No, but it my basement it would not make a damn difference.

>>737080241
I fell for the CRT grift.

>>737080302
my condolences

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>>737080241
I LITERALLY cannot go back to non-blacks.

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>>737080241
I did, kind of. I knew about the purple tint but half the time, my room is dark and the other half it's dim enough for it to be hard to notice.
If I could still return my monitor, I would give a WOLED a try but I don't regret my purchase.

I'm not dumb enough to buy a monitor which is fundamentally designed to kill itself over time

i bought a mini-led and it's great

>>737080853
That's every monitor.

>>737080241
No. Literally the only reason to buy an OLED is if you want perfect black levels, so buying one that has budget LCD-tier black levels if there's a candle lit three miles away is the most retarded thing I can possibly imagine. The new 4th-gen WOLEDs apparently comprehensively rape and gape QD-OLED across the board, so it can be thrown in the dustbin of history as another failed Samshit technology.

>>737080853
>fundamentally designed to kill itself over time
thats literally every modern electronic

>>737080804
>when the BBC kicks in

>>737080302
No you didn’t
And I bet you don’t even play old games

>>737081001
Every modern product

>>737080241
>they fell for the oled meme just to get worse HDR than mini led
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>>737081280
'sup, MiniLED bro.

Was only an issue with the first couple of gens and you can even get woled monitors now. Your points are old, shill.

>>737080241
can i get a red pill on monitors?

>>737080995
Perfect black means better color and contrast too, it's more pleasant than a backlit panel when sitting in front of it at a desk

>>737080241
what's wrong with you? people on this board are insecure as fuck and you want to make them insecure about their purchase? you are a monster!

>>737081881
glossy woled > matte woled > glossy qd-oled > matte qd-oled > mini led ips > ips > va >tn

>>737081448
Isn't that Samsung monitor 55"? That's larger than my current TV. Meanwhile, I'm looking at 27" monitors.

>>737081881
OLED gives the best color of any screen. Whether you go glossy or matte depends on your ambient lighting. If there is lots of light in your room, you want matte. If its dark/you have control of the light then glossy typically looks better.

imagine buying planned obsolescence burn-in slop

>he doesn't have blackout curtains
>he doesn't exclusively game in the dark

>>737082310
burn-in isn't a problem with modern oleds

>>737080241
I did. It's great. The purplish color is only there when the monitor is turned off.

The worst display meme to fall for is ultrawide

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>>737082389
>

>>737082447
>the grey water... its... not the same...
I genuinely don't understand monitor autism

>>737082515
OLEDs are better at content with black elements, MiniLEDs are better at bright content with high peak HDR values.

There, I summed up practically every monitor thread that's ever existed and ever will exist until a new technology comes out.

Upgrading peripherals seems pointless. I'm using the same ASUS VS247 1080p monitor I got over 10 years ago. My speakers are older than the average /v/ poster. RTX 5070 is more than enough, I can't imagine upgrading my monitor would make gaming any better.

>>737082515
no point in spending oled money if the smallest amount of light destroys the contrast, which is the entire point of oled in the first place

>>737082234
Yeah. It's nice. -_-

>>737082635
nah I had a TN panel for over 8 years and the switch to IPS and then mini-led was insane

I couldn't believe I was using such a shit monitor for years on end.. the colors were wrong, the refreshrate was terrible, the brighness absolute dogshit, viewing angles etc.

>>737080241
No, because I care about HDR I went with MiniLED.
But it does burn your retinas.

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I want a new tv, the budget is around $500
what should I look for and what are my best options?

>>737082635
monitors are arguably the only tech that has genuinely improved over the last 10 years, jumping from a 120hz 24" ips to 240hz 32" oled is amazing

>>737082835
HDR sucks major gorilla dick on windows no matter what monitor you use

>>737082789
also HDR support made a massive difference

>>737082605
Except miniled still has bloom and shit color due to still being back lit trash

>>737082903
keep saving and buy an LG C5 whenever it goes on sale

>>737082635
lol
lmao even
going from a 768p TN panel on a laptop to a 1440 p IPS panel to a QD-OLED panel were all huge improvements

>>737083119
why

>>737083050
And OLED still has burn-in and ABL. Blah blah blah. Pick your poison.

No. I got a 1080p Pavilion 24xw monitor, that I got off eBay for like 30 dollars.

I fell for the crt meme and now I've got strontium 90 poisoning

>>737083182
>ABL
any decent oled will have a uniform brightness setting

>>737083307
And any decent MiniLED will have sufficient dimming zones and a good dimming algorithm.

>>737082946
It's breddy gud here. https://files.catbox.moe/ceg8iw.jxr

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I got this guy because i learned i prefer curved monitors with only having 1 working eye
Flat monitors made my eye hurt
Think its led and typical acer quality it was scratched out of the box

why are oledfags so defensive

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is this a decent monitor for the price?
i've been using 1080p for like 16 years

>>737083687
Because they want to convince themselves that a $600 monitor is somehow not budget and they've ascended to richfaggotry.

>>737083837
you can get an aoc oled with 240hz refresh and actually good response times for the same exact price
this sucks absolute shit

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>>737080241
I did.
No regrets though, partner discount. I love it

>>737080241
the monitor tech isn't to blame for the retarded antiglare coating they put on them
i took mine off and it's great

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>>737084000
did you mean the qd oled?
also i'm a leaf so it's basically double the price
i want something with relatively good colors that won't break the bank since i like to draw so better color accuracy is quite important

>>737084218
>also i'm a leaf so it's basically double the price
I was about to say. I bought mine at $250, but I'm american.

>>737083837
thats an old version get the newer one

For me, it's the MSI 271KRAW16
>5K + Dual mode integer scaled 1440p
>Glossy
>1500nits
>Mini LED 2300 zones

>>737082370
With a constantly visible taskbar and for browsing and such? Without ever needing to interrupt anything to let the monitor do its maintenance routine?

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>Family PC has a nice asus VG278Q monitor great for anything really never burns in despite the youngsters using Roblox 3 hours a day.
>finally get hit by the power brick failure after like 5 years.
>family wants a new monitor instead of just replacing the brick like i tell them.
>drags me along to pick one
>Pick out a Samsung G5 ody since it seems to have decent reviews on most sites and i have 0 actual idea what makes a good monitor.

be honest /v/ did i fuck up and waste 500 dollarydoos.

>>737082370
Then show me a manufacturer offering a money back guarantee for burn-in. None of these companies will stand behind their product.

>>737085026
what do you think a 3 year burn in warranty is?

>>737085385
a way to jew you out of a couple bucks before the 3-eyar burn in develops?

>>737085385
a quarter what it should be

>>737085534
>>737085504
>i should get to replace something i've used for 3 years for free

>>737085602
>my product becomes useless unusable garbage in 3 years

>>737081280
>buy mini led
>can make bright things (like the sun) bright as FUCK
>blacks are still darker than any regular monitor
>didnt pay $900 for something that’s gonna get worse year after year
Yeah I’m thinking we won

>>737085684
it doesn't
you're just throwing a shitfit over not getting to exploit the warranty system for longer

>>737083445
lol nope, still need background for any color

>>737083445
>sufficient
even the best minileds have 1 dimming zone for every 6400 pixels
miniled cope is entirely centered around oled

>>737085684
With $350 OLEDs now available there's no reason not to get one if only for a dedicated gaming monitor, nothing else comes close. The fact that people are still using fucking TN panels in 2026 is insane

>>737086465
If $800 OLEDs cant go a few years without problems getting a cheap one would basically be throwing away money

>miniled comes along and basically lets people experience 98% of an oled monitor with none of the issues
>oledchuds freak out

>>737086751
Except every miniled is made by some no-name chink company with awful QC that means it'll die before any OLED gets burn in.

>>737086791
your oled is also made in china tardo
it's all china

Monitors are such a pain in the ass to look for compared to TVs, the worst part is deciding on resolution and panel type.

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>>737080241
I did temporarily for my livingroom. Went from the 2016 LG C6 OLED (regular OLED, not even WOLED it is so old) to the Samjew S90F 65" and immediately regretted it. I have a completely blacked out livingroom with a 9.1.4 surround sound system and that TV can't even pass through multi-channel DTS (beyond 2.1), no Dolby Vision, and worst of all even the reflections from my white skin across the room were enough to raise the black levels on the display (and the illumination from the display itself).
There is ZERO value in the wider color gamut if contrast plummets by simply turning the display on and using it. I'd rather perfect blacks of WOLED/Tandem OLED and miss out on color space that literally no movie/game/show uses yet personally.
So yeah refunded it for a superior/cheaper LG C5 65" and my desktop monitor is a 48" LG and my wife's is a 42" C4 oled.
LG display master race. Samsung's QDOLED is eWaste and only retards that listen to shills like Linus Cuck Tips think otherwise.

>>737082389
The luminance from the display raises the black levels and crushes contrast in all scenes, it is just noticeable in dark scenes. QDOLED is ewaste because it can't use a polarizer. If they ever figure out how to include a polarizer (they can't) then it will be LG's OLEDs.

>>737086926
Because unless you are a kinophile you dont need a TV that looks good. You just buy whatever model sounds decent, plop it in front of people, turn on sportsball (broadcast at 720p with compression) and normalfags cant tell the difference.

Monitors you know instantly when you buy a piece of shit.

>>737086895
Korea I think is where they’re mostly made

>>737087012
How fucking far away do you have to sit from a 48 inch tv for it to be usable on a desk?

>>737087012
>muh ambient light
>>737082313

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>MSI MAG 272QP
is it good?

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>bought a mini led monitor and experiencing HDR for the first time
its glorious

>>737087923
XG27AQDMGR is better and is the same msrp

total FALD victory

>>737088041
not where i live

>>737087989
I'll probably go with one too, I love my OLED tv but I got used to the picture quality pretty fast and I don't want to be stressing over static elements all the time. Anything is an upgrade from my 10 year old IPS monitor

>>737088123
opposite where I live lmao, the asus one is cheaper funnily enough
just wait for a sale, or if its available get the XG27AQDMG, its an older version of the same monitor so it doesn't have the new fancy trueblack glossy coating, just a regular glossy coating, but otherwise its the exact same thing

>>737080241
I did. My desktop QD-OLED doesn't have this problem at all and it's right next to a window with no curtains. My Steam Deck OLED does tho. Maybe because my desktop monitor is matte? idk.
In any case I love both displays, who gives a shit.

How do you find a good ratio between resolution and size for a decent PPI without going too small?

>>737088747
The PPIautists are generally running shit settings or quality, so they want an insanely high PPI to obscure flaws. If you run 4k max details, shit gonna be good. Get a big screen.

>>737088747
4k - 32"
1440p - 27"
1080p - 24"
can't go wrong with this

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>>737087454
>How fucking far away do you have to sit from a 48 inch tv for it to be usable on a desk?
3 feet. It is perfect. Check any AV standards for optimal viewing distance by resolution and screen size. It also is pixel perfect 1:1 with my 1440p 32" portrait side panel.
>>737087679
>he can't read
Sad. I clearly stated the room is fully blacked out with thick blackout curtains, film on the one window the reflects light back outside, and even black paint on the walls in the livingroom. There is nothing you do to prevent it. Even if you could remove all ambient light and reflections it wouldn't matter because the illumination from the panel itself is more than enough to destroy contrast.
It would be possible to prevent the self-emissive pixels from crushing contrast if you could delete the concept of light bouncing entirely. Because it reflects off the coating back into the nearby pixels and ruins contrast, let alone off your skin/shirt/sofa/teeth/eyes/etc. I've A/B'd both panel types in person. It is clear what is superior. Objectively. And it isn't QDOLED

>>737080241
I have QLED

>>737087454
I do 55" at ~3-4 feet when at the keyboard, and a little further when I'm leaned back with a gamepad. You might need more distance if you don't get a curved screen, though.

>>737084218
I've had this monitor since 2024. It's solid, but the HDR sucks and the VRR flicker is pretty bad in dark scenes. Also, upgrading the firmware (which supposedly improves these things) at least is mine is just broken and doesn't work at all, so I'm stuck. OLED just also isn't really all that. Overhyped as fuck.

>>737088747
Bigger monitors are better, they let you have a more natural viewing distance

>>737085713
Nice poorfag cope

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>>737080241
Me.

Maybe it's my room lighting but if the purple is there, it's definitely not perceptible. Perfect blacks. Anyway if you guys ever see an AW3225QF or whatever other brand uses the same panel or whatever the 1440p version is on sale, I can speak for it. It's quite based.

>>737089323
>buy $2500 MiniLED
>at least I'm not some poorfag who buys a $1k budget OLED

>>737089640
>one dimming zone fails
>entire panel is fucked
At least I do not have the burning, saar! ACK!!!!

No, I still own the best woled in existence (LG C1) and it has no burn in at all still.
I'm getting worried that lg still isn't making any better TVs, though. If it breaks I'm fucked because nothing compares to this model for gaming.

>>737090037
>buy another $2500 MiniLED
>at least I'm not some poorfag that SAARposts

>>737087012
ever since I got my LG C1 a few years ago I stopped playing on my IPS monitors as they just looked horrible in comparison - backlight bleed/ips glow in corners, blacks and dark scenes always look washed out/grey, sdr looks very flat compared to HDR.

so I tried a QD OLED monitor as I wanted to get back into mouse/kb games and it was just my monitor putting me off - got an aw2725d - and yeah side by side with the LG C1 the black level raise is highly noticeable even in an extremely dimly lit room with no sunlight. you basically have to have no light at all, even something small will raise the black levels so they're never perfect like WOLED. still a huge upgrade over IPS crap but it's the first thing I noticed as it's almost side by side with my C1.

also another thing that bothers me is glossy monitors being "semi-glossy" while LG TVs are 100% super slick glossy that looks clear as fuck.

>>737085684
I watched an oled long term review the other day and the guy said he used it for 3 or so hours a day on average for 3 years and developed burn-in in that time. They need a 5 year warranty at minimum. Lg offers that with their tvs but not their monitors which was the monitor that guy had burn-in on.

>>737088553
It's been solved for a few generations now

>>737080241
No but i did fall for the 1440p scam. I should have stuck to 1080p and saved several hundred dollars in hardware

>>737090319
>ever since I got my LG C1 a few years ago I stopped playing on my IPS monitors as they just looked horrible in comparison - backlight bleed/ips glow in corners, blacks and dark scenes always look washed out/grey, sdr looks very flat compared to HDR.
Man I feel you. Honestly I wish I never got that 2016 LG C6 way back because I am RUINED now. I cannot tolerate anything other than OLED. I can't even enjoy my switch 2 in handheld. It is just such a psychotically dramatic jump in quality. It is like the jump from PS1 era to Xbox 360 era in what it adds to the enjoyment/experience/etc.
>>737090319
>so I tried a QD OLED monitor as I wanted to get back into mouse/kb games and it was just my monitor putting me off - got an aw2725d - and yeah side by side with the LG C1 the black level raise is highly noticeable even in an extremely dimly lit room with no sunlight. you basically have to have no light at all, even something small will raise the black levels so they're never perfect like WOLED. still a huge upgrade over IPS crap but it's the first thing I noticed as it's almost side by side with my C1.
Yeah it is unfortunate. I could have maybe tolerated it for a livingroom display if it wasn't for the fact that all QDOLED TVs are missing support for 75% of existing digital media on earth.
I do dig how gorgeous the expanded color volume is but even how much deeper the color space is didn't make up for the fact that contrast was obliterated by the illumination of the display itself or the reflection from my face and that was at TV viewing distances. I couldn't do it with a monitor. But I'd imagine a matte coating would help psychologically at least.
>>737090319
>also another thing that bothers me is glossy monitors being "semi-glossy" while LG TVs are 100% super slick glossy that looks clear as fuck.
I prefer matte coating. My wife's 42" LG C4 is super glossy and it does look nice but I really like how the matte coating makes you forget the coating exists.

I love my QD OLED its like looking into a window so real

>>737082370
The tech getting "better" just means it takes slightly longer.

If you use an OLED, because it is organic, and degrades quicker, it will always burn in SOMETHING. It doesn't matter whether your screen is always changing, or if you have a toolbar stuck on the bottom. Your OLED is going to die based on how it is being used. All that changing your screen use or playing different games changes, is how it burns in.

>>737090431
Why would they give such a long warranty for something they know will fail in that time?

The whole point of OLEDs, is you buy a new one every three years. They look great, but they don't last. The only warranty they could offer would cover things besides burn in, and that's getting into
>do you want to insure your ram?
>we offer a five month warranty for PSU fans!
tier Zionist Jewery

>>737090813
how is it a scam? 1440 is great especially for desktop use. there is so much extra screen estate and everything looks so sharp

>>737081881
OLED has burn-in potential, aggressive ABL, VRR flicker, suboptimal pixel layout and dirty screen at low luminance

MiniLED VA has black smearing, poor viewing angles, VRR flicker, suboptimal pixel layout, and some local dimming blooming

MiniLED IPS has the worst contrast and local dimming blooming of the 3, but none of the other flaws.

Pick your poison.

>>737081209
Every thing

Entropy is a bitch

>>737092281
A lot of the MiniLED flaws are minimized or not present in higher end Samsung stuff.

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What's stopping you from just playing games on a regular TV like everyone else?

>>737092421
Show me a VA panel that doesn't smear or VRR flicker

>>737092431
I've been almost exclusively playing on a tv for a year now. Windows hdr is annoying but there are workarounds. Also windows with a controller in general sucks but hopefully they fix that with the upcoming xbox full screen mode.

>>737081881
BUY LATEST MOST EXPENSIVE THING
t.industry shill

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>>737092119
>If you use an OLED, because it is organic, and degrades quicker, it will always burn in SOMETHING. It doesn't matter whether your screen is always changing, or if you have a toolbar stuck on the bottom. Your OLED is going to die based on how it is being used. All that changing your screen use or playing different games changes, is how it burns in.
We're been at a point with OLED tech, since about 2020, where the panel degrades significantly slower than a TN panel. You're going to get panel burn-in on an IPS/VA/TN panel caused by the LED backlight much quicker than any permanent burn-in on OLED displays. Just look at the 5 year long tests RTINGS has been doing on this topic. With the exception of Sony and some Samsung displays that implemented incorrect voltage specs and ABL due to sheer incompetence (because the identical panel part number did not suffer the same fate when properly implemented) OLED survives 2x as long as high end LCD displays which burn in rapidly by comparison and in very noticeable ways rather than just on blank gray images. They turn yellow and will have clear ghosts of logos (on LCD). So you're operating on a mindset that is a decade old. There is zero drawback for going OLED today other than cost and we're nearly to a point where that is not a drawback (1440p 27" 240Hz panels regularly drop to 300-ish dollars if you price watch on slickdeals).

>>737092709
Don't care about OLED burn-in at this point, I care about all the other shitty flaws you get for that price premium

>>737092421
>higher end Samsung stuff.
Samsung has completely abandoned miniLED as have all sane manufacturers since there is no way to automate the LED placement. Everyone has swapped to MiniRGB which is NOT the same thing in the slightest with the exception of Sony and TCL (but TCL has it exclusive to 98" and above screens). So I don't know what displays you're talking about. It is an inferior tech and they have to overdrive luminance on the LEDs which rapidly degrades the panel life (extreme burn-in).

>>737092585
Download AutoActions and set it to turn on HDR on a per game basis

>>737092773
There are zero flaws other than in 25 years you might get burn-in, but you would have gotten that in 1/6th the time with a modern LCD panel.

>>737092773
just rope yourself, minipenis shill.

>>737092848
>>737092871
see
>>737092281
the only disingenuous shills here are you

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>please please please! buy our OLEDSHIT your IPS is going to get BURN IN
they're so desperate ahahahaha

>>737092709
>it does burn in, but
>IPS/VA/TN burn in faster than OLED
This is just bullshit lol

>>737080241
Yeah i did because i just draw my curtains all the time and darken my room. Therefore its pitch black all the time. What you're demonstrating is something i notice which is why i close my blinds. If you have no control over the lighting situation in your room then its a problem. Not for me. I have an oled pannel in the same room and under dark conditions they're almost near identical in blacks and darker colors. Neither monitor would look like a light in a room.

>>737092829
I have but it doesn't work with the gamepass games I play since the executables are locked away in a secure folder and selecting the uwp executable doesn't work. And it the app crashes wheh I select uwp now anyway since I updated my pc a couple days ago. Works fine with steam games though.

>Everything I can't afford is a meme/scam
Let's please stop this fox and the grapes bullshit

>>737093096
holy shit that sounds like a dystopian nightmare
why the fuck do you use it

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>>737092912
OLED has had normal RGB stripped array pixels for 3 years now. What year do you think it is? I haven't seen VRR flicker on any of my 5 OLEDs. ABL is easily disabled if you don't want it (but it is kind of the point in a lot of content, but I do have it disabled in my C4 and C5 by going into the debug menu, about 30 seconds of button presses).
>>737092970
Go check RTINGS long term burn-in study. All panel types suffered burn-in but LCD had the most catastrophic failure. Pic related, this is Samsungs highest end LCD display. Their QLED panel tech. The heat from the backlight even caused the screen to CRACK lmfao, long after it burned in of course.
I don't understand your cope here. MiniLED is more expensive than compatible but objectively superior OLED panels these days. I'm sorry you got duped anon but the first step in healing is admitting you have a problem.

>>737093158
Use what? Hdr or gamepass? Hdr because it looks cool. Gamepass because I stacked a bunch of years for cheap a few years ago so I may as well use it. Forza horizon 6 is out soon.

>>737093174
>yes, i do enjoy spreading complete fabrication

>>737093174
You cannot disable an OLED's built-in hardware-level ABL dumbfuck.
And true RGB layouts have only started appearing this year in select monitors
why are you so fucking jewish?

>>737093174
>I haven't seen VRR flicker on any of my 5 OLEDs
I don't think I've seen one without it.
They don't play well with gsync at higher refresh rates regardless. I just learned to live with it in some scenarios unless its too distracting then i just disable it.

>>737093396
I hate that I've been so spoiled with VRR, its literally one of the best display technologies ever created for gaming, and now everyone is trying to brush it back under the rug because all the high end monitors suffer from flickering

>>737084047
>QD-OLED meme
>curved meme
>4K meme
>alienware meme
it came with a BEST GOY CONSOOMER IN THE UNIVERSE plaque, right?

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>>737093343
>You cannot disable an OLED's built-in hardware-level ABL dumbfuck.
I know this is bait but for once I'll spoon feed you retards: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HlocWf_wR3A
First link in Jewgle. It is quick, easy and 100% correct. I don't know about inferior QDOLED displays but you can disable it on objectively superior LG Displays. Faggot.
>>737093396
If you're talking about using Window's native VRR over HDMI, the VESA standard, sure yeah that shit is awful. But if you enable Nvidia Gysnc which bypasses Windows VRR and talks directly to the scalar, there is none. You should check your settings if you're suffering some self-inflected flicker. Turn OFF vrr in advanced display settings in windows. That is not necessary or recommended in a panel that supports Gsync via scalar compatability mode or dedicated gsync scalar.
>>737093335
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
Anyway niggers, enjoy your night of coping and seething. I'm gonna go watch anime on my bedroom OLED and get a blowjob from my wife.

>>737081881
OLED's have motion blur which makes them bad for video games.
They also have a long list of other flaws.

They're the best panel type for watching movies on though. But it is stop-gap tech and needs to be replaced ASAP.

The current best panel type for gaming is still plasma. Because they have zero motion blur and perfect blacks.

I don't understand what the point of getting an OLED is if you're not someone who works or has a hobby that you need the color and picture quality like an artist or a photographer. Until then, it's just a splurge at your mere convenience rather a utility that better serves its functionalities

>>737093610
ASBL IS NOT THE FUCKING SAME AS THE BUILT-IN ABL YOU FUCKING RETARD
holy FUCK
The built-in ABL is what determines the overall peak brightness curve depending on how much of the screen is being illuminated and CANNOT be defeated since it is designed AT THE HARDWARE VOLTAGE LEVEL
goddamn you people are stupid as fuck

>>737093452
Yeah its annoying because i was spoiled by decent VRR tech like gsync for close to 11 years now or something. And that was when they put the modules in the monitor so they were pricey by doing that method since that was removing layers of abstraction between the GPU and monitor. Now it's soft emulation and i think i can notice the difference a little but thats hard for me to verify those claims about whether or not old gsync was better. Only shit part is that LCD response times were so abysmally worse compared to OLED that its hard to go back. Feels like two steps forward one step back kind of thing.

>>737093610
Educate yourself, retard
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-dimming-confusion-apl-abl-asbl-tpc-and-gsr-explained

>>737092431
The same reason why /p/ will go and buy the most retardedly expensive cameras for taking random-ass objects to shitpost about or ask about how much of a hassle it is to take photographs of black people.

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>>737080241
I did, acer predator x27u. I've had it since December of last year and it still working fine. I tired of IPS backlight bleed bullshit and I decided to upgrade and never looked back.

>>737093610
>article is about failure rates primarily in EDGE LIT TVS
>this somehow applies to miniLED computer monitors
>FALD TVs only had long term issues in 20% of cases
Are you just lying for fun right now?

plasma 4 lyfe

>>737093775
>>737093706
APL can't be disable of course. Just like you can't change the peak brightness of ANY panel tech period. ABL however is the firmware controlling brightness external to how hard the display can be driven for panel care. You are just shifting goalposts. You can disable ABL. Obviously you can't change the peak brightness of a panel. You have a 2% brightness peak value which is the most useful measurement for HDR. Who the fuck is watching a blank white screen and thinking "BOY IS IT SHITTY THE ENTIRE SCREEN ISN'T 1300 NITS!"
I won't hear this hebrew dialectic nonsense. Get fucked. A full screen peak brightness of 1300 nits is exactly why LCD panel life is significantly lower than OLED. Because LCD has to be driven a LOT harder and thus HOTTER to reach similar contrast levels which literally COOKS the panel. That's why display manufacturers do 100% identical things with FALD via MiniLED to avoid VAPORIZING their displays since you can't circumvent the laws of thermodynamics. They raise brightness to 5K nits in a tiny zone on LCD with FALD to generate the contrast and luminance values required for HDR. You guys should put down the crack pipe and read what you linked. I read every article by TFT Central and RTINGS.

>>737093775
lol he got real quiet after this

>>737093986
Wrong, it is miniLED, quantum dot LED (high end LCD panels), OLED, QDOLED, WOLED, etc. Every display type.

>>737094085
>you can disable ABL
literally from the article you failed to read:
>There is no way to disable ABL at all, even using a service menu of an OLED screen – it’s an inherent technical and power limitation. Nothing you can change in any service menu would turn this off.

>>737082426
Nonsense I've been using my ultrawide for 15 years now and I can't go back.
So much extra room.

Curved, 2k, and anything over 29" is a meme but flat 2560x1080 29" ultrawide is the sweet spot.

>>737094085
>Where ABL is used in HDR situations, older OLED panels tended to be poorer at handling the changes and you could sometimes see noticeable dimming and brightness changes as scenes changed. This was often with a short lag as well, so even in real usage and dynamic content sometimes things appeared to be dimming and brightening oddly. This was simply the screen adjusting because of the ABL. On modern OLED panels it is much less of an issue and generally the algorithms that control this do so very well. Personally I have very rarely seen issues with this in normal usage on OLED TV’s I’ve used. Some people do find it problematic or distracting, and sometimes will rule out OLED as a result. If you want super high peak brightness beyond what you can get from OLED today, and the ability to keep that same peak brightness at all APL’s then an LCD panel with something like a Mini LED backlight might be a better solution for you.

>>737094085
holy COPE

>>737094134
Yeah, and the running theme is that edge lit TVs are shit. I dont know how that applies to computer monitors

>>737080241
I did

>>737080995
enjoy your dirty screen and gray banding I guess

>>737080241
No I fell for the woled scam with the dog shit vertical lines during dark scenes
Thanks a lot rtings 9/10 my ass this is almost as bad as ips

>>737083615
what happened to your eye anon?

>>737092709
you are out of your fucking mind if you believe that
>>737092970
yeah, oled fags are trying to NO U with a problem thats specific to oleds.
It's ridiculous.
>>737093174
>Go check RTINGS long term burn-in study.
I don't have to fucking retard, I Have real life experience with LCDs being used for a decade.
None, zero, NADA of my LCD monitors have burned in or even stopped working and I gamed heavily on those, like 8 hours a day. You are a fucking retard

>>737093610
>supremely retarded, or intentionally spreading false information
I can't decide.

my main monitor was oled and fucking died in less than a year, was a cheap used refurb, and got a brand new expensive 700+ dollar one as a replacement. it still sucks and has issues. oled as main monitor is a mistake

>>737097913
I'm just using OLED until mini led monitors with more than 1000 zones become common

>>737098041
Mine has 1056. Of course, this liar (>>737092791) claims it's not MiniLED.

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So is there a monitor worth buying?

>>737098118
Get a CRT. 480p30 on a 14" CRT is better than 4k480 on an OLED.

>>737092791
>there is no way to automate the LED placement.
????????

>>737098118
Basic LCD for 100 to 300$

>>737098117
Yeah I don't think that's enough
2k 3k should be the starting point

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>>737080241
of course not

>>737098118
Don't bother with an oled if you spend a lot of time browsing web/on desktop, best bet atm is one of the $500 HDR1000/1000zone chink minileds from amazon
if yours has issues (extremely likely) you can always return it for a good one (do not rely on the chink RMA, they'll make up some reason you can't send it back)

the fancy expensive af replacement monitor they gave me just the basic plug in the back is almost faulty you just slightly tap it and it disconnects the monitor and you gotta replug it in
really shit

>>737092709
>LCD burn in rapidly
I don't know which reality are you from but the actual RTINGS tests show two things:
1, Every Oled will burn in. Guaranteed. The manufacturers improved burn in reduction significantly and watching movies doesn't seem to be an issue anymore (and who watches news constantly today) but these TVs are sold with PC/console gaming support for a reason. It is bullshit to claim it is extreme usage if you have constant hud elements on your screen. To this day no one can guarantee anything for your specific use case. If you are doing high brightness/hdr/ui elements constantly it will get fucked in a few years.
2, If your only criteria for usability is: "Can the panel show a recognizable image?" then LCDs in general fail more than Oleds. This is of course ignores the fact the test had a bunch of LCDs from the low quality budget range which doesn't exist in Oled. However at this point you can also ask the question: who will need replace their screen more frequently? The Average Joe with an LCD who probably won't notice any kind of smearing or tint until the panel completely gives up or the perfect picture obsessed OLED user who gets faint uniformity issues the moment he runs his favorite game "too much".
>t. actual Oled gamer

>>737080241
Do i look like i know what jpg is?

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>>737080241
>OLED? miss me with that garbage, the bleed-in over time is terrible

i love my glossy WOLED and would quit playing video games before going back to anything less

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>>737080241
I don't know when I'll ever be staring at a black screen on my monitor so these things are fucking retarded.
OLED still needs to be babied in 2026.
See that viral video of the LG OLED turning itself off because of the Resident Evil gun flash kicking in the anti-burn in technology LMAO

No, that e-waste is homo shit. The higher IQ move is to be content with anything shit and mid. If you get fancier meme garbage, you'll only want to spend more. It's like taking in BBC and getting addicted to cock.

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>>737099425
>he doesn't play old jrpg's on his OLED in the dark so it looks like the rooms are floating
unironically NGMI

>>737083837
I have that monitor, no complaints at all
really nice when I'm able to actually use the HDR for something, I don't give a single fuck what anyone says that shit looks amazing when it's done well

>>737099535
I don't because I just play the games and my focus is on the games and character, not black levels like a blacked cuck.

>>737099514
>homo shit
>It's like taking in BBC and getting addicted to cock.
least homosexual OLED detractor. seriously anon you need to take a step back and look in the mirror and ask yourself why these are the analogies that come to mind

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Let me guess, you ''need'' more

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WOLED turns to shit at high brightness.
Anyway take the QD-OLED TV PILL, one without the shitty anti glare coating (like the S95f).

>>737099562
>i willingly suffer an objectively worse experience due to my poor financial status
that's fine anon i'm not judging you but coping like this isn't healthy.
27" 1440p 240hz OLED's are $350 right now. if that's too rich for your blood you need to evacuate the third world (the US is full however)

>>737080241
They're much better than WOLED even in a bright room actually, the 4th gen brought a black shield to every panel which severely tone down the purple hue and it also keeps the far superior color of the QD OLED, colors that WOLED simply can't reach

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>>737099632
>27"
Yes, I do need more.
Currently have a 32", open to getting an even bigger monitor, but I'm poor right now.

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>>737080241
I bought one last year, I like it for games and watching the occasional slop, I have a 32" 4k ips monitor for actual productivity though.

>>737080302
>CRT grift
>grift
you can get one from a dumspter

>>737099632
I bought a monitor like this 10 years ago, has IPS even improved since then at all?

>>737099835
no, the improvement is that OLED now costs what IPS did 10 years ago so you just buy OLED

>>737099675
Lmao, "objectively worse" + broke-shaming + "evacuate the third world"? is peak cope.

Yes, $350 27" 1440p 240Hz QD-OLEDs exist. Still doesn't make OLED the smart choice for PC use.

PC desktops, browsers, Discord, code, and taskbars are static for hours. OLED suffers uneven wear and burn in risk, that's why every manufacturer now gives a 3 year burn in warranty. IPS has zero permanent burn-in.
Add QD OLED's triangle subpixels causing text fringing/rainbowing on Windows UI, and you get worse clarity for actual daily work. Perfect blacks are great for dark room gaming,movies, but for mixed PC use? The jump from good IPS isn't worth the risks, mitigations, and hassle.
IPS = reliable, sharp text, no anxiety.
OLED = luxury with trade-offs you're ignoring.

Stay mad you have to babysit a panel.

The only babysitting you have to do is pixel refresh tbqhfam
I've played on my Vita a lot and it doesn't have any sign of burn in at all, it really depends on the use case but this is almost a 15 years old console at this point

>>737099835
Dell now makes 120hz 4k ultrasharps, but that's about it.

>>737098584
Wasn't the RTINGS test with edge lit TV sized LCDs running news channels? Some static elements from the news ticker and so on but the test case seems to favour OLED and drawing conclusion out of this for game usage seems rather questionable.

>>737099864
do you not have 2 monitors, brokie? turn off the OLED when you aren't gaming, it's that easy

>>737099947
>I willingly suffer an objectively worse desktop experience because I bought into something thats only really goof for TVs
lmaoing.

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tfw no modern 16:10 gaming monitor

>>737100460
Steam deck

>>737100460
gay meme aspect ratio

>OLEDfags obsession with the blackest of the blacks
BBC black porn fetish

>>737080241
OLED are a scam, i paid for all the pixels on my monitors and by gods given right as a consumer i demand to see them (at full brightness) at all times

Bought the XG32UCWMG and the gloss really is glossy. Driving that with a laptop also is kinda fucky, both performance and driver wise. Also sad that it isn't curved at that size. Other than that it's crazy how black blacks can be.

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>>737101293
>I bring up poopdicks out of nowhere all the time because I think about them 24/7 but it's you who's obssessed with them doe!

>>737080241
>Youtube reviewers

Totally un-biased and absolutely not going to backpedal their "hardware testing" with "uh, i was just giving my opinion, you can't actually hold me accountable to my reviews lol".

Don't buy a qd-oled, but don't not buy one because a fucking youtuber influenced you, cut your dick off if you're unable to formulate your own opinions.

>>737080995
>rape and gape

Imagine if your mother heard what you type.

Gamers will do anything but upgrade their desk and chair.

>>737081881
OLED is the future, you are a getting fed lies by anybody who says otherwise, I cannot tell you how insane QD-OLED actually looks IRL, all of these poorfags are letting youtubers lie to them, it's hilarious, I also could not tell the edge of the screen from the bevel of my monitor when playing re requiem either

>>737084467
6 minutes of "pixel refreshing" is nothing, go stretch your legs or something

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Me? I am a mini-LED enjoyer. Waiting for the new RGB-mini-LED monitors that should be coming out next year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGmk4QChD4

Is there a 2k glossy mini led that doesn't get the quality murdered by also being dual mode?

>>737099864
>goes to videogame board
>"yeah uh, unless you're gaming, this isn't worth it lol"

huh

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>>737099535
I game on a Hisense 75U8K (MiniLED ADS-Pro panel) and I decided to see what this looked like in a pitch black room, this is what I got.

>>737101708
>glossy
they barely make glossy monitors anymore

>>737099807
Have you been living under a rock anon? Any halfway decent crts start at like $300 where I live. Normie hustlers learned that retrogaming nerds are willing to pay money for that

>>737101728
You spend 75% of your stime shitting up the thread.

>>737101741
damn that's nice

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>>737101694
oh yeah, totally the same, youtubers are 100% trustworthy, absolutely unbiased never motivated for views ever promise uwu

>>737101791
This isn't a quality thread, I could ask why you're even in here.

>>737101825
Only visible on camera, your naked eye will never see the difference. If anything, the mini-LED will look better because it's brighter.

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>>737101741
>>737101792
Here's one using the 50 megapixel camera (S26)
I think it came out nicer

>>737101864
If anything, the mini-LED will look worse because it's a cheaper panel.

>>737101694
>chink shilling a chink monitor
You can't be this stupid, anon. MiniLED is inherently a cope. There's no way to avoid blooming except for crushing black detail. MicroLED is the only solution, but that's forever vaporware.

>>737101757
Most new WOLEDs are glossy or have a glossy option.

>>737101864
>the mini-LED will look better because it's brighter
Yeah, just like TVs look their best when set to the 'Vivid' preset or equivalent. Brighter means betterer after all. Fuck accuracy and scorch my eyeballs!

>>737101891
A hamburger is cheaper than a restaurant meal, but it tastes better.

get BTFO you stupid faggot

Still on TN while you keep arguing about pixels lol.

>>737101694
>spend $1000 on monitor
>lose to $300 one
KEK

>>737101950
It's not like you personally invented OLED, I don't understand why you're so angry.

>>737101939
nah brother, try using an OLED in a somewhat well lit room, it looks worse than the cheapest LCD, the mini led doesn't have this problem

>>737101792
Yeah I absolutely love this TV. It's not perfect, but its damn good for the asking price and since it uses ADS Pro panel is has zero smearing or VRR flickering.
Its really unfortunate that Hisense isn't using the ADS for their 2026 flagship models.
If this one ever dies I just hope they are still making the 2025 version, miss me with that VA shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvnX3AIq8Q (not my video, just one I found that best showed how good this tv looks)

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>>737101950
OH SAY CAN YOU SHAAAAAART

>>737101983
Except the OLED is clearly better and this is just youtuber fence-sitting bullshit.

You're not seriously going to not buy an OLED because a youtuber told you to, are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRGwzbnuLJA

>>737102038
I listen to /g/, and they say to get a CRT and run Windows 98. You don't need more.

>>737102085
>youtuber "opinion"
>youtuber "opinion"
>youtuber "opinion"
>youtuber "opinion"
>youtuber "opinion"

Maybe, just maybe, they're saying shit for views

>>737080241
I did, wasn't a big improvement over my VA screens honestly. Not sure the advantages are worth the inconvenience of their automatic maintainence routines

>>737102038
OLED does not have enough brightness for a true HDR experience.

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>>737102085
HOLY SHIT
OLED fags on suicide watch

>>737102085
Kek the MiniLEDs brightness mogs the OLED's so hard it makes it look dim as fuck due to the camera's fixed ISO level

>>737102115
g will tell you to get a 1440p oled

>>737102167
OLED shills will try to cope and say the test is rigged, but if they set the camera to where the OLED looked bright, the MiniLED's brightness would be absolutely blowing out the camera and just look like a blinding blur

>>737102142
It will if you buy the >$1000 monitors with HDR capabilities

But otherwise, nobody is saying monitors are better than TV's, and TV's cost like over $10k for the best, so you're not even being fair bringing up HDR either, faggot.

>>737080241
I just have regular LCD monitors that let me play at 1920x1280 and 144fps.
>look at prices of oled
>$500+
No thanks
I'll buy the valve VR headset to experience something visually cool

OLEDs are the latest e-waste slop. Built by the jews

>>737102247
Modern TVs absolutely mog modern monitors, but I understand not everyone is willing to dedicate an entire room to a gaming PC home theater setup
*comfily browsing the chans from a recliner*

>>737102293
your life is waste

>>737102313
Modern TV's have higher input lag, because they are not designed for gaming but instead cinematic viewing.

You shouldn't compare monitors and TV's

>>737102324
keep on coping incel

>>737102363
I'd rather be an incel than some brain-retarded faggot who cannot physically stop thinking about Jewish people or Black men.

God, imagine just walking around thinking of Jews or Indians or African people, what fucked your brain up?

>he fell for the OLED meme
thanks for funding MicroLED research, I guess

>Upgrade monitor
>Now I have to buy 5090 as well
I think this is a trap.

>>737102443
I used 4K display with 2070S thanks to DLSS

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>>737081881
Glossy vs matte is the only spec that matters, unfortunately glossy displays are incredibly rare and often reserved for expensive professional monitors, almost all OLED pannels have a glossy finish so that's why they immediately pop out in side by side comparisons. Virtually all gaymen monitors have a matte finish except for OLED.

>>737102360
Most modern AAA slop is made with "weight delay" precisely because most people pretend to enjoy gameplay while on TV.

>>737099807
Anyone who had a CRT and was about to throw it out already did so years ago, there aren't any left. Other than checking out your local landfill your best bet is to buy it from some shitposter who talks about how great CRTs are by day, and lists them on FB marketplace by night. It's a whole system. You're going to be paying the original 90's prices adjusted for inflation though.

What site do I use for display tests, now that RTINGS is paywalled?

>>737102443
My monitor can be turned into a 27" or smaller with lower res with black bars for gaming

>>737102443
Always has been. Remember those times when you played 240p in ps1 and were still happy?

>>737102536
I took out my first family PC out of attic last week. Waiting for VGA HDMI/DisplayPort converter to use CRT with my current PC/Steam Deck.

Is there a way to force resolution and refresh rate.
I tried MOHAA on this old PC, but it forced 60 Hz in game.

>>737102536
>>737099807
I wish I saved mine, but was stupid and fell for "more space" meme.
Thief and Deus Ex play like different games on CRT instead of TN/IPS LCD

>>737080241
I bought a miniled and I love it.

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your honest thoughts on this?

when I first got my QD-OLED a year ago I had to get my jaw off the floor
it is THAT good
it's not without problems like gay dimming or having to set up lighting in my room (close the blinds a bit and move main lights behind the monitor) or 3x the cost of a high end IPS
but at the end of the day it is genuinely a better investment than a new gpu
>>737102167
realistically you won't go above X lumens
especially in a dark room
also you do not know how exposure in photography works do you?

>>737102794
Mini led is the future yes
Now I wish they wouldn't import these newer models from China at a snails pace

>>737102854
also fun fact: I calculated that on my QD-OLED burn in shouldn't become an issue before 6-7th year of usage even if I use it for productivity
in the same timespan I had 2 LED TV failures: one panel failure and one backlight failure

>>737080241
Mine looks like left though.

>>737102968
What brightness setting are you using?

>>737080241
WOLED are inferior in color volume though it can't even reach 75% mean while QD-OLED can easily reach 95% and above

Isn't mini LED just LCD with more dimming zones?
What am I missing?

>>737102854
>realistically you won't go above X lumens
It looks very impressive in HDR games. I recently played Stellar Blade, really good HDR implementation. Explosions look like flashes of light.

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>>737103076
i have a MSI MAG 27 something whatever and i'm at 50 brightness in SDR and like 70 in HDR
but again I was at freedom to move change tge lighting in my room to fit the monitor
>>737103205
it's fun for around 30 minutes before your eyes start to get tired

>>737103301
>it's fun for around 30 minutes before your eyes start to get tired
That's not true. You get good HDR at 1000 nits, the average sunny day is 10000 nits. The sudden brightness peaks are rare in HDR.

>>737103301
>MSI MAG 27 something whatever and i'm at 50 brightness in SDR and like 70 in HDR
It'll develop burn-in in 1-2 years at that brightness, if you want it to last for 10k+ hours, you'll have to lower it to 20%.

>>737103125
Yes

>>737102794
"perfect blacks" they said, lol

>>737101773
Maybe its so on the west. Here I can find a 17 inch CRT for under $20.

>>737102932
>Now I wish they wouldn't import these newer models from China at a snails pace
Yeah, China already has 2000+ zone mini leds, and they are dirt cheap over there

>>737080241
>screen started "bleaching" at the top
>The "bleached" parts now have my desktop icons burnt in
Fuck

>>737080241
>you didn't fall for the QD-OLED scam
I almost did, but returned it over its glossy coat microscratching like a motherfucker even using distilled water and a fresh microfiber

>>737103936
I almost fell for it, but then I realized OLEDs are so dim that I won't be able to use them in my bright room with 3 open windows.

>>737100989
>extra space == bad

>>737102443
Idk when I bought my pc (I had to built from scratch including monitors) I specifically targeted fullhd
Still should've went for 4070 Ti instead of base model methinks

>>737080241
i sit in a pretty dark room, it's just objectively superior to WOLEDs in that condition

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I play video games on an integrated graphics laptop

>>737102360
Modern TVs have game modes that nullify any input latency and puts them on par with desktop monitors.
Any competent review will prove this.

>>737101757
i have a glossy QD-OLED, looks absolutely incredible

>>737080241
i only ever see it like that when its off (which it is in your pic)

>>737105042
Mostly correct but not true in the case of sony tvs which, last time I checked at least, had a 60hz input lag longer than one frame.

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>infinite size
>takes no space
>negligible power draw
it's time to take the vr pill

>>737106743
Huh?
The complete opposite is true.

>>737080853
/thread

The butthurt about oleds is funny, it shows off retarded habits
Imagine staring at a max brightness screen when curtains are $20
Imagine wasting screen space on a taskbar
Imagine preferring the whole screen being a light source with light mode
Imagine wanting it to be on when you're not looking at it
All of it is just brown and retard behaviour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15aIdl-HKWc

>spend $1000 on a monitor
>cant even use it for basic computer stuff like web browsing without burn in
OMEGALUL

>>737099793
How are you finding this anon? I've been eyeing this one off for a while, but it's still fucking expensive for a monitor.

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>>737106818
you gorilla nigger retard

>>737080995
Literally the only reason to buy an OLED is if you want an amazing image quality.

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>>737080241
still the king of screens

>>737080954
My monitor from my high school days in 2012 still usable today

>>737080804
the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice

>>737109743
I still have my old ass IPS somewhere i think I bought it around 2011, but side by side with newer monitor it looks like shit.
>very dim
>60Hz
>1080p
>awful motion blur
>glows like motherfucker
>white point is fucked so everything looks purple no matter what
It honestly looks much worse than my secondary CRT monitor..

>>737110568
You forget
>Last for eternity

>>737110568
I have two Samsung SyncMaster both older than 15 years that work fine and look decent the last time I used them. Sadly I don't have a DVI GPU anymore so I cannot hook them up anymore without adapter.