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Which way stalker
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stalker 2 looked like shit the whole development process and while bad was nowhere as bad as i expected it to be. i expected a vaporware trainwreck.
metro also looks like shit but maybe i can still have fun despite that.
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>>737076314
Is STALKER 2 worth playing yet? I'm not looking for something beyond a vanilla Call of Pripyat experience.
Did anyone play the VR Metro game? Is it worth playing? I can never tell with VR reviews, they say everything is great.
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>>737076314
>big areola
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>slavs trying to make a game that's not about post-soviet wrecks/depressing molchat doma type of shit nuclear hell with empty commieblocks challenge: impossible
the ussr ghost will haunt eastern europe for at least another 50 years
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They've been patching it for a while now, still adding things that should have been there at the very beginning. I think the game's biggest flaw is that it turns into a jogging simulator where you run from objective to objective in the Zone, just sprinting in a straight line to the next side/story mission. Because they went full open world and increased the overall map size of the zone, you'll just be running around an empty Zone for much of your playthrough.
Late game stalker enemies have the same issue they do in every other Stalker, they just become comically tanky and sometimes require multiple headshots to be put down. I actually think it's worse in Stalker 2 than the original three games when it comes to endgame fights.
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>>737076462
Chuck led you where?
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I just read something even more retarded. HUNTER is the Fûhrer of the Natzis. Like WHAT IN THE FUCK?! Not gonna buy this game and not even gonna play it if i get for free. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING WITH THIS JEWSLOP!!
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Anomaly/GAMMA
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Neither!
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Why are you fags always arguing "which way" when you can genuinely just have both? I've played all of STALKER 1 and it's expansions, and I've played all of STALKER 2 as well. And guess what?! I've played Metro 1 2 and 3 as well.
They're all good, fun, games. Metro is my personal pick because I enjoy the more linear nature of it, but that's just me. Both games are full of things to do, fun to have, and challenges (on their hardest difficulties). It's so tiresome hearing THIS ONE IS BETTER, NO THIS ONE, DURR NO THIS ONE. Shut the fuck up
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>WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING WITH THIS JEWSLOP!!
it's pretty clever akshually. when goyim buy this game they are shouldering the karmic burden of the ukro-russo war through funding it. the consumer is the chicken.
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Stalker 2:
>chornobyyyl
>remove the original russian dub
>remove soviet symbolism
>add niggers
>in a sovietjank game
Metro 2039:
>the devs are screaming slava ukraini in the latest reveal video from their malta office while wearing faggy hipster hairbuns
Do these absole retards not understand their audience at all? Do they hate money?
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>>737076314
Stalker is the better game despite ripping off most of the concepts from the metro books. I liked the original version of Metro 2033 but the remake changed the voice acting for some reason and the sequels played like western console games.
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Anybody here read the Roadside Picnic novel? I believe this is what inspired both STALKER and Metro games, and also Darkwood
I'm reading this to prepare to play both series, and it's pretty interesting. Although the MC is kind of a prick
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>>737084898
>not understand their audience at all?
Autistic redditor furries/weebs obsessed with guns and shitty memes?
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Based taste.
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>>737085595
It's literally about stalkers entering the zone and using nuts and bolts. The difference is the lack of aliens and shit. The book inspired the movie which inspired the game (like Scar's design for example)
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Neither. Instead of playing games that spend 90% their budget on graphics and 10% of their budget on non-shit gameplay, i would rather flip that around.
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>>737085942
>gas masks guns and furries
Truly the autism trifecta
>>737085702
This, I was shocked that I rarely see many chud STALKER fans as most are borderline redditor cringey types instead
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see >>737086293
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>>737082082
I have literally never played Tarkov and never had even an ounze of interest in it since it's multiplayer sloppa, why do you faggots always compare it to it?
Anomaly is not multiplayer, it's not an extraction shooter and is a fork of CoC which existed years before Tarkov was a thing.
It has nothing in common with Trakov at all apart from having guns and being in a slav shithole so Half Life 2 is now a Tarkov clone too huh?
Why can't people enjoy freeplay mods after having played the default storylines to death?
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>>737076314
I thought STALKER 2 was good.
It was not perfect by any means, but I enjoyed what I played. Been a STALKER fan since 2007.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2941710/Project_Silverfish/
>30 dollars for an early access game
Tell me when the full game is out, bro
I will give the dev credit for the game's nice art direction, and being one of the few furry indie games that I've seen that doesn't rely on sex appeal
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>>737086728
Any game with hardcore survival elements and heavy gun customization = tarkov. Thing is that I can somewhat understand where the comparison is coming from, anomaly does feel like it leans towards that heavy grind aspect youd expect from those kinds of games. It's a fundamentally different kind of experience from vanilla stalker. Vanilla is a lot more arcadey then people want to admit with certain artifacts
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>>30 dollars for an early access game
just pirate it.
even then its actually worth your money, i will genuinely back up silverfish shilling. it has more content than any game in the original stalker trilogy, my first playthrough was like 30-40 hours, and theres replay potential even when its unfinished.
Way more meaningful weapon variety than stalker games too, theres way more crazy hidden secrets to find in the vast areas, you stumble across some crazy shit in places that seemed empty, it does a really good balance of "most places arent special and theres a lot of nothingburgers but if you explore you come across crazy shit and dungeons". It might feel a little aimless at first because it doesnt instantly give you a direction/goal, but theres so much shit to find. The artifacts are way more interesting and fleshed out too (pic related is me at the very end of the game)
> and being one of the few furry indie games
i genuinely used to believe it was cosmically impossible for a furry game to not be dogshit and have actually good gameplay. Silverfish proved me wrong
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>>737087458
alright bro, you're making a convincing argument for how much content the game has, so I will wishlist it and wait for it to be done sinceI have not yet played Stalker and Metro games. I do have both trilogies on Steam, just don't know when I will get around them
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since the game is unfinished, does it not have an ending?
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>does it not have an ending?
The dev wants to focus on the core gameplay first before finishing the main quest.
Right now it has an unfinished main quest. The game does not instantly give it to you and you are expected to stumble upon it. It also shows some signs of different routes/nonlinearity near the end, like you get one or two choices for something important
Honestly i have faith in the early access because this guy is a real proper game developer, he put out a finished effortful game before, and he is currently getting way more sales/funding than he expected
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I honestly recommend playing stalker before playing Silverfish. Playing silverfish before stalker will be a rough transition. You will appreciate both stalker and silverfish more if you play the og trilogy first, i think
As for metro, i think the one really important thing is that you play the original version of 2033 instead of the Redux version. The redux version for last light is basically the same game, but for 2033 its very different, and if you ask me, the OG is the peak of metro. I can sperg out all the changes to you if youd like
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are you talking about the wrong game? Silverfish quite literally does not have an ending, what are you sperging about
It does technically have an "ending" where you pay off all your debt and escape the zone, but thats not the actual end of the main quest. Its not even supposed to be a real meaningful thing, because you cannot reach that without boring levels of grinding. Debt is supposed to be cleared by massive blows such as the 1 million you get from the drill piece, not by painstakingly farming, and theres not much content that takes a chunk out of your debt right now so its nowhere near enough.
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>>737086293
Sorry, it genuinely does look interesting as a game... but I am a terminally online millennial, and for my demographic, the side you picked in the 00s Furry Wars, is what you stick with. It's like what I imagine Bosnians and Serbians feel towards each other.
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>You will appreciate both stalker and silverfish more if you play the og trilogy first, i think
That's what I thought, so I will play silverfish when I finish the Stalker trilogy... which by that time, silverfish may be a finished game
>As for metro, i think the one really important thing is that you play the original version of 2033 instead of the Redux version.
I really appreciate the heads up, anon, but I do have the OG games. Although I wasn't aware much of the issues of Redux were that bad, I thought it was mostly graphical
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>>737089124
>I'm homosexual for liking women as natural as possible
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Yeah nah its a huge gameplay change. Its essentially last-lightifying the original game, and last light is admitedly a very different game with lots of consolitis and quite a few dumbed down mechanics. it has its qualities though
And just for clariifcation, theres nothing wrong with the redux version of Last Light, though the complete edition is newer
I think the Enhanced edition of exodus is mostly just a graphics difference with some raytracing autism. Youre probably better off looking up comparisons and judging yourself
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>>737076486
Its fine if you are kind of in it for the story, that shit has never mattered that much to me and if you are just looking for the best gameplay experience I will always just recommend modding Anomaly since modding for 2 is and will always be abysmal dogshit thanks to being on the cucked UE5 platform
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>>737076314
I like both series.
Yet the whole A-Life faction warfare is the reason i preferred STALKER and that does exist in the 2nd game now.
Are 4A sitll using their inhouse engine or did they go with Unreal? the Enhanced Edition of Metro Exodus still looks really good and is an awesome technical showcase for lighting and graphics in general. Unlike Unreal shit that looks ugly as sin regardless of the game.
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>Best part about Stalker is getting enough money to buy cool armor and equipment
>remove all armor and equipment available for purchase.
You have to remove half the shit to make gamma worth playing. You might as well just mod anomaly up instead of gamma down
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>>737086293
>furfaggotry
Tainted by default.
These games in pic rel are the only games with potential as it stands, and maybe tunguska 2 although thats just stalker themed fallout.
However i might be giving too much credit to one of them for namesake development credentials.
I don't understand how furries don't think their games are ugly as sin. It's like how a lackluster story for a game can either make or break it. I don't expect the best writing in a stalker kind of survival game but do i want to be immersed in the world. And i can't do that with anthropomorphic crap happening. I did play Silverfish and whilst enjoying it at times the immersion factor was harmed significantly. Not necessarily because it looks like roblox but because of what I'm complaining about. I enjoyed Into the Radius as a stalker clone. Wasn't bad although a little far off what the ideal game should have been. Disliked Misery the indie game.
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>I think the game's biggest flaw is that it turns into a jogging simulator where you run from objective to objective in the Zone
that's also the old stalker games though, you just don't feel it because alife is actually in the old games.
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>>737084898
>Do these absole retards not understand their audience at all?
Do you understand the audience of Metro series? The series where Russian people are troglodytes, living as rats under the earth slowly dying due to fear of the outside world nearly entirely perpetuated by remnants of the Soviet government gone (even more) mad with power, using any means necessary to hold on to whatever sliver of control over others they can retain? There's a reason the author is considered a wanted felon in the Russian federation.
maybe you can lecture the author of the books on who his audience is next
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>The series where Russian people are troglodytes, living as rats under the earth slowly dying due to fear of the outside world nearly entirely perpetuated by remnants of the Soviet government
so all the radiation gasmasks they have to wear when going out is just big russian propaganda, oy vey why didn't you tell me I don't have to wear the masks when going out, how could the russian goverment fool me like this
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>>737084898
>Do these absole retards not understand their audience
Communists play stalker games? is that who the soviet symbology is for? I just assumed it to be an innocuous hardcore survival game. Or perhaps i missed some deeper meaning in the lore.
Or is it just east euros because they get teary eyed patriotic chekists on the occasion? I'd buy that being the case because i still believe in stereotypes about east Europeans in general. Even the germans had a stasi informer chancellor ruling the country for many years that was cozy with Putin. Thus they probably still see all of that shit with a lot of pride. And slavs are more likely to play games that come out of their side of the world.
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There is another
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>>737085595
I read several of the Strugatsky brothers' books. I didn't play Stalker and I didn't watch the movie, but I'm pretty sure both adaptations tried to read between lines and do a 2deep4me version of a very straightforward story.
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both dogshit
metro is slop for the masses
stalker 2 is a soulless husk of what once was
stalker ended with call of pripyat
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maybe your state's government installed by the kagan clan shouldn't have been defending pedophiles and murdering ethnic russians for over a decade giving a false pretext for russian interventionism, have you considered not supporting CIA-sponsored takeovers of independent states that install these miserable failures who can't even hold a tiny ethnic faction together for 10 years?
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>bruh
>lmao!
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>Hunter, Artyom's hero, the guy who went into certain death alone to help a dingy station is going to be the bad guy
>he's a nazi now btw
I don't believe it.
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how and why and where has he been for like 10+ years?
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>>737076314
>Which way stalker
Follow the road to vostok
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>>737104047
Other thread is collecting all of the cancer. Once it gets pruned this one will go to shit.
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>diaper cheeto and bunker grampa will kill everyone
>be afraid. BE VERY AFRAID!!!
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Already done with the top half. Time to wait for the bottom half.
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>who is jewish btw
We know
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OP-2.2
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which way, black man?
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Metro exodus ruined what made the games fun
>let's make a game themed around the Moscow underground, but open world!
>but not in the underground where you have to travel between stations and find routes overland and bypass the horrors of the surface
>but in large mostly empty outdoor areas with a couple of POIs and AI that cant do anything other than hide behind cover and blind fire at you
I enjoyed Volga and spent the rest of the game thinking 'what the fuck'
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>Give gamma a try
>basic junk artifacts you find on the road in the starting area give you superpowers like:
>eating raw meat for bonuses (You still die instantly to the radiation overdose)
>5 second full heal that only costs some psi health
>the ability to instant kill pseudogiants by kicking them
What the hell is this joke mod?
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I enjoyed my time with it. They’ve been chipping away at some of the jank, its still not perfect, but they are getting there. Story i found to be kino, much more interesting than Metro, but Metro does have the better presentation. It feels cleaner and more focused.
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>>737076314
>STALKER 2
What sort of performance should I expect?
For Metro as well, while we're at it.
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>>737112945
Yes.But I still failed.
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>>737112990
Be a better person in your next life.
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You're going to be mostly bottlenecked by your cpu in stalker 2 especially in hub areas.
I think your gpu is more than fine for 1080p 60hz and you want your game to be installed on your ssd. For Metro only Exodus has RT/PT rtx stuff and is going to run well without.
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The last stand at D6 makes Last Light worth playing.Especially if you got the bad ending.
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I like how the Project Silverfish developer is the inverse of modfags like Grok and analmeme devs
"Hmm i wish stalker played differently and focused more on some things, what should i do"
>PS: i should make my own game and create my own environment where i know how everything works
>modfags: i should wrestle with an autistic custom engine with things i have no access to for a decade trying to turn another game into my own game while filling it with bloated shit from a billion integrations and duct tape additions
"Hmm i should make the game have more progression, you reach your apex as soon as you get a rifle that shoots straight, what should i do"
>PS: Ill add more meaningful ways to progress and more types of gear you need to work towards
>modfags: ill make you unable to purchase shit for a non-ludicrous price and turn the process of getting good guns into an insane grindfest
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Shit, came here to post this >>737086293
Anyway, Project Silverfish is great and has straight up absurd amount of content, especially for early-access, that easily clocks in 60-80+ hours for your first playthrough, and that comes with juicy complexity, fun detail and excellent atmosphere that's almost buildo in essence
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Good to see you PShill-san
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I loved Metro 2033 but I fucking hated Last Light Redux, the hardest difficulty feels like shit on it whereas Metro 2033 was super immersive.
Never played the third game cause I hated last light so much.
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I just played 2 hours of 2033 and couldn't get hooked. I think it's too late to enjoy this format of gameplay and map design. It would have been cool if I did on release.
Maybe I'll try the Redux..
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>i7 7700
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Should I try these instead? Or just get 2033 Redux for $2?
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play them in order. if you dont like 2033, you probably wont like the rest. exodus is more open world but not sure if its wise to start with it. also redux is worse version of 2033, downgraded graphics, more consolised shooting etc
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>can choose either russian or Ukrainian language
I'll pick the OG Russian. Even if Ukr is the canon.
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This thread reminded me that I have a dlc to play
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Metro games basically boil down to railroad/""cinematic"" game play sections, but its very tight focused and its atmosphere is untouchable and the steal combat sections are very fun on the hardest difficulty.
I dunno, I like em, and im excited they're moving away from the stupid open world exodus shit and having new protagonist
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The Metro 2034 book was pretty bad, Artyom only appears for like 10% of it so most of Last Light is game original including all the forced waifu pandering.
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Yeah. That was the first time I experienced the event. It really was strikingly haunting and beautiful while building up the mystery of what is beyond the veilToo bad the actual encounter is very, very underwhelming, as most melee enemies are pretty much non-issue
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>i always cared about the series look i even watched and reacted to the trailer
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>restart the game but the Redux version
It's shittier but also the new graphics and flashy textures and lights make me more interested to play it.
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the fuck are these shills? this game looks like an asset flip using these low-poly unity store assets that are seen in every fucking flip on steam these days
just because every empty cave has funkopops to collect doesn't mean it's full of content, furfaggot
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>>737125060
Yeah, it's quite literally a one-man band project, so the visuals are not exactly top priority. The stylisation then is quite deliberate to avoid assets clashing
But as was said before, if you ignore the furfaggotry, or tolerate it within the limits of the game lore's explanation for their presence, it's a really great, well-thought-out and complex game
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Exodus started losing me after Volga and it seemed like the devs also lost hope in their design ideas too given that there's just 2 open world levels (not like there's a lack of empty time in the linear ones). Artyom's selective mutism and strangely slow movement and agility also gets even more retarded to the point it stops hurting the story and hurts you physically.
Stalker 2 started on a bad foot with that sub 10' bloodsucker, gave me some hope with the lesser hope and then the story started to drag on, sidequests vanished, the gunplay got increasingly unsatisfying, the cracks in ai started to show badly and I found myself walking long distances doing nothing repeatedly (okay, maybe I had to keep avoiding the "immersive squad spawns 3 meters in front of you" every so often)
Honestly I want to go back to OP 2.2s retardation. At least I have curiosity for what awaits me ahead there.
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>Project Silverfish
would rather play Peripeteia
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>>737085595
Read the book, watched the film, played the games. The film is honestly the weakest of the three. Takes out all the characterisation from the book. All the nutty side characters from the book appear in spirit in the NPCs in the games.
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>>737076314
Stalker 2 has this issue where the stage looks really cool but it's absolutely fucking barren in all but shit ideas. The game is absolute peak, if you're a console degroid who enjoys nothing nu-fallouts and far cries.
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>>737102646
>That book inspired stalker movie and that then inspired games.
That's actually what the guy you're replying to wrote. To make it a bit clearer:
>The book inspired the movie which [in turn] inspired the game
He obviously doesn't say the bracketed part, but it's still implied because "which" is referring to the movie due to its placement in the sentence.
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:Stalker 2 has this issue where the stage looks really cool but it's absolutely fucking barren in all but shit ideas. The game is absolute peak, if you're a console degroid who enjoys nothing nu-fallouts and far cries.
So basically Skyrim
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>oo bad the actual encounter is very, very underwhelming, as most melee enemies are pretty much non-issue
I was expecting exactly that, yeah. Some anon told me the dev had plans to rework the fuck out of melee enemies to make them actually threatning, i dont know if thats true but i have immense hopes for that
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>this game looks like an asset flip using these low-poly unity store assets that are seen in every fucking flip on steam these days
Pic related and steam store stuff are a better example of how it looks, his image is a rare event where everything is filled with fog so you cannot see far
Its quite literally made by one ultra autistically effortful guy that is only capable of low-poly for the graphics, he is doing everythin by himself, with a little bit of store assets here and there.
>just because every empty cave has funkopops to collect doesn't mean it's full of content
Except it quite literally has
>A metric fuckton of special unique content to find
>WAY more underground labs/places than stalker
>More fancy unique side quests/goals than stalker
>WAY more different/fancy special guns than stalker, also a ton of normal guns in general
>WAY more fleshed out artifacts than stalker
The only part that feels lacking in density might be the beginning of the game depending on your luck. Because the game is huge but doesnt just instantly direct you towards the crazy shit, it hopes you find it yourself
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>>737130504
nta hmm let me think
peripeteia is very debatable, its either a shit unfinished game or a kino unfinished game.
silverfish is arguably even more unfinished, though it is bigger by an immense margin, and is generally regarded as "pretty cool" by people who played it
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>>737129428
It's like nu-fallout in a sense that the game has a lot of uppickable trash placed everywhere for the sake of making a consoletard comfortable. Tons of food stored in boxes, placed in highly irradiated areas.
Meds and ammo boxes just waiting for the player to be picked up. Why? Why the fuck are they even there? Do people in the zone just leave those and never pick them up? And it's all in abundance. You never feel like you need to actually trade artifacts for money and money for consumables. Everything is built around fixing your equip, the rest is always procurable.
Hordes of braindead npcs to shoot. Very sparse amount of sidequests and even then they're not impressive and basic, with a few exceptions. Really reminded me of modern FC sidequests that serve to pad the game and exist only for the sake of "content".
I know the series is not a survival genre but its world design is always in this constant clash with its game design.
tldr
their artists and those responsible for all things artistic deserve to eat
their gamedesigners are fucking stupid
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>>737130432
A bit of an autistic nitpick
>WAY more underground labs/places than stalker
As in labs/dungeons present in a single game or over the entire trilogy/with S2? Because if the former, sure. If the latter, even without S2, hell no
>More fancy unique side quests/goals than stalker
Compared to SoC? Definitely. Compared to CS? Potentially. Compared to CoP? Questionable. Compared to the handful of quests in S2? Sure
>WAY more fleshed out artifacts than stalker
>WAY more different/fancy special guns than stalker, also a ton of normal guns in general
Again, it really depends on the particular entry, but overall, yes
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GAMMA is great, it's just Grok is a raging retard and a lot of peopel cba to disable half the retarded faggotry he added to Anomaly.
>muh tarkovfags
Tarkovfags are actually onSPT, they wouldn't touch this babbytier shit franchise with a 10ft pole.
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>>737076462
yeah metro was gr-(2 hour cutscene) it really had some great atmo (45 minutes of a man opening a door)sphere