you to whoever posted this yesterday. I can't find anything about it on Dynasty Scans and Mangadex just has like the first 5 chapters. Does anyone know where to find more of this or where to find something similar? Some fluffy and sweet Bǎihé for the Chinese century. I'm not that familiar with Chinese manhua.
>>4559975 There are a couple of seiyuu who I strongly suspect of being gay but I can't say that Moepi was on my radar. The kisses she had on the Yakakimi play just looked like "let's professionally touch our lips together so that our skin doesn't fall off after doing this a thousand times" kind of acting thing. It's nice to imagine that they were backstage one day and were like, "senpai, let's sloppily make out onstage to sell it to the audience, it's not like we're gay or anything, that would be weird haha" but that probably never happened. The iphone shit was funny though.
Anyway, on the topic of drama in girl bands, the guitarist Saki recently came out with a tellall book where she basically said that it's the music industry that's the asshole, not her, after she joined and left about a half-dozen bands and my theory is that she slept with so many girls and caused so many love triangles that she had to keep leaving bands before someone got stabbed, and now she's so radioactive that she has to go solo. She might be such a lesbian slut that it ruined her career. She complained once about the age gap between herself and the other members of Nemophilia and I wonder if she got too addicted to the taste of younger pussy.
>find married lesbian couple youtube reactors >they react to live-action GL and anime >the only anime is shonenshit and maleslop Why are normie lesbians allergic to yuri anime?
>>4560363 As a grown and mature adult myself, I can confirm this. I only drink coffee and beer while watching sports on my TV for entertainment, anything else would be juvenile.
>>4559742 The fact that it ended right as it was getting good was infuriating. Interesting that the love interest wasn't one of the MC's friends. Chinese has to be one of the most hideous spoken languages, I never got used to it even from watching Soulmate Adventure. Do Chinese students go back to school at night or something? The sun was already down when the MC went back to tell the girl from Railgun about the cat she saw by the riverbed.
>>4560390 We need mise-en-abyme yuri where the yuri mangaka draws yuri about a yuri mangaka who draws yuri about a yuri mangaka who draws yuri about a...
>>4560394 Everyone on this board is. It's rare when yuri happens to be what "everyone is watching". And the shows that manage such popularity tend to be controversial here like LycoReco. Very rarely actual maintext yuri reaches that popularity.
>>4560412 Every work appeals to every demographic, just in different scales, you will never have a work that is 100% of a unique gender or age or any other identifier you can think of
>>4559742 >yuri anime >it is just passable subtext at best What is wrong with people like you? You literally go out of your way to call this their first yuri anime and it isn't even yuri and just censored subtext garbage that goes nowhere. I guess that's the level we have to expect from chinks, but you don't have to slobber it up...
>>4560491 >>4560492 There's an Anon who is a fan and draws in her style. it's not actual Itou Hachi. The English-Japanese language barrier is too much. There are creators here but they're not published Japanese mangaka.
>>4560509 Yes, there's a manhua which has been going on for years at this point, I'm furiously searching for some EN scan, but I find nothing but the first few chapters so far.
>>4560502 I wonder how good grok is translating for them on Twitter. It's garbage for me, I can never make sense of it. Seems that they're using too many resources for cp. So I've been relying on chatgpt when I need to know what Asians are saying about something.
I'm looking for this oneshot. MC is a player who never falls in love, has sex with girls and leaves them without a care. She meets this hot older woman, with a tatoo maybe of flower or butterfly or something of the sort, and falls for her. So they bang but MC knows that she'll be the one dumped this time. I think it's part of an anthology but I'm not sure.
>>4560669 It also happens when people seem to believe something like One Piece is a standard of duration, when any work sooner or later comes to an end.
We inform with great sadness that the local Kuzushiro hater has passed. He committed suicide just a short while ago by jumping off a building. The police is still scraping his remains off the sidewalk.
Just finished Shuukura's high school arc. In retrospect, I started reading it because I was intrigued by the raunchy parts (and those didn't disappoint me at all), but moments like the french toast part, the sleepover part etc were the sweetest ones to me. Now the question is, should I >continue reading it and hoping for Avellium to catch up? or >pause it and read other titles until the college arc somehow wraps up / moves to different arc?
>>4561109 >>4561110 >>4561111 It wasnt even that long ago, but aquatope gives me an indescribable nostalgia. Really wish they went all the way instead of keeping it vague, the first half of the show was extremely comfy
>>4561116 >Really wish they went all the way instead of keeping it vague >PA Works original it was never going to happen. They were pretty clear with them just viewing each other as sisters
>>4561215 Why don't you say the same about PA Works' Het series, which also kept things ambiguous? Because most people have no problem considering those as canon.
>>4561217 NTA but I will never understand your insistence on this nonsense, this is the yuri board, it's not our problem if others have low standards, we are not competing with them over what is yuri or what is het and neither those people are there because they are specifically part of a gender about two types of characters having romantic feelings for each other, so whether it's true or not it's irrelevant to them.
Is anyone following witchriv and is it yuri? Thinking if it's worth giving change to the author to avoid cases like nakinagi where it got axed just when it was going yuri
>>4561296 I have been, and there hasn't really been anything yuri from what I recall. The two females leads don't have many meaningful interactions, and the latest arc about some dude (who will most likely join the girls) and his brother have taken up most of the spotlight with barely any moments with the female leads. That shit started in chapter 8 and it's still not over as of chapter 26.
>>4561296 >>4561306 Yeah, if anything so far it's BL and not yuri, the best you can wish is for the guys to not become love interest for the girls or designed winners because there isn't much you can rely from their own side. The series took a ridiculous direction with never ending flashbacks, sometimes flashbacks inside flashbacks.
The one that say Michika x Kache is a thing maybe be right because Kache is on rescue arc to her friend meltown Also, as person, P chan doesn´t exist so Lolipop had free route if she give up of her 3p relationship..
>>4561785 >>4561787 >>4561788 my headcanon is that Kaya is Ruri and Nagi's science baby which, on top of their mansion, could afford by selling gold and other expensive gems they found
>>4561754 Tried playing Melancholy love several times but the voices kept annoying the shit out of me. And I don't even hate China at all. I appreciate their passionate yuri fans but the sounds are awful. Honestly wish they'd swallow their pride and adopt superior nip phonetics.
Any age gap recs? Recently I’ve liked Keiyaku, but I especially love OL Isekai because of the character dynamics - with younger girls mostly being the aggressors.
>>4561868 I still remember when it was announced, people really thought that Citrus+ (porori-hen) was going to be about the girls' college life and with acts of unrestrained carnality.But in the end it was nothing like what people expected and ironically, Sakura Trick in its extra chapters did have college life and sex between the protagonists.
>>4562027 We already have 2. The 2nd is Kamiina Botan having such a great adaptation. We'll get 3 if KimiShinu can deliver what is seen on trailers (which seems likely).
>>4562014 I mean the original had some yuri subtext, didn't it? It's Netflix, so their attempt to "make it modern" may very well just mean to make it gay. What I'm concerned about is that it's Netflix so they could just end up telling an awful story.
>>4561992 >>princess knight Apparently there was a second version (not the original anime) and supposedly focused on lesbians, I can't confirm that and that's what I read, although that page wasn't particularly reliable in the first place.
>>4562060 There's really not a lot of works similar to ShimSim/GLT to my knowledge, especially ones that are particularly yuri.
The closest ones i can think of are maybe "Shoujo Seikan Hyouryuuki" and "Endroll no Ato ni wa Saikou no Tabi o" which might also scratch a similar itch, with its melancholic tone and two girls traveling together. Not yuri, but Shoulder-a-Coffin Kuro and Kinos journey gave me similar vibes too, and were really good
i also heard people comparing Shuumatsu Touring to GLT, but i never watched it
>>4562092 >i also heard people comparing Shuumatsu Touring to GLT Some weird things do happen, but it's mostly urban exploration and going to tourist spots. The latter part specifically is what takes away that surreal feeling those other works have, because it's so explicitly set in the real world. But it does have a melancholic feel to it, and it's about two girls traveling on a bike, and you can reasonably goggle it.
>>4559541 I was bored because I dropped everything this season except for two shows so I gave this a shot and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I'm sure there was some attempt at highlighting the grueling nature of trying to find a job in Japan but it was fun nonetheless. I'm not sure if it was a coincidence or just a PA Works tie-in, but one of Rise's friends looked just like the blue-haired girl from Aquatope. Also, the loli was voiced by an 11-year-old girl. Whether that enhances or detracts from your fantasies is up to you.
>>4562176 Menou/Akari and Elaina/Amnesia I guess, off the top of my head. Maybe Maple/Sally too? Just how dumb do you want one of them to be? Drooling?
>>4562179 Don't use words you don't understand. >>4562180 >prince and retard A bit rude, but probably well-meaning. Okay, so be it. >>4562182 >Just how dumb do you want one of them to be? Drooling? Well, dumb enough to warrant protection, but not enough to be useless. The "prince" also should have some very real loser streak, but contrast it with cool side at the same time. Can be innate or acquired. Bonus points if none of them are protagonists.
>>4562185 I wouldn't really describe Taki as a loser. She's a miserable cunt with terrible personal skills, but she also cares enough about the band to forego sleep to learn how to write music for Tomori's lyrics. The only real dumb thing she did was bring in Umiri to replace Soyo, but that just taught her how important the members of the band were to Tomori. By the end, Taki kept the band together enough to go toe-to-toe with Ave Mujica, which is no small feat.
>>4562228 Oh, I didn't mean complete loser, just... >miserable cunt with terrible personal skills and a clear human shaped weakness everyone exploits for their benefits or amusement, including Raana. But not Tomori (cute). Is enough to label her as such. Just a dash of it.
And then there is a thing that she tries to be a hero for her band, but it's just isn't who she is. She can't work miracles like Tomori or Anon. You brought the example when she invited Umiri as a mistake, but honestly I see no fault at that. The whole sequence starting from trying to contact Soyo up to this point was the most reasonable course of action. Taki invited Umiri because she was the only left member whe knew just how fucked up the situation is and it was a last ditch effort to stabilise it. If she told Anon and Tomori how things are from the start the result would be the same if not worse.
And Taki is admirable herself. She is the backbone of the band. Just that her cool sides shine brighter on contrast with the messy parts.
>>4562284 I doubt it's about that. I mean, I doubt everyone complaining is a yurifag. I can see complaints about trying to cash in and exploit the Princess Knight IP and Tezuka's name while making an story that is Princess Knight in name only and doesn't even use Tezuka's design. I have seen complaints about that in english speaking twitter, as well. Like how some people didn't like the Dororo remake and it's changes to designs and story. Or to make it about another old creator, Shotaro Ishinomori's Cyborg 009 and the newer CG stuff that changes the designs. When using stablished IPs like that, you're always going to have people intrigued by the new approach and stuff but also people who'd like a more faithful approach. I can see japanese people who loved the original as kids thinking this should be it's own thing. Also happened with Trigun Stampede/Stargaze. They tried changing designs and story, and it was a fuck up. So there's reason to be wary of Ribbon Hero even for non-yurifags
Did this ever amount to anything? https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2026-05-28/sou-hamayumiba-dropout-idol-fruit-tart-manga-ends-in-3-chapters/.237885 All I remember of the anime is that it was one big mess yuri-wise, I'm amazed such a thing could last over 10 years, when good series are axed all the time.
>listen to a song on loop while reading depressing yuri manga/LN >now cant listen to said song anymore because i associate it with the depressing yuri and it makes me feel like shit This keeps happening