Thread #737041256
There should be a new genre for Crimson Desert and E33 Anonymous 04/16/26(Thu)11:11:59 No.737041256 [Reply]▶
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I'd call it "industry plants" or "astroturfed slops".
any other idea?
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qualityslop
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>>737041256
>popular game = industry plant
you people don't even know what you are talking about. If money and contacts is all it takes to make an industry plant, then games like Concord, which had millions of $$$ on their back, would have been pushed hard and won awards, instead of being known as the biggest blunders in media.
A real industry plant is the protagonist of the Horizon games. Forgot her name, but she has plenty of crossovers with other popular games and brands, without the demand to justify it.
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>>737041298
I can dig it
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>>737041430
What if the game being good and attracting customers is BECAUSE of the vision, though?
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>>737041256
Normalfags are so used to mainstream gaming being absolute shit most of the time that when we get a 7/10 game slighty better than average they lose their fucking minds.
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There should be a new genre for OPs. I'd call it "faggot" or "homo"
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>>737041256
industry plant is a term that's been butchered beyond belief, it used to refer to music artists who were promoted as self-made/independent but allegedly had secret label/industry backing
how the fuck does that apply to either of these?
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>>737042041
Copy the plots of other games, copy the gameplay of other games, copy the "Indie" title from other games, copy the pre-made assets... well played, Sandfall. You fooled every moron who likes this game into thinking it's some original masterpiece.
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>>737041256
>I don't like, but everyone else does
>clearly, this is actually just shilling
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>>737042306
Oh, here they are >>737042041
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I can't speak for Crimson Desert since I've barely paid attention to it, but E33's popularity was basically entirely organic. Beyond the first trailer, there wasn't really much in the way of marketing at all.
Initial players (like myself) tried it out of curiosity and were like "holy fuck this is good I gotta spread the word" and told their friends, who then told their other friends, and so-on.
Then after a certain critical mass, people like OP latched onto it and started trying to frame the game as having some multi-billion dollar mossad shill campaign behind it or whatever-the-fuck these brain-raped outragesloppers concoct in the hollow cavern that is their skulls.
Some people got a little annoying with the praise, sure ("durr finally a real rpg for mature adults with no anime teens!!!!" or "finally the first good jrpg!!!"), but you've just gotta separate the fanbase from the product in that scenario.
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>>737041256
> Entire industry pushes left wing games as hard as possible
> The games they dislike actually do best
Somehow the establishment is now trying to brand themselves as (((the resistence))) rather than accepting that they are failing at pushing their propaganda.
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>>737042354
It´s just retarded bait. The term "industry plant" is fucking stupid. Imagine a game, with so much quality (fuck haters), and still sell it at only 50$/€. And these people are so retarded to imply that the industry itself promotes a game that goes against their core "values" (milking your wallet dry, expansions out of the ass. bug-ridden games...)
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>>737042737
>the only thing keeping me playing it is the cute loli girl and the barefoot asian chick
>the fights get more and more annoying
>bosses with 9 trillion hp, 5000 different fake attack animations
>you play the game by pressing the parry button
>i fell asleep during a boss fight
i decided to just watch r34 of it.
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>>737042731
>>Crimson Desert is a left wing game
>How? The game even lets you punch women.
Kliff is a hero who does good for the sake of doing good, without ever expecting anything in return. Matter of fact, being selflessly kind is what makes him the chosen hero. Meanwhile the villains almost all follow a power hungry "might makes right" philosophy and believe the strong should subjugate the weak.
I think the rejection of the notion that might makes right is the foundation of all leftist thought.
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>>737042903
>I think the rejection of the notion that might makes right is the foundation of all leftist thought.
Holy shit, that´s retarded. Care to explain to me how all those dictactorships (left or "right" wing) held their power if not by might?
>Everything is political
You lefties disgust me.
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>>737041298
>quality
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>>737043223
it's lack of talent.
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>>737042579
wut, you just go forward and dodge/parry enemy attacks...wdym unplayable lol
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>>737043285
sorry to say but that did not look like that on my PC, and i made this webm myself and obviously it looks worse than the original recording
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>>737043768
>you need to be at this SPECIFIC X Y Z COORDS for my narrative to work !!!!!!!!
kek
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>>737041256
None of those characters look appealing
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>>737041256
>director of <good game> praises <good game> and <good game> for focusing on creativity instead of milking consooomers
What's the issue here?
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>>737041256
I will never get over the fact that normiefags lost their shit with E33, treating it as some completely new game genre and some kind of holy grail, when it's basically a JRPG, but with western themed graphics and characters instead of the Japanese anime styled ones.
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>>737043881
Yes you retard. They used lumen reflections on all the floors and wall materials in well lit area of the mansion and it falls apart because the devs are pathetic retards who didn't realize that UE5 lumen is a poorly coded pile of dogshit.
they needed to program their own reflections but they were too fucking lazy.
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>>737044039
Seething how you write like a faggot and your zoomgroid xitter reaction pic, I assume you are a nu-weeb that discovered jarpigs with Persona 5 and now larp as a gatekeeper when you only have consumed the most bog standard streamlined trash the genre has offered.
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>>737044039
I'm sure you'll get over it, and that didn't happen at all, nobody was saying that it's some new genre. You made that shit up. It was more like a BG3 scenario where people didn't expect a game of that genre to be so good. Vastly different things. And people liked it because of the story, characters and music not because of the genre.
>>737044119
look, i genuinely don't care because it worked on my machine :)
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>>737044202
too much time on /v/ likely, not enough time actually playing video games
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>>737044039
E33 has beautiful art and compelling storytelling that does not treat the player like a retarded 12-year-old. Anime is the opposite. It's to art what McDonalds is to food. The same thing happened with Arcane. The French took a concept and made it beautiful.
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>>737041407
there is demand for her, it's just entirely out of circles seen here
aloy is like chisel-jawed white guy for zoomers, an entire generation silently grafted on to her and kept buying her at-least-competent open world games
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>>737041256
>poorly implemented mechanics that are still fun to use and abuse
>senseless plot with an occasional cool character that fucks off after 5 minutes
>exploitable combat where you must be unfair against equally unfair enemies
last I've checked, this is what we call jankkino, dunno about that gay frog game, though
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>>737041430
Wrong. The definition of slop (short for “goyslop”) is a low-quality product that is cheap to produce. E33 is a high-quality product that was only cheap to produce because the company is 1% the size of devs like Bungie.
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>>737044407
do retards really think that people hate parry slop, because its..... hard?
you think its hard to press the parry button when the boss takes a swing?
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>>737044039
>worst implementation of UE5 in the world
>cant see fucking shit, the graphics are all blurry and shitty
>combat is the worst in gaming history
>its turn based slop mixed with parry slop
>the story is about a depressed frenchman smoking a cigarette
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>>737043449
The mocap carries this game's story hard and I mean that in the best way possible. This clip isn't the best example, but look at some of them, the amount of character and life given to Gustave and Lune by the facial expressions and body language that Maxence and Estelle is absolutely insane. The VA is great too don't get me wrong but those little shrugs of the shoulders or bowing of the head really sell Gustave's character to a crazy extent, and those sweet, charming gazes of fascination when Lune sees something intriguing look exactly like Estelle if you've watched her amd really sell the character's beauty and charisma.
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>>737044039
I must've been born about 5 years too early to give a shit about all this weeb vs west drama
I remember games before people chose sides then shut their brains off
Pewdiepie? Markiplier? Guns? Upskirts? Pointy teeth? Screechy Asian women? Means nothing to me. Argue amongst yourselves, you fools, you jackals and jesters, and do your best. I will enjoy your most extravagant displays and perhaps chuckle occasionally at the humdrum discord and disagreement, as you churn amongst yourselves and the other leeches in this bucket.
What a spectacle. Truly, something to behold. How your souls have been sucked into this machine and you revel in it. Truthfully... you disgust me.
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>>737046392
E33 was just the second, heavier cock, after BG3.
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>>737044039
>game has actual characters with personalities, flaws, conflicting motives and believable idiosyncrasies
>noooooo you can't like that you have to like these templated archetypes each with the same face differentiated only by hair color!!!!!
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>>737041256
>indians, non whites and esl's still seething over E33
Lmao, why is it every time some deep story comes out tards that can't speak english or appreciate good story telling start seething and shitting their pants?
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>>737046715
My frog can’t be this cute!
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I'm brown and I liked e33
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>>737045920
>worst implementation of UE5 in the world
>cant see fucking shit, the graphics are all blurry and shitty
>combat is the worst in gaming history
>its turn based slop mixed with parry slop
>the story is about a depressed frenchman smoking a cigarette
i dunno man, all this sounds accurate as fuck.
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>>737047084
It’s all over now.
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>>737044039
Persona is actual dogshit
I'd never play Persona with Parryslop but I'm glad someone stole their thunder in such a big way by simply making french version of Persona.
I love to hate on this game too but it's not because I respect JRPGs to any degree.
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>>737041256
Cope & seethe
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>>737044039
most anime and jrpgs, mangas are written like shit, the pacing is laughable, character arcs are rushed with 0 development and dialogue is unbearable
There's some good anime out there, but it's not as highly rated as some other animu slop because weebs are brainrotted by anime tropes
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>>737042190
There are publishers like EA that own your studio and tell you what to do and then there are publishers like Kepler which you hire/work together with and if you don't like what they do you walk away.
I can kinda see why you'd be okay with the 2nd one as an indie. It's not like the self-publish thing is a good line either, because CDPR and Valve are indie by that standard.
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>>737047546
>Its parry slop its parry slop!!!
>Youre saying this because youtube comments I saw said that!!!
Imagine acting like a style of RPG (QTE style execution for moves) is a sudden degeneration in the genre when Mario RPGS have been doing the same thing for DECADES. These kids do not play games, they play games, but they do not play videogames.
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>>737042579
>borderline unplayable
Do you have a disability of some kind?
>i dont get the hype around it.
I think you need a certain level of life experience to fully appreciate it, but you might just be a bit too dull to get it, so don't worry about it. You're not the target audience and that's okay.
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>>737044264
holy shit this game looks ass. how is the textures lower res than fucking half life 2?
the gameplay, pacing and story is better than almost every jrpg i ever played i just wish it wasnt so fucking ugly honestly
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JRPG have always been the most juvenile trash ever created. I played Chrono Trigger few years ago and it was mediocre as hell, compared to someone with a solid CRPG background like me?
So even if this game is the best JRPG or whatever it doesn't mean shit to me. Best of of some pile of shit is stills shit sorry. Will never play your slop, now suck my dick.
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>>737044039
Normalfags don't know about that game because it comes from a small studio that doesn't really reach those people.
>treating it as some completely new game genre
That's some retarded nonsense you've dreamed up.
People love the game because of the quality of the freshness of its gameplay(reeee that one Mario game 20 years ago had something similar)the quality of it's writing, music and themes.
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>>737047756
Agree, and so is E33
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Because...?
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>>737048075
So why are you in a thread for ARPGs and JRPGs??? God don’t tell me you feel some notion of authority here lmfao
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>>737047721
When somebody has completely given up on something and is wallowing in despair he will attack whatever might pull them out of their depression.
They thought western studios couldn't produce something this soulful anymore.
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>>737048261
But E33 has some soul/identity even if you don't like it. It's instantly recognizable.
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>Devs clearly love JRPGs and say their game is an homage to them
>Ragebait niggers try to make it japan vs the west
Really?
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>>737048679
They're a fan of boomers JRPG, they don't really like the genre. They are fake JRPG lovers.
The creator said he dropped Rebirth because open world is uninteresting to him and he also dropped Metaphor because he said he is tired of the Persona formula.
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>>737048589
All you are saying is "the rest is worse", which is nothing
it had something visually unique, until the world becomes empty
it had a promising story, until it completely fell apart
it had 2-3 decent (just decent) characters, until they weren't at all
>>737048614
I'll celebrate when we get something good, and it hasn't happened so far, gay
all you are celebrating is the achievement of having no standards whatsover
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>>737048908
Compared to when I had to rely on Square strictly for decent console RPG releases and if they dropped FFVIII, X, XI, XII, XIII (why did XIII have good sequels???), well fuck you and begging for ports, yeah I’d take this any fucking day of the week, easily. You fucking kids do not understand.
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>>737048965
I love it because I played it and it was really good. Stop making your personality about consuming media. Disconnect from the Internet for at least an hour before bed and an hour after waking up
Can you do that?
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>>737049253
Nigger if a game is good, it is good, BG3 was begrudgingly celebrated on this board, because it was UNDENIABLE. Picrel is how it did against a vastly more popular IP in the same genre and a genre veteran.
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Name 3 games that you like.
Can you do that?
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>>737049712
I’m so thankful fags like you got filtered because you do not deserve the gem of this games evil route coupled with Durge.
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>>737049893
Only if you're a normalfag who doesn't actually play video games and only follows what's trending on twatter (the marketing platform for scams). Or just own a PS5 and have no choice but to play only scams.
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>>737050116
You literally do hate crimes on slaves, you did not play this game LMFAO
>>737050396
Sorry that you feel the need to have your worldview constantly coddled and masturbated, because it isn’t coddled enough on here for your taste.
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>>737049427
I'm the second anon you quoted
I recently liked Absolum, The Thaumaturge (flawed but ok) and Space Marine 2 (which I replayed with another friend)(it's stupid fun in a good way, the game not the friend)
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>>737047079
>worst implementation of UE5 in the world
Definitely seen worse, maybe you should play more games before making retarded claims because you're mad at a video game you didn't play.
>cant see fucking shit, the graphics are all blurry and shitty
>>Blind thirdy can't see, no one else has this issue unless their hardware is dogshit (being a poor third world faggot, this is you)
>combat is the worst in gaming history
More indepth than literally any JRPG. Retarded lie.
>its turn based slop mixed with parry slop
You already mentioned the combat, why do it twice? Again, fucking retarded point still more indepth than whatever (You) played.
>the story is about a depressed frenchman smoking a cigarette
You didn't play the game. Get the fuck outta here, only (You) you're getting from me.
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>>737041256
>Crimson Desert and Expedition 33
>Focus on creativity
>Let alone detail
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>>737050680
You’re not even trying anymore. Picrel is the slaves for reference, deep gnomes, they were pretty on the nose. Really surprised a libshit corp like WTC let some of this shit fly with how on the nose it is.
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>YEAH ILL SHOW YOU BY NOT PLAYING GOTD
Okay lol
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>>737041256
You could call them games for people who actually like and play games. I've never understood how damn weird and tarded you would have to be to spend loads of time doing something you hate. Unc wisdom: Get a life.
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>>737041256
"Buckbreakers," given the effect they've had on the zesty bucks still complaining about them.
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>>737051135
>hey guys e33 is like crimson shart!!!!
lol no
>well wasn’t bg3 exactly like veilguard?
I’m not going for this shit, actually say something that is bad about the game that isn’t “woke”. Like the game makes low level DnD fun, do you know how much ass low level DnD is? The game is better than what it is adapting, that is a Kubrick’s Shining level of execution, minus a shitty novel coddling an alcoholics delusions that sacrificing his life would ever repair the damage he did to his family and would only free HIM.
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>>737051087
>trite troon cope
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>>737051470
>just eat the apple around the worm, anon
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>>737051538
sorry I don't play gay, ugly, woke, pozzed games. Deal with it
your gay fap material isn't appealing to normal people
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>>737051527
Listen Ranhseet, you've been proven wrong for a year and have yet to give a single proof the 200M chink money went to E33.
It went to Kepler, the publisher who owns 10 studios. Give proof they gave all that money to Sandfall (who they don't own).
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Tranny mod having a meltdown again kek
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>>737051623
No it’s not because it’s some ineffable quality that changes between you and the next guy that says it. It’s just a buzzword that means “doesn’t affirm me enough”. Woke is a completely meaningless criticism that just means it makes you angry and serves as a way for you to virtue signal to other rubes to be angry.
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>>737051804
>No it’s not because it’s some ineffable quality that changes between you and the next guy that says it. It’s just a buzzword that means “doesn’t affirm me enough”. Woke is a completely meaningless criticism that just means it makes you angry and serves as a way for you to virtue signal to other rubes to be angry.
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>>737051796
>THE WEBSITE IS OUT TO GET ME
The raped.
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>>737051739
Ah yea might bad it's ONLY the publisher that got the money. You know the people responsible for all the marketing and making sure game gets good reviews and sells well. Teehee my bad anon I guess it's an indie game :)
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>>737051835
>just came by to say I love your seething
>Keep doing it; it's funny to watch you bitch and cry over video games
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>>737049915
>people somehow can't see i
People can see it and nobody cares. You get a game of AAA scope but designed to be as fun as possible without any of the typical AAA bloat, microtransactions DEI or always online bullshit, made by a small enough studio to maintain a clear vision and costing half the price of your an average AAA game to purchase. Nobody cares that they cut some corners using the asset store for climbing animations or the texture of some cliff face. Nobody gives a single shit.
If your preference is that only AAA makes big games now with all their token bloat and that small devs stick to low ambition roguelike deckbuilders then you do you I guess.
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triggered kek
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>>737041256
Crimson Desert is nowhere near as bad as E33 was. E33 had 20+ concurrent threads 24/7, and you no one even talks about the game, they just call everyone brown. Whereas the catalogue is not literally flooded with Crimson Desert spam. I can tune the Crimson Desert threads out, to the point that I think I've only even seen 1 or 2 of them, while the E33 spam was so bad that I started keeping track of how many threads there were only to find out that it had 20+ concurrent threads 24/7 for a month, and then all the threads mysteriously vanished overnight beginning June 1st, so that by June 2nd there were only 2 threads left. Every single person in the entire world all suddenly decided to stop talking about E33 on June 1st of last year.
I hope I got the point across. I didn't play Crimson Desert, but if E33 is an "industry plant", which is pretty much is, then Crimson Desert is a guy who is still applying for the job, maybe with a reference from a friend. That's how vastly different it is. They're not even in the same universe in terms of being undeservedly shilled, because I didn't even notice that Crimson Desert was being shilled.
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>>737053616
I won, because I'm White and I'm able to notice 1) that E33 was just a "mid" 7/10 game, and 2) that there were 20+ concurrent threads on that catalogue which mysteriously ended beginning June 1st. I also haven't even noticed the Crimson Desert shilling, because whatever it may be, it's not even 1/100th of the shilling that E33 received.
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You're proving that everything I've said is correct, btw.
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>trigger babs
LOL
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>>737041993
>how the fuck does that apply to either of these?
E33 was promoted as a small team of 33 indie devs when in actuality it had the backing, not only of a very large studio, but also daddy's venture capitalist firm, the French government itself, and China.
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>>737054472
the industry promotes great $50 games made by all White dev teams with no MTX that contain no niggers or faggots in the party?
sounds to me like we won, anon! what the fuck are you doing, lets celebrate!
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>>737054603
I actually think it's more "single player, offline BDO" considering it's the BDO people, but I wouldn't know, because I haven't played it and I have zero interest in playing it. I'm just telling you that, objectively, *if* Crimson Desert is being shilled, it is not even 1/100th of how much E33 got shilled.
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if you don't enjoy both of these games you are a FAGGOT
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>>737054869
please refrain from mentioning literally tranny faggotslop in the same sentence as pure KINO such as Expedition 33, thank you!
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Reminder that E33 does have brown people, and it also has cuckoldry, and one of the shoehorned romance options is used goods to the extreme. The other romance option is brown-adjacent. Any everyone in the game is ugly.
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>>737055021
Right, Marathon *was* being shilled, back before the plagiarism debacle and right before release, and because it was getting shilled (and because Concord is the new TORtanic) people were clowning on it. I don't understand what this has to do with Crimson Desert. People were clowning on Marathon.
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>>737055108
I am White though. And as a White person, I genuinely think that anyone who sucks E33 cock without being able to acknowledge the true reality of it being an industry plant is quite clearly not White themselves, no matter how much they type that they are on 4chan.
But once again, this thing you're doing right now is proving my original post in this thread correct. No one talks about E33. All anyone says about it is "you're brown" unless you say it's a 10/10 masterpiece, the greatest video game of all time, which it just isn't. It's not a 10/10 and it's not even close to the greatest video game of all time.
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>If you can't read anything that's barely even longer than a Tweet, you're brown. That's just the way it is.
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>>737041256
e33 and crimson desert are totally different games, no comparable in any way shape of form.
e33 is a pure soul, 10/10 game.
crimson desert is your average souless bugslop with a massive map. creativity my ass. faggot director.
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>>737054587
>not only of a very large studio
which studio?
> daddy's venture capitalist firm,
proofs?
> the French government itself
they give grants to all french games
>China
gave money to kepler who published dozens of games
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>>737055478
Look, guy, I already told you Crimson Desert is not "my" game. I've never played it and I have zero interest in playing it. I'm just telling you that Marathon threads were about shitting on Marathon, they weren't about Crimson Desert. How do I know? Because I loved shitting on Marathon and not a single person ever said anything about Crimson Desert in those threads.
Is Crimson Desert also being shilled? Possibly. However, if Crimson Desert is being shilled, it's not even 1/100th of how much E33 got shilled, because I haven't even noticed it.
>>737055542
I'm only telling you the truth.
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>>737055593
refer to >>737054687
you made it 50% of the way there anon but you have failed. you are shitting on a game you haven't played like a melanated subhuman. absolutely fucking pathetic.
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>>737055629
can you support your claim that it's true in any way?
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>>737055693
I'm sure (You) could go back in the archives and view the sheer quantity of E33 threads, but you'd have a hard time piecing together how many of them were concurrently active. (You) will also notice a very steep dropoff in the number of E33 threads created beginning June 1st of last year. Because that's what happened.
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>>737055790
>(You) will also notice a very steep dropoff in the number of E33 threads created beginning June 1st of last year.
no (You) wont because there were a handful of seethe threads EVERY SINGLE DAY at least until 2026. there are still seethe threads every day just not as many.
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>>737055804
I accept your concession.
>and a shill
I'm not shilling anything. I'm telling the truth about a the most shilled game of all time, no contest.
>>737055814
>no (You) wont because there were a handful of seethe threads EVERY SINGLE DAY at least until 2026
Yes, (You) will notice a massive drop off in the number of E33 threads being created after June 1st of last year, because prior to that there were 20+ concurrent E33 threads going 24/7, and after that there are barely any. Maybe 1-2, sometimes zero.
>>737055895
The proof is there if (You) wish to search for it. But you don't. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can show a shill the truth, but you can't make him believe.
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>>737041430
I don't want to play a personal vision. I want to play a videogame that I will enjoy.
>>737042090
Anon, Steam is not a publisher. Steam is a digital distributor. Publishers are not defined as selling your game. Publishers fund developers and have an impact on their development process. E33 had a company that funded them and had rights to control their development. That is why they are not indie. They had a de-facto publisher.
>>737042383
Steam does not manufacture your games, either. You're really showing that it is you who misunderstands what "indie" means.
Also, Gamestop does actually handle distribution, since you give them the games and they send them to their stores and sell them where they can maximize profits.
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>>737055629
The CR threads were actually really quiet for an upcoming AAA and aside from retards seething about the imaginary shills there wasn't much going on. I am pretty sure that the majority of posts were literally those autists arguing with people just wanting to talk about the game.
E33 on the other hand is literally the game of a freemason's nepobaby made un unreal and looked like shit. I didn't notice any of the threads because my interest level, like yours, was zero. But I can imagine the astroturfing.
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>>737041430
yep. unfun garbage full of microtransactions and committee design is honest about being a soulless cash grab. these kinds of games meanwhile exploit your trust by taking your money in exchange for a good product you can actually have fun with. extremely scummy.
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>>737041647
If you read any medieval literature you'd realize that medieval stories and reality are entirely different. It's ridiculous and retarded to have 80% brown "muh realism" instead of shit that makes Skyrim seem a historical documentary in comparison. Lord of the rings is perhaps the only good example of a story that managed to capture medieval creativity.. partially. 300 is perhaps the best example of how to do it, but it isn't a game.
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I don't know what it is, but I always put it in the "do not play" list.
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>>737056000
>most shilled game of all time
Wrong, neither of this games had the backing of the actual U.S. military industrial complex like CoD does, nor a Sony or Microsoft media campaign, they cannot afford to pay off every single reviewer in the industry like Bungie can. E33 had little none of the benefits that established veteran studios have, and it still blew out your fucking overmarketed garbage.
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>>737056036
>Your insistence that Crimson Desert shilling wasn’t that bad is literally enough
I'm just telling you the truth, anon. That's all this is. E33 shilling filling the entire catalogue for a month straight and then miraculously ended, cold turkey beginning June 1st. And people are still saying "you're brown" as the only conversation about the game. That's not even in the same universe as whatever shilling for Crimson Desert that might be taking place, which I honestly haven't even noticed because there aren't 20+ concurrent threads about it in the catalogue 24/7. And the threads you listed which you believe were Crimson Desert threads were actually Marathon shitpost threads, so I don't think we're even living in the same reality. And once again, I have zero interest in Crimson Desert. I haven't played it and I never will. I just also haven't noticed the shilling for it. It's not even 1/100th as bad as E33's shilling was.
>>737056118
It was a 7/10 game that became the most shilled game of all time, the very definition of "industry plant" (see: >>737054587), and the shills pretend not to see it for some reason.
>>737056108
Yeah, see? This guy knows what is truly happening. This guy lives in actual reality. I can't personally vouch one way or the other about what's going on inside Crimson Desert threads, all I can say is that the "shilling", if it is even happening, is not bad enough for me to even have noticed that it's happening. Like, maybe there are 1 or 2 Crimson Desert threads here, I literally haven't even noticed them, so to hear Crimson Desert shilling be compared anywhere near E33 shilling is ludicrous to me, because Crimson Desert shilling is not even 1/100th as bad as E33 shilling was.
>I am pretty sure that the majority of posts were literally those autists arguing with people just wanting to talk about the game.
That would make sense, the E33 "fanbase" on 4chan is rabid. Easily the worst fanbase in all of vidya and it hasn't even been a year
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>>737056445
If he actually read and wasn’t illiterate, he could have just said that the story would be adapted for a modern era but have classical trappings like a modern adaptation of Othello, but no, he’a retarded.
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>>737042863
It's the opposite. The more you progress the more shit gets deleted because you get more and more tools to break the game. The stuff you can't beat legitimately reasonably is all optional and you can come back an hour later to one shot them.
Arguably the bigger issue is how OP you can get. When I pay again I just won't use maelle for instance, but the others are not that far behind.
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>>737056398
>Wrong
You're totally right. It has 20+ concurrent threads on /v/ 24/7, which ended very abruptly on June 1st, and it won every single video game award ever, including Indie, while having a budget in excess of $10 million dollars, with the backing of China, the French government, daddy's venture capitalist firm, and multiple studios that the work was outsourced to, and the *only* conversation surrounding E33 this entire time has been "you're brown", no one ever says anything about the game, and this all happened completely organically.
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>>737056620
i quite literally cannot even IMAGINE being this buckbroken and raped. if someone literally burned my fucking house to the ground i wouldn't be as assraped as you are about WHITE MAN KINO AKA EXPEDITION 33
B U C K B R O K E N
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>>737056620
>daddy's
you bitter fags always give away how miserable you are, I know some fans of e33 got annoyed by your incessant crying but I've personally found it delightful to watch you queers be so publicly miserable for so long, I hope you never stop.
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don't mind me lads, going to dump my Broche folder to shit on these BUCKBROKEN faggots
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>>737056485
>That's all this is. E33 shilling filling the entire catalogue for a month straight and then miraculously ended, cold turkey beginning June 1st.
I don't know what you're talking about, the shilling never ended.
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>>737056620
>China is cooperating with betrayers of Western hegemony!!!!
>What are they doing
>… manufacturing toys.
ITS OVER ITS ALL OVER YOU GUYS OH MY FUCKING GOD
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>>737044039
It just 20 years for the west to make a passable equivalent of a jrpg anon. The feeling is not "oh my god this is unique", it's "oh my god we can do it too, after all, finally!"
The hope is it becomes a genre and saves gaming when the Japanese invariably try to one-up them
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mind status? BROKEN!
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>>737056485
People were calling me webm guy or something because of all the webms I made(alongside others of course) and spammed, while talking about the game. I was in most of the threads since I'm a NEET who was really looking forward to the game since I liked BDO's art design(bought it just for that, played for maybe like 15 hours, and quit since it was an MMO).
I noticed literally zero marketing. Most of the posters hadn't even heard of the game until January and you can see that reflected in the stocks kek. I'd love to know what their marketing budget was because they did a shit job at marketing which is based since it sold pretty well anyway.
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>>737056918
it's ok anon i received the same treatment all of last year over E33 and i've received it this year for CD. all because i am a humble White man who genuinely loves great video games.
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can someone summarize this thread for me
is it just 300+ posts of seething about games that aren't anime fuckdoll simulator being popular and then calling everyone indian or discord raiders?
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Desertchads and E33gods won
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>>737056983
Yes, and tomorrow they will make another thread seething about E33
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>>737056568
>post e33 playtime or tie the fucking noose, tendie.
I see the E33 cultists are really melting down now. They do NOT like the truth.
Nope, not a Tendie either. I'm just a straight White male ("boomer") who has played JRPGs for his entire life, and E33 is a 7/10 game, nothing remarkable.
I pirated the game and I deleted it long ago, but here is my save file: https://files.catbox.moe/y2v3ud.sav
>>737056627
I'm only telling the truth. Anyone getting mad at me is upset because *they* are getting "blown out"
>>737056696
I'm just telling the truth and describing things that happened. I don't understand why you're getting upset about it.
>>737056748
Some people are upset by the truth. It is what it is.
>>737056782
True, but it was really bad for that first month when 4chan came back up. And the 20+ concurrent threads 24/7 ended abruptly on June 1st, as if it was a contract.
>>737056795
Thank you for noticing. I am indeed right, and I am only telling the truth. It's impossible to even begin to comprehend how or why people are going haywire about nothing but the truth.
>>737056918
>I noticed literally zero marketing.
Yeah, me neither. I'm not saying it's not happening, I just didn't notice it, and because I didn't notice it that makes it nowhere near even 1/100th of the shilling that E33 had. That one guy who was upset about Crimson Desert was describing Marathon shitpost threads, so I don't even think he knows why he's upset, he just knows he's upset.
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>>737057025
/v/ loved e33, but the number of schizos a game gets is proportional to how popular it is, so it just has some people who've been seething about it every day for a year, whereas the fans moved on because it's a single player narrative game and has been discussed to death. can't speak for crimson desert because i didn't play it or check out the threads.
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>>737057114
imagine replying to 8 people and none of them read any of it, top fucking jej
BUCKBROKEN AND RAPED KEKAROO
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>mass replying
uh oh melty
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>>737057209
>>mass replying
If there are several people melting down at me simultaneously (or a couple people samefagging), I'm going to reply to them. I've just about had my fill though.
>>737057254
E33 was a 7/10. It is what it is.
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>>737056853
I am both whiter and greater than you will ever be. Go on and tell me I'm raped while using our internet.
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>>737057404
is that so?
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>>737057838
based
>>737058134
/v/ would've been blown away by e33 any year because its presentation (music, story, visuals) are amazing. The gameplay is too easy and betrays that it's the studio's first game. A year later, it's still one of my favorite games but I'm comfortable admitting that objectively, it's like an 8/10 game, with your personal preference elevating it or downgrading it a couple of points. you probably think being here "pre-covid" is some oldfag checkpoint, like the other election tourists.
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>>737058351
you both lost and got fucking raped why are you STILL running your fucking cocksuckers? mental illness on full display.
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>>737058134
Pre-covid /v/ loved Playstation, made fun of Nintendo, hated GAAS games, didn't play gacha, and was happy to spend $60 on a brand new AAA game.
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>>737057838
Good man. I still think E33 is overrrated.
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>>737052404
Your reasoning is backwards and it's weird that you see it this way. It isn't the amount but rather the pattern of engagement that sticks out to me. I don't automatically assume something is astroturfed the more it gets talked about. Expedition 33 was released with limited fanfare, hype built up gradually after people started playing it and then rapidly snowballed. I would very much expect to see a normal distribution peaking some time a few weeks after launch if you were to map out the total mentions of Expedition 33 on this board. Crimson Desert was the opposite - multiple bump limit threads per day talking about the unreleased game which nobody here had played yet, and rapidly fell off once it was released.
You can have your own opinion about which of those patterns seems legitimate vs artificial but the answer feels obvious to me. I'm not saying CD is shilled either for what it's worth, not with any degree of confidence at least, but if I had to pick one that's where I'd lean.
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>>737058574
>nothing came out
>also a good game winning lots of awards must've been fake
you guys need to get your stories straight
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>>737058635
how would you know if it was organic since you didn't play the game and thus don't know if it deserved the awards or not?
you are buckbroken and raped btw, incase you forgot somehow.
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>>737058730
why is lorien so kino in every pic
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>>737058880
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>>737051549
what is this cope
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>>737058134
2006 here. It's alright to enjoy E33. /v/ fucking loved E33... a suspicious amount. That's the issue. It's the most astroturfed and shilled game of all time. All anyone says about it is "you're brown". Nothing about E33's reception is organic, which is a shame because I think it could have stood on its own merits as a niche Mario RPG clone, but instead it became an industry plant game with far too much positive press for how niche and mid it is.
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>>737059000
>2006 here.
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>>737059000
>industry plant
the western video game industry now promotes great games made by White devs sold for $50 that contain White parties, heterosexual relationships, and zero faggots?
sounds like we won, it's time to party!!
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>>737041256
flockjobs
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>>737058505
>Your reasoning is backwards
It's not.
>Expedition 33 was released with limited fanfare, hype built up gradually after people started playing it and then rapidly snowballed
No, 4chan was down and it took a small little while for the bots to recalibrate or whatever, and all of June was massive shilldom, and beginning June 1st is abruptly stopped.
>Crimson Desert was the opposite - multiple bump limit threads per day talking about the unreleased game which nobody here had played yet, and rapidly fell off once it was released.
Sure. I just didn't notice any Crimson Desert shilling at all, which means that it was not even 1/100th of the shilling that E33 got.
>You can have your own opinion about which of those patterns seems legitimate vs artificial
It's more than that. I've never in my entire life seen 20+ concurrent threads 24/7 for the same one video game until E33 came along. It's the most shilled video game of all time, by a mile. By several miles, even. So it's just strange to me to see E33's shilling compared to Crimson Desert's shilling, when I didn't notice that Crimson Desert shilling was even happening.
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>>737059215
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the damage these frogs did to brown psyches on /v/ needs to be studied.
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>>737059070
>the western video game industry now promotes
I will remind the audience that it's clearly a masonic game and we don't know what sort of connections were leveraged behind the scenes. I will also remind the audience that people can be bought.
>now promotes great games made by White devs
Outsourced to the same Indian studios that AAA outsources to
>sold for $50
Okay?
>that contain White parties
Well, Lune isn't White
>heterosexual relationships
A shoehorned romance mechanic that only appears with Verso, which kinda makes you feel like you're cucking Gustave, and Sciel is major redflag used goods
>and zero faggots
there might be some light yuri elements between Sciel and Lune, but for the most part I don't recall any faggots
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>>737059473
nobody
is
reading
all
that
lmao
you lost and got RAPED LMFAO
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>>737059215
>I didn't notice so that means my perception is fact
I look forward to seeing you in future E33 threads
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>>737059553
>>I didn't notice so that means my perception is fact
If there are only 1 or 2 or maybe even 3 Crimson Desert threads that are easily ignorable, that still pales in comparison to the 20+ concurrent threads that E33 had 24/7 for an entire month. They are not even in the same universe in terms of being shilled.
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can someone explain why E33 detractors are too low iq to read roman numerals?
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>>737041298
Stellar blade
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>>737059295
>devs all say for those who come after as they accept their award
>devs all say tomorrow comes after they accept their award
>for a game where everyone dies and you just delete the world and families they fought to protect
i dont think even the french knew what the fuck their writer was writing
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>>737059709
Even I like E33. It was just a 7/10. It wasn't a 10/10, and there should be more conversation surrounding the game than just "you're brown", but the shills did irreparable damage to the conversation of their own game and E33's entire legacy is as some weird sort of culture war pawn that brown people use when larping as white people. It didn't need to be any of this. It could have just been "that pretty decent western JRPG that gets recommended to people who like JRPGs", but no, what it actually became is "the single greatest game of all time, or else you're brown"
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>>737059000
fucking lmao, maybe born in 2006. That I believe
This just screams "it became too mainstream so I got suspicious and now I hate it; I wish it was more obscure so I could have more s-sophisticated taste..."
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>>737059925
>maybe born in 2006
Nope, been on 4chan since 2006.
>This just screams "it became too mainstream so I got suspicious and now I hate it; I wish it was more obscure so I could have more s-sophisticated taste..."
That's a lot of projection, anon. I just miss that first week or two after 4chan came back online, when you could actually discuss this game. Now you can't say anything about it and the entire conversation for the past year has been "you're brown" and that's it. When the shills are so rabid that it destroys actual conversation, there is a problem. It didn't need to be like this. I've said multiple times I think that the game could have stood on its own merits as a pretty decent Mario RPG clone, but that's just not what became of it. It turned into a massively shilled culture war pawn, nothing else.
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>>737059925
the real problem imo is that mainstream is hard to discuss critically
>all criticism will be drowned out by casuals who just want you to consume uncritically, as any criticism assumes you think the game is bad
Basically, casuals ruin anything
>people with their JUST ENJOY IT
>people with their MUH I HAVE A LIFE NOW LET ME WAGESLAVE
>muh just a game bro folks
all trash who have mouths and should not speak but still feel the need to be heard
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>>737060143
>When the shills are so rabid
nice revisionism but the antishills made it this way.
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>>737060143
>Mario RPG clone
holy fucking kek the tendoid outs itself. post bathroom scale with a timestamp IMMEDIATELY.
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>>737060309
>nice revisionism but the antishills made it this way.
Not revisionism, anon. Like I said, you could actually talk about this game for the first week or two after 4chan came back online. Then the shills arrived, and you couldn't say ANYTHING about the game unless you were deepthroating its cock and begging for its cum. And now we're to a point where all you retards say is "you're brown", that is literally the entire conversation surrounding E33 and that's what the conversation surrounding E33 has been for the past year. Testament that E33 is nothing but an industry plant. It got too shilled, the most shilled game of all time, and now the lowest common denominators are carrying the shill's torch, because their entire marketing strategy was to call anyone talking about the game "brown"
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>>737060365
>holy fucking kek the tendoid outs itself
You already tried this, anon. See: >>737058505
I'm not a Tendie. The last Nintendo product I owned was a Wii.
>>737060491
Right, but (Paper) Mario RPGs have both the parry and the QTE. Most games have one or the other. There's also games like Sea of Stars but that's extremely new in the grand scheme of things so I didn't bother mentioning it. It's most closely a Mario RPG clone. But once again, you're just proving that E33fags are just rabid seethers, trying to nitpick every single little thing, even when someone says they liked the game.
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>>737060653
>i liked the game but it's a problem for me that other people liked it too
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>>737061070
That's not what anyone said.
It's a huge problem that E33's legacy is "you're brown". It could have been known as a decent """indie""" JRPG, but instead it became known as the biggest industry plant and most artificially shilled and astroturfed video game of all time, by a very wide margin, whose entire online discourse consists of "you're brown". And it was the paid shills who made it this way, because for the first week or two, before the paid shills and bots and whatever discovered that 4chan was back up, White people could actually talk about the good and bad parts of the game with each other.
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>>737059215
>I just didn't notice any Crimson Desert shilling at all
You didn't notice it because it was short lived and over as soon as anyone actually played the game. You couldn't miss the Expedition 33 hype because it went on for weeks and months after it was released because people played it, liked it, liked it, talked about it and then more people played it.
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>>737061049
>it’s a 7/10
>but it’s a clone
>I’m not being patronizing!!!
You talk like a prison bitch.
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>>737061317
Well, no, it definitely has more to do with the sheer level of shilldom, of which no game has ever been shilled as hard as E33 in the entire history of gaming, but I know you're an E33fag, so you're never going to hear the truth.
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>>737061294
nah nobody's going to remember bitchfits on /v/, ask any fan of the game and they won't mention any of the shit you're crying about when they talk about their memory of the game. Which should please you, since you "liked" it :)
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>e33trannies got raped and lost
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>>737061431
>>it’s a 7/10
True.
>>but it’s a clone
Also true, in the way that people colloquially use the term "clone" in video game conversation.
>>I’m not being patronizing!!!
Also true.
I can't understand why you're seething.
>>737061451
>ask any fan of the game
I haven't met any. I don't think there are any. The only people who exist that talk about E33 use it as a culture war pawn and they either say "you're brown" and nothing else, or they use it to shit on Square Enix. That's all E33 is to *anyone* who might call themselves a fan of it.
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>>737061669
>i liked this game, it's a 7/10
>it also has no fans
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>>737061669
>That's all E33 is to *anyone* who might call themselves a fan of it.
it is literally THE highest user scored game OF ALL FUCKING TIME. if you think that's because people hate Square Enix you are the most vantablack shitskin on the face of the fucking planet
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>>737061669
You are being a pedantic gap toothed prison bitch with backhanded praise. You can’t even be honest about a game you clearly think is bad because you are afraid of getting clowned on for it, you are literally gaped.
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no one argue with me on this
>8-10/10 are personal preference scores
>1-7 are general audience scores
>a 7/10 is the best a game can be, the absolute bog standard full price game that is 100% worth its value and a general audience success
>but an 8/10-10/10 for me is guaranteed to be boring as shit for someone out there
therefore x33 is in fact a deserved GOTY
but it is so insufferably bad for ME in some parts that i dont know how anyone can argue that it isnt a 7/10
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>>737061669
Please never stop performing for me.
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>>737062091
he never will, anon. it's going to get tastier and tastier for us as the years go on.
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>>737042903
Conservatives have always given more to charity within the same systems as leftists.
Leftism has no correlation with altruism, just narcissism.
You could essentially say leftism is a sort of moral parasitism. The leftist offers nothing directly, but by advocating for other people to give he manages to satisfy his moral obligation at no genuine cost to himself.
This of course ignores the fact that in the vast majority of these cases the leftist are not just not among the benefactors in question, but are themselves among the benefactors of the purported redistribution and are in fact engaging in competition for the resources.
Truly the most slimy and disgusting of Allah's creations. I remember when that "meatsweat chud" guy got stabbed and all his "friends" started gofundmes, not to help with funeral costs but just in the hopes of profiting off of the situation.
Regarding leftists and might makes right, leftists are the only fucks dumb enough to think it's a belief that must be "adhered to" rather than an objective statement, a universal law as with supply and demand and other such things they think they can legislate out of existence.
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Alright, E33 drones, I think I'm done. I don't want to be doing this all day. You got brainwashed one way or the other, and that's who you're always gonna be. You are unwilling to see truth and accept it for what it is.
>>737061802
>>i liked this game, it's a 7/10
Yup. I was actually talking about the game before the shills happened. I liked it. It was decent.
>>it also has no fans
Not on 4chan. Haven't met any in real life either. On 4chan it has drones. It has retards who made it so that the only E33 conversation is "you're brown". That's this entire thread. That's ever thread with E33 involved.
>>737061904
>it is literally THE highest user scored game OF ALL FUCKING TIME
It is indeed the most artificially shilled game of all time. That is absolutely true.
>if you think that's because people hate Square Enix
I'm sure that E33 being the single most shilled game of all time has *something* to do with people hating Square Enix, but I don't think that's the only thing involved. There's also it being a culture war pawn, hence the entire conversation surrounding this game devolving to nothing other than "you're brown". There's also, of course, the money and the perception. E33 had a movie deal before it even released. Totally normal for an Indie game with no connections at all and only 33 people working on it, right? Gotta keep up appearances for the long con.
>you are the most vantablack shitskin on the face of the fucking planet
You're doing it again. You guys keep proving every single thing I've said.
Also I'm White. Incredibly pale, too. Extremely White.
>>737062057
>You are being a pedantic
No, the guy nitpicking about Mario RPG as if it's some sort of "gotcha" is being pedantic. I'm just telling the truth.
>You can’t even be honest about a game you clearly think is bad
I thought it was a decent 7/10. I've said this multiple times. It could have stood on its own merits as a niche title, but that's not where we are now. That ship has sailed.
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>>737062272
the conversation around the game doesn't change the quality of the game, your admittance that that's what happened for you only displays that you're a retard. i think the undertale/deltarune fanbase is annoying as fuck but I have no judgment on the games as I haven't played them.
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>>737062624
>the conversation around the game doesn't change the quality of the game
Right. It's a 7/10. If I were to grade E33 based on the conversation around the game (which is literally only "you're brown"), then it'd be a 2/10.
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>>737062725
the game was discussed to death over the first few months because it's a short single player story based rpg. the conversation became "you're brown" because people made threads seething about it every day once the actual discussion died out and "you're brown" clearly pissed off said seethers, as it still pisses you off. try being a less easily baited schizo and discussions that cause you to melt down won't become so widespread. you say you haven't talked to anyone in real life about this game but it sounds like you simply don't talk to anyone in real life at all.
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>>737062714
That's such a weird thing to get hung up about. Are there any other stylistic choices that irk you? What if the eyes are slightly larger or arm/leg proportions are out of wack? Does it set off some uncanny valley effect?
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>>737062351
>show me where anyone said this itt
NTA
definitely not in this thread but ive been kicked from some social circles for literally saying "i think it deserved its GOTY at the VGAs, but the story was trash"
there are literally people who will cut off contact over the idea that it didnt deserve a full sweep at the geoff keighley show
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>>737062894
The "you're brown" conversation began 1 or 2 weeks after its release. Your revisionism is wrong.
>as it still pisses you off
That's the wrong characterization. It's more like seeing a decent 7/10 girl ruin herself by covering her body in tattoos and getting all kinds of piercings and turning ghetto and getting into rap music and turning into a literal whore.
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>>737063173
tattoos would change the person, discussion doesn't change the game, so it seems like you're just a bitter faggot because you got called out. i look forward to seeing you in more of these threads in the future.
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>>737063272
You’re just saying shit and you can’t even stand on your actual feelings, a “clone” is not a 7/10, and this game is not a fucking “clone” lol. God I hope nobody in your life relies on you for decision making.
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>>737063357
>doesnt reflext upon his experiences
>just consumes stuff in the moment
if you have adhd i can imagine a game you never intend to replay is probably incredible
but get past the the honeymoon period and the hype and you end up realizing "this was all a little overblown"
If you dont think
>protagonist conveniently has amnesia in a way that allows the plot to matter except when it doesnt need to"
is the most contrived shit all i can say is good for you but your wits are a bit mid
mainstream even
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>>737062260
This. Every fucking game on /v/ gets hate, but most fans of other games know to ignore the shitposters and just talk around them and the thread just shifts to discussing the game. E33fags NEED to force positive concensus on this game for whatever reason and take the bait every time with constant "lol seething", "still mindbroken", or some variation of "You're brown", making the thread revolve around complaining about haters and subsequently going to shit. Almost every e33 thread is like this now
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>>737063556
>protagonist conveniently has amnesia in a way that allows the plot to matter except when it doesnt need to"
It's not inconsistent with the setting, which shows multiple people getting painted over and having their minds controlled.
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>>737062351
Fair point.
Like >>737063118 said some people worship this game which is why it's insanely divisive. I remember dating a girl for a couple months who was obnoxiously obsessed with E33 and got genuinely angry that I wasn't as into it.
She was also trash and needed me to beat several bosses for her.
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>>737062930
im sure but theres not much i can think of at the moment. If the game was more stylized or had a different sort of art direction im not sure it would matter as much but the odd proportions on normal humans combined with a lot of really stiff animations is extremely jarring for me to the point that it was distracting when i was watching a friend of mine play.
Its the sort of thing like having motion smoothing on a tv. I swear to god that a lot of people arent able to tell that its on but the second i see a tv with it on its noticeable and makes for a worse experience. Or like TAA being a smeary and blurry mess. If you dont notice it, good on you, happy youre enjoying [PRODUCT] but i cant unsee it so its just a constant thing thats bothersome.
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>>737063398
>tattoos would change the person, discussion doesn't change the game
I never said discussion changes the game. You said that E33's entire legacy being "you're brown" pisses me off. That's the wrong characterization. It's like seeing a decent girl turn into a bottom of the barrel ghetto bitch who is also a literal whore. Just a bunch of wasted potential that could have gone better.
>>737063447
>You’re just saying shit and you can’t even stand on your actual feelings
Ohhh, you're underage. I see now. Not only that, but you're a zoomer so you're already behind. You're not developed enough to understand more """complex""" emotions other than "this shit is the best ever" or "this shit is the worst ever". You invented "mid", and still you cannot comprehend it.
>>737063517
I really liked Act I, I liked the lights up to Lampmaster because they reminded me of the lights leading up to Magus, I liked a lot of the music but after a while it all sounds the same so as a finished product I ended up only still liking the few "different" tracks the game has (which does not include the buttrock or whatever the fuck things start turning into at the end), I kinda liked Act II but that was dependent on the resolution, I hated the entirety of Act III and I think that really kills the game, I thought parrying was very satisfying but at the same time the entire combat boils down to just parrying and the Lumina system is mostly just a facade and even the weapons which seem like you are making real choices are not real choices either. Just a bunch of illusion of choice or illusion of options or builds when the entire gameplay is "just parry". Which again, feels satisfying, but that's just all it is. I liked it for one game and I hope we don't get any E33 clones.
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>>737063810
>Ohhh, you're underage.
raped retard lmao
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>>737063695
>I remember dating a girl for a couple months who was obnoxiously obsessed with E33 and got genuinely angry that I wasn't as into it.
yeah dude
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>>737063695
>I remember dating a girl for a couple months who was obnoxiously obsessed with E33 and got genuinely angry that I wasn't as into it.
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>>737063810
>Calling me a zoomer
>When he’s never played Legend of Dragoon and insists on calling E33 a Mario clone
You have no wrinkles in your picture, there is more hair on my nuts than your entire pink and soft body, boy.
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>>737063571
maybe they just dont like "muh bug" lune
>her backstory doesnt matter
>her personal tragedies dont weigh in at all
the fact that people are okay with it being a remarkably unsatisfying story for her just tells me they didnt play the game
>>737063647
>which shows multiple people getting painted over and having their minds controlled.
wat, they have painted alt-selfs or literally "misrepresented interpretations" (hence painted versions) my point is
>the maelle plot is somehow allowed to allow her to forget
>she is somehow allowed to live 16 years of simulated life to have emotional stakes
>again none of the other cast have any bearing on this, not verso, not renoir, not aline, fucking no one
>you can ignore all the thematic leadins about blossoming and flourishing with the ascender axon
none of it fucking matters because the player can just pick 2 endings, one where malicia fails utterly to move on or one where a fake verso convinces the real(?) child painted verso thing to stop painting
literally no character grows in a meaningful way, verso had already been on this path BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE GAME
NOBODY DOES ANYTHING MEANINGFUL
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>>737042354
>but E33's popularity was basically entirely organic.
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>>737063948
>>Calling me a zoomer
If the shoe fits.
>>When he’s never played Legend of Dragoon and insists on calling E33 a Mario clone
I have played Legend of Dragoon though. Back when it was a thing. I never finished it because even back then I thought the battles took too long to get into and it was really slow. But anyway, I played Legend of Dragoon. It just doesn't have the parries, so that's not what E33 is a clone of. One day you'll learn that certain examples are more appropriate than other examples, but today just isn't that day, because you'll read this and you'll continue to become even more triggered about mere truths.
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>>737063695
>She was also trash and needed me to beat several bosses for her.
imo this is bizarre
the lategame totally allows you to make builds that dont need to engage in that shit
and thats literally how i beat simon
i think thats good design is having the challenge and the cheese option
butofc the game being hilariously unleveled and the rest of the game being a pushover is unacceptable
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>>737063934
Oh yeah, forgot I'm on /v/. Go outside you retarded niggers.
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>>737064121
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>>737045776
>You don't call good food pigslop.
Sure you do. There's always parts of the world where something will be considered a delicacy. I'm sure there's at least one European country that would consider shoving their face in a trough full of pig slop gourmet dining
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>[this game] is shilled and [that game] is shilled
>it's shilled, all of it's shilled, none of it's real, it's all fake
>...but E33? That was 100% real, why would they even want to shill E33? What would the point even be?
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>>737063827
>I’d rather take a memory loss trope that allows for inventive story telling in fantasy,
again its not inventive, it literally allows the game to be as contrived as it is
>If you think you can avoid all foibles of your genre you have never made anything in your life.
if you think a problem being allowed to exist suddenly makes it not a problem that's just cope
its a tolerable problem maybe for you, but a problem nonetheless
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>>737064074
If you had played it and not googled it just now, it would have been your first point of reference before Mario LMFAO, because one of those franchises definitely share more JRPG DNA with E33 than the other. Saying a bunch of shit to try and bowl over other people may work, but not with me. You are vapid and way, way, WAY more fucking stupid than you are accounting for.
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>>737064112
when i said "this" i was referring to the conclusion at the end
this is factual
nothing you do or experience matters, and none of it has any bearing on maelle going fucking crazy at the end or verso making her choices for her
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>>737064382
>tendie
>shower
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>>737064507
I like dogs but they aren't child replacements
>>737064449
>tendie
Don't ever accuse me of that
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>>737064273
Aline is the only reason you defeat Renoir, who was being sustained infinitely by Sirene. Renoir is the villain you overcome to get to the ending, and even then he still opens the path for Verso to do his thing. You didn't play the game.
>none of it has any bearing on maelle going fucking crazy at the end or verso making her choices for her
So your issue is that they have characters? Verso had been making the party's choices for them since he started helping them reach the paintress without telling them what it would entail. Alicia was mad with grief over causing her brother's death. Are you just butthurt that there wasn't some golden route happy ending and that it was a straight tragedy?
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>>737064414
>whataboutism
no, bad is bad, idk why you would deign to such a low bar for your argument
I just want to remind you that my main issue is, once again
>for its year "best writing" was certainly not something it deserved, UNLESS you ignore all criticism and discussion
at which point why discuss anything
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>>737064272
>If you had played it and not googled it just now, it would have been your first point of reference before Mario LMFAO
You have such violent reactions to the truth. I told you that today is not the day that you realize some examples are more appropriate than others. LoD only has QTEs, it doesn't have parries. E33's gameplay is almost entirely based on parrying, so Legend of Dragoon is not a very appropriate example. It doesn't have the key feature of E33's gameplay. Mario does, therefore it's the most appropriate thing to say that E33 is a "clone" of. Just simple truths, young anon. If you have played E33 and you would call it a LoD clone when LoD doesn't even have parries while E33's combat entirely revolves around the parries... well then I'd say you didn't play either game.
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>>737064751
>So your issue is that they have characters? Verso had been making the party's choices for them since he started helping them reach the paintress without telling them what it would entail. Alicia was mad with grief over causing her brother's death. Are you just butthurt that there wasn't some golden route happy ending and that it was a straight tragedy?
i feel like you're just wilfully interpreting everything i say wrong while ignoring everything i bring up
My issue is the classic
>your ending choices are the only 2 choices that matter
which would be fine if
>the entire game before it wasn't leading up to something else
>Are you just butthurt that there wasn't some golden route happy ending and that it was a straight tragedy?
if you didnt have me play the past 20 some hours leading up to thinking otherwise, then I wouldnt be absolutely disappointed at the
>and i say this again because its true
contrived endings
Ive watched cheap slasher movies that had less "this dumb bitch was asking for it when she got slashed" energy than x33 did for pigeonholing its plot with again, silly plot mechanics
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>>737064824
Fuck maybe I am being a brown after all
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>>737064997
which JRPGs from the last 30 years did you even play?
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>>737065292
You can say that (Paper) Mario RPG is iterative on Legend of Dragoon, and I'd agree with you. However, Legend of Dragoon does not have parries, and E33's combat revolves entirely around parries. Therefore, once again, as I've said several times now, (Paper) Mario RPG is a much more appropriate comparison to E33 than LoD is. If you had played either game, you would be able to understand this. But you're not trying to understand, you're trying to "win" an argument so hard that you're okay with being wrong if you think it makes you win.
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>>737065463
you lost and got raped, see you in the next thread buckbroken-kun!
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>>737065313
>fanatics dont read criticisms, they just consume slop and defend it while ignoring everything that doesnt fit their narrative
>they also lack any capacity for nuance
if i wanted to deal with this shit i would've gone to /pol/
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>>737065663
Did you know that Legend of Dragoon does not have parries, that E33's entire gameplay is the parry system, and that (Paper) Mario RPG has parries, thus making is a much more appropriate example comparison to E33?Clearly you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing from an objectively incorrect position.
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>>737065705
>>fanatics dont read criticisms, they just consume slop and defend it while ignoring everything that doesnt fit their narrative
Anon, there is a guy right now arguing that Legend of Dragoon, a game with no parries, is a more appropriate comparison to E33 than Paper Mario, a game that has both parries and QTEs. Also, all conversation surrounding E33 is just "you're brown". The fanatics are so dead set on defending their game from even the slightest criticism that they have made the discussion of their favorite game literally impossible.
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