>>737045864
>Favor the PVE
If they did they would have added some long term goals like group raids against giant bosses or some other shit to break up the usual loop
Hell I would have even taken an arena where you can 1 vs 1 people and place bets on fights

>>737045864
more like it started dying because its biggest advertiser quit the game due to hacking and streamsniping

b-but this was supposed to break the fotm cycle /v/ told me

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>>737045864
PvE babbies will always be fucking obnoxious, they want the game to cater to them and will screech until they're heard and then abandon the game immediately afterwards, meanwhile PvP fanbases can keep the games alive for years provided the devs don't massively fuck up

>>737046330
Strange because the PVP fags screaming about things is the reason PVE players leave, they get fucked over repeatedly by changes focused on the combatards then give up. Then because theres no easy kills all the PVP fags have to fight each other, have to play against people as sweaty as they are and then they too give up because game hard.

>>737045864
when will people take the singleplayerpill?

>>737045864
People only played this because their favorite streamerinos were playing it. When those streamers got paid to play something else, they moved on too.

>>737045864
>Screw over the PVP
I Dont play fag raiders but pretty sure all they did was match PVP players against each other

>>737046825
We've known since Dark Souls that PVP players don't like fighting each other when they could be fighting PVE players

>>737046152
>>737045864
>actually adding content to live service extraction slop
Day 1 I knew no one was going to be playing this shit in 6 months. No matter what they add it would still be "grind

I will never understand how people expect games without an external marketplace or economy to retain six digit players. Literally you see it every time tf2 or cs update, their playercounts go to like 30-50k until the bots get turned back on and it spikes back up a few hundred thousand.

>>737045864
It was going to lose it anyway, nothing lasts forever and the e-beggars move on as their audience gets bored on top of it

>>737046330
pvp trannys are far worse which is why every pure pvp game ends up with abysmal populations or out right dies
you need a heavy balance of both modes to keep your game at S tier population

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I dont understand pvpfags whining. The abundance of PvE players means you can kill them in the game and they'll be more upset than ever - and it's still really easy to do this. All you have to do to win a fight in Arc is get the drop on somebody. And you're getting dopamine from killing the very people you say you hate the most basically on demand, and they rage about it.

This is the greatest opportunity since the invention of cereal.

Extraction shooters are just way too advanced and high iq for your average gamer.
It was a nice experiment and it's sad that it failed.

>>737045864
>another streamer/youtuber bait shooting slop game run out of advertisement money for e-celebs

>>737047002
the whole fps skill-based matchmaking flub suggests it's way before that

>>737045864
>pvp community upset because they are predominantly lobbied with other pvp players
Is this another fear of redman projection of salt situation all over again?

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>>737045864
>screw over the PvP one
PvP insists on itself by nature. Close Scrutiny incentivized PvP indirectly, and that's how the game needs to continue to grow.
All they need to do is continue adding banger PvE like the last couple of updates and the game will keep getting better and better.

I'm pretty sure most of the people waiting to play again are waiting for the new map, and don't even know they just added 2 new guns, one of the most fun and dangerous arc yet, and possibly even the hurricane or the other 2 arcs.
When people return, they're going to have a LOT of content to dig into AND Embark seems to be on a role with their 'Major Update at end of every month' cadence, and I've never seen a game put out quality content at such a high rate.

Also Arc Raiders doesn't get enough love for being super immersive and very "choose what you want to do and how you want to play" bc there's so much variety in terms of what gameplay your searching for
want to frag? go PvP till your dick falls off and freekit
love the fantasy of MP shadow of the colossus? go fight giant arcs. got quests, unlocks or projects to complete? go do that.
Game reminds me of Sea of Thieves
>>737046558
So ironic, they're just weak and they'd rather complain then admit it. Truth is, Embark will never ever ever be able to satisfy either side, so all they really need to do is keep adding cool shit that's fun and making an increasingly fun and immersive experience out of the game.

>>737047526
reminds me of world pvpers on WoW
>spend 500 hours ganking low lvls and grey npcs
>someone their lvl shows up and beats them once
>starts whining nonstop about how world pvp is dead while they're in ghost form

Im glad i got my character resources and leveled up before the firefly update cause fuck trying to deal with them otherwise. I imagine it's just instant death if one locks on to you with a cheap loadout. And unlike rocketeers fireflies are fucking everywhere.

Adding shredders to other maps is based though.

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>>737045864
meanwhile, a game that favors PvPfags
>devs had to make a "stop killing on sight please" event to stop sweats from killing entire lobbies
>doesn't help

>all these giga popular games lose fuck ton of players when there's nothing new even coming out
Where are they even going?

>>737045864
its because the devs last few content updates suck, they fail to ban cheaters even ex bans for cheaters who cinstantly show up in streamer vods, an poor weapon balancing

I posted this in your other thread but I don't think the PvE community is leaving, it's morelike the PvP lobbies are, takes me about 5 seconds to find a game everytime.
Arc Raiders using ABMM insted of SBMM is actually very refreshing. 10 games of PvE and the game changes to Borderlands Online with friendly-fire. It's comfy and I jump on after work with a can now and again.

>>737045864
>game has less players than when it launched
shocking, totally not something that happens to every fucking game

>>737048114
For the streamerfags and their followers, theyre on other popular game or whatevers giving them money.
Actual gamers theyre on Warframe, Skyrim, Stardew, CK, or whatever they were playing previously.
Those playing because of friends are on whatever other game their friends are on, likely something older theyre all already invested in ebcause the novelty has worn off.

>>737045864
>Screw over the PVP one
How is 'making PVP players fight other PVP players' screwing them over? Unless you're implying PVP players can't stand one another but somehow expect others to stand them, lmao.

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kek. arc down 80%, crimson desert down 75% too. singa zoomers, you lost.

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Everytime I play this game it reminds me of the episode in Cowboy Bebop where they're looking through an abandoned building for a Betamax

>>737048020
cope, tranny. you lost.

>>737048020
>devs had to make a "stop killing on sight please" event to stop sweats from killing entire lobbies
Please tell me you're joking.

>>737048020
>devs had to make a "stop killing on sight please" event to stop sweats from killing entire lobbies
QRD on this please? Sounds hilarious because everyone knows by now that PVPfags are relentless.

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>>737049225
>>737049062
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_carri

>>737049309
>They sincerely thought a 'lets work together!' event would stop the sociopaths that are pvp-players
Jej. You can't stop them from emptying lobbies. They don't play for fun, they play to ruin other people's fun.

>>737049414
>They don't play for fun, they play to ruin other people's fun.
which is exactly why they bitch and moan about ARC Raiders' aggression-based matchmaking so much

>>737049309
>make an extraction shooter
>pvp game no less
>a genre where trust is naturally in the gutter because everyone is out there to fuck you over for the scraps in your bag
>GEE WHY ARE PEOPLE KILLING ON SIGHT?
How fucking stupid are marathon devs. Has to be close to the average iq of shills here.

>>737045864
>how are game developers so braindead

Why do faggot like you want every game to be some endless GaaS slop where you can waste your entire pathetic sad life in it? Like what's your end goal?

>>737049617
The aim of the game is to get in, and get out without dying and with better loot than you entered with.
Logically this would result in players trying to stay away from one another, conflict risks death, risk is against the point of the game.
Except that's not how PvPfags work, they don't give a shit about losing gear, or failing quests, or whatever. As long as they can kill other players in the most comically cowardly ways to pad their K/D and to ruin people's experiences, they are satisfied.

>>737049309
where's the "stop killing on sight please" part?

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>>737048020
meanwhile 8 year old PvPvE extraction shooter

>>737049747
I kill other players to get out with more loot than I brought in. Killing others has a risk, but it is also infinitely more fun than playing a single player cupboard opening simulator.

>>737047285
Most played games are csgo and dota 2, 0 pve whatsoever.

>>737045864
Extraction shooters were never going to be the next big thing regardless of how hard they pushed the genre

>>737049896
>I kill other players to get out with more loot than I brought in
No, you hide at the extraction point and 2 hit KO them by running out behind a corner before they even knew you were there. That's not fun for them.

Isn't the only appeal of extraction slop to feel hardcore?

>>737045864
>give the PVPfags unlimited PVP
>they don't like it and want PVEfags
??????????????????

Finally, I didn't get how it lasted so long in the first place. Everyone knew the problem but they still never fixed it. Worst matchmaking system I've ever seen in a game, but at least you can now say aggression based matchmaking doesn't work.

>>737050058
>they don't like it and want PVEfags
Happens every time.
PVEfags at least admit they want to just chill out and shoot at mindless AI targets.
PVPfags pretend to be hardcore gamers while insisting they fight 1:1KD-at-best targets.

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>>737050058
I admit, I like preying on weak in multiplayer games.
But I also don't mind getting ganked in those games because that's part of the experience.
Normalfags will never get it.

I'm not having any issues. Just go afk and chill/die fast for 10 or so runs until you get into carebear lobbies and then you just rape and dismember all the female and (step)dad """gamers""".

>>737046152
That's the Matriarch and Harvester events

>>737049778
it's not stop killing per se more like if you help players you'll get rewards

This game and blowathon just make me miss Tarkov, that shit was perfect.

>>737050415
SPT is still waiting for you anon.

>>737045864
>>737050058
Yes exactly this, and the exact same thing happened in Dune Awakening too. They split the endgame zone to offer a full PvP one, and a PvE version (the latter having considerably less loot) and the Rust children larping as "PvPers" all threw a hissy fit because what they really wanted was easy prey so they could satisfy fragile egos with sealclubbing.

TLDR never trust anyone who claims they want to "PvP". They're dishonest lying scum and usually third worlders.

>>737045864
>try game out
>pvpniggers with more map and game knowledge and good equipment assrape you repeatedly
>pvefags lose interest in game
>pvpfags run out of newbies to bully so they are forced to fight each other and consequently lose interest

meanwhile retarded pve-only game like Warframe is already more popular than Arc

>>737045864
Does anyone even play this? yeah it was cool for a little while, but now I've seen everything it has to offer and have no reason to return

>>737047368
Thats not what sbmm does, its forcing a 50/50 W/L average. The only way to actually do that is by eventually forcing you to play with someone objectively better to force a loss out of you.

Thats the complete opposite implication of what its supposed to be doing. Then you have shit like Rivals that force bot matches if you lose.

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Theburntpeanut explained it perfectly, what ive been saying too;
Devs were given lightening in a bottle, a perfectly game. Yet after launch they did nothing to add meaningful content. Its been half a year since release and we've gotten 1 new map and 3 new guns and a few weather events
There is no endgame still either
Once you have all the loot and blueprints there is literally nothing to do
I wanted to love Marathon, it actually has loads of content unlike Arc. Too bad Marathon is just not fun.
Arc raiders is fun, but there isn't a lot here.
Thats what buying a game from Eurocucks gets ya. They have no work ethic unlike us Americans. They took 2 months off for Christmas break. Here in America we are lucky to get 1 day off for Christmas, and it pays off.
Manifest MOTHER FUCKIN destiny. Euros cant fuckin comprehend it, hence their failing nation/products
Arc Raiders is just another example of that.

>>737050415
>Tarkov but with <60 second queue to into match like Arc
Would be perfect, I can deal with so much of Tarkov's bullshit but the queue just kept being unbearable at some point. Its one thing to die within a minute because of spawn checking if your queue is like 60 seconds, and another if its 5+ not including gearing back up

>>737050001
the are the past big thing lol

>>737050454
I am not a transsexual, no thanks, "sister".

>>737049617
Bungie is extremely retarded
they marketed the game to the hardcore pvp shooters and got that kind of crowd to play the game
but they don't whale, are a small group, and will just hop into another game after they turn into the "casuals"
They have no excuse for the lacking PvE enemies, they have a decade if not more of experience with Destiny, the fact that they're not trying to make a PvE mode is just their retardness in display because they're always in the right and the players are wrong(unless it's a streamer)
If you want more bungie retardness just look at destiny
>>737050454
Did they fix it after Tarkov released their own PvE mode?

>>737050734
All big games come from the EU, the commie troons in NA cant make good products anymore

>>737050734
>Marathon
>Loads of content

You lost me.

>>737045864
Arc Raiders is actually losing players because everyone has moved to Marathon. Don't listen to fake news from Leftoid EU peasants!

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I had fun with it, but I never expected it to be anything more than a FOTM. After two Expeditions I realized that I was doing all this shit for nothing, that the game was just Fortnite: Extraction Shooter edition and that the Sw*dish devs were incompetent and possibly retarded. And rather than re-invest their huge earnings from the game back into their -live service game-, they decided to start development on two more additional games instead.

>>737045864
the real problem is they added nothing for no one.
they haven't done shit other than add grinds to grind for grindsake
sadly they are not making an mmo so that doesn't work

>>737046825
Which is like genocide to PvP players. They don't want to play against other people who want to kill them.

>>737050883
whats the fucking point then, never played the game but sounds retarded

>>737050734
>Marathon, it actually has loads of content unlike Arc.
>3 and a half map all which are smaller than all maps in tarkov

>>737050865
is he eating glue?

>>737050734
Yes keep pumping meaningless updates and qol until the game is irrecognisable from its former self and the playerbase abandons. Shut the fuck up, nigger, shart raiders sucks, it was a fotm social event from day one, move on to the next streamerbait title.

>>737050734
marathon doesnt have loads of content
fewer shittier maps, arc is getting another in 2 weeks btw
fewer enemies
less events

if you call needing to grind out a million fetch quests so you can add +25 to your stamina bar content, then youre retarded

>>737050936
>whats the fucking point then, never played the game but sounds retarded
PVP players don't want to fight people who fight back. They want to just ruin the fun of a bunch of PVE players.
Hence why when PVE players wall off their servers, PVP players freak out despite nothing being wrong with PVE modes.

>>737050936
Don't expect logic from PvP retards, they're all larping for internet clout

>>737050936
to pubstomp
also arc is pretty unique in this regard that you can lie to people and pretend to be friendly then backstab - thats the whole fun of this game which you dont get in retardkoff etc

>>737048020
>had to make
Nigga the road map was revealed before launch, the event you speak of, called “Carri”, to help new players, was already planned. The road map hasnt changed one bit, but i guess this little piece of information doesn’t help your narrative, so by all means, keep lying to these gullible retards lol

This is the power of the burnt peanut.

>>737046825
What is the point of making the game PvEvP then?

>>737049934
delusional little lad

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>>737049782
My man. Hunt has its flaws (mainly the crappy servers) but it's consistent and has been getting new content on a regular basis for years.

>>737050936
to stomp the smaller fish
that has always been a thing with "pvp" fags
they don't want a fair fight
they don't want their opponent to fight back
they want to ambush their opponent before they react, they want to kill the lower-level players with no chance of fighting back
MMO players probably know this a little too well
When fags cry about wanting PvP MMOs, what they want is to camp the starting zones to prevent low level players from getting out and playing the game

>>737050936
Almost all extraction shooters have low enough TTK that the first-shot advantage will usually win you a fight. PVP players will shoot you on sight, while as PVE players won't shoot unless you shoot them first. So PVE players are much easier to kill.
Also PVPers usually have shit loot since they'll just have a free kit 99% of the time.

>>737051215
Top 5:
CS2
Pubg
Dota 2
Slay the spire 2 (fotm)
Apex Legends

>>737051206
You play a PVPVE game and sometimes you get killed by a player. That's fine, that's how it's supposed to work.
You play a PVPVE game and the primary threat which kills you 95% of the time is the same handful of sociopaths. That is not fine and not fun.

>>737051489
How the fuck do people still play rancid garbage like pubg and apesex, has to be the chinks, right?

>>737051283
>When fags cry about wanting PvP MMOs, what they want is to camp the starting zones to prevent low level players from getting out and playing the game
Happens in The Isle
>Lol just killed 10 newly spawned players
Why? They pose no threat, plus did you seriously need your three fucking buddies when you 1 hit KO the new players anyways?
>Well maybe they could've grown up to be a threat to me!
Nigger even if they were fully grown you outnumber them 4 to 1, the fuck are you talking about?

>>737051582
never played apex but why is pubg rancid garbage?

>>737050979
Straight liquid burger flavor, which you are supposed to dilute in water, like 1 liter per drop or something.

>>737046825
Exactly. PVP players hate that.

>>737051673
They went full mobile and pc version is basically a mobile port now. It's also one of the best earning mobile game in the world right now so I guess they made a right decision in a way.

>>737051534
>sociopaths
It’s a game bro. If everyone is just shooting on sight sounds like there’s a game design issue that needs to be addressed and that’s just a shitty bandaid

>>737049414
It actually did, for a day but the rewards are one time only

Extraction shooters hit their peak with arc raiders and now everyone is tired of playing them

>>737049778
>Want to risk some on-the-fly diplomacy for CyberAcme Commendations? As a solo player or a Rook, you’ll earn extra Commendations when you exfil with other players – regardless if they’re a Rook, Runner, or a full crew.
Solo mode was never planned to be in the game, only added because people asked for it
>>737051141
The mercy kit being added this late disprove what (you) said

>>737051809
You're talking to a regular who spews this rhetoric and samefags hard in every mmo/pvpve game. He's a mindraped pve drone.

>nooooooooo let me kick sandcastles until the playerbase is nothing but obnoxious unemployed incels were the most loyal playerbase
pvp is a mental illness

>>737051215
moron

>>737050936
The point is that extraction shooters are retarded

instead of ABBM why don't they have some kind of ingame mechanic that allows players to form an alliance, thus disabling friendly fire between them
having to walk around afraid of being backstabbed by a random player doesn't sound like fun

>>737051809
>If everyone is just shooting on sight sounds like there’s a game design issue that needs to be addressed
When they fix said design issue (Ala Arc Raiders, Dark Souls CoOp Mod, etc), PVPfags freak the fuck out.

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>saw that arc raiders was on sale over at epic around launch
>fell for it and bought it there
>played for about 10-20 hours, was okay
>not a lot of weapons tho
>once i had built all the workbenches i lost all interest and uninstalled
and then the game went on steam sale for the exact same price

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>>737048720
>lost over 72% of the playerbase in a month after launch
i like to check the charts for this game periodically and see it go down every time, little by little. it's very satisfying, somehow

>>737051206
PvPvE should be mainly about the PvP. The PvE elements are there to highlight the PvP elements. They should force you to be more aware of your surroundings and provide a limited amount of resources that you and your fellow players will generally want to fight over.

>/v/ suddenly hates steam charts
lol

>>737052331
>PvPvE should be mainly about the PvP
So why not just play a PVP game if that's all it devolves into?

>>737050936
They want to kill human loot pinatas, not to play against people who want to kill them back.

>>737051889
Mercy kit is perfect troll tool
revived -> down -> revived -> down

pvefags having another meltdown

>>737052547
Can't you farm the arachne rep with it as well
>downing gives you rep
>revive
>down again

>get ganked while being oblivious doing pve shit in a shooter
WTFFFF WHY ARE THESE FLIPPIN PSYCHOPATHS ATTACKING MEEEE
>get ganked while being oblivious doing pve shit in lol/dota
Fuck ofc he ganks me, i was in a bad place not paying attention to the map

What gives?

>>737052406
I love steam charts when it shows a game I hate doing poorly or a game I like doing well.
I hate steam charts when it shows a game I like doing poorly or a game I hate doing well.
What's so hard to understand?

>>737052331
You'll love Maraathon

>>737052638
Fps players are an unvelievably casual audience. Like bordering gacha phoneshit casual instant gratification addicts.

>>737052638
Nobody calls DOTA/LOL a PVPVE game, there's NPC's but nobody ever considers them a major part of the game.
Why do you get upset when the PVE players move onto a PVE mode if you want the game to be so PVP focused? You can fight other PVP players all to yourself now!

More like favored no community.
They never made PvP more interesting, it's just greycunts killing greycunts for greygear because anything else sucks and takes too much effort to hold on to regardless.
They never made PvE more interesting, it's just the same meta for no worthwhile reward because again EVERYTHING BLUE TIER AND ABOVE STILL SUCKS FUCKING DICK.
It's a game where the grind has zero appeal in either fucking direction.
I cannot believe people played it for as long as they did.

>>737052816
The jungle and creep waves are not a major part of assfags, they are the defining characteristic.

>>737052915
And yet nobody not once ever considered them a credible threat combat wise lmao.

>>737052816
Calm down, pvesister...

>>737045864
Extraction shooters are pretty much a bad mix of horde games like helldivers and battle royal.

>>737052975
The bosses cannot be killed solo and can rape you and mega creeps threaten to just end your game if not addressed...
You are clueless.

>>737053058
>An extraction shooter with no teams is the same as a team-based MOBA
This is your brain on PVP, jej

>>737053158
Grasping at straws

>>737052638
>get ganked while being oblivious doing pve shit in lol/dota
is more like
"suka yebany hui kotol i report you" *starts pinging the map and goes down mid to feed*

>>737045864
u r dumb
there is just not enough players to play all these live service games, specially when most of them are playing Roblox, Fortnite and gacha on their phones.

this reminds me of the whole pvp being fucked in elden ring due to busted meta weapons, but rebalancing it wouldn't make sense and would fuck with the core pve gameplay.

>>737053183
I'm sorry but shooting that clueless PVE retard in the back of the head while he's looting a can of beans is not exactly what anybody would consider some sort of hardcore gameplay.

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>>737052406
>>737052650
typical contrarianism on /v/
makes sense since most of the users on this board don't even play games

>>737053258
>while he's looting a can of beans
kek

>>737053258
Non-sequitur

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>>737045864
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE THIS ONLINE SERVICE GAME ONLY HAS 80K PLAYERS AFTER SIX MONTHS
>IT'S OVER IT'S OVER IT'S SO FUCKING OVER 80K IS UNSUSTAINABLE

>>737052493
Did you try reading my post? It improves the PvP experience. It increases the skill ceiling. Simply being good at aiming and having good reflexes is no longer enough, you need to learn how to deal with each enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible, you need to choose your equipment wisely since the items that are effective against players aren't necessarily effective against non-players, you need to learn how to properly position yourself to avoid getting shot in the back while you're fighting off enemies. It also means that it is now easier to locate your enemies (or to be located yourself) since killing mobs should make noise and leaves a bunch of corpses lying around.

>>737053258
FPS players the downies of gaming, you should not bully them just because they are challenged. You're right.

>>737052638
>get ganked while being oblivious doing pve shit in lol/dota
>>>Fuck ofc he ganks me, i was in a bad place not paying attention to the map
No moba olayer reacts like this. It's more like
>WHAT THE FUCK WHERE THE FUCK IS MY TEAM WHY DID YOU LET THIS HAPPEN YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK DICK YOU FUCKING RETARDED MONKEYS HOW THE FUCK DID I TAKE SO MUCH DAMAGE I SHOULD HAVE WON THAT CHAMPION IS FUCKING BUSTED I HATE META NIGGERS

>>737045864
>>PVE leaves because it's compossed of normalfags
Huh? If normies were playing, why would they leave?

Are you ok? Do you smell burnt toast?

No, the issue is: GaaS (*fart*) sloppa that doesn't update weekly like Fartshite eventually gets boring.

>>737053183
CoD is my favorite PvPvE game, all you need to do is capture flags and stand in specific areas, no interaction with the other team is necessary to secure a win.

>>737053398
no kidding, I play games that only have hundreds of players and I have my fun

>>737053404
It doesn't improve the PVP experience because it floods the game with people who don't actually want to PVP.
So now most of your targets are basically passive bots which aren't worth shooting at.
But this also promotes the most laughably psychopathic players to join in, cheaters, etc.

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>>737045864
Fortunately we have a product for the PVP community, Marathon.

>>737053504
>>737053398
I played Team Fortress 2 on the Xbox 360 which had an active playerbase of barely 300 people during peak.

It's actually baffling watching youngfag retards cry about anything sub 250K being dead.

>>737045864
>>Favor the PVE community
>>Screw over the PVP one
the entire game is balanced so that freeggers with stitcher 1s can kill someone with a fully kitted anti-ARC character and vendor all of their shit

>>737053475
>>737053185
X'D
Epic references to those non-indicative funny videos of 15 years ago, brothers.

>>737053721
>mobatranny pretending he doesn't act like a monkey when he gets ganked
Of course

>>737053519
>it floods the game with people who don't actually want to PVP
Just don't market the game as a primarily PvE game. The stuff that bosses drop should make you a target and should FORCE you into PvP encounters whether you like it or not. Like, the bounties in Hunt. And you should be rewarded for killing other players for any reason, in Hunt for instance, you get lots of cash and XP. The people who really dislike PvP will naturally stop playing the game once they realize that the game is not for them. And once they stop playing, the psychopathic players you're talking about will also stop playing. They'll only drop in every now and then during steam sales to fuck over new players which is better than nothing.

>>737054019
There are no muh psycopaths ganging up on the poor clueless retards, it's just another clueless retard in his bracket that managed to kill him, he is just coping out the ass over that.

>>737054019
>Just don't market the game as a primarily PvE game
But then you won't bring in the PVE players (most of the playerbase)
Not once did a PVEnigger bitch about CoD being about deathmatches. Suspiciously PVPniggers love to bitch about PVE games lacking PVP though.

>>737053496
False equivalence, you spend most of the time macroing in assfaggots. Next shitty attempt.

>>737054239
>most of the playerbase
Proof?

>>737052239
>it's very satisfying, somehow
Probably due to the inorganic as fuck shilling it got (and still gets) on /v/.

>>737054239
>PVEnigger bitch about CoD being about deathmatches
They did when multiplayer only cod came out

>>737054114
Fair enough.

>>737054239
See >>737049782

>>737045864
>fotm was moved on from because the company stopped paying streamers to play their game.
I don't see how that is a problem or how the devs are retards, they made a bazillion for some shitty uninspired sci-fi tarkov knockoff

>>737054481
In what way is that evidence?

>>737054596
8 year old PvPvE game that focuses on PvP having a consistently high amount of concurrent players. And if you bitch about 30k being low you're beyond help.

>>737054834
>you can't bitch about my paultry 30k because
PvPbros...

I will never understand the hype behind extraction shooters.
Shits fucking boring.

>>737054967
My fav streamerino plays it

>>737054967
immersion innit

>>737054937
Concession accepted. You may carry on being retarded elsewhere.

>>737054967
They're fun. The stakes are higher than regular old shooters. The fact that they're usually slower-paced than regular shooters is nice too since I'm an old man with terrible reflexes.

the only PVP chads that bitch about PVE players are the shitters who gank low level or fresh max level players and run away when a pvp player shows up to kill them (and then call it a win)
the only time a pvp chad should bitch about pve is if they are forced to do it in order to be competitive in pvp

>>737045864
>shixtraction shooter
>no story mode whatsover
>dies when casuals drop it
You get no sympathy from me. The writing was on the wall from day one.

>>737046643
all the kill time daily games are online tho now
i have severe chronic pain i have to be on an edible to play that shit
i need more casual singleplayer games the industry is so shit now lol
theres good stuff but i miss the old 7/10 games of the 6th and 7th gen

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>>737045864
wait does it actually cater to pve fags? are there pve only server? maybe i'll actually play it now

>>737045864
>subgenre of a subgenre
Extraction shooters are niche.

Fuck you OP, and fuck your twitter screenshot threads.
Arc Raiders is a scam, it's barely an "early access" game. That's all. Who the fuck wants to play something like that 24/7? Besides even if it was the best game on this fucking planet it is still just a game and not a job.
Drink bleach, OP. You deserve it.

>>737045864
>>Favor the PVE community
>>Screw over the PVP one
>make the most popular entry in the genre
they won

>>737045864
so? You buy the game and they get your money. It doesnt matter if you play for 10 hours or 1000 hours.

>>737046558
> Then because theres no easy kills all the PVP fags have to fight each other, have to play against people as sweaty as they are and then they too give up because game hard.
Tale as old as time.

>>737056003
what about server costs

I just bought this. Did I fuck up?

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Why is this thread up but mine got insta deleted? FUCK JANNIES!

>>737050134
It's a really good game fundamentally. It's not over yet, the update everyone's waiting for is this month.

>>737056869
Why are you posting your off topic shit in this thread then?

>>737045864
>how are game developers so braindead
Greed.

>>737047015
But they are, not only that but the game has gotten 3 new arc and 2 new weapons in the last month alone, and another giant arc in less than 2 weeks. They plan on releasing major content like this literally at the end of every month, which is nuts.
>>737046152
They just added close scrutiny, which has so many of the nastiest flying arc in the game + the new vaporizer, and changes raid mechanics to accomodate. Also there's been giant arc you can fight, like co-op Shadow of the Colossus, 2 of them, and a third coming next week.

>>737045864
The real problem is that Embark are slow as snails when it comes to patching bugs, and making content
The game hasn't had a proper content update since Stella Montis (which wasn't a real content release as it was just stuff withheld from release)

>>737057536
5 dollars have been added to your Arc account

>>737050936
The reason pvpniggers in arc are looked down on it because they're not actually PvPers, if they were they would be playing another game
They specifically want to shoot people in the back while theyre looting, maximum sense of power with bare minimum risk

Tldr they're fags

>>737057612
Im sorry bro im just being honest.

endgame just isnt very interesting; there's fuck all to do
I've gone on expedition twice and had enough
if you just wanna PVP there's better games for that

>>737057321
Because both games are a fucking failure?

I quit when they screwed me over on my first expedition.

>>737057741
A reason why I stopped playing was because the game is lopsided in favor pf pvp when it tries to present itself as an ambiguous game where you're having to choose on the fly to cooperate or fight other players. You have good reasons for not attracting attention to yourself by fighting npc robots, because then you're also drawing in other nearby enemies or pvp players. And, you have motivation to get good at fighting the robots and taking them down fast. But if you're just a freekit nigger you can happily make all the noise you want with no downside because you have nothing to lose, downing players is piss-easy, and chances are they're carrying better loot than you would find on your own since they're curating their inventory. There needs to be a reason -not- to simply shoot everyone on sight for 20 minutes, and there isn't one.

I liked the mechanic in The Division's dark zones where players who attacked one another got a marker tag with a cooldown. If you wanted to pvp, you had to consider that after the first one people are going to see you coming once you got into range - which meant the pve players had a chance to turn it into a game of cat and mouse, and pvp players had an invitation to come and do some pvp. If Arc had something like that, you would need to be more strategic about who and when you attack, and it would add tension to the game as the round came to a close regarding if someone was going to go for a last minute betrayal after playing clean for the time that you saw them.

>>737050734
>Marathon
>Loads of content
>3 months between major updates with content
>Arc
>in the newyear cadence, it's looking to be major updates every month, and wipe every two
Your image is AI and your post looks lile it too.
You lost me on the loads of conteng bc that's just a fucking lie. There's no enemy variety and less maps than arc, 1 you can only do squads and on weekends. That's like if arc was only dam thru spaceport and bluegate was werkend only.

The only new thung they're adding in june is night raid on one map, something every map has in arc, on top of like 4 other map conditions arc has, 9 or 10 if you count minor ones

>>737052147
You haven't even killed a matriarch or vaporizer, hell the queen
Bet you haven't done harvester and gitten equalizer or jupiter bp either

>>737045864
I'm not convinced this is an actual game. It's supposedly possible but I've never seen or heard a thing about it elsewhere.

>>737059727
maybe because you arent the center of the universe princess

>>737052827
Grandpa, they fixed the weapon balance over a month ago now. All the grey weapons are ass and get mulched by better weapons or gear. Even the green il toro got nerfed and isnt a two tap on medium now. And venator is good but not op. Epic guns are meta, some blues. Overall balance for pvp and pve feels right

>>737059812
That's the point, dumbass. You'd think even at the periphery, such a supposedly widely popular game would have people talking about it on occasion.

>>737053610
See >>737059847
This has not been an issue for over a month now

>>737054967
Arc is barely one, and its kino. Its like an immersive sandbox that feels near persistent and you can run into violent robots or violent people, who knows? Maybe even a friend. It's fun.

>>737055739
If you dont shoot people you can be in friendly chungus land to your hearts content. If you do, you can reset it by having good karma

>>737059951
it been talked about here constantly since the tech test 2, it has a general and had multiple threads on /vm/
people who were even broadly interested in the extraction shooter genre or even just people who play shooters heard about it
not even going to include any ecelebs because no real human watches those

>>737049778
I think the biggest incentive to stop killing on sight is the bonus "CARRI" points you get for exfiling with other players in the 1-party mode, or if you're playing rook.
AKA: If you exfil with someone who is not a part of your squad, you get extra points which can be spent towards room keys.
Your results may vary because the CARRI event also gives you points for doing other things for your squadmates. It's a nice change-up but I'm glad it's just an event and not a permanent feature. These things are better as events.

>a game doesn't keep its playercount forever
>a game has a lower playercount on a weekday afternoon than it does on the weekends
The most retarded part of all this is the steam chart spam shitting up /v/ is now being picked up by clickbait """"""""""""""news""""""""""""""" twitter accounts.

>>737050734
>theboiledpenis said
Can't you come up with your own opinion? Why did you need to quote some retard streamer?
>aislop image
I think I got my answer.

>>737052147
Why would it matter if steam had the sale later? Is this a webstore loyalty thing? You wouldn't have had a different outcome if your money for this trash game went to gayben instead of timmeh.

>>737054967
Redditors and NEETs with valueless time think it's "exciting" to risk losing every ounce of progress you make at any given moment.

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>>737045864
Come home, PvE(optional)vP extraction player

>>737047310
>I dont understand pvpfags whining
because pvp games naturally attract hyper douche whining types that never have actual solutions