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Why is the pc gaming market still so wildly miniscule compared to console gaming despite seeming way more popular online?
Even with niche titles like Pragmata outselling PC 10:1.
The GTA leaks, though predictable given the normie market on consoles eating up Rockstar slop, it was still shocking seeing even last gen consoles generating more revenue than PC gaming. Is there just no hope of PC gaming ever being the mainstream gaming platform?
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What does rating a game require on the Playstation store vs Steam? Maybe it's just easier to rate on PSN idk...
I've never rated a game anywhere, I rarely even put games on my wishlist it simply seems like too much of a hassle.
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Has there been a single game on xbox/playstation with score lower than 4 stars? Feels like consolefags will love whatever dogshit they are served and give it a 4.5 minimum, unless it's the consoles themselves making scores up.
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>>737113776
this isnt on PC
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>>737112336
everyone point at the snoy and laugh
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>>737113713
RE is perhaps the most americanized jap series there is, makes sense it doesn't have a lot of chinks
and wukong isn't fair to bring up at all in this conversation since it was like 90%+ chinks for obvious reasons
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>>737112336
>muh revenue
The only place where console beats out PC is in the amount of money they spend on MTX and lootbox slop.
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>>737113074
You need to buy the game digitaly to rate It, so the PSN reviews are actually a pretty small factor in their sales.
>>737113561
That's impossible because star ratings werent available on ps4/ps5 until a few years ago.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-pragmata-twitch-campaign-draws -the-attention-of-users-of-pedophil ic-meme.1494307/
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>>737114337
Falcom are the only devs I know of that have separate steam entries for their jap/chink and English ports anon so they aren't a good metric either
also their localized releases are delayed almost always
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>>737112336
I'm not buying games with Denuvo.
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>>737114307
Didn't know that, never bothered to rate or review a game, I've got a PS5 and it usually gathers dust, the most time I've spent using it was replaying PS4 games lol.
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No idea
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>>737112336
always been
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>>737114675
>just Denuvo
LMAO
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>>737112336
Because PC gamers are all retarded and they only play microtransaction mobile-like slop.
Whenever PC shills say PC will become the dominating platform, remind them mobile is bigger than PC and consoles combined.
When PC shills try to discredit mobile as "not real gaming", show tem them that the vast majority of PC cucks are playing the exact same games people are playing on mobile.
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>>737112485
You realize games have different demographics and platform preferences? Capcom isn't the end all and be all
Dragon Quest sells more on Nintendo than Playstation and PC due to series lineage and appeal
There was that GTA and Red Dead Online leak which shows the the majority of retards who still pay for shark cards are so console focused even last gen PS4/XOne outrank PC
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>>737115053
PC idiots are too busy spending their money on League of Legend skins >>737114972
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>>737112336
PC fatties just play skinner boxes to escape reality, console dudes play game to have fun (outside of cod or fifa)
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>>737112336
PC market is larger, but its also more consolidated onto the same dozen or so big games.
CS2
PUBG
DOTA2
Slay the Spire II
Apex Legends
shit like that
If your game isn't in the top 20 concurrent players on steam its basically invisible on PC. PC games don't care about games like Pragmata.
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>>737115234
True, most PC retards are Chinks, and mostly because consoles are heavily restriced there. There ONLY reason PC gaming is even relevant at all is because the Chinese government banned consoles until recently, and place heavily restrictions to this day. If it weren't for government intervention, PC would lose most of its playerbase. PC gaming is a house of cards.
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>>737114086
>console
When looking at the console data, there are three distinct splits: Nintendo holds the highest share, followed by PlayStation in the middle, and Xbox at the low end. Meaning PlayStation depends on retarded snoyggers splurging on MTX and lootbux slops.
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>uppity snoy infestation itt
reminder that snoys spend 4.37x the amount of microtransactions but are still too poor to buy a gaming machine that respects their intelligence
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>>737117569
The older you get and the more responsibilities that you have, the more appealing console couch gaming becomes. AVGN was unironically right. PC is better when you have more free time, console is better when you don't. It's really that simple.
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>>737118142
no, that's just you being retarded
computers are not that hard to game on, this is consolecuck boogeyman shit and you're guessing this based on the fact that modern 40 and 50 year olds were raised with consoles
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>>737114080
Not the point.
>>737115726
Yes, they're all embarrassing mainstream garbage. But PC is the worst out of all 4 platforms. Which is why you won't post it.
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>>737118142
When you become older you realize that mediocrity is something that bleeds into every aspect of your life. The brain doesn't need to "relax", otherwise you would feel good after scrolling tik tok for hours after work, it thrives under constant stimulation, it doesn't even stop when you sleep.
So doing things because they're easier (they're not in this case) is a formula to be mediocre in everything you do really. That has literally been proven.
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>>737118142
I don't understand why you people keep saying this when you have big picture, you can use a controller (any controller) on PC and shit, it's been like a decade since this. Are you ignorant or just lying? There are no advantages to consoles because the PC can replicate everything they do without paying for online.
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>>737118349
>put in disc/cartridge
>it works
>no troubleshooting
>all your time can be spent playing the game
>can put it into sleep mode and leave the game running whenever without it getting in the way of anything else you need to do for work
>can pause it at any time
Really, it's the pausing at any time that's big because if your wife or kids decide to bother you, you can instantly pause even Elden Ring which you can't do on PC.
It's about convenience winning out. Even just sitting down on your couch and hitting a button on your controller and having it instantly boot up without jumping through hoops is more convenient then entering a password on your pc, booting up steam, letting the shaders compile, and then playing.
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>>737118662
>put in disc/cartridge
you don't even have to do that on pc
>it works
>no troubleshooting
>all your time can be spent playing the game
again, consolecuck boogeyman
>can put it into sleep mode and leave the game running whenever without it getting in the way of anything else you need to do for work
>can pause it at any time
also a thing on pc?
i have a hotkey that drops the game to 5fps
again, you're just projecting your retardation and spouting console propaganda because that's what you've grown up with
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>>737118963
>again, consolecuck boogeyman
You don't play enough PC games day 1 then. Elden Ring had the microstutters on PC at launch and DD2 didn't allow some people to advance past the opening on PC because it kept closing out on them. Shit, I'm playing older games on PC and still sometimes have them error out and close on me because I'm playing some pre 2020's Japanese game and the nips can't code. When you have to start updating drivers and reverting them to get a game working, that's when you were better off grabbing the game on a console and it still happens to this day.
>i have a hotkey that drops the game to 5fps
5fps and 0fps are very different things.
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Both PC and Sony are dying.
Nintendo is objectively going to be the only major platform within the next 5 years.
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Oh, a fun one for me was Fate/Samurai Remnant not displaying any of the anime cutscenes on PC because I had to download a VP9 codec to get them to work. Thank god for the Steam forums
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I'm enjoying watching PC and PlayStation slowly.
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>>737112336
>buy the game on Steam
>"just play the game bro"
>buy the game on PS store
>"Sony always puts customers above all, please rate your experience, your feedback matters, here's a questionnaire it will just take 5 minutes I swear bro, or just click 5 stars to play now"
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>console tranny still seething and coping
you lost troon
get over it
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>snoys be like
>yo this graphix are fire
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>>737120132
>all 3 games are carried by chinese sales
https://gamalytic.com/game/1245620
https://gamalytic.com/game/1903340
https://gamalytic.com/game/2246340
oh no no no
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Its not. In many cases, PC via Steam is often the most viable platformThe problem is that all manners of retards can't get it through their head that
>only a small fraction of people who buy games on PC, ever review them
>Steam Reviews are the most content heavy/effort required in that you actually need to type some shit out and its made public, associated with your profile (for the most part)
as opposed to consoles which are closed, proprietary platforms, the "1-5 star" ratings is often allowed to check a box without writing anything substantive just like a lot of typical social media interactions these days where people are encouraged to give every random service a perfect score if they liked it and only less if there was some sort of problem etc... of course it will skew that way.
Steam reviews are some of the only viable ones out there because they break away from all that bullshit and instead move into just positive/negative and give people the chance to write stuff if they wish. However, a lot of people don't wish and that's fine, but it doesn't mean a damn thing about how well the game actually sold.
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>>737120347
>muh china
cope
you lost and will continue to lose tranny
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>>737120407
imagine buying a multiplayer game and 1/4th of the players are chinese lmao. just accept that you're going to get hackers every match, might as well go play on russian servers that point. even playing with the brs would be better.
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>>737112336
>console trannies are also pedos
checks out
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>being ass mad all the time you make console warring threads over multiplats
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>>737120613
incorrect
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>>737118142
Nah, I use Steam Link to stream games from my PC to the living room TV. No issues at all; I love the setup.
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>>737112336
lol
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>>737119385
kek
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>>737121646
what do you expect from typical snoyggers?
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>>737122035
>PDF games are still pretty niche so PCbros dom't bother to check them out since they are spoiled by choice.
Pretty much this. However, we will find out tonight and weekend.
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>>737118617
They can't even plug a console into the TV on their own.
The idea of being able to connect a PC to a TV is still decades beyond their comprehension.
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Damn, I've never seen someone so comprehensively raped before, lol.
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>>737122349
why are snoys like this?
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lmao
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I'm enjoying the game but I'm so ass on it, holy shit, by brain can't process shooting, dodging and hacking at the same time.
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Very High Taste and Intelligence.
We are not cucked by consolecucks' controlled catalog
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>>737122865
based af
We, PChads usually just wait for a sale; we already have a massive backlog to get through. It’s something console players are constantly envying.
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>>737118142
By that logic, phone gaming is even better than console gaming.
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Because its more expensive and most people play games casually?
Not really that hard to grasp. Why would a working person who plays games casually spend 3-5 grand on a rig + over a hundred or more on a monitor + other costs like mouse and keyboard? A normal person would spend that on a holiday or put it towards a mortgage deposit.
>just build pc
One - it doesn't make a massive difference and my point still stands. Two - most people are not knowledgeable enough and can't be arsed watching a long ass youtube video or instructions.
Then you have the constant maintenance every few years, upgrading, some random file somewhere fucking up your game, errors so you have to watch some indian guy on YouTube to try and fix, etc.
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>>737112336
Because Pragmata uses Denuvo, and while this may just be a case of Capcom autism, most major publishers use Denuvo to slow down discussion and critical adoption during the early days of release, so unless they hire a shill company, no one is talking about it or recommending it. The natural consequence is that only people who buy shit games on PC will buy Denuvo games at full price in the early days, whereas consoletards will reach much faster full adoption.
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A 60$ Denuvo game will have worse adoption, because you're getting a worse product.
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>>737123540
Same here. I will leave a review when I feel like.... not like snoyggers pressing a button to give a simple star like a drooling retard.
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>>737121684
I was wondering if this was it. I don't give a thumbs up or anything on steam most of the time because I don't want to write anything. I'd click 5 stars on the cute loli game before launching it though.
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>>737112336
>Why is the pc gaming market still so wildly miniscule compared to console gaming despite seeming way more popular online?
It's not
>Even with niche titles like Pragmata outselling PC 10:1.
Reviews are not indicative of sales.
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We already know Snoys spend all of their parents money on fortnite and gta mtx lol
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>people ITT implying that chinese being majority on steam is somehow bad
meanwhile amerimongrels love dogshit like Veilguard
seems like the chinks have better taste
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There's very few games that are still console majority. Mostly just COD, GTA, sports games and fighting games. Pretty much every other game is pc centric.
I think it's mostly coz of China desu. They don't give a fuck about consoles and pretty much only game on mobile and pc.
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>>737124962
>majority on steam
it's called chinese new year
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>>737112336
Doesn't PS5 nags you to rate the game? Steam doesn't. Anyway, more concurrent players right now than ratings, so it's meaningless.
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>>737112485
Yeah because the games were being sold for $2, pc gamers are cheap ass motherfuckers. Third party games always sell better on consoles, the cope that console gamers don't buy anything other than sports and shooting games, is projection from pc trannies that only play the same rts, fps and survival games for 10 years lmao
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They just said Requiem sold better on PC too. Nothing to do with monhun. They also publish sales reports on their website, PC just outsells everything for any franchise.
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>Resident Evil Requiem (RE9) has become the fastest-selling game in the franchise, selling over 6 million copies within two weeks of its February 27, 2026, release . The PlayStation 5 version is the top-selling platform (54% of UK sales), followed closely by a surge in PC (Steam) sales, where it achieved a record 344,000+ concurrent players.
Depends where.
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Resident Evil Requiem (RE9) dominated its debut week in Japan (Feb 23–Mar 1, 2026), selling 155,373 copies on PS5 and 38,793 on Switch 2, according to Famitsu sales data . It was the top-selling new game, driven by a strong 64% PS5, 36% PC, and 4% Switch 2, and 6% Xbox Series split globally
Here's Japan
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>>737126120
>Anyway, seems like steam has purged about 50% of pragmata reviews in the last hour.
I wonder why
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>>737127396
cope >>737121157
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exception, not the rule.
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burgers are still buying more on consoles.
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>>737127661
>exception, not the rule.
No. It is the rule.
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where are the mods
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PC is the top platform.
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nope, it's all of Europe.
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>>737127821
>PC is the top platform.
and it's still dwarfed by consoles, which is my point. thank you for proving it for me.
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google it, i believe in you.
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>>737127821
So when its Elden Ring UK matters but not RE?
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>>737127662
Any PC player that would unironically play GTAO for more than a few hours is probably smart enough to just hack it. The casino roulette hack set my account up to be able to buy up every new content they added.
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>>737127927
>and it's still dwarfed by consoles, which is my point. thank you for proving it for me.
It is the #1 platform and it's why everyone is releasing on PC now.
>no source on his claim
Figures lol
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>It is the #1 platform
here's something for you to wrap your brain around. if the united states is the top market for a product and 44% of all the products are sold there, the rest of of the world still buys more of that product than the united states.
is this hard for an esl to comprehend?
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no shit, that was just an example because the us being the highest selling market is quite common. notice how i said product and not elden ring, you're an actual moron. it saddens me pc game has become so approachable that retards like you are now playing on it. steam really brought down the iq needed to play on pc by an astronomical amount.
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>>737112336
PC is always overstated. Many are filtered by the prices that until recently were a lot higher than similar consoles. Stuff like Minecraft only took off due to a mobile edition. Although, with consoles being price hiked, they are doing a good job at balancing things. But what they don't realize is that this will just make people stop buying games in general. The entirety of the gaming industry is dying. The Japanese stuff is the only part doing well, because they have the Switch 2 which is normal priced in Japan and good games.
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>>737112336
I don't write reviews.
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>>737112336
Because by default steam auto starts with your pc. So you'll have a few million PCs that's just have steam open.
That's why the number of people online vs in game is always like 33% less. Also when you take out the forever gamers who just play csgo or tf2, the bots from those games and people who pirate.
You'll see that actual pc players are nonexistent.
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>>737112336
Those are ratings, not copies sold.
Idiot.
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>>737118142
My opinion him as a legitimate game player has really gone down the absolute shitter.
Hes beyond casual. It's shocking honeslty how someone that dedicated so much time ot playing and talking about games has such a total disinterest in any form of hardcore gaming.
He didn't mod any of his consoles, he wasn't interested in how any of the games worked, he wasn't interested in any ways to improve gameplay say via mods.
Hes like that girl you meet at some normie party who claims shes a gamer.
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>>737129635
Due to incessant chink spam, many don't remember how rich and populous Japan is. Your average poster nowadays doesn't seem to realize that the Japanese market is capable of supporting many companies and brands to the point where even the giants don't really give a shit what happens globally.
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>>737129768
>350k completed downloads off one torrent link
And people wonder why Sony is leaving the PC space and why other companies pay to have DRM on their releases
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>>737130038
>PCfags = poorfags who spend all their savings to build a gaming PC: "muh goyslop rtx 9090, bro"
Forgot the conclusion: therefore, no money to purchase games as shown here >>737130318 and pic related
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You just know whichever self insert karen wrote this is black and fugly despite larping about boys chasing after her
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>>737130290
You're honestly exaggerating here massively.
The Japanese market is maybe 10-15 million casual players and maybe 1 million hardcore ones.
You can see this in the data most casual as fuck Games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe after 9 years of existing have sold about 6 million physical copies and double that for digital.
So 12 million total.
Animal Crossing did 8 million physical so double that so 16 million total and thats the absolute peak here.
And more nice series like Octopath Traveler sell about 100k-200k copies at release with say a total of 500k sold by a few years in.
So no the Japanese market isn't big by any imagination it's about as big as UK market or German market.
Most people are too old to play games and not connected to gaming at al.
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>>737130318
Sony isn't leaving the PC because some Russians pirated Spiderman they're leaving because Xbox isn't a threat anymore not is Gamepass.
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Why yes, I spent over $2000 on my gaming PC and still pirate my games, problem?
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>>737121684
Well that would make people more inclined to rate games, like I said I ain't writing Steam reviews, not even joke ones, too much hassle.
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>>737130318
The modern piratefag is truly an enigma. They became so loud and elitist about stealing games and then cry out everytime companies try to defend their products. It is so bizarre. I personally only pirate dlc I am unimpressed by for grand strategy games. I wouldn't announce this to everyone though.
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>>737131127
I would tell it to everyone because by god the paradox buisness model suck ass.
Drip feeding you dogshit at 30€ a pop. No sorry I don't eat dogshit and no I refuse to pay for it.
Anyone ever playing a paradox game should pirate all their DLCs.
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>>737131127
>I personally only pirate dlc
*blocks your path*
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>>737131218
Well, there is a point. But it could still be useful to strategically support them if that make a dlc that actually interests you instead of more meme shit for reddit. It is sort of funny how the free updates tend to have much better and more interesting content than the dlc simply because the dlc tends to focus on nonsense. I'm really displeased that the first dlc and major free update for EU5 is focusing on Byzantium, although some of the features like letting ideology spread will be nice. They should really be giving us something for colonialism or to flesh out Asia slightly more though. Stuff that will make the first part of the early modern period more interesting.
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