good luck

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>>737131120
When simulation becomes the norm, the human capacity for discernment atrophies and our social bonds become enclosed in self-referential circuits that cease to show us reality. We then live as if inside impermeable bubbles with one another, we feel threatened by anyone who is different, and we grow unaccustomed to encounter and dialogue. This is how polarization, conflicts, fears, and violence spread. What is at stake is not a mere risk of error, but a transformation of the very relationship with truth itself.

Reminder to install linux on a seperate drive so windows doesn't fuck with it and give you weird problems.

>>737131120
Don't use Bazzite. It's a tranny distro.

>>737131120
Do yourself a favor and try cachyOS instead of bazzite, I started on bazzite and after the tranny drama happened updates are gonna be a lot more unoptimized and infrequent, plus learning Arch is much more useful

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>>737131120
>he fell for the basshite meme

>>737131247
Yeah yeah all Linux is "tranny" by shitposter logic

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>install cachyos
>start game
>runs perfectly
>crashes randomly 15 minutes later
>switch back to windows

>>737131343
not op, but i have an extra system i plan to throw linux on also. how good is cachyos for gaming?

>>737131343
Seconding this
t. Switched to cachyos and its much better

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>fotm meme distro #895478543

>>737131120
Let me know if you need help with anything, I've been daily driving Bazzite for months now.

>>737131343
>>737131354
>>737131515
Sorry that I'm not using whatever distros you prefer, but I wouldn't get anywhere if I had to listen to every single one of you.

>>737131464
proton-cachyos is a great fork.

Just get PopOS and disable automatic updates.

>>737131940
>Cosmic
>in the year of our lord 2026
Maybe in 2 years.

>>737131464
The extra benefits are minimal. Maybe in some edge cases like low VRAM gaming it could be useful. Where Cachy shines in the fact that it's literally just Arch (SteamOS also uses it) with an installer. And Arch is great, the latest updates (important for vidya), AUR, great wiki

>>737132139
they'll be transitioning back to GNOME by then

>>737131120
Stick to major distros and avoid derivatives like Bazzite, Nobara and CachyOS. This is especially true if it's your first time trying out Linux. Derivative distros, especially the gaming focused ones, sometimes do retarded shit that compromise the system stability to gain 0.5 fps in games.

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A while back i bought this dell. Recently i tried to install steamos on it. It seems to install fine, but ones it restarts i get an error saying 'the watchdog did not stop'. Every time i start it up it says this and the system just hangs.

Any of you linux chads know how to fix this?

>>737132752
That message usually appears at shutdown, and is harmless. But what happens if you add nowatchdog to your boot flags? (pressing e at kernel selection usually, temporary)

>>737132294
Mainline distros have their own problems. Mostly defaults, like pushing snaps, or lacking codecs/drivers like Fedora. Since the problems are just bad defaults, it's easy to work past them if you know what to do but it's needless trouble for a newbie who just wants stuff to work out of the box.
Cachy is popular because it werks

>>737133089
i dont think i even get a kernel selection when it boots up. i will go check this, gimme a sec

>>737133237
I'm running Nobara since forever with no issues

>>737133289
Might be hidden depending on what your distro/bootloader set as default. If it is, there should be a key to hold for it to show.

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>>737133289
>>737133089
yeah theres no selection, this is what i get

>>737133627
>>737133289
>>737133089
just as a heads up, linux will be the only thing going on the nvme drive. i also tried two different monitors, one with hdmi and the other with the older dvi connection, both give this same screen. thanks for even bothering to reply sirs

>>737133861
It's either escape or space bar, hold down either one during boot

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The perfect SO already exists, why keep memeing about Linux?

>>737131120
ANON DONT IT MAKES MUSTARD GAS

>>737134298
>perfect
>already decaying and getting dropped from minimum requirements and it will only get worse
>won't be able to use future hardware

>>737133237
>Mostly defaults, like pushing snap
Ubuntu is not a mainline distro, it's just worse Debian.

>>737134253
I tried holding each key by itself for a boot and no luck. I'm thinking steamos just doesn't like something about this pc. maybe i will try cachyos.

>>737133237
on fedora rpmfusion gets out of sync sometimes and its kind of annoying last time it was for about 2 days

>>737134298
so?

>>737131343
there's genuinely no point in pushing different distros on people who made up their mind
bazzite is perfectly fine if you don't want to think that hard

>>737134537
SteamOS is specifically designed for Valve hardware so it doesn't like most other hardware. It's why projects like Bazzite, Nobara and ChimeraOS exist.

>>737134384
Already can't use current hardware properly. The scheduler that accounts for Performance and Efficiency cores in CPUs is Windows 11 only.

>>737135253
not him, i used to think like that but i now understand that steamos will basically be the ubuntu of arch

>no! this distro is better!
>no! that distro is better!
im starting to think these kind of posters are just microsoft bootlickers in disguise to make linux tards look bad

>>737131186
polarization, conflicts, fears and violence were doing just fine before your boogeyman

>>737137182
they're better for different use cases

>>737137182
Each distro is better for a specific usecase but anons are too cooked to discuss it with any kind of nuance.

>>737137182
I think the pros outweigh the cons. The truth is it'll probably work. And if it doesn't the more popular the distro you picked the more likely someone else already had the same issue and figured it out. Then you get the odd unlucky user that just has everything break constantly and they never fuck with Linux again cause it just fucking sucked.

>>737131120
I personally didn't like Bazzite. I get what they're going for but it's too limiting for me.
I tried cachy and it's way better, but since I love to tinker, I went full Arch and customized the whole thing.
But whatever anyone tells you about your choice of Distro remember this, they're wrong. Whatever one you like is the correct distro.
Hope it all goes smoothly for you, OP.

bazzite is the nigger of the family

just use silverblue

>>737137182
No, they are linux users, it's always been like this.
It's like console wars, people are only usually going to recommend the one they have and shit on the rest.
The fact of the matter is they are all basically the same with small differences. Almost all of modern linux is based on either Debian, Arch or Fedora.
Debian is stability but it's always old. Arch is always new but it's easy to break, and Fedora is a middle-ground between the 2.
>>737135441
That will be true after the steam machines come out, but currently the other guy is right, it's specifically built for steamdeck and is missing a lot of components for other hardware.
>>737134537
Cachy is really good, it's Arch but you don't need to be autistic to install it.

>>737132752
how many times do people need to say steamos is not supported on desktop pcs, don't install it.

>>737137182
It's not, it's just linux spergs being autistic as per our usual arrangement.
Certain distros will have some subtleties that an experienced user may appreciate but that will be completely irrelevant to a new (or even an experienced but casual) Linux user.
I've been using Bazzite for 9 months and have loved it, but I have ran up against limitations due to the way that Bazzite and other Fedora-based distros work specifically that wouldn't be issues in, say, a Debian-based distro. But it's like 1% of my use cases and I have workarounds, and everything else just works.

>>737131826
Don't listen to them
Everyone's got opinions on distros
If Bazzite works for you, great

>>737139419
Immutable is a jewish trick to take control away from the user

Threads like this just discourage me to ever think about using linux, ever. Thanks guys.

>>737139509
I don't like Bazzite either, but I'm not gonna hate on someone switching to Linux for the 1st time using it, at least to start.
Anything is better than Microsoft

>>737139136
i knew this, but i also know some have gotten lucky and steamos installed on their desktop hardware. Its all good tho, installing cachyos now.

>>737139519
suit yourself, stay on the AI jeet os if you want

Bazzite's tranny team kicked off the one guy who was actually maintaining that distro. It's eos now.

>>737139615
Let me know how you get on and send fetch when done

>>737139846
they're fine now, they now have a more communal kernel that people from multiple distros work on

>>737139868
what is send fetch?

>>737139846
You mean the handheld daemon guy who was probably going the way of the dodo anyways since Valve are going with input plumber or did they kick someone else out?

>>737140063
fastfetch, a printout of your specs with the distro logo in ascii

>>737140146
oh i got you, ill drop a pic when done

>>737131120
Advice for the future - don't waste your time with this shit, or other distros claiming to do everything "out of the box". You'll find one way or another that either Mint or, if you're more into Linux, Arch is the way to built the stablest system possible that doesn't have a thousand dependencies already installed into it and you end up smashing your head at every problem.

>>737137182
probably not far from the truth desu power users just pick one and configure it however they want. It's the noobs who want to consolewar about it

>>737131120
>trannite
lol

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It's what you do when there's nothing left to do to show your epeen

>>737140630
>schizo enough to switch to linux
>still using google search

>>737131343
whats the tranny drama with bazzite?

>>737133593
>3 year old meme distro
>since forever

>>737140746
I did it for the funny tabs. I don't want to shit up my duckduckgo cache with ghost sex memes.

>>737140851
How is it a meme distro?

>>737140630
Take the vertical tabs + taskbar pill.

>>737140630
Top 5 favorite sexy ghosts?

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>>737140146
>>737139868
uh oh. the ex office wage slave dell does not want me to have fun.

>>737131343
first time linuxtroon here, moved over in February. I actually did the opposite, switched from cachyOS to bazzite. it was just too much for me i guess, i'm too stupid to live without flatpaks

>>737140892
I tried but it fucks my muscle memory. I still have to use Windows at work.
>>737140916
Moira O'Hara, Sam Wheat, Constance Welch, Flower, Lorraine Massey

>>737141057
But you can do flatpaks on cachy...?

>>737141028
restart the installation and select systemd-boot or GRUB instead of Limine

>>737141205
bazaar isn't preinstalled
they should do that and they should put greater emphasis on the cachyos package installer, it almost completely replaces pacman

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>>737141264
now it says this. In the partition menu, im just asking it to wipe the nvme, i dont want to dual boot or anyhting. It currently has the steamos on it, do i need to manually format the drive?

>>737141641
This WILL delete everything so spoilering in case some retard pastes it into their terminal
sudo sgdisk --zap-all /dev/nvme0n1
Cachy should come with gparted though, if you alt+space you can do it with gui

>>737141365
redpill me on their package manager? What makes it better than pacman?
And cachy doesn't preinstall discover?

>Bazzite
Don't. For a number of reasons, just go with
>Arch
manual install will teach you a lot along the way
>EndeavourOS
Basically Arch repo compatible but with an automatic install with some sane desktop defaults for varying DEs/WMs
>CachyOS
Arch based, like Endeavour in that it has EZ installers for those of you in the hurry, but with some gaming-and-Zen4-or-newer-hardware optimizations in the kernel added. Good if you have recent and reasonably popular hardware and want a gaming friendly scheduler and frequent upgrades.

If you don't want to go something Arch based, then at very least
>Debian / Ubuntu derivatives
are a good idea.

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>>737142209
it's basically a browser into their repo that lets you search through packages and they all have short descriptions that act as keywords

>>737141868
well some wierd shit happened. i have not input that command yet, and the screen flashed quickly to a command prompt with some lines, and returned me to a black screen, could see my mouse pointer though. I've reset it and loading back from the usb again.

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>>737142461
This looks like 2002 steam

>>737142505
I think the steamOS is fucking with you.
When you get into bash run lsblk which will show all your drives, see if nvme0npX has more than just 1.

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>>737142619
that's just my theme

>>737142412
>recommending non-immutable/atomic rolling distros that shit themselves every half a year when an update goes wrong to new users that will copy paste random terminal commands and fuck up their install
Why?

If you aren't tech literate don't use Arch or anything Arch based (aside from SteamOS if you're on the deck). Please just stick to something like Mint, Ubuntu, or Fedora for your own sanity.

>>737140820
>kernel maintainer doesn't speak with pillowy child words
>prefers to not discuss troon oppression topic of the month in the distro discord
>once said "troon"
>this is enough to make them eject the kernel maintainer and proceed to try and rip out all of his work
>now the kernel is down from a release every few days to months in between
>latest release is a month old
>latest commit is 3 weeks ago and just version bumps

>>737142681
I think it looks awful but if you like it then it's good. But it really just instantly made me think of the first version of Steam where everyone on the internet was bitching about having to install an app to install a game.
>>737142928
>>737142975
People should learn how to fix their computers. 99% of people aren't going to touch the terminal. It's completely fine.
The only issue is that they are also not going to update their system because it's not going to tell them to.

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>>737140630
>trying to abort something that's already dead
You can't run from your responsibilities this time, anon

>>737142928
because its easier to teach people they need to think about what they're copypasta-ing and how stuff works in Linux , rather than trying to get them to fuck around trying to get an immutable distro to "just this once" update something custom and then not fuck up anything else, whenever this is necessary.

There are immutable Arch distros too, but when it comes to vidya which sometimes needs some custom fix or other bit of software long before its merged into a major update, its better to just use standard ones. Its also a reason why rolling release distros like Arch became the common base for SteamOS as opposed to Deb/Ubuntu because it meant that if you needed to get some new thing but you had to use custom repos and other shit if it isn't going to be merged before the freeze for Wandering Woodchuk or whatever the next iteration will be.

>>737131464
It's German autism. Unless you have weirdo hardware it is the best one right now. Plus the Arch Wiki is THE best one without discussion.

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>>737140146
ayy there she goes. her days of excel spreadsheets are over. I ran that zap comand after i restarted, then restarted again and it installed okay. steamos was fucking with it. thanks for the help!

>A while back I post on a linux thread here I was trying out Cachy
>Get made fun of
>Fast forward
>Now its all the rage
funny

>>737143002
oh so they shot themselves in the foot because one of their maintainers was "problematic". Well I guess im glad that im stuck on fedora, which although is obviously corpo backed, becuase its corpo backed its unlikely to have this type of retarded nonsense happen.

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>>737143480
cachy is fucking sweeping linux

>>737143115
>People should learn how to fix their computers. 99% of people aren't going to touch the terminal. It's completely fine.
I don't completely disagree with you but the problem is that most people are retarded and even if you make something retard proof they'll still find a way to break everything and then either complain that the thing is bad or bother other people and waste their time fixing it.
Especially kids nowadays who grew up on phones and tablets they don't know how to fucking use computers.
>>737143206
I think SteamOS being immutable is the correct way to do it, if something doesn't work it doesn't work and users will just have to put up with it until Valve updates and makes it work. Also while Arch is the base for the system SteamRT uses Debian under the hood because it's easier for developers to aim for a common version of packages rather than 10000000 different Arch installs with different versions of packages that have different edge cases and break for different reasons.

>>737131120
Bazzite is a noobtrap
Cachy, endeavor, or arch

>>737140630
arch with kde just fucking werks

>>737140892
i had tree-style tabs running for a bit but it was just too buggy for me. i can never get used to a vertical taskbar. also a centered taskbar is the only good UI idea MS had recently.

>>737143537
Bazzite sure is astroturfed for how few people actually use it

>>737143537
>That Ubuntu and Manjaro crash out

>>737139734
That's what I do, rock solid and it doesn't implode just for looking at it wrong.

>>737143441
Nice! Hopefully your gaymes are OK with that GPU. I think the recent drivers over the last few months fixed most of the problems nvidia had though

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>>737143702
lol

>>737143537
>ubuntu shrinking to near irrelevance
You love to see it.

>installed Fedora KDE Plasma
>it just works
at least until I tried to manually fuck with NVIDIA drivers, dont

>>737137182
Arguing about distros is the only reason for Linux's existence.

>>737143752
Nvidia is fine on Linux with nvidia-open package.
As a "power user" on a 3070 on arch, the only real hiccups are doing really weird and specific shit

>>737143832
Bet the Ubuntu forum users are real proud of themselves for being snide cunts to everyone.

>>737143545
SteamOS doing it makes sense as immutable as its not meant to be an OS you game on AND Valve is worth putting a massive amount of effort into fixing when shit comes up. Its not like some random distro where some tard is going to say
>Ackscuseme but what is the use case for being able to play a game from the early 2000s at greater than 60hz portrait aligned monitors while VRR is activated?
Compare this to a user installing a distro for their own wider, more general OS usage and not being governed by someone like Steam to update it for a particular usage.

As far as SteamRT and others things will modernize between the old SteamOS and new one. After all, you can optimize for a standard arch install compatibility and group of packages to support - something Valve's really good at standardizing in general.

>>737137182
That's FOSS in a nutshell. The only reason Linux is becoming functional for normal people is because companies are tard wrangling projects to standardize shit and make it functional.

>>737143682
QRD?

>>737143752
its not too big a deal if games work or not, i have a pretty beefy main pc. I really wanted to at least start learning how to go about using linux. got any last tips or things i should absolutely do?

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>>737143767
>press update and shutdown
It updates and restarts

>>737144087
Ubuntu
>total smug homos
Mankaro
>Hi fellow arch users, I'm having trouble with this thing, Page 10: I mean, sure I'm on Manjaro but that's like the same thing as Arch, so it makes no sense why all of your suggestions don't work

>>737143767
>30%
That's a lot of AI code

>>737144156
>shutdown and update later
>it still updates and restarts

>>737144096
Not really, just have fun. Break shit, then fix it. IDK if cachy comes with it but Mangohud is good for checking how games run. btop is good for checking your resource usage.
You can try different desktop environments if you like, such as GNOME or Hyperland if you want to rice, but I just prefer KDE because >>737143607
>arch with kde just fucking werks

>>737141365
using flatpak in the terminal isnt too bad, i was using fedora XFCE for a while and it doesnt come with any frontend/gui so I just got used to copying everything from the flathub install stuff into terminal and remembering to hit update every day the same way id sudo dnf my shit

>>737144372
there's also a firefox addon that lets you install stuff straight from flathub.org

>>737143545
>bother other people and waste their time fixing it
There is NOTHING a linux user likes more than helping someone fix some random esoteric issue that someone has.

>>737144087
Not a Linux veteran, but by what I understand
>Ubuntu
Pushed their own package manager called snaps (which you use to install applications) in detriment to an already existing and more functional solution, dabbled in their own desktop environment for no reason just to abandon it down the line, and being a disfunctional introduction to Linux noobs (which mint stole its place).
>Manjaro
Apparently they treated end users as beta testers and squandered all the goodwill they built up.

>>737144565
OH ME! ME!

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>>737144308
thanks again. have a big titty whore

>>737144565
Okay true BUT imagine how much time would be saved for other, better things if all these linux users weren't tied up trying to help someone fix their shit.

>>737144606
nah, manjaro's reputation was only ever being easy arch and they had no competition
their custom gay shit only made things worse
now that you have cachyos and endeavour there's zero reason to use it

>>737143537
>nixos
i swear every people i know irl kept trying to push that on me, i'm not switching to linux cus i like programming and setting up config files and shit, I just surf the net and play my vidya, it's why I settled on Bazzite this time around, had to do minimal setup because most all the programs I want or use were already there and all my GPU shit was set up for me

>>737144606
Not only that they pushed snap but even when you wanted to use flatpak they would still use the snap if it existed instead. Scummy. If I tell my computer to do something, it should do as I say, not what someone else thinks is best for me.

>>737144606
There's nothing wrong with snaps, but for some reason the people who build and distribute them always fuck them up which has given them a bad name.
Snaps are better than flatpaks tbfh
Missing a permission? Snaps will tell you.
Want to launch from terminal? Just type the name of the command (no flatpak run io.spergo.bigapp.mongy)

>>737143537
fedora has extremely consistent stable numbers. kind of impressive

It may not be popular, but I like Nobara

>>737137678
the work fedora did on silverblue and kinoite is understated. i put the latter on my mom's laptop and enabled autoupdates but she never left it on long enough for it to actually happen so she was 3 major versions behind. i just grabbed it, rebased it twice (it's not recommended to jump too far ahead), and it was up to date with no issues whatsoever within 20 minutes.

>>737144702
nix is 100% a meme

>>737144681
Its use of a different package manager and all kinds of weird stubborn autistic "customization" was their undoing.
Not to mention 99% of their userbase having no fucking clue what they were doing due to being completely divorced from Arch and being "arch but easy but also our devs intentionally made everything fucked up" leading to cachy and endeavor being the better options as you actually could use archwiki and archforum solutions

>>737131464
It's good, but always remember it's a hobbyist distro, don't feel comfortable thinking it'll be around 10 years from now, most of those small pet project distros always end up disappearing randomly out of nowhere.

>>737144676
But helping people fix things is fun for me. It makes me feel smart and useful.
As long as more people are using linux and learning about it I don't mind spending the time helping people for free.
If we stopped helping each other all we would do is post fetches and jerking off about how my distro is better than your distro.

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>>737131120
good luck with the flavor of the month meme distro dude

>>737144903
I gotta give heavy props to opensuse as the first full working Linux version of PrimeHack was on Opensuse, big ups to the guy who did that

>>737144721
makes sense, It seems to be the middle ground between the Arch bleedingedge whatever, and the debian/ubuntu slow cycle, people probably hop on and stick with it, bazzite too being fedora based might contribute to people looking at fedora since they wanna see the baseline before the variant

why is nobara not the more popular distro when its made by the guy who made proton and basically all major linux gaming relies on proton?

>>737145017
bazzite is more or less the same thing but "immutable" (it's not actually immutable but that's how most people understand it)

>>737145017
Many don't trust a distro being maintained by a single person or small team to stick around

>>737145017
It doesn't have a ca(t)chy name

>>737145017
Didn't he only make proton-GE? Not to say that's not a big deal but that's a far cry from "The guy who made proton"

>>737139419
What that other anon is implying really openly is that those distros have a proven record of disappearing in a couple of years.
Hell, bazzite is literally just a repackaged fedora silverblue with some repos and default configs, they don't do anything special, just package together someone else's shit.

>>737145017
because it's a one man distro and if you're looking for a linux pro then cachy just snatches all that audience

>>737144721
>>737144991
It has a strong corporate backing. People who work at Red Hat/IBM favor it, so it's an actual working OS.
It's also the upstream for a stable corporate distro (RHEL).

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>>737143838
>>installed Fedora KDE Plasma
>>it just works
SAME TWIN SAME. i am thinking of swapping to cachyOS for the gaming improvements but im also worried about the security with the AUR that I dont have to worry about with DNF

>>737132273
Unity 2.0 electric boogaloo again

>>737143838
>>737145126
I have an AMD CPU/GPU PC.
I plan to use the next Fedora KDE plasma release.
What should I do in preparation or immediately afterwards I install it to make sure everything runs properly?

>>737145172
Cosmic is so fucking bad I can't believe they thought that shit was launch ready
>HAHAHAHA WE ORPHANED A BUNCH OF YOUR POPSHOP PACKAGES
>ON A CLICKPLAY DISTRO SO NOONE KNOWS HOW TO CORRECT THAT
>JUST USE THE COSMIC STORE BRO!
and that's ignoring weird issues like screentearing on AMD GPUs and its near refusal to allow you to use kde-wayland

>>737131515
This. Just use a normal distro properly maintained for fucks sake.

>>737145226
>mmediately afterwards I install it to make sure everything runs properly?
https://github.com/wz790/Fedora-Noble-Setup

people also used to complain that fedora was very unstable but what they don't seem to realize is that the last version is still supported until the next release. the website doesn't make this super obvious though.

>>737145226
if you're on AMD you should be completely fine

>>737145126
Don't expect much from the gaming improvements. Maybe 1-5% at most.

>>737145298
>>737145313
Thanks.
I just know something is gonna go wrong due to Murphy's Law being proven right to me always.
So I always back up my stuff.

>>737145282
But anon, MEMEDISTRO is just GOODDISTRO 4 rungs removed and downstream from Arch/Fedora, what could pawsibly go wrong!?!?

>>737145361
>So I always back up my stuff.
Good, as you should.

>>737145226
Install steam and play a game. High chances are it will just work and you won't need to do anything.

>>737145226
Planning on doing the same. It's seems hassle-free but there's a snag with codecs (apparently KDE offers to install them for your?). Anyway, there's a tutorial for that: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/Multimedia

>>737145125
>It has a strong corporate backing
wouldn't that be then a reason of concern? or does the FOSS-only focus keep it pure?

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>>737145432
Cool

>>737145432
>>737145226
# Get the free repository
sudo dnf install -y \
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

# Get the nonfree repository (NVIDIA drivers, some codecs)
sudo dnf install -y \
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

# Install AppStream metadata
sudo dnf install rpmfusion-free-appstream-data rpmfusion-nonfree-appstream-data
sudo dnf check-update

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>>737145484

install gentoo

>>737145536
But I am home
And I did eat breakfast this morning

>>737145386
It's never 4 rungs down. It's always based on either Arch, Debian or Fedora directly. and it's rarely any different to the parent OS.
I can turn Arch into Cachy by simply downloading the Cachy kernel.

>>737145595
>never
Careful with never, manjaro AND bazzite aren't directly downstream. You're one bad day away from a dedOS

>>737145475
Fedora is still FOSS. They make their money from Redhat and Fedora is basically used as a testing ground for the stuff they want to put into Redhat to keep it as stable as possible.
>>737145753
I trade in hyperbole.

>>737145484
Failed dick inspection.
>>737145475
Sorry to say but there's no purity when it comes to Linux (except for some niche distros) and wasn't intended to be this way, the whole ecosystem depends on corporations helping in keeping things running and common users benefit from it. For example, Linux gaming became a serious reality because Valve invested on it.
There's the concern as Fedora is Red Hat's testing ground and that they may do funny stuff in the future.
If you want to be schizo about it, there's no purity in most Linux projects as a bunch were outward about adopting age verification for example.

>>737145541
gentoo is the new "I use arch btw"

>>737145816
>I trade in Hyperbole
BUY BUY BUY

>>737143607
It did take me like a week to get used to it. It was very off putting at first but glad I stuck to it. Only bugs I've had is getting calendar to show up on KDE, sometimes it requires 2 or 3 clicks but that's about it.

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>>737145853
>no purity when it comes to Linux
Yup. 80% of the commits to the kernel come from corporations.
Nice to see nvidia on the list finally

>>737131120
Linux will never overtake windows when there are 50 different groups making their own distro, dilluting the market and making it needlessly complex for new users. Why can't they agree to work on one distro?

>>737146047
>Huawei
I wonder how many times their contributions have been denied

>>737131464
CachyOS is by far the best distro for gaming, specially if you're a new user. It doesn't have any completely asinine eccentricities like being atomic or implementing SELinux which are gonna fuck with new users who try to do anything even slightly outside of the norm.

The only downside is that you need to install it correctly so that you have snapshots available and it's Arch based so there may be manual intervention required with updates sometimes. On the bright side you'll get more comfortable with how Arch works and that is a distro that can serve the needs of almost any kind of power user.

>>737146105
the distro choice will never be an obstacle to normies, they don't install their operating systems
literally all that matters is oems shipping it with their prebuilts and laptops

>>737145118
Who maintains cachyos? Should I trust them over using regular arch?

>>737145125
>strong corporate backing
This is also a downside, not because of schizo reasons, but because it means they respect dumb stuff like patents and licensing. All the corporate support in the world doesn't mean you can play videos out of the box. Meanwhile fotm one-man distro #7 works perfectly because Ivan doesn't give a fuck about patents.

>>737140892
Vertical tabs are retarded

>>737146184
That kind of normalfag isn't going to buy a Linux prebuilt. Unless GabeN sells it to him.

>>737146105
Linux doesn't need to overtake Windows. It just needs to survive with a decent and healthy userbase.
Everyone working in one distro doesn't work for a magnitude of reasons: use case, passion, goals, development structure, resources and so on. There doesn't need to be a be all end all distribution, if you want that stick to Microslop. For Linux find what suits you the best, and that freedom of choice is what makes it good. There can sometimes be too many options, yes, but that's better than the monolithic alternative.

>>737146184
Its gonna be a while before we start seeing that again after a few OEMs thought it'd be cute to ship laptops with ucuntu, with that faggot penguin, and totally screwed broke, retarded, college students.
https://youtu.be/5Qj8p-PEwbI?si=ByKB0AWfyL48Yodz
To the OEMs defense, Linux was not retarded broke college student ready at that time

>>737146389
Normoids would buy a non-Valve Linux prebuilt if it came with SteamOS most likely. People like SteamOS.

>>737140630
>no gay ghosts with hats on
one job

>>737146389
I've seen plenty of normalfags buying Linux laptops. As long as the browser works that's all they care about.

>>737146280
about 20 people
arch itself is only maintained by 30 people
the job of cachy devs is much less demanding than what arch devs do, they just recompile shit for newer cpus

>>737146105
You're thinking about distros incorrectly. They are all basically the same. The differences is what comes pre-packaged. Cachy is still Arch. Bazzite is still Fedora. Mint is still Debian. You can turn any of those parents into the child distro by simply installing the packages and configs.

>>737146105
>Linux will never overtake windows
So? as long as I and my friends can have a decent alternative to the fucking cancer that is microslop I dont care how popular it is. Obviously the more popular something is, the more support it will get, but linux has been gaining steady momentum in the gaming space for a while now because of the push from Valve. Even if it never goes above 25% market share thats still fucking MASSIVE.

>>737131247
untrue, i use cachy.

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>>737146751
It's ridiculous that it's even at 5% among gamers desu.

>>737146132
they almost got a backdoor into the kernel a couple years ago

>>737146751
This. I'm at exactly the comfy spot that if we stay here forever, that's fine.

Fedora KDE helped me keep my ancient Laptop going and im surprised I can even emulate stuff nicely, I'll be building a PC soon (or maybe ill just get a laptop and stuff Linux on it), but I guess Ill keep using Fedora KDE Im already used to it and from what it seems vidya improvements go to pitiful amounts of just 10 or so frames 90% of the time

I just need more Linux support of the few gacha I play and that's it I would be happy
Still I would move if Fedora starts adding weird shit for example

>>737147237
FEDORA KDE BROS UNITE

>>737147237
>>737147332
Kinoite my beloved

>>737146891
It's not that ridiculous, there is an over saturation of games so "some games don't work" is a very small sacrifice to make for the average gamer who isn't literally 12 years old. Windows is really miserable to use too, I don't even use it full time (use it on laptop and at work) and every time I do it just feels awful.

It's the non-gamers that would have a hard time migrating, since they have all kinds of Windows workflows that don't work on Linux.

>>737147237
I tell ya nothing makes me hate windows more than these 2 things
>TEEHEE I UPDATED, REENABLED SECUREBOOT AND CSM, AND REPARTITIONED MYSELF DESTROYING YOUR LINUS PARTITION
And
>HAHAHAHAHA, YOUR 5 YEAR OLD LAPTOP ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO RUN ME AFTER ALL OF MY UPDATES, FUCK YOU BITCH!!!!
This shit was top of the line when I bought it, and now you need triple the CPU speed, and double the RAM?? So I can fucking pipe movies to my TV!?!?

>>737147012
Ironically saved by Microsoft of all companies. Well not Microsoft just one guy who works for them but still.

>>737147395
Windows 11 would never enable CSM. I can assure you at least that much.

>>737147406
one day im gonna just buy this game and get it running on linux just to laugh at you.

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>>737147406
you lost, winjeet

>>737147460
>>>>>>buy
LAWL

people also forget that you can run different distros depending on your needs. my machine which i use daily runs arch, my laptop and my mom's PC run immutable fedora since they're nearly maintenance-free

>>737145873
its ok you want Poettering to fuck you in the ass personally

also you apparently want to use bloated binaries because they are compiled with generic features that you should strip out if you don't use them e.g. bluetooth feat on desktop if you dont use bluetooth

>>737147512
its on steam, whats wrong with buying it?

>>737147460
Testing a pirated GoG copy rn, I'll post results in a sec

>>737147598
>buy a bluetooth headset/controller
>oops i have to recompile 80% of my packages
lol

>>737147603
nothing wrong with it, but you still need to run steam to play it. Meanwhile my copy on external hard drive still can run on newly installed windows, or even some version of Windows PE.

>>737147707
>, but you still need to run steam to play it
we're reaching levels of damage control that shouldnt even be possible. Steam games can be launched offline. There is no downside to using steam to launch your games, even non steam games, because you can use it as a controller wrapper.

>>737147650
freedom takes time, only normies use bluetooth anyways

>>737147765
You can use Steam on Linux as a Proton proxy to run pirated or non linux stuff, heck people figured out how to play stuff like Nikke on Linux using steam apparently

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>>737147765
Ok? But I do not like steam.

>>737147650
troonix user will tell you this is a good thing lol

>>737147880
Steam is unnecessary for this. Lutris, UMU launcher and many other tools can be used as proton front ends too.

>>737147953
but i use arch, anon. i don't have to do this.

>>737147880
You don't even have to use Steam itself anymore.
https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/umu-launcher https://github.com/Faugus/faugus-launcher

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>>737147406
?

>>737147993
there's nothing to really replace steam input though, is there? that's a killer feature even for windows users

My Wii U pro controller I dug up some months ago Irefuses to get paired, other than that I dont have mayore gripes, but If someone knows hwo to do this it would be appreciated I LOVE the Wii U pro controller up to this day and its eternal battery

>>737148160
Now show yourself installing and running Fightcade on a system that isn't Ubuntu.

That was a headache I don't wish on my worst enemy

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>>737148376
Uhhhhh

>>737147960
>python slop launchers
I'm tired boss

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>>737148376
?

>>737148492
Make a better one if you want to. Pretty sure you could use a literal bash script to launch stuff using proton.

>>737148606
Why are these things not baked in proton itself

>>737148180
I did a quick search and it seems there are some programs like https://github.com/AntiMicroX/antimicrox but nothing that's on the same level.
https://github.com/Alia5/SISR might be interesting but that uses steam input rather than replacing it.

>>737148667
Not to be the "why" guy, but why?
Lutris can use proton
Steam can use proton
All these other launchers can use proton
You if you were smart could use proton
Sounds to me like you just want proton to be more bloated

>>737148478
>>737148556
Yes, retard. Download it, install it. On a system with no automatic package installer, and since it's not on your central repository, installing it requires typing tons of lines

Record yourself installing it, and then I DARE you have the gull to tell me it was harder than "next, next, install"

>>737148835
>wasn't harder than

>>737148478
>>737148556
>flatpak
You didn't install it

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>>737148835
Anon....the newest install is a fucking .desktop file....
Its click play

>>737148835
>>737148930
yeah, it's just an electron app. you MIGHT need to make Fightcade2.sh executable and that's it.

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>>737148835
>I DARE YOU! I DOUBLE DARE YOU!
? want a tutorial on how to install the json file

>>737148667
What are "those things"? Proton is back end software intended to run Windows software on Linux using Steam. Steam uses it in a very specific way too, it has what are called "pressure vessels" which are basically a complete Linux system also known as SteamRT. Steam launches SteamRT and then inside that it runs whatever Windows software in Proton.
The stuff that Steam does like starting up a pressure vessel, creating directories for the game, downloading latest SteamRT, etc has to be mimicked by something in order to use Proton. Proton is not software meant for doing any of that.

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>>737149005
Damn, you got me. It has been some time since I tried to install it on puppy linux, back then it was a nightmarish experience

Good that they made it easier to use

>>737149071
Toss then in the emulator folder. After that the emulator will auto download a game whenever you add it to the list

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It's funny how corpos can become self-sabotaging due to their own autism. I don't even recommend Ubuntu anymore and just tell people to use Mint or Bazzite.
>>737131940
Pop OS became a meme after they decided to focus so hard on making their own UI. Unironically, they should have just forked KDE and worked from there.

>>737149254
In fairness I let some sperg do all the heavylifting on the AUR for Fightcade 1
Fightcade2 is very easy to get going though
May the Lord be with you

Been running Bazzite for like a month now. Everything been fine, biggest issue is losing audio playing cs2.
Not sure what the huge difference is between gnome and KDE but the twittermob seems to think gnome is the worst thing ever.

>>737149513
Gnome is less functional and somehow also more bloated and slower than KDE.
We can go rounds about xfce or cinnamon vs KDE, but GNOME is archaic shit