>>737043653
Trees are armoured people in JRPS?

>>737043653
Soule vs souleless

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>>737044417
Looks like a giant shit. Needs DLSS5.

>>737043708
The villain backstory is that an evil wizard was executed and buried under a tree and the tree sucked so much evil over the years it became a sentient tree demon and wore an armor to walk around and do evil things.

>>737046980
Honestly cooler lore than most FF villains.

>>737043653
>>737044417
jrpgs haven't look like that in two decades

>>737044417
looks like one of those giant rock gemstones laughing from the thumbnail

>>737048132
>what is soul games

It sucks that /vrpg/ immediately began spamming dogshit threads as soon as the captcha was fixed. Like it's so obvious that a very small amount of people are making the board as crappy as possible

>>737052332
not jrpgs, unless you wanna start being really pedantic about what the genre is or isn't

>>737046980
>>737047832
It's also one of the few FF games where there's no fooling who the main villain and final boss is. Usually they have big villains who turn out to be pawns or obstacles to a greater evil or subordinate (though FF2 had a nice twist where the villain just comes back from Hell right when his second-in-command tries to take over), but this guy is just the ultimate evil right out the gate and stays that way.

>>737053821
>jrpgs are only (gameplay headcanon), and not just Japanese rpgs

Fuck off.

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>>737043653
How Normies see them. (maybe I should replace the jak with Game Awards or Geoff?)

>>737054504
It's also the best FF with 6 and 9

>>737054504
Yea it's fine. Wasn't even much of a thing back then, FFIV is the only example where genuinely you don't know shit about Zemus and it looks like the main villain will be surely Golbez

>>737044417
huh i never noticed its actually connected all the way down there.

>>737054732
In terms of the classic 2D games, that's true. As a whole, there was also FFIX's Necron, who had jack squat to do with the rest of the story as a character and only popped up after the back-and-forth between Kuja and Garland.

>>737055095
People say he has to do with him being a symbolic representation of Death and it's more obvious in the Japanese script.

>>737054645
just don't make it anime cringe
tough for nips to understand, I know

>>737054504
And that's why it's one of the best, man.
I love Exdeath as a villain, he's honestly way weaker of a villain than his imposing figure gives off, but he's a sneaky asshole about it who will do anything he can to outmaneuver you and make you unwittingly serve his goals.
His adaptation in Dissidia, which focuses on that side of him, made me appreciate it a whole lot more.

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>>737043653
What the fuck was Exdeath's problem?

>>737055637
Genuinely he's just evil energy.

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>>737055509
>tough for nips to understand, I know

>>737055637
we was stuck in a bad game with zero plot and a ridiculously convoluted job system

>>737055852
low IQ retard
FFV is a fucking masterpiece
The Job system is the best shit FF has ever created

>>737055852
The job system is the best part though.
Plot is fine enough.

>>737056047
>muh jobs system
then why do all the best ff games kick that shit to the curb? idiot
>>737056097
it's a recipe for decision paralysis that also doesn't express character traits. give me fixed characters any day

>>737055852
>t. another amerimutt that never played FFV

>>737055637
He was fed up with meatbags eating his fellow plant bros.

>>737055637
He's evil concentrate.

>>737056201
>it's a recipe for decision paralysis
Well you can beat the game with any job combination, including making everyone punch shit or be a healer.
>that also doesn't express character traits.
Just go with what feels right given their personality? But I guess that would require having a little imagination in a roleplaying game, who the fuck would ever want that?

>>737055637
He just loves destruction that much.

>>737056351
>the job system is so good! you can do anything and succeed!
>just create fixed characters yourself and ignore the jobs system
i didn't like it in 3 and i don't like it now. i don't even like the license board shit in X and XII

>>737056492
Having the possibility do that, minmaxxing autism, or whatever else you want to fuck around with, is what makes it good.
With fixed characters you simply don't have a choice.

>>737056638
it's a choice i neither want nor need, and this opinion is the mainstream one-there's a reason why iv and vi are seen as the best snes ff games

>>737055637
He's evil. He loves it!

>>737054645
One is good and one is bad, not that hard to understand

>>737056683
>it's a choice i neither want nor need, and this opinion is the mainstream one-
Yes we know people are cattle and prefer having less choices. What else is new?

>>737056781
maybe people just want to pick a monk or priest at the beginning of the game at most and then play the game without checking a guide

>>737056927
I've beaten FFV without checking a guide nor grinding JP for days, I'm sure you can do it too anon.
Also tried doing it with only initial classes for the sake of once, and it's pretty easy, in fact probably designed around them.

>>737057018
i didn't just say the job system sucks, i said it also has zero plot. if you're not playing the game for the jobs system, what are you playing it for? ff1 is simpler, ff iv is a more classic late fc/ early sfc jrpg and ff vi is better in every way. i'm not even talking about other 8-bit and 16-bit jrpgs

>>737057018
>in fact probably designed around them
It absolutely is. There's a reason the Wind Crystal drops the entire FF1 job assortment on you. The only one it's missing is Red and you could convince me it's because they messed up and swapped it with Blue on accident.
They're all the classes you reasonably would ever want or need to beat the game, by design.

>>737057170
FFV has an excellent plot. You did not play the game.

>>737057447
no it doesn't

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>>737057447
>FFV has an excellent plot.

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>>737057516
Go play the pixel remaster of V right now
It's a great story if you actually pay attention to it
You must be able to play the game and read the text instead of regurgitating normie opinions though like >>737056683, maybe too daunting a task for /v/.

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>>737055852
>ridiculously convoluted job system
>pick a job
>pick a secondary ability
>convoluted
I'd call you out for having such shit taste, but I don't bully people with disabilities.

>>737043653
Hurdurr. Exdeath is a tree.

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>>737057653
>Final Fantasy Wyvern

>>737057798
>Go play the pixel remaster of V right now
why the fuck would i do that over emulating the snes or the patched gba versions
>It's a great story if you actually pay attention to it
it's literally FF1 meets DQ3 with an even dumber antagonist. i beg you to play more fc rpgs if you think ffv has a good, well told plot
>>737057887
don't you have to level up classes to get those secondary abilities? i didn't say it was complex, i said it was convoluted as in it makes you do a bunch of annoying bullshit

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>>737057990
Focus, W

>>737048132
At least 3, old man.

The 360 is 20 years old

>>737058013
>don't you have to level up classes to get those secondary abilities?
Yes, you level up a job, learn its abilities and then you can pick one of those abilities to use while in another job, if you want. Or, you can use it it while in your current job.
>it makes you do a bunch of annoying bullshit
Such as?

>>737060674
...levelling up a bunch of classes you don't want to play and swapping between them?

Bravely Default did everything FF5 did but better.

>>737055637
Exdeath just wants to get the power of the void and hang out with demons all day

>>737060795
both are excellent
imo BD is a little long/repetitive for the good ending whereas FFV has really great pacing start to finish

>>737060795
BD spread out the jobs way too far. In FFV you get all the jobs except Mime (which is Magic Freelancer, essentially) and the added on GBA jobs before the end of the first third of the game. You get so much time to fuck around with jobs and find your perfect build with full freedom.
You're still getting asterisks over halfway through BD, limiting your options for many different encounters unnecessarily. It's my biggest qualm with BD, because it's a good attempt otherwise at the system.

>>737060729
You don't have to do that, it's all completely voluntary. The game is simply giving you choices, which you can ignore if you want.
It's not like 3 where you occassionally have to have at least one character in a certain job to progress.

>>737061512
saying you can ignore the jobs system is not a point in its favour

>>737046980
So it became Aku?

>>737043653
my NIGGA exdeath...

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He fused the world back together, he's a hero

>>737062639
yes, wrpgs famously lack dungeons

>>737062734
Poor reading comprehension skills

>>737063131
persona has tons of dungeons

>>737063426
Thats not the point

>>737063530
the wojak is literally talking about jrpgs having tons of dungeons. 99% of morrowind is going into dungeons and killing various skeletons and missing key items because you didn't read a guide beforehand

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>>737043653
There is literally nothing wrong with villains who are evil just for the sake of being evil

>>737063756
>the wojak is literally talking about jrpgs having tons of dungeons
No its not, its talking about how JRPG fans want to focus on social relationship dating in their game and get annoyed by dungeons as that gets in the way of dating romance in the game

>>737054868
Mother FUCK

>>737064363
then the problem is with the fans, not the games, and the meme should be titled wrpg fans and jrpg fans

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>>737046980
And what's the lore of the left one?

>>737057653
Western wyverns are my favorite type of dragon, they look so cool

>>737063756
Autism

>>737064483
>then the problem is with the fans, not the games
Well the games determine who the fans are. Like a dandelion attracts bees and a pile of feces attracts flies. You add dating to your game and you attract a certain kind of people

>>737064754
it turns out that jokes don't work if you don't tell them correctly