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Every year in April Valve employees have a 2 weeks Hawaii vacation 04/16/26(Thu)14:21:19 No.737049334
Every year in April Valve employees have a 2 weeks Hawaii vacation 04/16/26(Thu)14:21:19 No.737049334
Every year in April Valve employees have a 2 weeks Hawaii vacation Anonymous 04/16/26(Thu)14:21:19 No.737049334 [Reply]▶
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>>737049334
In Hawaii?
Who do you think gaben is banging (or getting banged by?)
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>>737050007
Valve is one of the few companies not being affected by layoffs since they're privately-owned, and thus aren't rewarded by braindead investors pumping the stock whenever they layoff half their workforce.
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>>737049525
>recognized the bottom left one
I'm already lost in the sauce, breh
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>>737050341
>Epic is also privately owned
I think that depends on your definition of "private."
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>>737049525
it there anything to visit in Hawaii besides these?
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>>737049334
I have been effectively retired since 25.
Wowee 2 weeks off!
>>737049525
Fucking gross. I sure hope Gabe gets something better that that with his billions.
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>>737051463
>"Yes, I enjoy working 12-16 hour shifts for DEAR CORPORATION. But look at these sellouts at Valve! They're being given time off?! DISHONORABRU!"
But having time off is a good thing.
>"IF I MUST SUFFER, EVERYONE MUST SUFFER."
Truly, the wailing of the weak-willed and the slurp of fellating of the corporate cock
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>>737051369
There's a reason they and the other tech elites are raking in 500k to low-mid 7 figs yearly.
You need some genius, enough autism and persistent passion to have that much tech shit as your hobby.
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>>737051971
Yeah yeah yeah bitch nigga. If I'm on vacation I'm on vacation simple as. There are 351 days in the year for me to slave...those 2 weeks are literally for me to have for myself. It is literally by literal definition not a vacation if I'm still working.
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It's kind of neat that they've been doing this every single year since they started.
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>>737051884
>mfw steam is so good and the competition is so fuckin bad hat people do not mind giving Gaben that big a cut
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>>737049875
You should be angry about this because you are not working at Valve, passionately making games with other passionate and highly skilled developers that are among the best in the industry, and getting paid a 6-7-figure salary for it.
Instead of all of that, you are on 4chan, clicking threads you have little interest in and posting bait to get replies.
That's why you should be angry.
You won't, though.
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>>737052795
6-7.
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>>737052665
What’s this thirdie squawking about?
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>>737050401
Next you'll be to go by penis recognition.
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>>737052665
Well at least you're honest about being so low tier that you can't imagine getting resort offsites ontop of ~30 day PTOs and other discretionary leaves because 6 hours of output is more than you can do in a month.
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>>737049334
Valve is one of the few remaining American-based companies where you can get a job there and be set for life: very high salary, good benefits, little to no chance of layoffs, stimulating work, stable company financials, etc.
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>Americans get like 2 weeks of vacations a year
>Frequently mad at Sweden where workers typically get a month of vacation a year
>Me the neet, thinking the idea of spending more months a year working than having free time is just retarded slavery and I would never want to do that
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>>737053419
It began in the 80s with Nintendo.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-30-fee-epic-is-fighting-apple-ov er-began-with-/1100-6481363/
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>>737053283
>Dont have to have infinite growth
They don't? Everything gets more expensive all the time. Just keeping the lights on costs more everyday. Doesn't that mean they have to keep making more money, i.e. grow infinitely?
t. bizlet
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>>737053294
There's unironically a point in tech where only corpo work can give you the large scale challenges that are interesting enough to play around with.
Helps that it usually comes with a large pile of cash as well for everybody who isn't fortunate enough to be born rich.
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>>737053659
When you are publicly traded you have a legal obligation in the USA to maximise shareholder return on investment. It's not enough to continuously make a shit tonne of profit every year you have to make more profit every single year or you are "failing" and investors will abandon you. It's a big part of why companies do ass-backwards things like fire half their staff or cancel projects/products that make money, the short term savings looks good on the next earning sheet. Valve is not publicly traded, they have nobody to answer to and can do whatever the fuck they want.
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>>737053675
reminder that digital games were supposed to be cheaper but brick and mortar stores threatened publishers by saying they wouldn't list their games if digital games were cheaper
fucking gamestop fucked over the customer for their own gain
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>>737053659
The difference is that a private company doesn't need to constantly hit new heights to still be very profitable, but a public company is expected to. A private company can make lots of money every year and still have more than enough to keep operating, but a public one has to do that and more to satisfy stockholders so that they don't pull out and screw their finances.
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>>737053949
Side project so there's no expectation of timely maintenance, open source so its public.
People can create Issues to highlight flaws/potential improvements and make PRs that contain the actual code/changes to tackle the above.
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>>737053924
I hope whichever of GabeN's sons or whoever takes over after he dies stays the course as well.
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>>737050447
>swallows 3% of your shitty company's shares
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>>737050075
They fired Firewatch devs: https://www.reddit.com/r/Firewatch/comments/wym4ow/what_are_campo_sant o_members_doing_now/
Valve is no better than Microsoft
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>>737052621
i like gaben and steam but 30% is a big fucking cut.
specially before taxes
it doesnt matter if its industry standard
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>>737054273
>We don’t all hang out because we don’t all work together anymore, as it’s been years at Valve now and peoples lives have gone on in different directions like they do, but I sit next to a bunch of Campo Santo people every day, and/or talk to them on Slack all the time. We aren’t working on In the Valley of Gods, that continues to be true, but a bunch of us worked on Half Life Alyx together and continue to work together day to day.
Literally untrue as proven by your own link, retarded faggot
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>>737052996
Passion while making games, cowardice while shipping them out.
>>737053657
You asked.
>>737054115
It is fun for some.
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>>737050002
It depends on the position I'm pretty sure. The senior guys definitely make bank. But I'm pretty sure they have lots of basically code monkeys working on boring Steam webshit tasks and making "only" like $200k or something. Not everyone at valve gets to just build VR toys for gaben or play deadlock all day
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One day I'll get my Valve chocolates. One day...
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>>737054383
>tfw used to work in texas for a community college and got a week off for spring break, three days for Thanksgiving, two weeks minimum for the winter holidays, Fridays off during the summer months, and all the other random federal holidays as well as a standard vacation accrual package and two personal leave days per year and random days off for hurricanes and shit
>now I work for a university in Idaho and get 6 days a year off
Not working as much for less pay is better than working more for more pay.
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>>737050547
That's a great way to get to hire and retain intrinsically motivated people who will stay motivated. Regular companies basically punish efficient workers - it's basically impossible to stay motivated in that kind of setup since the empty promises all turn out to be cheap lies to milk the last drop of motivation out of their high performers to then dump them after they burn out due to mismanagement and short term thinking and constant micromanagement.
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>>737055157
Yep, it's all about work-life balance.
I'd rather work a job that pays me $70k+$30k benefits and a month and a half of vacation time per year than a job that pays me $100k+$10k in benefits and 2 weeks of vacation time per year.
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Life is so rigged bros...
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>>737054792
No, everyone at Valve is paid disproportionately high. The caveat is that they're bloodthirsty because of it, and if you aren't imminently and visibly irreplaceable at any given time they'll replace you with a prospective who has the potential to do your job better.
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>>737054538
It’s real: https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-laid-off-13-full-time-employees-and-a-po rtion-of-its-contracts-in-february/
Alyx and VR was a failure that they fired new people first.
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>>737055357
Disporportionately, yes, in that you can be a webshitter codemonkey getting respectable six figures, but they definitely don't just pay every single employee 7 figures out of the door
Valve has one of the highest profit to headcount ratios ever, but they're not literally evenly distributing all the profit among employees like some communist commune
>The caveat is that they're bloodthirsty because of it, and if you aren't imminently and visibly irreplaceable at any given time they'll replace you with a prospective who has the potential to do your job better.
Hadn't heard that but I believe it.
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I got a week long trip to Florida from my company for winning this little award for being a good boy.
Too bad I didn't have a gf to bring with me, was kinda boring by myself.
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How cultist do you have to be to care about them going on a vacation
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>>737053646
All people involved in the process had a cut, the storefront, the licenses on consoles and then there was production costs, transportation, licensing fees for media formats, etc.
Game companies get to keep a bigger share of profits in the digital age than ever, which is funny how when that happened and started making unprecedented cash they all started complaining about how prices need to rise too.
Greed is what that was about and nothing more.
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>>737054451
Taxes? Depends on the criminal region, in Cucknada it's like this.
Game is $100
Sold $115, %15 sales taxes
$100 - 30% store cut = $70
50% income tax = ~$35 (it costs $100 to list a Steam game, but that's not a concern)
Thus, from the customer's pocket $115, the studio/dev gets $35, $50 of which goes to the gubmint to prop up the gynocracy.
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Horrifying. I hope the next generation Gabe keeps Steam as it is. It's a money printer and people are happy with it.
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>>737050447
The only definition of “private” is “can’t sell shares on the public market.” You financial illiterates need to stop jerking of “private.” Epic is indeed just as private as Valve and you need to just realize and admit that Valve’s success has nothing to do with being private instead of trying to change what private means.
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>>737056754
SAAS cancer. You'd have to pay $15 a month to play Minecraft, even if you bought 0 games. And they would give you free games too out of this, SJW/Gay/Woke slop, financed by your $15, free as in it's literal propaganda made to destroy your spirit. If you put a bad review on those games you'd get banned too.
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>>737056754
I don't think EGS would have existed without steam, origin and uplay only became a thing because they were getting enough sales on steam that the 30% cut looked too big to ignore
PC sales would probably be really low considering valve single handedly got tons of different regions like russia, south america and japan to start buying games. I think a lot of companies would have never ported their games to PC if steam didn't exist too
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>>737053294
>>Frequently mad at Sweden where workers typically get a month of vacation a year
Actually it's 25 days, excluding Saturday/Sunday so five weeks.
And unless negotiated away the employee have the right to do 4 weeks in a row sometime during June to August.
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>>737057427
>And unless negotiated away the employee have the right to do 4 weeks in a row sometime during June to August
That's wild. I get four weeks a year but i can't imagine stepping away for a solid month without fucking everyone else over.
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>>737056957
100% of money ends up going to taxes. You ignored the dev and steam having to pay income taxes and the taxes you have to pay for using money. Which is good because the government owes 105% of all money to the Rothschilds, plus compounding interest.
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>>737057531
Our winters are so dark and bleak that it makes sense that everyone wants their vacation in the summer. I feel like most companies kind of go into a sort of maintenance mode over the summer due to like 80% of the workforce having vacation
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>>737049525
if im still a virgin by 30 im gonna fuck one of these things
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>>737057531
Wait until you learn about maternity leave, the mom has for example right to be home 7 weeks before she's due to give birth. After birth she can be home 18 months. And there's more I can't remember, I think it was generous to the father as well.
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>>737062538
But that kills most of steams user base, how will Valve afford a new yacht then?
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>>737063208
>get a free holiday away from the American nightmare
>rather be miserable
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>>737058128
thought the same until by 30 you come to realize the true power of being a wizard, especially when you make it a conscious choice
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>>737064116
there does feel like a split, any standards out the window or preserving whatever shred of dignity you still have left
if only the chubby ones weren't the ones always making a move on me before that point maybe I'd be less put off
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Do you anons ever wish you were part of something big? Being the go to guy in some company, or friends with very powerful people. Making some mark in some way to history.
I don't need a lot of money or fame, I just want to be the guy referenced in something (non violent).
>Oh yeah, that's anon. His team rescued those stranded people
>Anon? Yeah, he was the guy that caught a huge exploit that would have cost billions.
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>>737055972
Valve is a funny company, they only target and hire specific kinds of people for any kind of development and big money, the two main criteria is the person is a designer + technical job along with accomplished.
So a majority of the people who are currently hired there were already doing well, good at their facet and mostly hopped over to try to make more impressive things with likeminded people.
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>>737065232
>Anon? Yeah, he was the guy that caught a huge exploit that would have cost billions.
No one says this, ask me how I know. No one cares that you stopped something from potentially happening. Might as well be the one that causes it to happen if that's what you're after.
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>>737065232
>Do you anons ever wish you were part of something big?
Its easy to be a part of something big/end up on actual news everywhere.
Its funny reading about yourself but ultimately nobody actually cares for long.
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Anon you dont want the actual answer, im tryin not to depress you. (the rich ones have them from 13-20)
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>>737065232
>go to guy in some company
I've been there. You don't want to be the go to guy, you're more of a tool than anyone important and your work is often accredited to others.
If you want to leave your mark in a way that anyone gives a shit about, you have to be one who makes waves or as in your example, the guy did the exploit instead.
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>>737049334
I’m in Eastern EV, and I can’t help but feel a bit envious of Shartmericans. The winter here feels like it never ends, and it’s such a downer; I can only post on 4cuck and go for same incel walks. Honestly, I’d rather be a hobo in Hawaii, live in a van, just fish and forage for food all day than be stuck here. I'd put some solar panels on my roof so I can get some electricity, I wouldn't shit outside I would carry pocket shovel and burry my shit. It's april and it's still cold here, fuck my nigger life.
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>>737050075
>Valve is one of the few companies not being affected by layoffs since they're privately-owned
epic is also privately owned, yet they fired a fuckton of people
why do you suck corporate dick? they're not your friends, public or private
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>>737069217
No, steam was absolute fucking trash when it came out. It simply was mandatory to play cs then HL2 and css. Which means it already had a big base by default. Then big sales came in and that was it.
The cool features came years after.
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It isn't, it cost absolutely nothing to make your own, especially nowadays.
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>>737064423
It's weird, not skele but barely above underweight, yet these chicks who have no confidence somehow drum it up to lust after me. Fags too so take it as you willits the reason I was the wizard in the first place, took like 4 failed relationships to realize normal girls sharing mutual affection can be a real thing
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>>737064423
Also 30. This feels like a dumb question, but what should I be doing to meet people? I started dating someone for the first time earlier this year, but they ghosted me about 2 months ago. We met at my local arcade and they were the one to initiate, so I didn't really have to do anything. Not expecting that to ever work again. Didn't really know I wanted it until it happened. Kinda painful now. I think about her every day.
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>>737049525
>marketing yourself based on your ability to give handjobs
honestly big L for 'L'eela. handjobs and oral from women are mid, gay dudes have it figured out but they have a natural advantage as they possess a penis and know it's not a churn-staff to be deathgripped.
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>daily Valve shill thread - Valve treats employees well edition
Meanwhile IRL they tried to lure a kid from Germany who leaked HL2 with fake job offering.
Valve's toxic work environment is also well known. Remember when Valve leaked their own fake employee handbook? Spreading charades about how you can do whatever you want at Valve while in reality if you don't appear "productive" meaning sucking up to top dogs (gabe and other shareholders) you won't receive any bonus and get kicked out.
The true muscle of Valve is contractors they hire, 3rd party companies and of course the game devs/publisher that use Steam to sell their games. If you code monkeys unironically believe there is a paradise out there for game devs at Valve you are gravely mistaken. It's just like any corporation or worse.
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>>737053294
>>Frequently mad at Sweden where workers typically get a month of vacation a year
for swedish game devs it feels like they're off 6 months a year
fatshart basically does nothing the entirety of winter and summer because "too cold" and "too hot"
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>>737071383
/v/ is notorious for housing a den of unfunny anons who made worshipping Valve their personality even though they weren't relevant as a dev studio for 15 years now
whatever is written here in an act to call out their retardation they will forget tomorrow and keep spamming their same and tired forced memes about Valve and how they are different than other icky corporations
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>>737057158
Neither are listed on the NASDAQ/NYSE or any other public stock exchange so both are private companies. However, when Gabe Newell and Mike Harrington founded Valve they agreed upon a 50/50 split, when Mike left in like 2000-something Gabe took some of his shares so he's like an estimated 60%~ majority owner. Valve doesn't have ANY public institutional investors so they have ZERO SEC disclosure requirements unlike Epic. Epic is required by law as they have multiple big corporate fingers in their pot. If Gabe decides that tomorrow the entire studio will shift to development of Riccochet 3 and that the cafeteria will now only serve vegan lasagna then that is his call. Tim Sweeney needs to call a board meeting with Sony and Tencent (and Kirby apparently) before deciding to shift Fortnite's development from Disney-centric experiences to a visual novel with over 200 characters.
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>>737053824
>There's unironically a point in tech where only corpo work can give you the large scale challenges that are interesting enough to play around with.
I really hope you're speculating and not saying that from personal experience.
The only thing corpo work gives you is an appreciation for simplicity. 99.99999% of tech challenges in corpo work are self induced.
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>>737071383
They had a very good run for games, and then Steam is the least rapey storefront that's functional, and when they lose a court case, they usually comply in a user friendly way to turn a loss into a win, banking that complying will make them more attractive over their competitors and increase customer confidence, and they've been right, because people will actively praise them and not budge from using them even with other storefronts giving away free games.
Valve itself is a bit of a meme, a myth company at this point.
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OH WOW THEY HAVE 2 WEEKS OF FREEDOM OUT OF THE EENTIRE YEAR SLAVING AWAY FOR A BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY?!?!!> GOMMMGGGGGGG IM GONNA COOOM CHOOM!111
meanwhile im over here with 24/7 freedom always go anywhere and do anything i want and have more money than i can ever spend unless i start buying mansions
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>>737073458
>yeah actually i dont want to make 300k a year working on whatever i feel like that's basically slavery
neet cope
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>>737073856
>make big bucks at tech company
>make enough money to retire early and live an upper middle class lifestyle
>be neet living off of welfare
>live like a third worlder
>have no choice but to commit suicide if the government ever turns off the free money faucet
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The ones making that kind of money are old valve seniors who literally have shares on the company but you don't read the thread illiterate nigger
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>>737071227
true. the sucking up part and general high school bullshit cliques of in-house politics where some are more equal than others sounds like a nightmare to navigate daily. looking at their history of clinton donations, campo santo, and sweet baby, you just know you're one thought crime away from getting fired
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>>737074156
>the sucking up part and general high school bullshit cliques of in-house politics where some are more equal than others sounds like a nightmare to navigate daily.
No clue if it's still that bad these days, I've heard they did some changes internally.
After there 10+ year period of doing jack shit seems to have ended it's probably cooled down since then but who knows how much of an impact it's made to all of that shit.
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>>737049334
Is that impressive for Valve? I'm in the UK, work for a US tech company, I get 8 weeks of PTO + UK Bank Holidays (8 days) + 2 random company days off our CEO is just giving out randomly giving during the year. Sure we're not sent to Hawaï, but 8 weeks of PTO considering my salary are worth much more than a plane ticket and some hotel room and I don't even make that much because salaries here are low. (£110K/year)
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