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If Nintendo did this, would they go out of business or is that an exaggeration? Imagine they only ported almost decade old games, BOTW, Mario Odyssey.
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The brand would definitely suffer, and it would affect sales of new games because you will always think of "eventually...".
You would also kill a lot of your brainwashed maniacs, so the long-term loss would be greater, I believe.
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nintendo has the same trash core values as apple, artificial scarcity, never ever concede anything since once you give an inch youll never be able to overprice anything again.
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>>737054568
Nutendo is too anticonsumer to do anything but wring out as many cents from you as possible
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>>737054568
They would quadruple their income, and reduce piracy by half.

Even Sony realized this a decade ago... but now they decided to retreat from this free money-printing cashcow and push for "more shitty exclusives!", simply to have even more power over their whale tribalists.
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>>737055523
i heard their latest ports weren't selling
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>>737054568
why would they give valve 30% for free
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>>737055789
>port nothing but dogshit, none of the titles fans have asked for
>"Why isn't it selling?"
300IQ moves
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>>737055084
I don't see how this wouldn't just be wringing out more cents
>>737055056
>m-m-MUH ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY
and that's how you prevent your business from reaching new customers
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>>737054568
the death of the console is the death of video games
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pc gamers do not spend money
sony learned this the hard way
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>>737055789
>i heard their latest ports weren't selling
Gee--- it's like releasing universally panned AAA movie slop (most of it UE5 trash to boot) for 90 fucking dollars onto a market with 10,000 games dropping each year would be a STUPID idea.

Also, Death Stranding floppen on Playstation, but became a smash hit on PC. In other words: just make GOOD GAMES, bro.
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>>737056096
the pc ports were bait so you could feel more compelled to buy it on their console
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>>737055912
If you're a big publisher, Valve takes a smaller cut.
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>>737054568
If they port their games they can't sell their consoles.
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>>737054568
Their games would sell astronomically, but for those who are willing to wait, it teaches them to not care for Nintendo's consoles or console releases in the moment and instead hold out for the eventual PC port 8+ years later.
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>>737056174
It is artificial scarcity. BOTW and TOTK do not have features or gameplay that justify them being exclusives. You would have had an argument for skyward sword or spirit tracks, unironically. Kill yourself braindead corpo drone. Die
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>>737054568
What percentage of gamers that play on Nintendo also own a PC? I think its higher than most people think. Because if you are the type of person that games as a hobby, PC is obviously the most cost effective long term. At the same time, exclusive games of the caliber that Nintendo is capable of making are attractive to hardcore gamers. Therefore, I think moving to PC would significantly harm their hardware sales in the long term.
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>>737054568
They would probably still be successful but I would stop buying their consoles. I’d just wait and buy them on PC. That gives them a lot less control over their business. I think that’s a hugely overlooked aspect about Nintendo as a company. Put another way, there are plenty of huge developers on primarily on PC. Blizzard, Bethesda, Riot, Valve, and so on. None of those companies have IPs that feed global merchandising empires and theme parks and shit like that.
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>>737054568
Well even if they did put their games on pc they'd make their own launcher before giving Gabe a cent.
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>>737054568
>the company that makes a profit selling consoles and sells tens of million copies of its games should release games on steam so it could make a fee million more dollars.

Eh...
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>>737054568
>Zelda games release on PC
>People discover its just cartoon Skyrim
>modding turns every Zelda game into dark hardcore roguelikes full of lewd mods
I think Nintendo is right to protect their brand
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>>737057434
People already do all this on emulators since forever
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>>737057572
yeah but its not officially sanctioned.
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>>737057803
No shit sherlock that's what modding is.
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>>737054568
They wouldn't go out of business but their consoles would sell significantly less.

>>737055523
It would probably reduce their income overall. They profit off of console sales and the Switch 1 is on track to beating the PS2 (with no price cut btw). Putting their games on PC would cut into console sales a lot, which would also cut into subscription revenue, all for their highest profile games to sell maybe an extra 5-10 mil at most.
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>>737057896
Starfield would disagree with you. Bethesda prepared the modding scene ahead of time to make sure their incoming dogshit would have a seemingly organic community attached to it from day one.

The shift towards modders' discords across video games have also reduced the once inherently transgressive nature of the hobby. While its not the case for every game yet, the biggest ones seem to trend in this direction.
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>>737054568
no one would buy it because botw owes its popularity to nintendo players living in a bubble while pc players have had better open world games and better nuts-n-boltslikes for a decade+ before this came out
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>>737058593
This is just false
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If they ported games to PC they'd have three layers of DRM running 24/7 and checking every frame.
It wouldn't be out of incompetence but malice.
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>Make a game good enough that someone buys the $450 console and the $70 game. Almost all money goes back to you.
>Just put it on PC where people will either complain about prices, start flipping cheap keys, or pirate it outright. After Valve's cut you get about $50 per sale.
Gee, which one makes more sense for the company with the most recognizable and beloved franchises in video games?
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>>737054568
They would quickly see the pc market is nonexistent and boils down to a vocal minority online plus millions of Chinese steam bots then drop out of it just like Sony did
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>>737056706
i doubt that many. Nintendo fans don't seem like people who are in the PC ecosystem. When 3rd party games get ported to Switch 2, they act as if it's the first time they could play it, like FFVII Remake
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There is a german saying in german
"Perlen vor die Säue"
translates into
"Pears for the pigs"

Its literally this situation. To explain further for dumb US-Americans:
Pc-players are the pigs and the pearls are Nintendo games
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>>737055084
go back to resetera disgusting leftist faggot
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>>737059802
I'm also an ESL and I know that pearls before swine is a saying in English, dumbo
It's literally in the bible
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>>737056552
yeah anon maybe try reading the thread over again you absolute fucking retard
nobody was doubting that it's artificial scarcity, the doubt was about whether artificial scarcity actually works
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>>737059450
the only things that still interact with ""consoles"" in the modern day are subhumans
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No, despite all the clout pc gamers swing around on the internet, its not a good market.
Pc gamers are cheapasses. Nintendo gamers are the prime audiance largest install base and most willing to actually shovel out premium prices for games.
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>>737059658
Maybe the hardcore tendies are like that, but most hobbyist gamers tend to have consoles as a supplement to their PC. Nintendo seems to be the most common supplement console for PC users
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>>737059269
Might make some sense if Nintendo didn't pull the "no play old game, just remember" stunt
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>>737054974
You're acting as if games haven't already suffered the fate of "eventually system X will be emulated", at least this time it puts money into Nintendo's pocket
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>>737055789
No, they are just selling fine all things considered. The issue is that Sony still treats the PC like an unwanted child that shouldn't exist by porting everything years later when interest completely died down, but then expects sales numbers on par with the original console release. They are simply retarded, nothing more to it.
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>>737058325
>They profit off of console sales
They don't.
ALL console manufacturers sell consoles on a loss, and make up with subscriptions + game sales.

Meanwhile, PC has > 1 billion potential users.
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>>737060839

Not equivalent. People who use emulators of any kind are not even 0.1% of people who use Steam.
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>>737061327
Now how many of those potential users are actually running rigs good enough to play the games.
Or are even looking to play games in the first place.

One perk of consoles, especially modern ones, you know exactly how many are in use, what people are actually playing. Etc.
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>>737054568
keep dreaming steamies, it's never gonna happen
go ahead and keep begging for rom dumps so you can use your shitty outdated emulators for an inferior experience
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>>737061574
>Now how many of those potential users are actually running rigs good enough to play the games.
Anywhere from 130 to 290 Million, taking into account PC-only Steam and EPIC accounts.

And don't be silly. Literal 2017 tier PC specs can emulate Switch 1 shit, and Shitch 2 literally has a mobile Nvidia RTX 3050 chip.

>One perk of consoles, especially modern ones, you know exactly how many are in use, what people are actually playing.
You're pretending like such data would not be available for PCs as well.
Games like PUBG peaked at > 1 billion daily players at its peak. And that was pre-Corona; practically ancient history these days.

You're also pretending like most console players would not only play 1 or 2 games each year, and buy everything 2nd hand or on sale.
Or just pirate everything, like was the case on Xbox 360, Wii, PSP and DS.
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>>737054568
I thought /v/ said BOTW and Mario Odyssey were trash and overrated games, why would you want to purchase them at full price on Steam so badly?
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>>737054568
This would mean I basically never play an unmodded Nintendo game ever, and since the japs think modding a game is a crime, this would never happen.
But if it did, I would mod them all.
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>>737062270
>shitty outdated emulators for an inferior experience
Don't mind me, just playing "your" game at 240p, ultrawide, 4K texture patches + modern controls, natively!
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>>737054568
>getting more sales would mean they would go out of business
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Huh...?
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>>737062583
Goddamn that looks great. You playing it on Project N64 or just PC source code leak?
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>>737062583
soulless
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>>737054568
That will never happen, keep dreaming steamie
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>>737062528
>why would you want to purchase them at full price on Steam so badly?
Nobody said "full price", you kike.
20 bucks is all you get for a 10 year old SP games.

I paid 28€ for a mint, unopened WiiU copy back in 2018.

>>737062597
Consoliniggers only care about "muh exclusives!!", and are afraid that they'll lose their only argument if they lose their games.
It's the Bloodborne effect. And before that, it was the MGSV, FFXV, TLOU, GoW...

funny how all of those are Snoy games, huh?

>>737062692
Neither. It's the PC Decomp.
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>>737060839
There's a lot of pc gaming normies who think emulation is too 1337 hax0rs
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>>737062793
>>737062583
I've been waiting for the RT mod for years. Hell OOT still hasn't been recomped, feels bad man. MM feels so damn good with proper analog camera movement.
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>>737055523
There’s barely any point in owning a console if not for exclusives…
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>>737062583
>>737062793
>beginning of them game
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>>737058941
this poster is an example
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>>737054568
Even thought I'd love it, I also know that they'd make next to no sales on PC because every single one of their games would be available for piracy almost immediately.
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it's like a forbidden fruit
they kill one fanbase but create another
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>>737058556
That's an extreme exception, nobody would've played their dogshit without mods (nobody does even with mods, bu that's besides the point). The majority of games don't support modding at all, and for those that do devs are hands-off besides providing some dev tools.
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>>737054568
There's literally no meaningful benefit outside of a short term bump in profits and will cause long term damage to the brand.
The people that will buy Nintendo games will buy Nintendo platforms, that's the end of the matter. The mental gymnastics from Microsoft accidentally listing Xenoblade as a PC game as Nintendo probably toying from porting and not just Microslop AI generating video game lists was embarassing.
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>>737055912
This.
Nintendo is the only publisher that could potentially give Steam a run for its money if they came out with their own PC game store.
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>>737056284
FLOPPEN
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Why is there still a debate about this? Sony already tried it and it didn't work.
Even the short-term boost in sales was hardly worth the effort.
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>>737063481
>Why is there still a debate about this? Sony already tried it and it didn't work.
It literally quadrupled their annual income for most games. They're just salty that their 1st party casual AAA movie slop is not welcomed with open arms by the PC master race, like the game-starved Snoy piggies always do.
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>>737063172
Name 5 open worlds better than BotW
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>>737063576
You type like a fat person
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it would kill them longterm because most people would realize Nintendo games aren't that special without the cultic exclusivity brainrot. Breath of the Wild is just a Ubisoft clone with weapon degradation
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>>737063654
You type like an indian shithole dweller with no arguments.
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>>737054568
People already pirate their games on PC.
This would not change much.

Most Nintendo fans would still buy Nintendo hardware.

Only issue is that most PC users and Probably most other console users do not buy 5-10+ year old games for full price.
Nintendo Pricing only really works for Nintendos closed ecosystem.
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>>737063481
They should have tried with actually good games, Helldivers 2 had more players on pc than on ps at some point. The only other game worth shit in their repertoire that I wish they ported is Gran Turismo 7
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>>737054568
>59.99
lmao never
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>>737062583
Will never stop being relevant.
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>>737060242
Sorry for being rude. I was retarded
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>>737063598
assassins creed 1
assassins creed 2
assassins creed 3
assassins creed 4
assassins creed 5
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>>737063282
>nobody would've played their dogshit without mods
The overwhelming majority of people have never used mods in Bethesda games. The most popular mods invariably have a fraction as many unique downloads as their games have sold total copies.
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>>737063481
It didn't work because they didn't release the PC versions simultaneously with the console version.
RE9 released at the same time as the PS5/Xbox/Switch versions and the PC version has sold like 3 million copies.
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>>737065031
All garbage
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>>737054568
I can already emulate those games for free.
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Nintendo would be absolutely retarded to do this. And I don’t really even care for them.
Their brand/business is built upon them being the ONLY way to play their headliners. They have not broken that ironclad rule since what, the CD-i games?
If you’re interested in one of their games (and don’t want to/can't emulate it) you will buy their system and the game, no waiting on potential ports, because you know perfectly well it’s not getting that port. It’s how they get people into their ecosystem despite knowing full well that they have the weaker console.
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>>737065815
Will you actually play them thoughever?
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>>737065879
Most of them no, since they are outclassed by games outside the tendie bubble.
Stuff like Metroid: Dread and Unicorn Overlord I did.
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>>737054568
No but it’d singlehanded kill their console market. See microslop as proof
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>>737065601
I agree, and yet still a better open world than botw
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>Steam
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
If Nintendo ported their games to PC, they'd open their own storefront, like eShop. They would never use Steam.
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>>737067485
You're wrong
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>>737067767
no, I'm right.
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>>737063180
>create another
A way smaller fanbase that's not even 1/100th as dedicated because they weren't groomed by Nintendo.

>>737063669
Exactly
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>>737067809
No, you aren't. You just hate open world games so they are all the same to you. I know your type.
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>>737054568
They would go out of business overnight
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>>737055789
Have they tried not making woke dogshit
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>>737063481
>doesn't release Gravity Rush or Killzone or or Bloodbourne or Little Big Planet or any exclusve I would care about
>only gay lesbian movie games
>they wonder why I'm not buying anything
For what it's worth, I did buy Helldivers 2. Granted Helldivers 1 also eventually got a Steam release and HD2 got a Xbox release so I never really considered that series an exclusive. But I'm not buying your gay movie games.
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>>737067916
No, I just checked, I'm right. Zelda is a bottom of the barrel open world that only the most uninitiated could enjoy. Says right here.
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>>737056256
This.
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>>737054568
SOny puts all their games on Staem nowadays and they're bigger than Nintendo
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I think there is a world where nintendo makes a pc game.
But it wouldnt be a port. It would be something that needed to be made on pc for a logical reason.
Weather its a crappy edutainment game like mario teaches typing or some kind of mmo forever game that they want to maintain for multiple console generations.
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>>737068462
I get it, you hate open worlds. I genuinely think that's okay. I'm curious, do you like Zelda games? Which is your favorite?
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>>737068924
i love open world games, this is how i know botw is shit. again, it says so right here. my favorite zelda is link to the past
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>>737068597
More likely just a PC port of one of their greedy mobile games
Like if they made some kind of Smash Bros MOBA
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>>737054568
They don't want my money. Cool! Thanks for the free games!

>>737062583
>>737062793
Sweet! I will check it out
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>>737054568
I might get modded into a real game instead of a glorified tech demo.
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>>737069197
Nintendo owns Pokemon, right? And there's Pokemon Go. So in a way they have made products off platform on the mobile market. But they haven't gone full in on the PC market. Makes me wonder why they even care about something like Pal world when they aren't even on the PC.
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>>737068597
Mario Maker would be big on PC.
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>>737069331
Nintendo owns only a 3rd of Pokémon
It's why Gamefreak pretty much holds the license hostage when it comes to main games and spin-offs
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>>737054568
This would sell like fucking hotcakes, let's not kid ourselves. As a one time thing, they'd be fine but a habit of doing this would disincentivize people of buying a Switch. Also, they're giga Boomers who don't like people modding their games so they'd never actually do this.
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>>737059861
Are Nintendo fans leftists or chuds? Make up your mind already.
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>>737069459
BotW sold more than TotK by a good margin
The dropoff would be 10x on PC, the novelty of playing a Nintendo game on PC will last a few games at most
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>>737069178
>i love open world games
Then why didn't you name any good ones?
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Pretty much no Nintendo game can compare to what you can get on PC. Like if BOTW and TOTK tried to compete with a masterpiece like Terraria or Minecraft, especially on their own turf, Zelda would absolutely get destroyed. It already gets BTFO on its own console.
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>Terranigger entered the thread
I'm out
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>>737071810
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Nintendo doesn't need to do that, Switch 2 already has everything PC has. It can run games in 4K and it has mouse controls, and only costs $450. Anyone who's actually a gamer already owns Tears of the Kingdom and a bunch of Switch games, so free upgrades and $10 or $20 to upgrade a game is a good deal.
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>>737071607
TOTK is way better than that shit
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>>737072186
Does the Switch 2 include a robust modding scene and romhacks? I'd love to be able to disable weapon durability and actually fill the game with stuff to do.
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>>737071197
you only asked for ones better than botw which is most of them
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>>737072240
It's a half-assed gmod nuts and bolts sequel. It's not even as good as the first game, which wasn't that good in the first place.
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obviously not, they'd hit record profits
the console business isn't profitable by itself, they just value having that vendor control more than they do money for (((some reason)))
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>>737072241
No, that's why it's better. If you have to mod a game to make it better that means you're playing a shitty game. Nintendo makes games that are good in the first place so you don't need to mod them.
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>>737072343
>If you have to mod a game to make it better that means you're playing a shitty game.
Doesn't that mean that BOTW/TOTK are shit games, since Nintendo had to mod them just to run better on the Switch 2?
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>>737061327
>ALL console manufacturers sell consoles on a loss
This was not true with the switch, worst case they broke even.
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>>737072343
>having worse versions of games and less functionality is better
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>>737054568
>put your games on PC
>people buy them but then don’t play them

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