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What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
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>>737095251
Nothing, still a mediocre glazed slop
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Japs aren't the only asians that can make good games
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>>737095251
Make original games with unique gameplay that isnt copied from other games.
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>>737095251
>Copies
So how many actul non copy product sales is that?
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>>737095303
Let me guess, you actually think Resident Evil Requiem is a good game?
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Movie games and live service are the absolute bottom of the barrel of soullessness.
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>>737095251
now that the month is over we can forget about it
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>>737095303
Koreans have been mogging Japs in the cultural sphere for 15 years straight now
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>>737095348
How do I develop YOUR brand of schizophrenia?
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>>737095251
That devs should actually update their fucking games at a decent speed
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>>737095251
Quantity over quality. Just put as much shit in your game as possible because your average gamer can't recognize if a mechanic is well designed or not. They just think "oh new content" and consume.
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>>737095251
Make fantasy games with proper fantasy aesthetics and attractive White characters
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>>737095251
The western development process has been crippled by DEI
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>>737095365
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>>737095504
>>737095548
why are you posting reddit
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If you love reddit screencaps why dont you stay there?
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>>737095548
>>737095581
They've been real quiet since the patches fixed everything and the game turned out to be a huge success
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That Eastern gamers are even more susceptible to AAA slop than Western gamers are? On the other hand, I have no idea what sold well in the West this past year.
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>>737095275
That k8kebot shills are paid to shit on games that aren't dei nigger woman loving trash, and if the mainstream media pushes a game, you shouldn't trust them, and if they shit on a game, then you should be interested in checking it out for yourself.
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>>737095504
100% correct reddit, thanks for posting it. You may now go back.

>>737095581
>Pretty good
Nah lol
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>>737095640
>thinking this place isn't mostly reddit at this point
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>>737095727
you jest but i can go to twitter and see 4chan posts in there
and the same pajeet bots
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>>737095251
Western devs are lazy
Gamers are too fucking stupid to enjoy good games now
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>>737095787
Of course it is. You post shit takes on Twitter, which Anons screencap and post here, then you repost the posts from the tread on Twitter, to farm engagement and further elevate the need and desire for shit takes on Twitter. And thus the cycle continues forever.
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>>737095251
Attractive white male protagonists are still popular among gamers.
Crazy.
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This 3/10 open world AI generated slop game being pushed so hard is so fuckin suspicious.

Marathon that is actually a really good and fun game which got near universal critical acclaim is getting dogpilled by a paid hate-campaign while this game gets off scot-free.
Very interesting...
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Astroturfed
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>>737095251
Writing doesn't matter because people can't read these days.
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>>737095875
Shill or bait? Probably bait, I doubt bungie has the budget to keep paying shills at this point.
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>>737095998
oh anon you don't have to pay much for indians
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>>737095251
People are literally incapable of following a story if you don't present it through cutscenes and dialogue that repeatedly calls back to plot beats.
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>>737095251
People want more ubislop but less boring an ugly
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>Black Myth Wukong
>Stellar Blade
>Crimson Desert
>Wuchang
So, have the Chinese or Koreans ever actually released anything good or is their playbook eternally astortufing whatever their newest slop is?
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>>737095251
It's halfway decent at a time when western devs are all shitting they're proverbial pants. So it's getting glazed like no other because at least it isn't more live service slop.
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>>737095251
Gameplay is king.
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
There's nothing wrong with ChatGPT generated copies of ubikino like CD and that AI games are accepted.
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>>737095251
>Game gets over without permission
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Writing
Character
Art direction
Coherence

are overrated, avg AAA played is not that much better than 2k and COD gamers
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>>737096156
Is Valhalla fun? Like say I can stomach/mod out the woke shite, is it fun to play a viking in the game?
>t. not played a AC game since 2
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>>737096276
>Writing
>Character
>Art direction
>Coherence

>are overrated
absent in CD*
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?

GAMEPLAY
IS
KING
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>>737095373
>cultural sphere
>Uh kpoop
LMAO
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>>737096320
And it's still successful and beloved
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>>737095251
Geniunely what sets this apart from the average ubislop open world game?
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>>737095251
>troon journos try to shut down non western game again
>get fucked again
lmao
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>>737096294
Play origins or odyssey first
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>>737095251
there is unironically 0 exploring in the game.

you can find generic chests with randomgenerated loot, a generic shiny chest with a reskinned weapon that's worse than your starting sword, or abyss cubes you can farm from bandits, or a shitty puzzle that takes 5 min to do even though you know the solution, which also gives you an abyss cube OR a shiny box with shitty randomgenerated loot OR a reskinned weapon worse than your starting sword
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>>737096361
The puzzles are actual puzzles
All points of interest give you good rewards, unlike in Ubisoft games

Basically anyone calling this game "ubislop" is a casual that doesn't play games or too low IQ for anything but the most surface-level analysis.
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Is this game SM or always on line forced multiplayer slop? Because if it's the former I might actually get it.
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>>737096497
why lie
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>>737095309
>don't
here you dropped this
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>>737096497
>The puzzles are actual puzzles
Ubi games also have these no hint puzzle shrines
and specially abilities you can find
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>>737095251
What can we learn from RE9 success?
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>>737096784
It has almost no competition in the single-player AAA survival horror genre.
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>>737095251
Generic open world locales are good
Using AI assets is good
Adding random gameplay elements that server no real purpose is good
You don't need a compelling narrative
You don't need an interesting protagonist
You don't need fun and fair boss encounters
You don't need a memorable soundtrack or interesting art direction

Just fill up the slop trough with a giant bland open world and sprinkle it with a bunch of tacked on flashy bullshit and todays ADHD zoomers will reward you greatly for the opportunity to consume content
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>>737096784
That sequels, brand recognition and normie-fodder are easy and free money.
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
people are still hungry for slop and always will be
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>>737096898
People on /v/ want to pretend like they consider anything below RE4 and Morrowind to be literally unplayable slop, when in reality even 6/10 games are very much enjoyable despite all the design flaws and bloat
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>>737096357
...by soulless NPCs (majority of the world's population)
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>>737095373
this but unironically
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>>737095251
hold my butterbeer
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>>737097478
She won
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>>737096534
>zero argument

>>737096664
Post 1. The vast majority of rewards in ubisoft POIs are mundane materials for crafting.
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>>737097879
you can find generic chests with randomgenerated loot, a generic shiny chest with a reskinned weapon that's worse than your starting sword, or abyss cubes you can farm from bandits, or a shitty puzzle that takes 5 min to do even though you know the solution, which also gives you an abyss cube OR a shiny box with shitty randomgenerated loot OR a reskinned weapon worse than your starting sword
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>>737098013
>le worse than your starting weapon fag
Not interested in your larp.
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>>737098042
I accept your concession, nigger
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Ok so what the fuck is up with the Dragon mission at fort musket? Like two of the canons are nearly impossible for this slow as shit dragon to dodge, and one of the canons sits at the invisible wall. Trust Pearl Abyss to make flying a dragon feel like shit.
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Open world singleplayer MMO theme parks is the future of gaming and once AI can generate endless radiant quests you can keep playing that completely bland gruel forever.
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Apologize
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>>737095251
>only 5 million in one month which is the average of AAA game
>koreaboo act like it’s 50 million some shit
lol even Slay the Spire 2 sold more than this gookshit
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>>737095251
>>737095251
THIS IS NO SUCCESS
CONCORD 8
IT CONCORD 8
CONCOOORDDDD
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>>737099564
based
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Thanks for beta testing.
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>>737098354
>generic single player mmo but without the input lag
no
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it's so easy to sell slop to gamers
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>>737095251
Normalfag masses like ubisoft style games
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>>737095504
>>737095548
>>737095581
You lost. CD is kino.
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>>737098354
I miss when even mediocre literal who games felt original or at least didn't copy what everyone and their extended family was already copying. Not that it wasn't done at all, but not as much.
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>>737095251
for anyone curious
[dokev news]
>pearl abyss focuses on one project at a time, hence they had to pause development on dokev and focus on crimson desert
>crimson desert's success has given developers confidence in dokev
>development on dokev has already begun, all major developers working on it
>they have taken feedback from crimson desert into account (storytelling, controls, etc)
>the game will have softer tones instead of violence since it is targeted for family and kids as well
>development is much easier now since the development team has experience with blackspace engine
>game could also potentially launch for the switch 2, since many in the development team think the game is suitable for such a platform
>they plan to release some development update within this year, expect news in game events such as gamescom or tga
>game's potential release window is 2028
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>>737098854
why don't you share how much recent western slop has made in a month, gcj troon?
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>>737098354
I wasn't able to bring myself to finish this and now I'm having trouble finishing Crimson Desert as well for largely the same reasons, there's a lack of variety across the hours and in CD's case there's too many cases of unwarranted and purposeful tedium.
I think the only reason why I was able to finish BotW and TotK was because I knew that at any point that I could just finish the game in less than 30 minutes by bumrushing the finale, but if I want to finish CD I have to go through bugged quests, clean dust off of solar panels, do several shitty unresponsive boss fights and remain a forceful participant of a story that I don't care about.
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>>737099657
foxxo sexo
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>>737096091
The Wu games are good
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>>737100818
by the time dokev comes out, its intended audience from when they first revealed it would already be in college
hopefully middle management doesn't screw the dev team around again
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>>737100924
Only way i am able to finish these 100 hour long games
is dropping them at some point
then coming back after few weeks or months
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>>737095251
>This much bragging about measly 5 million
lol
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>>737101063
I'm the intended audience
t. 41 when it comes out
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>>737095373
>Koreans
>cultural sphere
lel
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>>737100924
Yeah game is genuinely too long, made worse by the lack of polish, especially for the main story. Would have been much better if they cut the content down and actually unfucked a lot of things that need unfucking.
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I don't play slop.
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>>737095251
Gamers love sloppa
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>>737095251
More like What can we learn from Palworld success
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>>737101571
That's a basic feature. Hell, instant scene skip is generally expected, but some devs are too lazy to implement it and force you to FF through shit you don't care about or have already seen.
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>>737100867
>why don't you share how much recent western slop has made in a month, gcj troon?
Give me one reason why should i care about westernslop, koreaboo?
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That one anti CD schizo having an absolute meltdown in those threads is always funny to see
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>>737102330
kys mr Lee
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>>737102498 (me)
I'm trans btw, just had a dilation sesh
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>>737095251
Good games sell.
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>>737095251
AI games will be the future and that sucks. A 3/10 half AI generated soulless game coming out and selling 5 million while being lambasted by critics meanwhile a 9.5/10 game which oozes style and had near universal acclaim barely got a million and is failing to retain the players it did get. Just tragic, gamers these days have 0 taste.
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>>737102330
the 3/10 dude? kek
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Korea won
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>>737100924
>3% of players have the steam achievement for finishing the main story
Yeah, you're not alone.
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AI slop game with zero exploration and shit loot. FUCK Indian shills for promoting this game
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>>737095251
>That a triple A game can release in this day and age being stable enough not to crash even once in the span of 80 hours play
>That a game uninitiated in the "game industry" cabal will be slandered and hated by everyone involved in the games industry, if it ever attains enough popularity
>That a game without propagandistic material and an underlying subversive agenda can beat any such game with those elements by miles, despite a generic world, simple morality and jank
>That koreans do the korean thing in all regards, not just with cars; amalgamizes all successful element of other products, shedding the retarded shit, giving you a functional, reliable albeit ugly car.
Not bad lessons
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AI made game. grim.
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>>737103685
I fisted your mum with my AI enhanced arm. Should've seen her face when I pulled out her remaining roe
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>>737103735
Okay gook.
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Maratroon absolutely demolished lmao
Westoid cucks getting put in place by based Gooks again
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>>737103756
Gooks don't understand the art of creative syntax, you mongrel
>>737103775
What a retarded post. Marathon is clearly on your mind a lot, so much so that the cuck might be you
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What can we learn from Crimson Desert?
>Steal RDR2 map
>Steal RDR2 controls
>Steal RDR2 input lag
>Steal RDR2 upgradeable camp
>Steal RDR2 wagon pawning with literally the same animations for selling a wagon
>Steal RDR2 picking up items 1 at a time
>Steal RDR2 opening cupboards animation
>Steal RDR2 hunting and compendium
>Steal BOTW stamina system
>Steal BOTW puzzles
>Steal BOTW/TOTK physics tools
>Steal TOTK sky islands and gliding
>Steal Assassins Creed flood the map with pointless and boring shit to do
And then add your own dog shit story, terrible voice acting, garbage writing, garbage side quests, and boring ass combat
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koreans can't make good RPGs
seriously it's all the same gay shit with them dating back 20-30 years
they always have the most cringe art style and overexaggerated characters and combat
every fucking game is the same shit
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>>737103942
>steal
When other games do this, it's usually called "inspired by" or "copy." No one is disputing that it has very clear and obvious veins of inspiration, but this is hardly anything new and something games have always done, you silly knobhead
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>>737104118
Other games don't rip others off so blatantly. These mechanics are stolen 1 for 1, they are identical to the games they stole from. It's the same with what happened with Genshin Impact. Blatant theft by Asian companies who don't give a shit
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>>737095251
That 'people' think they're people too...
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>>737103629
>zero exploration
Don't tell me I've been exploring in a game with zero exploration!?
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>>737104339
Fraid so
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>>737104173
I really don't care, I can tell by the syntax that you're that same guy that whines the game in every thread
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>>737104339
No you didn't idort
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>>737103942
>Steal RDR2 map
RDR2 invented maps?
>Steal RDR2 controls
Not even going to comment on this one, what did you want? Press X to go walk forward and click R3 to turn left?
>Steal RDR2 input lag
RDR2 inventeed weighty animations?
>Steal RDR2 upgradeable camp
RDR2 invented upgrading your base?
>Steal RDR2 wagon pawning with literally the same animations for selling a wagon
RDR2 invented trade goods? (Spoiler alert, they lifted this directly from BDO, which has had wagon trading for longer than RDR2 has been around.)
>Steal RDR2 picking up items 1 at a time
lol, lmao even
>Steal RDR2 opening cupboards animation
Oh, I see I've been coaxed into a snafu. Well I might as well keep going.
>Steal RDR2 hunting and compendium
Halo invented FPS. Wait, wrong game.
>Steal BOTW stamina system
BOTW invented stamina?
>Steal BOTW puzzles
BOTW invented puzzles?
>Steal BOTW/TOTK physics tools
BOTW invented fucking PHYSICS?
>Steal TOTK sky islands and gliding
Bro... you didn't even mention Skyward Sword!?
>Steal Assassins Creed flood the map with pointless and boring shit to do
Assassins creed invented map markers?
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That a successful AAA game doesn't always have to be a slurper narrative driven game. Crimson desert has basically no coherent story but the gameplay makes up for it tenfold. There's actually shit to do in the world.
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>>737095373
Ok k-pop enjoyer faggot
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>>737096383
>troon journos try to shut down non western game again
>get fucked again

game is also based it appears.
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>>737095251
That hype niggers need the rope
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>>737096980
>people are still hungry for slop and always will be
so why don't they buy woke slop?
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>>737095251
We can learn that making a good game means its going to be good. Making a bad game means its going to be bad.

When a game has:
Actual exploration
Some weird fucking sky puzzles that are impossible to solve without looking at a guide and half of your elemental move set locked behind them but the game not telling you this.
Even more exploration puzzles forcing you to visit various places to solve the initial puzzle.
GOOOOOOOOOD COMBAT
GOOOOOOOOOD GRAFIX
GOOOOOOOOOOD random shit to do farming/housing/ranching/camp management/seperate resoucres for camp management/sending your guys to build bridges/send your guys into wars/send your guys to do renovations for random shit which they do in real time and is kinda cool seeing them work like the slaves they are etc.
When the game has F U N combat which feels FUN.
FUNNY AUSTISTIC STRAIGHT WHITE MC
And when the game IS SO FUCKING HUGE SO FUCKING COOL. You know its going to be good.
Simple as
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>>737104481
>Peak dishonesty
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>>737106013
They did, just not enough
because Ubisoft spent too much after the success of Valhalla
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>>737095251
Release an unfinished mess at full price, patch it later to look like a good boy, get money fuck consumers.
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>>737095251
We can learn that brown shills are very cheap.
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>>737096898
> You don't need fun and fair boss encounters
Uh oh, sounds like lil anon got filtered
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>>737106183
The sky puzzles are easy. No guide needed unless your iq is below 3 digits.
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>>737106346
And today on things that never happened

The game survived the journos and discord troons hate campaign.
You failed, you lost, now accept defeat and leave
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>>737106346
The game was completely finished on launch, but they patched it later to casualize it for the smoothbrains.
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>>737095998
That retard turns up in every crimson desert/marathon thread, make of that what you will.
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>>737097478
Unironically better story and open world than crimson mid
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>be me
>maratrooning
>grooming kids
>browse /v/
>see crimson thread sold 5 millions
>kill self
its that easy
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>>737106574
>Game survived the journos and discord troons hate campaign.

Just shows how impotent the word and reputation of game journos are nowadays.

That's with them being the establishment and backed by jews.
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>>737095251
What success you retard? Want to know what success actually is?
>Pokémon Scarlet & Violet, 28.0+ Million 10 million in 3 days
>The Legend of Zelda: TotK, 22.4+ Million 10 million in 3 days
>Elden Ring 25.0+ Million, 12 million in 18 days
>Monster Hunter Wilds 11.0+ Million, 10 million in 1 month
Palworld 19.0+ Million, 8 million in 6 days
Know your place, smelly gook.
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>>737095275
fpbp and I say this as someone that fell for the shilling. It's soulless attempt at merging Witcher and Dragon's Dogma but it fails at both.
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>>737106575
Kek the game wasn't even playable on intel gpu, controls were dogshit, the ign review was right. Games revisionism is crazy, these days Cyberpunk is considered a great game just because they patched it until it was playable.
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>>737106609
>Crimson keks are still seething about marathon
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
That a game can sell without pandering to browns and AGP mentally ill subhumans who want to play dress up with their bimbo doll.
The white male protagonist should be the gold standard.
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is base ps5 version decently playable?
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>>737104481
>RDR2 invented maps?
The map style and icons are literally the same. They have giant question marks for discoverable stuff, exactly the same as Rockstar
>Not even going to comment on this one, what did you want? Press X to go walk forward and click R3 to turn left?
Yeah man they really had to steal mashing X to run faster, or make your horse run faster, or the exact same input delay for turning around, or holding X to pick up objects the exact same as RDR2
>RDR2 invented weighty animations?
Weird how you'd decide to have weighty animations in an action adventure game, suspiciously while copying various other elements from RDR2. Must be a coincidence that they both control the exact same way
>RDR2 invented trade goods? (Spoiler alert, they lifted this directly from BDO, which has had wagon trading for longer than RDR2 has been around.)
This is a complete lie. I'm talking specifically about selling wagons, not trading with wagons. The process to sell a wagon is identical
>lol, lmao even
why does an action adventure game require you to specifically pick up each individual item one at a time the exact same as RDR2
>Oh, I see I've been coaxed into a snafu
literally no defence for blatant theft
>Steal RDR2 hunting and compendium
>Halo invented FPS. Wait, wrong game.
same again, you have no defence for them ripping mechanics 1 to 1 from another game
>BOTW invented stamina?
No. Crimson Desert's system is identical. They can't put a single spin on it? They have to make it the exact same and slightly tweak the symbol?
>BOTW invented puzzles?
BOTW popularized physics based puzzles in an open world game, but regardless of that some of the puzzles are the exact same. pick up shape with physics gun and place shape in the right hole
>BOTW invented fucking PHYSICS?
BOTW and Half Life 2 don't have the same physics tools, they both operate different. Crimson Deserts operate identically to BOTW but with less variety funnily enough. Maybe they should have stole all of them
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>>737095303
Korean games have always been better than Japslop
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>>737104419
>I really don't care
enjoy playing the same games for the next 50 years then with no creativity like the original games that they're all copying their homework off
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>Mario invented jumping, no one had ever jumped before that point.
>Zelda invented the dungeon, every single game that releases is either copying one or both
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
That open world slop, full of brainless and mundane tasks, still sells well.
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>>737095303
Tell me the last good game came from Japan.
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>>737108723
The problem is that CD is very incestuous while not having its own identity, similar to all Ubisoft games after FC3 and other FOTM games that just take whatever is popular at the moment
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it's literally one of the most slop dogshit games of all time, but go off because it has good graphics I guess, lmao
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>>737095275
The real takeaway is that /v/ is an even bigger echochamber than reddit is now. So many people here plug their ears and scream that games will fail while being completely oblivious to the rest of the market, desperate to think their own tastes are the only ones that matter.

Hilarious what 4chan has become.
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>>737108861
>>737106824

haters flip flop between it selling well and saying it sold like shit because of elden ring. Latest Life is Strange pic unrelated.
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>>737095998
Are you forgetting someone arround here that is doing his job for free?
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>>737095251
That shitty games are gonna sell if they get astroturfed enough
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>>737107649
Performance mode can't hold 60 fps and its just a raw 1080p output. Balanced (40fps) and quality (30fps) work good.
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The game has many elements which are unremarkable if taken in their own right but which in complete combination with all others cohere miraculously and give a whole greater than the sum of the parts. If there’s a lesson then I suppose it’s don’t lose the forest for the trees.
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>>737113289
This is a pretty good summary.
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>>737095251
here's hoping we get more games like this
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>>737114195
Those tiddies are defying the laws of physics.
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>>737100818
How's the cunny?
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>>737095251
i dunno man, palworld sold 5 million in like 3 days. maybe learn from that instead?
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>naira
>demian
>evelyn
>no way to fuck them
koreans why
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>>737095351
It is a great game.

>>737111270
Just this year?

Pragmata
Resident Evil Requiem
Nioh 3
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>>737116531
John Desert is a Christian and won't fornicate outside of marriage.
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>>737095251
Story doesnt matter in games
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>>737095251
>>737095303
Koreans chinese and japanese have been mogging americucks in video games for decades now
Americucks can't create any game at all and only wokecuckshit
Eurochads are the last to compete with asians and Arabs africans and indians can't create game either
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>>737116880
But context matters
same Kill 5 bandit quest is a lot more interesting when it has a good hook
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>>737095251
journos are retards is my take away
down from paid actors cause at this point even paid actors would notice that theyre burning their own boat
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>>737116978
>Eurochads
Name 7 good Euro games in the past 5 years. No niche pixelshit bloat indies.

I can easily name 10 good Japanese games in the past 5 years.

>wokecuckshit
Dustborn, We the Refugees, Echoes of the End, Life is Strange and all its spin offs, Returnal, Horizon, Anal Woke 2, Unknown 9, Senua etc. are all European.
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Where' the 1.4 patch?
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i fucking despise this janky cocksucker sometimes dude holy fuck. just fell off the abyss because my wings didn't want to pop the first 10 times i pressed X, fuck gooks i hope best korea eradicates them off the face of the fucking earth
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>>737095251
Just throw on a bunch of shit and people will like it. See GTA 5 and Skyrim for additional examples.
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>>737113289
Yeah, fucking war arcs where I felt like I was playing medieval fantasy battlefield like the chapter 6 Calphade defense mission to mundane shit like sitting on a wagon and merchantmaxxing delivering goods which sell less in your region but sell more in another region, to bosses, rdr outlaw hunt, to legendary beast hunt to herding cattle to whatever the fuck really.
So it’s funny when people who never played the game are asking what is the game about?
Better question would be what is the game NOT about.
I legit can’t name things it’s NOT about rather than things it’s actually about.
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>>737095251
>lel 5 million in one month
Is this suppose to be impressive?
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>>737122109
quite telling that you had to use one of the most mainstream game series of all time from one of the most well known developers of all time to "btfo" a new ip from literal who devs
friendly reminder you lost and got raped :)
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>>737095251
Marketing thread. Sent.
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>>737122191
>quite telling that you had to use one of the most mainstream game series of all time from one of the most well known developers of all time to "btfo" a new ip from literal who devs
Yeah, literally who are these devs with a game that costs hundreds of millions of dollars and has over 1,000 employees? And what’s wrong with it, since both are AAA games released just a month apart?
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>>737122191
>literal who devs
>Mid size corpo with 1300 wagecucks
>3 times bigger than Fromsoft
heh
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>>737117392
It takes 2
Split fiction
Bg3
KCD2
E33
Helldivers
Dying light the beast
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>>737122540
budget was $130 mil which is not that high for an AAA game especially for one of this scale, and i'm not sure how the games budget changes the fact Pearl Abyss are literal whos with zero name recognition whatsoever. not only that, i'd argue they have NEGATIVE name recognition since they are dismissed as gook mmo devs
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>>737122663
>Subsidiaries: CCP games
pfffffffffffffffffff
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>>737122663
not sure what you think you're trying to prove here but yes, they are literal whos, nobody has ever heard of Pearl Abyss that doesn't play BDO.
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>>737122751
>$130 mil which is not that high for an AAA
Tw3 was made for less than that
And many other euro games had 1/3 of that
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>>737122751
>>737122813
>budget was $130 mil which is not that high for an AAA game especially for one of this scale
And that’s not including the marketing budget or labor costs
>nobody has ever heard of Pearl Abyss that doesn't play BDO
>Top 10 free to play mmo on Steam with millions of account
>nobody has ever heard of Pearl Abyss that doesn't play BDO
lol stop thinking that only whitecucks play video game
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>>737122725
Lame
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>>737095348
it doesn't even say players, it directly says copies sold, you can't cope out of this
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>>737122875
>games cost less a decade ago
riveting information
>>737122936
>And that’s not including the marketing budget or labor costs
are you genuinely fucking retarded or something? the budget was $133 million. you lost and got raped.
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>>737095251
Whoah i'm so scared, no video game has ever sold 5 million before wooowaaagaah
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>>737095998
maybe not bungie, but i doubt ps wants yet another humiliating lose under their belt
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>>737122725
>split fiction
Oh no it's retarded
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>>737123126
how does an individual get through his day being this raped and buckbroken? serious question
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>>737123126
>roll sop SEVEN
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>>737123081
>are you genuinely fucking retarded or something? the budget was $133 million. you lost and got raped.
The budget is estimated to be 133 million, which is the game budget, not include marketing and labour cost
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>>737123247
>which is the game budget, not include marketing and labour cost
....you think a games budget doesn't include it's labor? highest IQ Crimson Desert detractor
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>>737123220
Sorry to burst your bubble but CD is a rollslop (with VFX) too
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>>737123298
>....you think a games budget doesn't include it's labor?
No, marketing and labor are usually counted separately from the game budget
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>>737095251
heh
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>>737123527
>Say something bad about Crimsonslop
>Get sue
Korean...
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there has to be a name for this genre of completely vapid game where the gameplay and story are incredibly bland but THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL BRO THE HORSE'S BALLS SHRINK DUDE AND THE STATUE GETS CARVED OVER TIME DAWG AND YOUR FOOTPRINTS STAY IN THE SNOW FOR A LONG TIME MAN LIKE CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW MUCH TIME WENT INTO THIS
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>>737095251
How many copies did Starfield sell?
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the fags who complain about 'open world fatigue' are just a very loud minority
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>>737123752
buckbroken and raped
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>>737095373
The least deranged k-poop gooner. Here's your (You).
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>>737100960
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>>737123404
where exactly do you think that money goes if it's not for labor, retard? the incinerator?
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>>737122941
>woke cope
KCD2 is a fantastic game

>>737123190
It's a fun game
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>>737124308
>It's a fun game
anyone saying otherwise just has no friends
KCD2 and BG3 are both faggotslop though
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>>737122109
The argument from /v/ and the journosphere shilling for marathon was that it flopped. Why didnt that happen?
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>>737122775
Isn’t CCP games that little Icelandic company that made eve online?
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>>737124427
But they are well made and still fun to play
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>>737124290
Public relations, Event, packaging, digital storefront fees, localization, steam fees, engine development
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>>737123752
Budgetslop.
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>>737124617
that's cool and all, but i dont have homosexual inclinations or a hatred of White people so i'm not the target audience for those games
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>>737124884
Sure thing buld
maybe your can't help yourself but pick the gay romance options instead of all the hot chicks both games have to offer
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>>737124308
>KCD2 is a fantastic game
What's fantastic about it? It has genuinely the most offensively shit combat maybe ever in a high profile game.
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>>737125016
Beautiful visuals
Great music
Very immersive
Good characters and a lot fun quests
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>>737124958
>BG3
>hot chicks
KEK, my sides are in fucking orbit holy shit
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>>737125138
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>>737125149
Everything is objective, think of the landwhales, hamplanets, and dysgenic creatures Reddit normally considers hot and it will make sense.
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Maybe name all these great Japanese games from the last five years instead of coping about great European games
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>>737106585
Oh god no, Hogwarts' world can barely even be called open world.
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>>737125149
Minthara, shadow heart and Orin
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That Japan is no longer relevant.
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>>737125571
absolutely fucking hideous western character design you should be ashamed of yourself for finding that garbage attractive. what a faggot.
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>>737125579
What with your obsession with Japan?
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>>737125640
Post pretty characters or kys
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>737125579
Yeah, Japan is no longer relevant since RE9 is only sold 6 million in a week while CD sold a whole freakibng 5 million in one month keekaroo
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>>737125684
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>>737095303
>third post in
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH JAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!
kek, this sub is really got mindbroke by the nips
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>>737125950
>this sub
>this sub is really got
everyone loves jap games here you shitskin imbecile, learn fucking english.
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>>737125921
Lmao
absolute state of weebfags
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>>737126002
you are a homosexual.
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I still didn't get the actual reason behind why /v/ decided to hate it and want its failure, other than "muh gookslop" or "Non western AAA studio give me the ick"
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>>737126151
can't forget about tendies, anon!
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>>737126082
>Oh fuck, he called out my shitty 3D video game character better resort to 2D art that has nothing to do with any video game.
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>>737125989
Eh, tell that to these people in this thread who are seething about Japan for no reason, lol
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>>737126151
Because shills are obnoxious
>Literally better than ER, tw3 and RDR2!!
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>>737126285
it IS better than Bitcher 3 and RDR2
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>>737126285
I didn't remember anything other than a torrent of hate.
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>>737126321
In your dreams nigga
Gook ubislop is not better than RDR2 or TW3
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>>737126371
you didn't play it you BUCKBROKEN and RAPED retard, you lost
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>>737116784
What the fuck? People told me NPCs don't have any special schedules or anything.
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>>737126497
>You didn't play latest version of ubislop kill bandits game
>you lost
lel
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>>737096563
Name ten (10) games I can play with the scope of Crimson Desert.
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>>737123732
>youtuber sued for openly advertising a service that infringes on company sales
Can you not read?
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>>737126651
i look forward to your continued seething every single day, buckbroken and raped faggot
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40 hours in, and honestly, I think the game is just average, 7/10 at best. It sort of feels like modded Skyrim, where you boost up, ragdoll some mobs, walking around for 15 minutes then exit
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>>737126673
All the modern open world games are 80 hours long
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>>737126573
I know for a fact that NPCs you have to hunt for bounties have schedules. The quest marker will take you to one part of the map but they might not be there at that time of the day, and instead halfway across the area in their house or walking the streets.
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>>737101753
>can only post ER
GTA V
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>>737126756
>I am not raped you are raped
sure thing bud
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>>737126802
Crimson desert is probably 200 hours longs. I have 72 hours and I'm still in chapter 1.
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>>737095373
Lol. Lmao even
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>>737126802
>all of them
Name ten (10) games I can play with the scope of Crimson Desert.
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>>737126914
correct, i am posting in a thread about a game i am having fun playing. you are seething in a thread about a game you can't play, likely due to being a tendie.
you LOST and got RAPED AND GAPED
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>>737126921
40 hours in and i'm already at chapter 7 >>737126785 and most of the time i'm just walking around the map and ragdolling bandit, what the fuck are you even doing?
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Crimson Desert will forever be hated because it's anti-semitic. It doesn't matter how good the game is, jews will always deny it because they feel threatened by it.
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That opne world slop sells because the consumers see a big thing filled with many things and cums at the thought of consuming it all.
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>>737126971
>I am having le fun, i am not raped
Sure, that's why are you melting down
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>>737127135
>melting down
LOL, i assure you DesertGODS are laughing at your faggot ass wholeheartedly
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>>737126921
Stop lying bitch, you need to clear Chapter 1 to unlock most of the basic abilities
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>>737127172
you are seething >>737126497
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>>737095448
That's one of the biggest things for me. They've been so damned timely with all of these changes and fixes. The only change left that I'm wanting is a way to undo gear refinement.
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>>737127220
calmly stating an objective fact of the reality we live in is seething now?
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>>737127348
But you are seething
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they finally fixed the infinite loading screen glitch when in the abyss, so maybe in about 2 years itll be feature complete, sure glad i paid full price day 1 for this unfinished trash
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The main quest with some extras is no longer than 40 hours and still barely anyone has completed the story.
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>>737116784
>Christian reference

no wonder jew IGN and Kotaku are so buckbroken over this game.
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>>737116978
There was a time when American games reigned supreme, back when American devs made games for PC as their primary platform and dev teams were made up of smaller teams of maybe 10-20 dudes it was the golden age of American gaming.
Ever since America decided it wanted to be a console powerhouse, American gaming has gone to shit.
A pox on Microsoft for pushing that Xbox dogshit and ruining American video games for decades to come.
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love the gaem
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>>737127683
if thinking that helps soothes your gaping, ravaged anus, then i'm happy to oblige.
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>>737128096
Calm down nigga
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>>737126275
NTA but they're obviously baiting and false flagging. Trying to divert the shitposting to Korea vs Japan schizophrenia.

It's a solid tactic because it puts koreans on the defensive and it rallies the mutts into larping as nettouyos.
The guy spamming RE9 sales is doing it for a solid month now lol
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/gook%2A%20resident/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/gook%2A%20leon/

He's likely the guy posting both the bait and the retort. Also some westacucks unironically wewuz stuff like Resident Evil or generally thing westaslop is in the same league as Japanese games. But this was never and will never be the case. Westacuck slop is shit and it's just getting worse. Japanese games are the best and other Asian games will also be worthwhile so long as they follow Japanese trailblazers. Simple as.
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>>737130126
AAA Western gaming can’t crash and burn fast enough. AA and indie have had some bangers that mostly go under the radar.
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>>737095251
We can learn that if you release slop, people will still buy it as long as you're not Ubisoft.
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>>737130126
based. no brother wars between asia game kinos.
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>>737095251
Shilling works. I have to commend the Koreans for spamming 4chan, reddit, twitter, youtube, and twitch for an entire month straight pretending their game is good.
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>>737131362
It is suspicious how now that the spam has stopped the game has dropped below 100k players.
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>>737130279
>AAA Western gaming can’t crash and burn fast enough.
Keep dreaming
Western industry is alive and well
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>>737127017
having fun unlike you, faggot
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>>737131436
Shills are gone now it's just culture war retards trying to own the western
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>>737095251
I didn't realize it was so successful, it's like waking up and finding out the Roblox is 80% of the gaming industry
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>>737131473
Kek, how many faggots from game companies have been laid off in the past decade you dumb nigger.
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Witcher 3 is better tbqh.
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>>737131741
Forget the last decade, the western industry has seen more layoffs and studio closures since COVID than it did in the previous 20 years combined.
This is even more dire than the GFC was.
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
That you don't need to try hard to make a successful game? Many such cases.
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>>737131796
you gotta be pretty gay to value story more than puzzles and better gameplay and better exploration
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>>737131741
And how many small studios emerged from all around Europe
Some companies are too big but other ones are doing alright
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>>737132093
You nigga act like there's aren't any puzzle games with actually good puzzles
Also Stories are enjoyable
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>>737132040
Seems pretty simple right? Don’t flood your game with the following:
Niggers
Gay niggers
Lesbian niggers
Handicapped lesbian niggers
Faggots
Dysgenic trannys
Not sure how hard this is to understand
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>>737132101
>And how many small studios emerged from all around Europe
Not many.
In fact, a few just recently shit the bed after Nacon declared insolvency, like the devs of the Styx games.
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>>737132196
Name 17 games with 7 of each
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>>737095448
Outpost Infinity Siege did that, it didn't save the game though. Although to be fair, they fucked themselves over with a pretty dogshit early-game.

OIS got really good at the mid to end-game, but you had to be into the various genres to want to persevere to begin with. Shame.
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>>737132378
Sorry dumb nigger, talking about a fun and enjoyable game like Crimson Desert. And not retarded handicapped lesbian nigger simulators faggot.
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>>737132040
lose weight, tendie
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>>737099691
but enough about crimson desert
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>>737132371
A gooner number of them just made it big and let's not pretend like jap studios aren't shutting down every 6 months
But nobody talks about them
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>>737132619
>Made up woke game
Lol
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>>737132901
>A gooner number of them just made it big
Did they?
The only new Euro studios I can think of that made it big are Warhorse and Sandfall.
Most of the "big" "new" European studios are actually studios who've been around for almost 30 years but spent most of their lives languishing in irrelevance.
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>>737096294
Valhalla is like 70 hours too long, you will be utterly bored of the copypaste by the 10 hour mark
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>>737133002
Game breakers had another hit
Look at arrowhead
Now larian is one of the biggest name in the industry
Cdpr is on same level as R* but not entirely
Also
Those guys making all the great co op games
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>>737133323
All of those devs are ones that have been around for nearly 30 years except Arrowhead and The Game Bakers, who are almost 20 years old.
To give you an idea, almost all of those devs are older than Pearl Abyss, except The Game Bakers, who are the same age.
NEW Euro devs making anything worth a damn are few and far between these days.
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>>737133643
Forgot to mention saber and few other companies that make of mid size games that do very well are all based in Europe also
I think they are on the right path compared to amrican studios that are actually crashing bunring due to all bloat and heigh expectations
BF6 is not a massive success despite selling 10 million copies
It's insane
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>>737133829
I'm going to assume you're being facetious.
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>>737095487
I don't think that i can get past the 10 hour mark in this game and i got through Ubisoft slop....Quests work or don't work, my cpu fan is screaming while the game is vaseline smeared all over my monitor even if the game uses like 4 GB of Vram. I got some powers that i don't even use..its somehow apparent that they made some interactions for youtubers to clipbait and then forgot to actually use them for more stuff. The claw was forgettable until a friend told me i can launch myself, i found it endearing so started using it on other things and it doesn't work to pull stuff, you get only specific actions on it. Go find abilities or use cubes to unlock them but you actually can't because you actually do need to see it first. Its the most confused game of all time and i have no idea why people are praising it, i think its a contrarian thing.
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>>737131473
lmao your 2 clout AAAA money makers got sold into slavery to Saudis and Tencent
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>>737098354
At least Reckoning has fun weapons. I loved using the chakrams in that game. here you have sword, spear, axe...the usual suspects.
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>>737134130
That's the rdr2 problem of having a lot of things that don't really amount of anything unless you go out of your way to do. It
But because rdr2 is more grounded it feels less egregious
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>>737132196
Also was a strong selling point for many, true.
Overcorrection has lead to a very significant counter-culture. Rightfully so. It could feel like games are being invaded. I'm not anti-woke (or for it, much), but I get your point.
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>>737132712
I am not... American?
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>>737134605
we know, thirdoid.
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>>737134287
A significant amount of the current western market is propped up by Chinese money.
Lots of American and European "indie" devs are owned by Tencent and Netease.
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>>737134656
Tencent literally owns some part of every single company
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>>737134521
I just want to have fun playing vidya anon, and get away from real life. Hate it when they try to shoehorn in propaganda into vidya.
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>>737134646
I'm white and from a first world country. Just not American.
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>>737135991
America is the only relevant county on earth and your taste in video games is dogshit, tendie. Crimson Desert raped and buckbroke you LMAO
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>>737135991
1st World: United States of America.
2nd World: Russia.
3rd World: Everything Else. Especially Mexico and everything south of it.

Thus, you're a turdworlder.
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>>737134852
>Hate it when they try to shoehorn in propaganda into vidya
As I said, you feel vidya is invaded by propoganda. I get you. It's overcorrection to blame.
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>>737127753
Because there's pretty much no point to completing the story and playing the rest of it (the vast majority of the game) is more fun
t. completed the story
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>>737136971
The story unlocks quests, puzzles, mechanics and many other forms of content such as a flying mount. If you want to do the side content it is best to first do the main story.
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>>737134656
bg3 schizo, you already tried this with silksong
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>>737095487
open world shit really was the nail in the coffin for the industry as a whole
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>>737136164
>America is the only relevant county on earth
Lol. Lmao.
>your taste in video games is dogshit
I just have heard some good critic of the game, is all.
>>737136208
The term "First World" originally described nations allied with the United States and NATO during the Cold War. Today, it typically refers to highly developed, industrialized countries with high GDPs, stable democracies, and advanced infrastructure.
By this definition I live in a first-world country. But sure, your American view could be seen as plausible in some other dimension.
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>>737137742
Playing the main story yes, completing it, no.
If you play up to chapter 5 then you have access to almost all mechanics, and much of the world is open. Demeniss and Pailune are the exception. Hernand is the most dense part of the map so you can fuck around at this stage for a very long time. Most players that got past the intro are still in this stage, since only 18% have the "complete chapter 7" cheevo on steam while "complete the first chapter" is at 77%.

Beyond that, there's pretty much no reason to play past chapter 9. Once you get Damiane back and free Demeniss basically the whole world is open and you have access to all mechanics. The main thing you're missing is the dragon who, frankly, is a huge disappointment.

Let me put it this way, I have over 180 hours in the game. I did not finish the story until yesterday. In the process I played all of chapter 10, 11, and 12 in one day. The last stretch centered around Musket is just not that important.
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>>737138183
>I just have fallen for western game journalist tranny and tendie psyops
genuinely embarrassing to post this shit. you LOST AND GOT RAPED AND BUCKBROKEN by Crimson fucking Desert lmao!
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>>737138320
>I just have fallen for western game journalist tranny and tendie psyops
I've heard, for example that the game is full of slop side-content on a level of a nu-AC game, the story is half-assed, and that the control scheme is convoluted. What have you got to say to that? Also while not ugly per se, it does not look good to me.
>you LOST AND GOT RAPED AND BUCKBROKEN by Crimson fucking Desert lmao
I don't think there's anything to win or lose here. You might be precharged from other online convos, but we're all gamers here and want what's best for gaming. No?
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>>737095251
We learned that 4Kgawds won.
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>>737139084
>nu-AC game
stopped reading there, are you STILL posting this dumb shit in every thread?
holy shit you are one of the most buckbroken and raped faggots i've ever seen
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>>737095373
Korea has no discernible culture and is full of narcissists and psychos just like the U.S
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>>737139196
>tailors are always knockout babes wearing fashionable outfits
>check what they're actually selling
>dirty peasant hat, dunce cap, used napkin
>gift them 20 sacks of coins, buy the supply contract, it's dogshit
i love this game
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>>737095251
>greymane
I'm battleborn
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>>737095251
that people will readily accept a buggy and badly designed ubisoft game just as long as it has a white cast
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>>737139312
Marry tailor babes
Roundhouse kiss tailor babes
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>>737139409
bootlicking dog of the dead empire
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>>737139457
There actually are non-white people, you just have to travel to the ass end of nowhere until you reach Narnia, and there's Sarranid looking dudes named Umar and veiled women with names like Fatima
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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
Stop trusting eceleb and journos. Make your own fucking mind up by watching some literal nobody's gameplay and not just 5 seconds of it.
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>>737139457
you lost and got fucking raped why are you still running your cocksuckers in every thread like a buckbroken fat retard?
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>>737126573
They do since day 1. People you face in gambling mini games are different and some back as in addicts,guards change and then during certain hours same ones come back to their posts and more. I dont give a fuck about shit like that and even I remembered that stuff. I even saw two NPCs being at random campfire once,then they werent there and after hours of playtime one of NPCs came back but with different NPC to same campfire. I dont get why thats such a big thing for some people though this is retarded why would you care about this.
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>>737126573
Even animals have schedules. I was grinding wolves for small bones and noticed the packs move spots at certain times, their spawn location changes by time of day, and sometimes they sit down and rest.
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>>737139267
What? What did I say?
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>>737140037
you are embarrassing yourself.
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>>737140102
Dude. There's clearly a cutoff point between old AC games and nu-AC. Also the rest of my points stand. You're so overcharged from past convos with mean anons that you can't have a good faithed arguement.
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>>737139084
>its the bamham veilguard assassins creed dude
Im lurking this shithole for 15 years now and im still in ave about turbo autism of some negroes here sometimes. Its been full month and you have been posting same buttblasted shit in every single thread about this game, like what the actual fuck negro lmao.
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>>737140256
there is no argument to be had. DesertGODS unequivocally won. anyone shitting on this great game lost and got raped and brutally fucking eviscerated and gaped and that's all there is to it.
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>>737139770
>People you face in gambling mini games are different and some back as in addicts,
they also take smoke breaks lol
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>>737111537
It's a few dedicated shitposters or mentally ill people. One of them spammed "corean" in every crimson desert thread for weeks.
Search the word on the archive for a laugh.
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There was a short period after the server issues where the maratroons and nintendo shartyfags weren't around, I guess we're back to being brigaded by discord crews again lol

I think I found a secret? I haven't been able to get past this rock but it reacts to the drill and force punch
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I wish Damiane was my mom
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>>737140391
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yeah its a mid slop that had ~70% positive even with massive chink shilling and brigading steam reviews
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>>737144154
you lost and got fucking raped. keep squealing in every thread, piggy.
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yes...escorting
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>>737095373
>JAVs > KPop
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>>737122109
>one of the biggest ip in vidya games vs unknown newcomer
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>>737101218
I've been alternating my game time between this and Crystal Project, now that Crystal is available on consoles. They both have a focus on exploration, but they play pretty damned differently to one another.
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>>737134480
Even the more basic weapons felt very fun to use in Amalur. I went with the Fae blades and the chakrams the last time I played through it, but my first time through I used a more traditional set of weapons.
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>>737147287
i've been sprinkling in some Chrono Ark here and there and started RE9 once the voices38 crack came out but i still play CD 95% of my vidya time after 145 hours
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>>737147287
you inspired me to finally try this out, i've been meaning to but i didn't realize there was a demo
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>>737095251
gameplay >>> world > characters >> story
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>>737148036
On the flip side, had the characters and story been good and the greymane camp quests less tedious the game probably would have hit 8-10 million already.
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>>737095251
That sheer amount of content and mechanics can sometimes make up for an otherwise incoherent gameplay.
It's both addictive and frustrating, I love it but sometimes I want to punch the screen.
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>>737125950
>this sub
Kill yourself
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>>737148220
nta but i agree, the game is already good, but it would have been so much better if the world felt "alive" not even with comprehensive dialogue for every npc but but enough to fill pywell with a bit more meaning that what it does now, such a missed opportunity, it's obvious they had NO confidence in their own writers, none, and i totally understand the risk of getting someone from the west given their track record, but damn the world feels so braindead
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>>737147987
The demo is what really sold me on it. I had seen it posted here before and it caught my interest, but for some reason I can't game on a PC.

I'm not all that far in it, just made it to the first big city area after finding some crystals. It's definitely a lot of fun and the combination of exploration and party building has me hooked.

In CD news, I just wrapped up the Damiane chapter. Her R2 lightning attack trivialized the hell out of the boss at the end.
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>>737150453
yeah i just bought it after playing the demo for less than an hour, i can already tell this shit is kino
going to try to kill this faggot Beloth now in CD though
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>>737095251
That too many people have no good taste.
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>>737095251
That gays, trannies and women are irrelevant and have no influence on whether a game will be good or not.
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>>737150869
Good luck with that cocksucker. I blew through a whole bunch of pills against him. I'm not looking forward to fighting the other overwhelming beings, so I'll put that off until I get some more of my gear refined. I swapped over to Beloth's gear since I was already wearing two pieces of it, so at least I don't look like a damned clown anymore.
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>>737095251
Never pander to the wokies. Love the game you're making. Listen to player feedback. Play to your strengths. Don't be afraid of titties, ass and beauty. FUN IS KING FUCK "BALANCE". Respect your player's time.
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>>737152025
>Respect your player's time.
i like this game but it does not reapect my time at all, it took hours before it was fun, and dozens of hours before you got the barber, lots of meaningless grindy mmo type shit in this game too
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>>737153547
if i have fun the entire time i'm playing then it respects my time, simple as

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