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Can't we all just get all along and admit both games are awesome for different reasons?
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>>737042458
buying RE4 remake helps fund the slop machine come out with more ports of re4 og, so yes? Ports to Quest. Ports to iPhone. Ports to smart watches. Your game has come out more than Skyrim at this point you fucking babby
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>>737042554
and no one is playing them lol
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>>737042494
ok but what about the good games?
>>737042554
I wasn't asking for ports and the fact that you thought otherwise shows how bankrupt your mind is
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>>737042743
>never played it
I have its called destiny 2
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>>737042410
No cause the remakes and RE7 brought larpniggers who hate everything pre RE7, there were people defending something so objectively bad like Adas new voice even cause muh soggy knees
Zoomers are beyond gay
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>>737042976
>there were people defending something so objectively bad like Adas new voice even cause muh soggy knees
>Zoomers are beyond gay
You made that up, I still haven't played 4make and my friends don't like it either. Quit being a dishonest faggot
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>>737043269
yeah so what?
after experiencing modern games I will literally never go back
it's like saying "bro you played gta5 now you must play gta sa too", this is retarded, games are tied to technology and I have a set of standards and features I expect from most games
not to mention how the original is not even popular
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>>737043424
>Now
>Now
Anon you're full of shit there wasn't even dlc for the game and people were reporting on it and shitting on her for it. Wasn't she "harassed" for it? To say the whole discourse changed years later is just isn't true
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>>737043920
What's with RE titles not having the consistency of not having a ranking system after RE2, even RE4OG doesn't have a grade
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>>737043474
But it is, the game is good just not Resident Evil good. It's literally the most overrated RE game in the franchise next to RE2OG.
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>RE4 remake
>RE4 gamecube
HAHA NIGGA AINT EVEN PLAYED THE ZEEBO VERSION, ALL BOW DOWN TO THE KING.
ZEEBO BOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYZZZZ WHERE WE AT? CROWBCAT TOO PUSSY TO MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE SUPERIOR EDITION, HE SHAKIN, HE QUAKIN, HE SITTIN IN HIS HOME ALONE MASTURBATIN.
WE GOT THE BLUE VILLAGERS AND ITS ONLY 7MB OF MEMORY, SUPERIOR VERSION? I THINK SO!
ZEEBO HYPE, Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-ZEEEEEEBOOOOOO HYYYYYYYPE!
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Reminder that in the remake you have to pay to hear the iconic "Resident Evil 4" voice line on the title screen
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2109307/Resident_Evil_4_Original_Ve r_Soundtrack_Swap/
"People" are defending this by the way
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>>737044158
Where do I buy?
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>>737042410
Lol
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No matter what you think of the original or the remake, it's objectively just fucking scummy behavior to do pic related. Resident Evil 4 isn't Resident Evil 4 (2005), it's THE fucking Resident Evil 4. Call the remake Resident Evil 4: Reborn or some shit, trying to control the language people use like you're casting some fucking black magic propaganda spell is evil behavior. Same with Tomb Raider (2013; DOOM (2016), God of War (2018) etc
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Welcome to the insane level of religious zealotry we have to put up with from OG purists. I guarantee you I have played the OG more than 99% of them, I filled the entire typewriter with cleared saves. To be fair just playing the OG one time all the way through is more than 70% of them. Just firing up the OG and sitting on the title screen is more than 40% of them.
Try the remake, it's a really fun game. It's the peak of the entire RE franchise to date.
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>>737044409
>Try the remake, it's a really fun game.
Well at the same time I'm not looking to taint what I take away from the 2005 game. I like the experience of RE4, even if I can't swoon over it to the degree others do. I wasn't trying to replace it with something that's "made better".
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This isn't about the game, you dumb faggots, it's about the creator. He had a meltdown when he got backlash over his original video, backpedaled, tried to pull the whole "I was only pretending to be retarded" "I'm such an epic troll", then deleted the whole thing, only to come back a while later with a new video which is just more backpedaling. It's the exact same thing he did with his VR video, exact same thing. It's loser behaviour from a loser who can't stand for his own opinions, can't handle pushback and buckles under pressure from retards on the internet.
I will never ever have any respect for people like that, I don't care if they are wrong or right
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>>737044380
90% of the flamewars are started by OG cucks. It makes them come across as childish, immature fucking failures. It's pathetic and makes someone like me who really likes RE4 ashamed to be associated with it.
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No, the remake sucks and there's no reason to play it. If you like or prefer the remake then you have bad taste.
Yes, the majority of people are wrong.
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>>737044572
I think it's 50/50, OG fanatics who think the remake diminishes the original somehow vs those who were not alive/old enough to appreciate the OG and are coping about being "left out" of the experience
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>>737044514
??? This is just as insane to me. It's just a game? Liking one doesn't lessen the enjoyment of the other. You're quite literally operating on cuck logic to avoid playing what is, in a total vacuum, a great game. If RE9 played like remake and remake played like RE9 I would be in these threads calling the whole debate retarded because RE9 would be the peak Resident Evil gameplay game. I would tell everyone to ignore the remake and just play RE9 for its superior gameplay. This could very well be the fate of remake. The second capcom makes an RE entry that has gameplay superior to remake then it loses its strongest asset. So far they are 0/1 to date.
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capcom needs to just quit remaking things
their old games have more TECHNOLOGY than their remakes, which is fucking sad
but I guess that's what happens when you outsource development to fucking india
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>>737044310
NTA but
>NG4
Seems alright but not gonna buy it at full price + I have other Ninja Gaiden games to play
>Night striker gear
Not gonna buy a shmup made today when hundreds of better ones exist that are easily emulatable
>Absolum
2D Indie slop, blue woman main character, no thanks
>Nioh 3
Already bought it and finished it, good game and I will buy the DLC
>Khazan
If it goes on sale, no point in me supporting a studio that dissolved a week ago
>Earthion
Another SHMUP indie game
>Shinobi AoV
Sure, will check it out and buy it if the demo is good
>Emerald Blue
Another SHMUP + it looks very generic bullet hell, pass
>Neon inferno
If its like Metal Slug I will check it out
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>>737044356
lol. It's literally just titles on products they own, so you can consume more products. It's not trying to control language, it's to keep retards like you engaged. Literally go outside and touch grass.
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>>737045391
>le old people actually use le technology more than le young people!!!!!!
They don't use it more, they just use it worse
like commenting on youtube videos
or even worse, screencapping comments them and posting them on 4chan
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These threads are the peak of insanity... Crowbcat totally won in the moment his video was mass-reported and restricted by brainrot kids. They all had the opportunity to refute all the arguments in the video, but they chose not to do so. Now, the only thing these brainrot kids can do is pretend they "missed the point" and complain that Crowbcat is the "stop having fun!" guy in the room.
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>>737045515
This is falseflagging bait
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>>737044554
>He had a meltdown when he got backlash over his original video
Nuh uh, you're not doing that tranny. The only reason why Crowbat's video got attacked was because Sphere Hunter had a melty and told his simps to raid his channel. Why? Because the golem freak is addicted to bouncing on capcom cock and called the demake a flawless masterpiece, so he felt Crowbat's video was a personal attack. Simple.
Also it's always pathetic to see modern crapcum simps who eagerly consoom their demakes whine and bitch and moan while jerking each other off. You love consooming corporate crap made for modern audiences, it's fine to admit it.
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>>737045405
Nigga please, indie SHMUP's (most indie retro revival games) are literally the same shit as RE4 Remake, they are just releasing a worse version of games that came out 20 years ago, the only reason you support them so much is because >ITS NOT LE HECKIN BIG EVIL CORPO DOING IT, ITS THE LITTLE MAN WHO NEEDS FOOD TO SURVIVE!!!!!
You are as retarded as the people you claim to hate.
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Zoomer who played remake first here.
I think I prefer everything about the original except some of the controls and the obviously nicer textures in the remake. But even then it's not "all grafix", it's just textures. That one shot of the cliff on the island is a good example. The stylized sunrise is high kino.
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>sound mixing was kinda shit
>yellow paint is lame
>stealth takedown is kinda gay even though only get to do it 4 times tops in the entire game
>ada sounds like a rusty hag
i grant you all of this, but the gameplay is still way better
headshot kick stab loop was getting repetitive before you even left the village
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>>737045806
No, it's not. The gameplay of the demake is worse simply because it uses modern "realistic" controls all console garbage uses these days where instead of the character reacting to your input instantly, you first have to watch him turn and start moving his feet where you want him to go. Retards will bitch about "muh tank controls" when OG leon reacted to your inputs with no delay.
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>>737044892
it's more than "just a game" though
you have to think about their intent behind it. There's any number of suits in Japan, CAPCOM or Sony or elsewhere, who have specific ideas about these cash ins. CAPCOM doesn't understand why anyone would want to play OG RE2 or RE3 or even RE4 games instead of the REmakes. Things like Kaz playing a new Gran Turismo and saying no one would want backwards compatibility on the PS4 because the new games are better.
They make a remake as a replacement product, not a celebration of legacy. They don't care whether a game ported as many times as RE4 still has legs today or how well the experience holds up against modern games. They care that people old and new are invested in RE4's legacy and they think they can sell old people the member berries and new people the experience they were too lazy to try as something flash and profitable.
We see it all the time in hollywood, as well. Constant reboots, constant rehashes. Sometimes it's an homage and a labor of love, a lot of the time it's just a soulless cash in. There's pretty much nothing in RE4make showing me CAPCOM has proper love or understanding of the OG game, therefore whether it's a good game or not it's a soulless cash-in.
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>>737045960
What if I told you the modern momentum/animation controls were a modern implementation of replicating the rooted to shoot design of the og. The very thing you are railing against was implemented on purpose to keep the remake closer aligned to the spirit of the design decision of the OG. The remake has freedom of movement but also makes movement committal to subtly encourage you into having to stand your ground.
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>>737045962
Remake apologists are disingenuous in saying the remake is "better" due to the gameplay when the original was made at a time where over the shoulder action arcade was unprecedented. Easy to say that the new thing is preferred by today's standards if you completely disregard context and history and judge them on a vacuum, hence all of their arguments coming off as bad faith
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>>737046342
Nope, sorry. Not when Leon's actual movement is quick and precise in the OG once you get used to third person tank controls while the demake uses generic console "realistic" controls which has the artificial input delay because your character needs to start moving his feet where you want him to go.
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>>737046365
Ok but that also invalidates claims that the remake is inherently less memorable - even to people who have never played the OG. The milk of context of how re4 influenced the genre has already been spilled. Even if you never played og re4, youve still already felt the effects of it.
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>>737046114
I think the highest honor a remake can acheive is improving upon the gameplay of the original. The rest of your nostalgia wank window dressing is irrelevant. Remake did improve upon Luis and Krauser a lot. It wasn't just a cash grab. If you want to talk cash grab DeS is that way. Oh wait, it's an irrelevant remake because it did nothing to effect gameplay.
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>>737046183
You are so far into terminally online culture you wouldn't know that most millennials never played morrowind and still haven't. I would say morrowind had the same audience size as mewgenics in modern terms versus oblivion being an RE9 level release and skyrim an Elden Ring level phenomenon.
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>ooooh the clunkyness
>I just can't get into because of leon's clunkyness
the game is designed around it, it's not a accident
that the survival horror game can't have you dashdancing around the enemies
unironically get good
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>>737046552
And you can also move and shoot in the remake. All to create a continuous flow of movement instead of the binary rooted and in motion design of the OG. It's a way to implement a fluid movement system while also subtly trying to replicate and improve upon the intent of the OG. The intention being you have restricted movement while shooting and enemies have better movement than you so just purely using movement to kite enemies is not a viable strategy in most cases forcing you to stand your ground. This shit is way out of your nostalgia poisoned IQ threshold.
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>>737045806
the sound design of the demake is genuinely terrible and they have the gall to resell the audio from the original game
plus the UI has that ugly soulless modern design
the whole game is just a mess from a presentation point of view and don't get me started on the artistic liberties they took, i.e. censorship and removing the humanity from the villagers
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>>737047194
>people who left big studio to make indie slop versions of games they previously made
Wow so exactly what I said? A worse version of old video games they made years ago with a new coat of paint? Golly gee boy I love Mighty Number 9 and Bloodstained!
Nah, no thanks, not supporting the 'indie' equivalent of the RE4 remake no matter what old Japanese mens names you attach to it, would rather just play the original they are ripping off.
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>>737047125
clunkyness posters BTFO forever
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>>737044753
I heard this arguement but it's not mine. Given how muh realism has taken over, taking away yellow paint would people have a harder time since shit blends over compared to games 20 years ago. I wanna hear your thoughts anons
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All memes aside, it really is a testament to the quality of the original game that a reduced and downgraded approximation of the real thing still managed to captivate an entire generation of players in the 2020s. Something about RE4 is just lightning in a bottle, everything went so right.
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>>737048169
Brother, how is it different from OG? Headshot, spin kick, knife to death. I haven't played remake properly. I love 4OG but there's dishonesty in this arguement idk what to tell you.
Also whoever thought parrying was a good idea in an RE game needs to get fired
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Remake needs mods
Original needs new textures
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>>737048448
I modded Ada Wong to have the AI voice and not wearing any panties, as well as improved stagger animations (looks fucking amazing with the new engine) as well as snappy movement control and the laser dot on all weapons
So yeah it's fun once you make it action arcade
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>>737048676
Absolute fucking moron.
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>>737048815
Neither.
Don't tell me what to do, pussyboy.
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>>737048169
That has nothing do with MOVEMENT which is what fluid was a reference to as a descriptor of how the remake handles movement in contrast to the binary movement of the OG. That is also not an accurate description of remake at all which actually includes a lot of movement trying to deal with the more aggressive enemies. Movement is gimped to make the encounters more manageable while not being strong enough to outright solve encounters through movement alone. Again, you lack the IQ for this discussion.
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>>737042410
No, fuck you. Hope you're flayed alive.
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>>737049123
Or he could shit on these over promised and under delivered games like Crimson Desert. Like he use to.
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because they are trash
old unpopular things suck, gta sa has worse gameplay and graphics compared to gta5, there's not point for me to go and try to catch up on something that happened before I was even born, it makes no sense
you are living right in this moment not in 2004, and if you can't enjoy modern games then what the fuck are you doing on /v/ - Video Games where people discuss recent releases? Gtfo to reddit or /vr/
I don't have infinite time to replay all the oldslop ever released, there are more modern games dropping in a year that I would be able to play anyway so fuck off with this nonsense
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retard, old games are literally unplayable by modern standards, if they are so good why isn't your senile ass playing them right now huh?
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>>737049123
He could have made a video on RE9 which has tons of shit thats wrong with it, instead he made a remake of his RE4 remake video, he essentially did the same thing capcom did but with his own video invalidating it and making it not worth watching.
Its like pottery, it rhymes.
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re4
>maximum soul
>kbnm controls are ass
re4make
>soulless
>good kbnm controls
they should just have patched re4 with modern controls
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>>737049313
You belong in a zoo like the soulless, personality-void subhuman consumer cattle you are.
I am intellectually, spiritually, physically, and ethically superior to you.
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>>737042410
So what's even the point on hating the remake when the original has been ported to basically every platform, it is not like a demon's souls demake that was taunted as the best way to play it and really the only way to do it on modern platforms.
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>>737049542
>So what's even the point on hating the remake
Remakes should be superior in every way. If they're not then they shouldn't exist.
Corporations that charge money for inferior products should be shamed and mocked at every opportunity.
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>>737049438
>You belong in a zoo
shut up unc, you lost, all culture panders to me, you are old news, nobody gives a fuck about your senile retard opinions and takes
>I am intellectually, spiritually, physically, and ethically superior to you.
do you realize that you are a virgin 30yo retard that's seethign at digital toys for teenagers on 4chan right? the only superior thing you have is that receding hairline that's crawling off your scalp at light speed
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>>737044409
Same. I've played through the original from start to finish over 50 times on about a half dozen or so platforms. I've done everything from a handcannon-only run to a knife only run.
I really enjoyed the remake. I've played it through a few times since it came out. It's not quite as fun as the original, but it's still very good.
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He went from "you are all wrong, I am the lone voice against this insanity" to "look at all the people who agree with me" and expected praise for it. He completely forgot what made him appealing to begin with.
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>>737049542
>when the original has been ported to basically every platform
Does that magically make the demake not dogshit? I'm sorry, if I port RE4 to my calculator will RE4R reshape itself into a better game? Is that how it works?
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>>737049693
Congratulations, you inherited the videogame industry when it's on the verge of its next crash. Consumer loyalty, confidence, and optimism are at all-time lows. You get to frolic and play in a digital landscape where every predatory money-mincing scheme has been normalized. The peak of your cultural interactive media experience is a cynical jungle of micro transactions, asset flips, and developers who (correctly) assume that their core playerbase is unintelligent. They'll shit in your mouth and you'll thank them for it.
You get to be core audience for a form of media that is in decline. You are King Turd of Shit Mountain.
An entire third of game industry workers were laid off last year. The decline will continue. The fire will rise and you will mock those smart enough to not breathe in the smoke.
You are aging and when your life is at an end this exchange will feel like it only happened minutes ago. Time speeds up.
You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
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Remakes make the 20% with brains feel insulted because the 80% without brains will try it out and say,
>"Uhhh... it’s way better now!”
just like a certain son-of-a-bitch Redditor friend of mine said when he played the Demon’s Souls remake, without noticing details like how the miracle gong sounds (gongs as motifs characteristic of sacred temples) were replaced by generic sounds from the sci-fi sound library the developers had on hand.
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>Headshot kick
>turn around because enemies are now pincering you
>shoot a guy in your way in the knee then kick
>move past up a ladder and kick it down
>knock another one down, finish this one with the knife to save ammo because you've built distance
>notice there's an exposed plaga in the approaching crowd
>use a flashbang then knock them down to reposition again
>shoot a stick of dynamite midair for a huge payoff
>shotgun the chainsaw guy off a ledge
>kneecap a shield nigger then break 3 shields with one kick
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>>737044220
explain to me why this matters and why i should care
i can hear the voice line any time i want right now for free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCxFqH3VkKM
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There's a mod to remove the yellow paint and it doesn't make the game any harder. You can even set it so there are superior diegetic indicators, like Illuminados symbols on the barrels and boxes, and yellow paint on ladders and ledges being replaced by blood.
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>>737050772
That's not true, doors in the village cam be shot through and destroyed. The only thing they removed was slamming doors, which is a shame. This misinformation comes from an example in the castle, when in the original most doors in the castle were also unbreakable.
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>>737048448
SW was blatantly made by a B team, the village is 100% recycled areas, and the boss fights are painfully lazy with like 3 moves each, actually guilty of the "trivialized by parry spam" accusation. Can't believe they asked money for this.
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SOULmake
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Erm that death animation is too long
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Haven't seen anyone else mention this, but it seems like Crowbcat's latest RE4 video has been mass reported into becoming age restricted on cucked nations with age verification laws.
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Sorry chuds but the original is a clunky, outdated misogyny simulator. Like "I knew you'd be fine if you landed on your butt." is genuinely disgusting. Luis blatantly objectifying Ashley, a 20 year old girl, by commenting on her "ballistics", there's even an achievement named after it, and being able to peek up her skirt, the pantyshots during the solo Ashley section, all of that is just distasteful.
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>>737050135
all that coping wall of text instead of admitting that I get to play better version of """"classics""""", crazy unc
don't even get me started on millennial writing, everyting that's supposedly "wrong" with the industry is just the effect of your ilk enterting the workforce
since you are incapable of parsing text written in english consider the following meme as tldr
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>two cakes
>but eating one of the cakes perpetuates business practices which consists of never making anything new and selling reheated garbage with chunks missing which are sold for extra
>but the two cakes exist
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>>737053306
>Millennial writing sucks, you millennial
>Now excuse me while I brag about getting to play remakes of games millenials played, which are being remade and rewritten by millenials
Took you an hour to respond with a contradiction. What's your mom's pussy smell like, boy?
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Wow, leave it to the fans to fix the game once again
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>>737042410
Fuck demakes and demake defenders, if you can't handle the original version of a game then you don't deserve to play it at all, simple as.
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zoom niggers aren't very bright, pls understand
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>>737045534
>They all had the opportunity to refute all the arguments in the video,
there were no arguments in that video only people's preferences.
"There is too much blood in this horror game" How do you even refute this statement? okay dude whatever you say
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>>737048104
It's a copout. There are perfectly viable ways of guiding player direction that developers all knew v very well of (light being one example). Nothing about graphics progressing has changed this.
It's a completely fucking lazy bandaid solution to not caring about the craft. Look at any playtest/developer commentary and they'll talk about it plenty.
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>>737045534
plenty people pointed out what's wrong with that video if you bothered to search for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PXn1m9NzE
there are just so many scenes from the remake that Crowbcat choses not to show.
> The fight with the chainsaw sisters (probably because Leon does that backflip and Crowbcat can't show remake Leon looking cool)
> The Mendez chase scene like Bawk mentioned
> Showcasing the water hall only when the music stops playing
> The castle battlements area
> He also doesn't show any of the mines area where Luis teams up with you, even in the double el gigante footage, it's almost like he made an effort to exclude Luis
> The krauser knife fight (not the cutscenes, the actual fight where you have to use the knife manually)
> The garrador fight
> For some reason in the water hall, while showing combat, he makes an active effort to run past an enemy after stunning it and not kicking it, like you can see him actively avoiding the melee prompt (ig he can't show remake Leon doing cool roundhouses???)
> The main Krauser fight (all he does his show the transformation cutscene, not you know.... the literal rest of the fight)
> The scene where Leon shoots Salazar, causing him to transform
> He also cuts off many scenes in the remake to suit his agenda. Example:- the scene with the Saddler boss where Leon says "I'll give you a holy body" and stabs him with his own staff, Crowbcat cuts the footage off just when the rocket hits Saddler
Everybody's entitled to their own opinion. The problem arises when you use such dishonest and slimy methods (like literally ommitting footage) in order to convince the audience into thinking a certain way. Because of this, I believe that this was an incredibly disengenous comparison. Even if Crowbcat was right on 1 or 2 counts, it doesn't matter because of the means he used to compare the two games and that his overall goal was not to compare them, but cater towards the orginal in a biased way
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>>737055446
>The scene where Leon shoots Salazar, causing him to transform
That's a downgrade. They took away the cool scene where Salazar gets a knife through the hand.
A bunch of a new shit doesn't excuse cut content and shortcuts.
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>>737044554
>He had a meltdown when he got backlash over his original video, backpedaled, tried to pull the whole "I was only pretending to be retarded" "I'm such an epic troll", then deleted the whole thing
never happened by the way
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>>737044554
He didn't delete any part of the video. It's still up, you moron
https://youtu.be/83BhJAZrXrc
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>>737043582
>lets see how many players remake 4 has in 1 year
Most popular RE game on Steam
>lets see how many players remake 4 has in 2 years
Most popular RE game on Steam
>lets see how many players remake 4 has in 3 years
Most popular RE game on Steam 2 months after new RE game is released
>L-LETS SEE HOW MANY PLAYERS REMAKE HAS IN... HUH... 20 YEARS????
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>>737048104
I disagree. this is just a cope response from people trying to justify capcom slapping that ugly yellow paint everywhere. the argument that the graphics are so good now that it's necessary is bullshit. I played with the yellow paint remover mod, you can remove the paint completely or replace it with something that actually fits, like blood splatters. I had no issues. maybe I missed a couple of items because I didn't notice a wooden box, who cares? why is it the end of the world for some people if you miss something because you weren't paying enough attention?
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>>737055667
>A bunch of a new shit doesn't excuse cut content and shortcuts.
in a vacuum this is true but nothing was actually cut out
>blatant jokes relegated to cheeky achievement references
>potentially less serious stuff all relegated to ada's story, which was previously rehashed dogshit
although pity that means we have to listen to that nails on chalkboard shite
oh and all the critics like to conveniently forget all the dogshit island encounters that were redone or removed
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I have to say, this out-of-nowhere narrative that crowb is some kind of real journalist who is supposed to have integrity is extremely funny to me
like where have these people been
he's a shitposter
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>>737042410
Anon, before you are two cars.
One is near damned flawless, beefy engine, tires in perfect condition, the interior is authentic leather and it has that permanent new-car smell. Even if the paintjob is faded, and the headlight covers are yellowed.
The other car looks like something from a sci-fi movie, but under the hood is a 2 stroke lawnmower engine, the interior is all plastic, and the fucking seatbelts don't work.
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>>737056112
>car analogy
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>>737044272
>be mindraped zoomer
>extremely mindraped
>try to play re4
>no yellow paint on the ladders
>HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
>"don't care yellow paint is gay but gameplay is superior"
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>>737055920
>I have to say, this out-of-nowhere narrative that crowb is some kind of real journalist who is supposed to have integrity is extremely funny to me
if ever anyone needs to know what an astroturf campaign, i think this coordinated smear is it
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>>737056220
I much prefer the crimson desert strategy
>color nothing
>make random exploding barrels 1hko the player
>fill the world with meaningless garbage to inconvenience you
incredibly based design its no wonder everyone says theyre having a blastno really fuck that game
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RE4 is the worst Resident Evil story wise, they had to add Wesker on Assigment Ada back in the day just to justify his place on the main story of Resident Evil, because without it its just a side story that barely changes the world, meanwhile.
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>>737055885
>conveniently forget all the dogshit island encounters
The island being bad is a zoomer meme. The village and castle are two of the most iconic settings of that gen so obviously the island is going to look worse when it doesn't live up to that.
20 years ago people were like "yeah the island isn't as good" and through broken telephone it became "oh THAT part of the game" by zoomers who didn't play it. Many such cases.
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RE4 is just wanked as a great game because it's on every single platform, if it stayed on Wii people would say that was shit, its not a influential game, nothing that they made was copied on other game, NOW, Last of Us is a game that has nothing original on it but its the first one to do everything great and that's why is 1000x more important for gaming than RE4, thats why RE4OG can't stand RE4R, they can't understand that everything that they copied from Last of Us is 100 times better than the original, they like to pretend that is super fun to open the inventory every time you need to change weapons or equip a grenade instead of having a radial menu.
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>>737056382
well not quite
>adds a shit ton of light sensitive enemies in RE5
>variant shows up in Rev2
inb4
>well thats what i was saying with wesker
right so they did make RE4 relevant; Ada DID escape with the plagas, and the plagas was introduced into circulation
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>>737056540
>The island being bad is a zoomer meme.
no it fucking isnt
the wreckingball room is genuinely shit
the retarded "kano from mortal kombat" dudes with the hammers looked stupid as hell
the big fat cigar minigun dudes looked stupid as hell
The "large dumptruck" is much better in RE4R, and so is the chopper run (although i hate it in both games)
and its true i prefer krauser 1 in 4R but krauser 2 in OG
otherwise you cant seriously tell me the wreckingball room is anything less than a genuinely unacceptable encounter in RE4OG
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>>737056832
you're being disingenuous if you dont think that is a remarkably effective, if simple combat loop present in both games, although only relevant with different guns (ie red9 in RE4R does way too much damage, but the blacktail does "just enough")
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>>737056540
I thought I was going insane when I saw people act like the island was some horrible experience.
>>737056905
>the island is bad because of 1 room and 2 enemies looking dumb
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>>737057039
Yeah I don't understand why zoomers pretend why you can't just headshot into melee in RE4R either. It's how I did ny first playthrough since I was just coming from RE4OG and it was so effective I didn't die even once.
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>>737057148
>the island is bad because of 1 room and 2 enemies looking dumb
a game can be broken down to its "THAT moments"
and i cited 2 sections
but you're absolutely high if you dont think 1 bad section cant sink an otherwise perfect experience
to break down your farce
>if i just dismiss all the complaints, then there are no complaints and my thing is perfect
yes, but thats a retarded way of thinking
Capcom isn't wasnt going to just rerelease a game and change one encounter
>>737057327
>You're being an utter brainlet if you don't think that it gets fucking boring after the like third time or so
if the gameplay loop isn't for you then that's your problem
in fact it isn't really a problem because then just don't engage in it
>if you want to be efficient, have a plan to CQC a bunch of enemies out of your way
>if you have the ammo just blast them
both work, I prefer the first way but ive seen people do it the other way
Just because it's an option, doesn't mean you have to complain about it because its the only option you assume exists because clearly you're being wilfully singleminded to have an argument
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>>737042426
Based, fuck demake fags
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>>737056993
>bawk is a rare real RE fan
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>>737057613
>your shots are easily converted into gameplay rewards
that is engaging and great
what is your opinion of engaging and great gameplay if not something elegant and intuitive?
my corollary is
>fast forward to 2025-2026, retard companies like Arrowhead cant even make THE GIANT GLOWING WEAKSPOT a fucking weakspot
>>737057558
the fact that i can be specific and all you can do is speak vaguely and without insight is so painfully consistent with people who think RE1-3 is good "because muh horror roots" and why 6 is arbitrarily bad because you heard your favorite fucking internet superstar give you talking points
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>>737057706
Yes? The franchise is 30 years old you colossal inbred, the idea an e-celeb whose job thrives if he sucks corporate cock and has lukewarm responses to reheated slop remakes is le true fan is unfathomably stupid. Jump out a window.
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>>737057780
you got me but ill reverse uno and say they made ashley's segment not shit by expanding upon it
>>737057841
>every moment MUST be something new, you can't have a gameplay loop
yeah? i guess you really liked village then
If you don't like a gameplay loop that's your problem, but resident evil didn't invent gameplay loops, and your argument dismisses so many things in life, let alone fucking games if you can't understand that
also better an autist than a ritalin dependent
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>>737049693
>all culture panders to me
So that's how we ended up with >>737053306
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>>737057854
Strange how zoomers come crawling to 4chan, usually from reddit and twitter, then proceed to blame us for whatever people from those sites have done.
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I don't know if boomers are ready for this, but sucking off a dead industry hasn't even begun yet. There will come a time in the next few years when more zoomers grow up and create influential video essays that will denounce all old games as a whole to the point that they are laughed at in the same way everyone laughs at Citizen Kane today. And everyone will believe it and it will become a Canonical Fact until you die. Putting demakeslop and indieslop on a pedestal as the greatest games of all time was the prelude
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>>737045361
bodied that freak lmao
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Both are fun, but OG will always be infinitely replayable/quotable and the remake will never have that same soul.
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I will admit there are a lot of really, really nice things in these remake games. Modern technology is very cool. Look how fucked up Salvador is. I mean it's so visceral and satisfying.
I just wish we'd see a new game with new characters and new enemies in a new setting that can be memorable and iconic instead of just rehasing and remaking every single memorable thing from the past
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All that being said....new Ada Wong game with a real voice actress when????
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>>737059401
They should take all this effort and put it into the new instalments but then they don't get the easy bux. Pragmata is the most respectable thing capcom has done in a decade even if it ends up being a mediocre game
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>>737060912
If you like looking at game menus and listening to ambient sounds you will have a blast with OG
If you like playing decent action-horror shooter game with modern graphics and good controls stick to remake
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>>737060912
Everything about the aesthetics, like the sound, the cutscene direction, cinematography, the voice acting, the dialogue, etc is all vastly superior in the original work. The new game is a more modern TPS with the same sluggish gamefeel you're used to playing in anything else. The original game uses a spin on survival horror controls mixed with beat em up elements to create an action arcade experience full of tension and variety.
If you want to play RESIDENT EVIL 4, you have to play the original game. The new game is just a modern game using RE4 as its template. Play emulated, PC port, console, whatever you gotta do. I love the HD project with a few mods like hotkey weapon swap.
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>>737060912
It's a bit more action-y and less serious in tone I'd say. you get to see more body horror, transformations. the castle looks like a videogame castle. Main villains call leon on the phone just to monologue, spew one-liners.
some action scenes like the iconic laser room were removed for some ungodly reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fey8XU0OiWo
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>>737056331
He criticized remake 4 plenty of times in that video just like he criticized remake 2 in the past.
You seem to think that everyone has the same opinion as you and if they don't express that it's only because they are pandering to their audience or they are paid shills. It would be better if you accepted that the world is more complicated than that instead of insulting everyone that said something that made you mad.
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>>737042410
Why did he decide to die on this hill that hard?
I'm replaying every game in the series after Requiem and I plan to play original RE4 (this time with Wii controls for the first time) and remake.
If had Oculus Quest, I would play the VR version as well.
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>>737060912
OG has superior story, characters, sound, aesthetics, and directing. The renake arguably has better gameplay and pacing, but I am an OG bab so I would put them at about even, just different experiences. Of course if you are a zoomie who balks at the idea of tank controls you should stick to the remake.
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>>737061870
I think the problem with bawk is that he tries to be politically correct and "corporate" because he is trying to get in bed with Capcom similar to Suzy. During his RE9 stream you can tell he absolutely HATED some parts like the gun zombies and mortars, but he didn't say anything critical and just cringe laughed.
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>>737062358
It is basically a 90s American action flick that doesn't take itself too seriously. Stupid, but funny and entertaining. The remake tries to recontextualizing it to be completely serious, but it just comes across as stupid and grimdark for no reason.
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>>737062604
They are seething because their favorite childhood game got replaced by a newer model which is also getting more awards and praise and recognition than the original so they gather in group therapy threads like this when they tell each other the original game is better and has "sovl" because you can hear a crow squeal in the background.
It's hard to believe people like this exist honestly
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>>737063762
I don't care. Replace the presentation from both and suddenly they share barely anything in common, same as RE2 and RE3 with their remakes.
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>>737063158
Yeah except back then spoiled boomers had the pleasure of clowning on a brand new game instead of another demake. They didn't know how good they had it and if you showed all of them what gaming would be like in 10 or 20 years they would have all shut up instantly lol
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RE4 is a timeless classic.
RE4 Remake is now, in the year 2026, ALREADY a dated relic because of its obsession with yellow paint, a literal flash in the pan fad that is already being phased out.
RE4 Remake isn't just shit, it's SHIT and now already a moldy old game from an era nobody wants to remember. It happened that fast.
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>>737065206
Indie games are made that have tank controls in them. It's a gameplay style defined by limitations.
Yellow Paint is a literal trend geared towards making games braindead, and just like the era of "bosses are too gamey" it died insanely fast.
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>>737065081
>Without RE4 those remakes wouldn't exist. Sony moviegames wouldn't exist.
Are you saying a third person shooter with tank controls from Japan is responsible for the rise of shitty western styled AAA brogames and their subsequent rehashes? You are legitimately beyond saving
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>>737042410
the original has more sovl but the remake is a better, much more digestible game
this applies to nearly all remakes btw.
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>>737042410
VIDEO GAMES, FAGGOT, VIDEO GAMES!
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i could forgive the modernized gameplay if it werent just another assetstore heavy remake with worse music, worse locations, worse character model designs, worse voices, worse direction etc.
stuff that takes effort only.
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>>737072420
i disagree with this, having played both recently. its really amazing how good metroid holds up despite being a NES game. simple but very engaging. compare it to castlevania for example with its stiff on the rails controls, metroid gives you a lot of freedom already. a classic castlevania remake could actually improve it just by having better controls.
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>>737073131
>have a smoother narrative.
oh yeah, i forgot, the resident evil series is a pinnacle of avantgarde storytelling. come on, man.
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The remark simply made the OG irrelevant. I played the original over a dozen time, but there is literally nothing bringing me back to it. Almost everything is better in the remake. There’s like 2 areas that were changed/removed that I preferred in the OG. No obviously is the remake as important or iconic as the OG? No of course not it’s a fucking remake. But it is literally the best remake ever made.
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>>737073662
Good way of putting it. The remake's gameplay is improved and more immersive, and the story having a more serious tone makes it more consistent with the RE engine run, however while it was simply a great game for current year, it's not a generation-defining masterpiece like the original was when it released.
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As soon as you jump down here, the prompt appears on the lever. There's nothing else down here, just a tiny closed off area. There is even a huge torch right next to the lever.
And they STILL put yellow fucking paint on it. And for some reason the mod to remove yellow paint doesn't affect this lever model.