>>737105350
Your job raped them.

>>737105350
Arc Niggers stil seething lol

>>737105489
Both games suck. Both games have a polarized user base consisting of people that just want to play PvE and people that just want to do PvP. This whole genre is a shitty one that will likely die unless someone comes along and finds a solution to this issue. Better idea, scrap it and remove online capabilities from all consoles going forward. The ability to connect to the internet ruined gaming. Try and dispute it.

>>737105350
Marathon threads are boring since they stopped paying shills for replying.

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>>737105350
you lost

>>737105892
Git gud

>>737105350
You're still shilling this?

>>737106037
See, you can't dispute it. My point exactly.

>>737106213
They expected another highguard and got btfo

>>737105350
I don't envy Halobros. Between Bungie and 343 you guys have been cucked and fucked so hard across the ages.

>>737106213
>>737106269

a game living longer than 2 months is not the success you think it is, 7k - 20k players and declining is not something to be proud

>>737106375
Yea, it sucks mate. I've fallen out of love with Halo and just don't care anymore. Personally, I want the IP to die so it's legacy is tainted no more.

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>>737106213
Yeah, those 7k players must be really engaged right now.

>>737106213
Did better than Concord and Highguard award.

>>737106442
>game will be dead after a week
>game will be dead after two weeks
>game will be dead after three weeks
>game will be dead after a month
>a game living longer than 2 months is not the success you think it is

>>737106614
jannies owned your other post troon.

>>737106614
>game is dead after a week
>game is still dead after two weeks
>game is still dead after three weeks
>game is still dead after a month
>a dead game being propped up longer than 2 months is not the success you think it is

You are a necrophiliac.

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>>737106678
nope, that wasn't my post. chuds getting desperate

>>737106760
>F12

>>737106805
chuds getting desperate

>>737106827
Post a video of you refreshing you screen if you're not lying.

>>737105350
i refunded it in an hour, its the ugliest motherucking game i have ever seen.
what the fuck was bungie thinking with this?
>100% of all the animations are just copy pasted from destiny 2
it took ZERO EFFORT to make this trash game, and yet it cost a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS TO MAKE.

>>737107062
>upset destiny player

>>737107117
not only that, im upset bungie demands 40$ for an asset flip game you could make in a few hours, because all the textures are missing.

>>737107062
That quarter billion was spent paying assets

>>737107062
That's because that studio lost all their talent, so all they can do is copy paste gameplay and assets from destiny.

none of the assets are from destiny

>>737107317
literally everything in marathon is copy pasted from destiny 2.
>the grenade throw animations
>the reloading
>the jumping
>the vaulting

the NPC with a shield?
yeahhhhh......thats the Red Legion guy from Destiny 2.
>even the critical hit spot is in the same place
LMAO

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>>737106442
Maybe next time, kiddo

>>737107317
>the grenade throw animations
>the reloading
>the jumping
>the vaulting
this shit looks the same in all games

I'm so glad this garbage flopped. Bungie cultists aren't human and deserve to be put on display as public laughingstocks

>>737107317
brother its the same fucking game

>>737107527
if it was the same game all these destiny fags would be happy

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>chuds had to beg jannies to delete all the posts that raped and embarrassed them
Lol don't worry anons, I saved the image

>>737107519
I'm glad there are games around that disabuse people of their cultish notions- though it does seem there are still a few hard masochists who like it when bungle shits in their mouth.

>>737107501
nope, it doesnt.
bungie took zero effort on marathon.
>the npc enemies are just Red Legion from destiny 2 but with bright faggot colours now
pathetic.

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>>737105350
>major update made them LOSE players
what's this business strategy called?

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>>737107762

They literally lost more players from Destiny 2 making this shit than they gained. When you keep that in mind it's on par with Concord imo. At least Concord didn't have a NEGATIVE player count.

>>737108186
D2 has around 10k more players across all consoles daily, and that number is getting bigger. People would rather play a raped corpse than their new product, which is saying something

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>>737105489
You are completely mindbroken

i was raped by bungie

>>737105350
I wonder if they are keeping it around so they can "fix" it with a 2.0.

I feel like shooters should take a break and everyone should just go back to whatever previous shooter they found fun. But alas consume new thing.

>>737105489
Arc Raiders didn't censor the name marathon in their chat

>hire pro extraction shooter players
>they give feedback
>ignore it all
>game fails
Wow what a waste of money!

>>737105350
Yup, dead any day now, mm hm, our supreme thought leader asmongold said so, yuh hm, he’s never failed us.

>>737109405
Are you saying marathon was a success?

>>737107791
apparently it's "winning" and owning the chuds.

>>737109430
>>737109486
see >>737106614

>>737109552
Wait why did you reply to the thread again as if you're a new person?

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>>737109596
desperate as always

>Bungie can only afford to pay a single shill to spam here
Lmao they're done

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sigma zoomers and the woke chuds having their daily cope session

>>737110053
>tfw almost got all trophies
>missing VIP and LVL 100 one
>currently level 45
Marathoners in the house tonight… I… dont think im gonna make it.

>>737110218
None of you are gonna make it

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>>737105350
Just can't stop thinking about that game, huh?

>>737110053
What do you do in your life that allows you to play that much?

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Gay Destiny - > Zestiny

>>737105892
not really, one has 90k~ people playing it 6 months after release and the other is on 25k~ in only 1 and a half month, now guess which one has the bloated AAA budget

>>737110259
I don't play, I keep games running while I'm at work to epically troll /v/ with the screenshots

>>737107609
destiny drones arent even happy with destiny though? they hate it because its the same pile of shit

>>737106614
>a game living longer than 2 months is not the success you think it is
Wdym by this? Suicide Squad dead after nine month. Is this successful game?

>>737110417
Yea, I'm not some fag that compares player numbers all day. Both games suck ass. I played them both, didn't like either of them.

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Bungie has been raped. All that awaits them now is shutting down Marathon or putting it in maintenance mode. Marasissies thought they were safe because Marathon didn't go down like the hindenburgs that were Concord and Highguard... little did they know they are on the Titanic and its already capsizing. Marasissies will continue to deny reality even while they drown. The game's fate is sealed, accept the end is coming and embrace the DOOM.

>>737108335
Its dying

>>737109552
apart from anonymous internet shitposts is there anyone with skin in the game for getting it wrong saying it's a financial success on it's $200m+ budget?

>>737111640
What is even going on in Destiny now that the Darkness is defeated?
I thought that was the whole plot

>>737111850
Who cares? They haven't added a new enemy race since before COVID anyway. The plot is probably some ai generated shit as usual, a sideshow villain from 3-4 years ago, and killing the same fallen/cabal/whatever that you always are.

>>737105350
>Concord-like

>>737111897
>They haven't added a new enemy race since before COVID anyway
Honestly its quite crazy, making a new faction can't be that expensive

>>737112030
Destiny's been on maintenance mode for a good long while. Fans would shit on you for pointing it out but they recycled shit 24/7 it was ridiculous.

>>737107062
The quarter billion was spent paying indians to steal assets

>>737112153
No kidding, but really I find these live service games with a main story fascinating because writers will end up running out of ideas eventually, you can see it with WoW, Destiny is just the latest title with that
GW2 also makes me curious in that regard, evil dragons all died a while ago, but apparently its still chugging along

It's a cool game but it's just too intense for the average person, I can't even play several nights in a row there's a mental barrier to loading in that I can only equate to VR. Like I know I'll probably have a good time but I just don't want to put on the headset right now

5k low incoming next week

>>737111784
no, and no one has suggested that. the game needs a lot of work to become viable long term. that said, people have been calling this game dead for months now, and they've been proven wrong. hunt showdown for example spent over two years with under 10k ccu.

>>737112889
holy fucking cope hunt showdown didn't receive this kind of marketing

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>>737111850
Destiny is tired and has run its course, no matter how much Destinyfags want it to return. Even a Destiny 3 will have to be its own new thing and Bungie cares more abot Marathon and whatever the other bigger project is than getting Destiny 3 out any time soon.
Bungie wanted to make PVP content for a whole decade after Halo and Destiny never worked well with that, that's why there's a lot more passion in Marathon than the last 5 years of Destiny 2 content

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AYO

>>737106375
>I feel bad about shiteaters, since shit all you'rve been given to eat is shit
?

>>737113907
>a lot more passion in Marathon than the last 5 years of Destiny 2 content
>passion
>when Marathon is mostly recycled and reused Destiny stuff
lol

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>click /v/ catalog
>see a maratroon thread
>think haha I'll check steamdb again and see its playercount drop a little more
I do this every single day haha, I've looked at the steamdb page so many times when I type "s" in my search bar it's the first thing that pops up lol

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>>737114419

>>737114358
That's the joke.

>>737114358
He's got a point they passionately stole art and had to create flat textures for the few new assets.

Real talk, does anybody here actually believe this game will be shutdown imminently with D3 still on the horizon? How will Sony even sell people on yet another GaaS of they do?
>hey guys, i know we shut down Concord and Marathon, and also cancel a bunch of other GaaS, most notably TLOU Faction… yeah… shame about that one, but please trust us with another one LMAO D3 GET HYPED

You mf cannot be this stupid.

>>737114645
I said from the start that they’d give the game at least six months which would be about two seasons. Season 2 is all we have info about with it’s singular “new” map.

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>>737105350
>maybe we're too hard on Marathon, have any of us even given it a fair shake?
>well you know what they say, more than two shakes and you're playing with it
>at least someone would be!

>>737114645
D3 isn't happening
even if it does, people will be wary of bungie
everyone is tired of their jewish tricks

>>737114645
They'll do what they did with D2 and downsize development to where it makes money. That or it will be put on maintenance mode with very little other than maybe regular wipes and just coast like Anthem until its not worth upkeeing the servers anymore. I don't think Marathon will shutdown unless Bungie gets completely obliterated by Sony. Layoffs and restructuring is likely with a focus shift back on Destiny. I have a feeling that depending on the peformance of the next update for Destiny 2 will determine if they even do a Destiny 3. Though more likely Destiny 2 would just continue getting updates instead since I doubt Sony will be willing to drop hundreds of millions more on Bungie to develop another game that might not break even like Marathon.

>>737114645
I don't think Destiny 3 would be a success, and more to the point I don't think Bungie has the time or the money to make it.

>>737105350
>"9/10" that barely anyone wants to play
>5-6/10 user reviews
Why does this keep happening?

>>737113394
that's irrelevant, big companies spend big on marketing, smaller companies don't

>>737114927
Yes but Marathon already came and went from the mainstream consciousness, so there isn't going to be a second wind resurgence where it goes viral you fucking weasel

>>737111850
destiny is dead and almost abandoned
still, destinyfags are gonna paypiggy the shit out of destiny 3, so it's just a matter of time before sony forces bungie to do it

>>737114645
>D3 still on the horizon
source?
knowing Bungie, Destiny 3 is probably not even in preproduction

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>>737114814
Ba-dumph!

>>737114993
>Yes but Marathon already came and went from the mainstream consciousness
More twitch viewers than Crimson Desert and Requiem lol

>>737115241
*Checks* why are you literally lying?

>>737105350
sorry i cant play more
i work 10 hour shifts and come home to a 1 year old
i can barely game anymore

So are you marathon fags having fun with this piece of shit ?

>>737115542
yes

>>737112030
Considering the Scorn just reused Fallen skeletons and animations yeah

>>737114993
>Yes but Marathon already came and went from the mainstream consciousness
if it came and went it would already be dead, and it's not
>so there isn't going to be a second wind resurgence where it goes viral
it doesn't need to go "viral" to slowly gain numbers like hunt did
>you fucking weasel
we don't have weasels here in australia. why do you hate them?

Friend of mine who's a destinyfag bought the game immediatly and hyped it to us as the revival of Bungie. Then he barely put 3 hours into it and forgot about it all together.

>>737116654
He had a blast

>>737115241
>Twitch viewers
What about metrics that actually matter like sales and player numbers

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End Bungie.

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>>737114645
I don't really care about speculation, I just want Marathon to survive and get updates.

>>737117645
I'm sorry for your loss.

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How do we save Bungie from themselves?

Wonder how long it will take this time for mods to delete the thread?

>>737118162
they've deleted posts in here already, I guess it depends on what the OP is

>>737105892
Wait for Godzaki to release duskbloods.

It will be so fucking funny when duskbloods outsells marathon and arc combines on the fucking Brick 2.

>>737118102
why are they all aiming at the nigger

Just a reminder for all the 'dead game' folks, the original talking point was that it was 'dead on arrival'

then dead in week 1

then dead in week 2

then dead in week 3

then dead in week 4

then dead in month 2

There's people in this thread now talking about sony investor calls and shit because beleive it or not this was never another concord situation and they are having to rely on speculation about what a hypothetical sony investor might think at this stage.

Not to mention, if player numbers get so dire, it will likely go free to play and linger on for ages.

>>737118274
Quit being shitlord spammers then. You gotta get creative with your b8. All this:
>Blast this
>Lightning in the bottle that
>here look at the steam charts LOL
>OHHH RETURN TO FORM

its weak shit, and unbecoming of this place. We are fucking 4channelers god dammit. Act like it.

is it free? ill download it if it is and give it a go

>>737119114
I will blast lightning out my ass into a bottle to return steam charts to form

>>737119073
I don't think anyone expected it to crash as fast as Concord or Highguard, but it's headed towards the chopping block at this rate and seems like a complete failure based on the expectations. Guess it depends what you consider dead, but a AAA live service game just lingering is as good as being dead

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>>737119264
>but it's headed towards the chopping block at this rate
These games grow overtime and peak much later than release

>>737119223
its a free $40

>>737119356
Bro get off the copium

>>737119356
>constantly trends down from the beginning, bleeding players
>"just give it time bro it will grow"

>>737119356
Speaking of which, whats going on with Hunt. Did they finally add a solo only queue? I cant imagine the game spiking like that for anything else.

>>737119562
Humble plus sale

>>737119073
I don't know why you shills think pushing this '/v/ said it would flop within 24 hours, but it didn't, so the game didn't flop' angle does anything except draw attention to how badly the game is doing.

/v/ predicted a flop, which occurred, and how long Marathon gets to stay online is Sony's decision since it's their money (being wasted).

>it will go F2P
Lil bro, when it was F2P in the playtest they did, they couldn't even get 150k and half of those people left the next day.

>>737119562
Ironically enough, much of the recent interest and growth in Hunt is because of Marathon coming out and flopping.

>>737119114
nah making fun of the lowest bidder jeet shills unironically spamming these canned phrases in a vain attempt to advertise sloppa continues being funny. whoever hires them is getting scammed

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tehehe

>/vg/ asshurt avatar faggot makes these threads every single day for weeks

Every day. And there’ll be a reply like, “oh well Marathon dying every day” or something.

>>737105350
Raped
gaped
and unable to escaped

>>737120431
He's having more fun than the "people" playing this game

>hehe look at me hating on this game, do I fit in with you guys now?

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>>737105350
Let’s be serious, how can we save Marathon?

>>737121112
>tranny flag faggot shilling for a multi billion dollar company and sending them kind letters
lmaooo what the fuck

>>737105350
Boring game

>>737121112
The game can't be saved without spending a year (at least) to reboot it into something that both PVE and PVP players can engage with on their terms. (Turning it into Destiny/Arc, in other words.)

But Bungie seems intent on dying on the 3v3 PVP hill, so let them.

>>737121112
Send Bungie more kind emails :)

>>737119073
get em, sis

>>737121112
bungietrannies are the most raped

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Fent reactors shutting down... I... can't.... breathe....

>>737121112
>layoffs
>constant stress about playercounts dropping daily
>Sony breathing down their necks looking for any excuse to dissolve the studio
>some ResetEra random sends a "kindly worded email"
>Hey I hope you feel better :):):)
>I really like yur gaem :):):)
whew that fixed everything

>>737121362
>Le pve
Eat shit and die

>>737122064
>Eat shit and die
Marathon is busy doing that, because they spent a quarter of a billion making a PVP game, lel

>>737119114
Game doesn't deserve my best effort. I'm just sitting here, watching the game die, and that's enough for me.

>>737120431
It's a AAAA release and the centerpiece of Sony's live service push this console cycle. You gonna bot the report button to get this deleted too?

>>737114814
lmao

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>>737110247
well, statistically 41% of them aren't

>>737124584
I wonder if it will even hit 30k this weekend.

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>>737122064
>Gray Zone Warfare a literal who extraction shooter adds PvE mode
>It gets more players than maraflop
You marakeks are truly raped and constantly seethe over PvEchads.

>>737114645
The Marathon dev team will at the very least be downsized, from there they'll hard pivot to casual-only content. If it's still not seeing results in a year's time, they'll kill it.

To be clear, there's no evidence that D3 is on the horizon at all. Something they could consider doing to get one out very quickly is converting the next expansion into a new game instead.

>>737124000
>You gonna bot the report button to get this deleted too?
If your shit got deleted its not someone "botting" its a janny sitting in the thread deleting stuff he doesnt like, marathon has had a consistent troon janitor who sits in threads and deletes things he doesn't like.

>>737124931
It didn't hit 30k last weekend

>>737125340
Yeah, but this week was the big mid-season 'balance patch,' and I think it's the last major content release before the reset in June. It's like when Cryo first dropped.

>>737105892
mmos figured this out 30 years ago with pvp servers and pve servers

>>737125163
>See Steam reviews
You get what you pay for

>>737114645
There's 2 wild cards here, and that's Sony's internal strategy, and the amount of MTX. The key condition is if the losses in total are big enough for normie investors to notice.

I think MTX is ass. I'm not seeing people buy the skins. They had to spruce up the offerings because they were niggardly and cheap looking. It's not showing up on any of the usual rev measurments, but it's also hard to read, so I could be completely wrong.

The fact that they went ahead with Fairgame$ is amazing in and of itself, calling itself an extraction game, and a sign of how shit marathon is doing and their level of desperation on live service shit..

As far as ongoning expenses, they need millions just to keep the servers up. And further dev is infamously expensive bungie rates. They pulled their devs from GDC, but I'm not seeing any kind of development that would change their direction. Their current content level with their maps is an embarassment, and most players will never actually do anything on Cryo anyways.

I don't think they pull the plug until they have some idea of what the fuck they want Bungie to be doing going forward. And no shitposting or posing, I have no fucking clue what they should be doing, or even what the possibilities are. Modern bungie isn't self sufficient, and needs lots of contractors to get anything out the door. Do you give current Bungie a quarter billion dollars for a deep PVE mode? Give up and put a half billion dollars in to D3 or Not Halo? Deploy them to support some other games? Strap them to a 500k hellbomb?

>>737114838
>Putter out like anthem.
This is most likely, but I'd also keep in mind that Sony may be willing to take a loss in the 2 digit or 3 digit range in millions to keep this thing alive longer.

We still don't know what Marathon's ongoing stable player count is. The group that would go through more than one wipe and keep going, other than that it's a lot lower than now. We also know the point at which they start having serious matchmaking problems, and lose flexiblity on even trying new modes because it will split the playerbase, and parts of asia are feeling that now.

We'll see soon enough on their upcoming roadmap. Are they putting enough money and effort in to make a new AA game? I don't think they can or will.

>>737117645
Seriously anon. Bungie's better offf just giving up on this and making a new game.

>>737121112
I don't think even contaminating the city's estradol supply with arsenic will be enough anon.

>>737120850
Lurk more noobcakes. This isn't even hate.

>>737119814
>Oh it's only an anthem class failure!!

>>737125954
>Bungie's better offf just giving up on this and making a new game.
This is the only game Bungie ever made that I had interest in. I won't be playing Destiny 3. I just want this one.

>>737119356
Fair question. They grow over time because they tend to launch in early access, with low budget and low marketing. The successes here take the early player input and build something worth playing, and gain attention, so their player numbers climb.

That's absolutely not the case with Marathon. they already have spent a AAAA level on development. They have a similarly huge marketing push, where they hired out all the big streamers twice.

Core audiences have seen it, and this is what they've got. The rest rejected it or tried it and rejected it/abandoned it. So for it to gain, where are the people coming from and why? Not streamers and their audience. Not the extraction players.

So what's left? Maybe some crazy hail mary transformation like fortnite adding building and battle royall or going from titanfall 2 to apex, which is almost building a new fucking game.

Where do you see the players joining from? Because I don't think someone's gonna see "ooh, it's dire marsh but NIGHTGIME", and get his friends to pay 120 to buy in.

>>737125767
Sony makes most of their money through platform fees (it's in their financial reports) and MTX. Marathon isn't a MTX monster because of the art style if nothing else, and you already mentioned Bungie having to add more skins and change MTX pricing because nobody was buying anything. There's no way Marathon is making any serious MTX money.

>millions for servers
No, but it's probably a few hundred thousand a month at least since these are the fancier 60 tic rate servers or smth. The salaries are the real killer, since it's still 300 people at Bungie on Marathon.

>what do you do with Bungie
That's the million dollar question and all we can do is speculate until Sony's next big financial call in a few weeks, if they even talk about it at all.

>>737126591
I mean servers at this level tend to go by extended contracts, and I could see sony, even if they had give up, just letting it go until the end of server contract, or until they have a new game to push that needs more servers.

Which leads to the potentiial hilarity of Marathon continuing to survive because Farigames and Horizon hunters crash so hard that they're better off leaving the servers up for marathon.

Although having marathon's servers go to Horizon...which then dies is also a good enough outcome for me as well.

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>>737121112
Steiner's attack will save Marathon.

>>737127213
Flopathon's chart analytics projects Marathon going under 1k players by mid-June if the current loss rate maintains. The matchmaking will probably fundamentally break if the game goes beneath 15k peaks because nobody is going to wait 5m+ to get gaped by sweats in 30 seconds.

>Horizon live service slop
I don't even know when it's supposed to come out. All I remember about it, aside from the ugly characters, is that they did a local playtest the same weekend Marathon did its server slam, which seemed insulting (but funny) to me

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>>737121112
It's insane how parasocial the gaming industry is. They're buying a fucking product. Imagine if these faggots felt like they had to send "kindly worded emails" to the people who worked on Morbius.
Fucking lunatics.

>>737128087
Mein fuhrer...

>>737128476
DSP will outlive marathon
the King never stops

>>737120850
I'm afraid you might be lost. I believe you were looking for a place called "resetera" but unfortunately you must have typed "4chan" by mistake

>>737128354
Asia, which is well below 10k, maybe 8 k? Is already having matchmaking failures in some modes at some times.

I mean at SOME point, you expect the loss to slow down to it's core players, just because of the people who spent 40 and want their money's worth, and the people who really, REALLY like the kind of rapefest that this game is, like that one anon who's tracking his hours.

>>737121112
holy fucking cope
better ask him how much he spent on the game. fucking retarded liberals

>>737128835
I mean that would be the case even if the game was a smashing success

>>737121229
>tranny flag faggot shilling for a multi billion dollar company and sending them kind letters
they're completely un-aware of how sad they are, yet try and project that onto anyone who's not left-wing.

I call them, the Gaped.

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[Heartbreaking News] Marathon isn't in the top 100 most played or top 100 global best sellers

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Arcbros...why did Embark rugpull us

>>737114913
Same with movies and music. People are realizing that critical darlings and awards show winners are not always good.

>>737131025
maratroons getting mogged by a single player pedophile game that cost $20 more

>>737131025
[Heartwarming News]

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>>737131025
doesn't this mean their MTX revenue is complete garbage

>>737131025
So, by revenue, fucking Grounded, HUNT is beating marathion. Hell,even chinese shovelware BID KING at 3 dollars is beating marathon in rev.

>>737105892
its hard. when you have two distinct game modes that require the same guns but different damage output for multiple different targets and gane modes, one mode is gonna take priority over the rest.
>when pvp wins out, you get shit like marathon or tarkov. marathon loses players daily and the other is always gonna be small, but dedicated.
>when pve wins out, you get arc raiders and helldivers 2. both doing ok, but they are pretty shit in terms of content.
meanwhile single player games sell millions.

>The mid season update made players go up for 1 day
This game unironically has some of the worst player retention I've ever seen for a live service shooter

>marathon
>zero matches on rule34
DOA

i was raped by bungie

>>737131708
Many such cases

maratroons: I dont think about you at all
also maratroons: ARC RAIDERS ARC RAIDERS ARC RAIDERS ARC RAIDERS

>>737131859
only five days to get those damage challenges done, better hurry

>>737131937
only five days til you hit under 20k at peak, better consult your 400,000 discord sisters

>>737131859
Arc Raiders made some post on Twitter with some cryptic lettering and maratroons had an actual meltdown saying they were copying marathon

>>737131390
Garbage is an understatement. Shovelware with an overwhelming negative revew rating is out earning it.

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>>737132145
so on top of only selling 1.3m they're not making shit off MTX
kekaroo

>>737132264
wait a minute that background...

>>737131708
I raped bungie.

>>737131859
To be fair, there have been tons of threads comparing Marathon's player count to that of Arc Raiders, so it's not the genuine player's fault that it's on the mind. Hell, all that discussion even made me buy Arc Raiders just to see what all the hoopla was about. It's alright. I like the sliding and big map size.

>>737133130
I watched and did not help either of you.

>>737119356
>Line constantly going up
that's the opposite of marathon.

>>737129004
>you expect the loss to slow down to its core players
That's basically what's been happening since launch, and the achievement stats tell the same story: It's a small (and shrinking) group of people who really like the game, because surprise fucking surprise, that's the way niche genres tend to go. The attrition is probably just natural, with peoples' attention spans ever shrinking, even for games they like. The bigger story is that there's little to no growth, so it's just the original niche audience slowly falling off.

And if you're someone who hasn't bought the game and does even the smallest looking into it (reading forums or whatever), all you see are stories about how people are getting steamrolled by sweats or sniped across the map by cheaters. Who would want to come into a game like that?

>>737131859
The jealousy over Arc Raiders goes all the way back to Bungie with the *** ******* thing. Even the paid Marathon shills apparently had orders to shit talk Arc whenever possible, and they'd always use the same five or six (dishonest) images to try to attack the game. It was shameless (and embarrasingly bad)

Arcbros, I don't feel so good

Arena looter shooters are fucking dead. When is everyone going to accept that fact? Every single title that has come out that does this has died a screaming death within three months. It is not a popular genre. It's a genre people convince themselves is popular, and then they buy the newest thing to play with everyone else, whereupon they realize, yet again, it is shit and stop playing.

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>>737119356
yeah, usually
you see how one line go up and one line go down
that bad